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00:22.55megannehi
00:28.35SargunWhere can I find a good list of morally paridoxical question
00:29.13tristanbobcan someone give me the exact name and path of hte xorg.conf file?
00:29.29tristanbobI was trying to install nvidia driver... ran into problems
00:29.46tristanbobsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
00:29.53tristanbobsudo nvidia-glx-config enable
00:29.58tristanboband now it is broken...
00:30.13Sargunlocate xorg.conf
00:30.20Sargunthere are a couple different places
00:31.10nick125_lappy/etc/X11/xorg.conf IIRC
00:31.27tristanbobI am on ubuntu 6.06
00:31.38Sargunnick125_lappy, nick125_lappy Run away!
00:31.45tristanbob(actually, I am trying to do this remotely)
00:31.45nick125_lappyits been a while since I've worked on ubuntu
00:33.02tristanbobI installed Ubuntu on my brother's  PC, and he really likes it
00:33.34tristanbobbut I wanted to install nvidia driver so he could play americas army and enemy territory
00:33.49tristanbobnow he just has a text-based system ..... :(
00:37.15SargunWhich of the following would you most prefer?
00:37.15SargunA: a puppy,
00:37.15SargunB: a pretty flower from your sweety, or
00:37.15SargunC: a large properly formatted data file?
00:53.40findlayI vote for C
00:55.10findlayexcellent!  Die Zauberflöte
00:55.28findlayone of *the* greatest operas ever written
00:56.13findlaytristanbob: you should check out easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
00:57.12Sarguntristanbob, whats wrong?
00:57.46tristanbobSargun: I broke X on my brothers computer (remote)
00:58.04tristanbobI followed ubuntu's wiki....
00:58.58Sargungentoo
00:59.53tristanbobUbuntu 6.06
01:00.23findlaytristanbob: Sargun only acknowledges the existence of one distro (:
01:00.29Sargunlol
01:00.32Sargunslack
01:00.34Sargun:-P
01:00.38Sargunfedora maybe.
01:00.42Sargunno
01:00.46SargunCentOS -- not fedora
01:00.50SargunLinspire!
01:00.51Sargun:-P
01:01.29Sargunseriously though, SUSE is really polished
01:01.48findlayI think I'm going to roll my own distro that includes a vanilla linux, glibc/gcc, coreutils, etc. and vim
01:01.54findlayand bash
01:02.03findlayof course
01:02.09findlaywhat more could you want?
01:03.56Teneperl
01:04.17findlaynaturally that was included in 'etc.'
01:05.04TeneWell what else is included in etc.?
01:05.25findlayum, not much else?
01:05.27findlay(:
01:05.39Tenenetcat?
01:05.45findlayyeah
01:05.49Teneany web server?
01:05.58findlaylighthttpd?
01:06.02Tenedatabase?
01:06.03findlayor xinetd?
01:06.10findlaysqlite
01:06.33Tenesqlite isn't good for concurrency, I believe...
01:06.50Tenedoesn't scale so well
01:07.08Teneirssi?
01:07.11findlayberkleydb
01:07.14Tenessh?
01:07.15findlayyeah
01:07.31Tenessh is good to have.
01:07.49findlaynmap
01:08.00Tenempd
01:08.42findlaybasically what I meant by etc. was all of the core GNU packages
01:09.05Teneperl is a core GNU package?
01:09.10tristanbobok - it looks like I got it working again
01:09.14findlaydon't think so
01:09.25tristanbobsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
01:09.45findlaydidn't you know it's called GNU/Perl or GNU slash Perl
01:09.47Tenelinks?  wget?  curl?
01:10.02findlaydo you need both wget and curl?
01:10.14Teneor would it be better to just build your own using appropriat eperl packages?
01:10.15findlayand an ftp client I assume
01:10.36findlaythere's always that temptation with perl
01:10.51Tenecurl can be used as an ftp client.
01:11.20goozbachanyone familiar with futexes?
01:11.25goozbachif so, what does this mean?
01:11.28goozbachfutex(0xb78263a8, FUTEX_WAIT, 2, NULL
01:11.41findlayis that what they call posix threads in the future?
01:12.20findlayis it waiting for a really long time or something?
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01:16.26goozbachyeah
01:16.41goozbachhow do I de-reference what it's waiting for?
01:17.26findlaywhat's the process?
01:18.03findlaycould be IO or a timeout of some kind
01:21.33goozbachit's yum actually
01:21.49goozbachthere were some filesystem errors
01:21.53goozbachI gave up and rebooted
01:21.59goozbachit didn't come back up
01:22.04goozbachso I improvized
01:54.10elgok, I just finished peeling some chiles. don't let me touch my eyes
01:54.13elg-lart redbeard1
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02:22.48SargunWhat is the difference between "If 5 lines are drawn in a plane, ahwat is the maximum number of points of intersection of the lines" and "If 5 lines are drawn in a plane, ahwat is the maximum number of points of intersection"
02:29.56goozbach~force elg to rub his eyes
02:38.45goozbachok, so I have to order a new LCD+Cable for my laptop
02:38.49goozbachI searched for the part number and all these companies which seem to be less than reputable come up
02:38.56goozbachanyone had any experience with ordering laptop screens/parts?
02:40.47Sargunwhat manu.
02:40.56goozbachIBM
02:42.52Sargunhave you tried IBM direct?
02:42.59Sargun(their parts line)
02:43.11goozbachno
02:43.22Sarguntry that
02:43.33Sargunsometimes they have O.K. prices.
02:44.29goozbachfound one that's a yahoo store.
02:44.32goozbachthat makes me fell better
02:44.39goozbachbut, should I pay $200 more for piece of mind?
02:45.46Sargunuhh
02:45.54Sargunyou need the actual LCD?
02:45.59Sargunor just the cable?
02:47.01goozbachyes
02:47.06goozbach:)
02:47.22goozbachthe cable died, causeing the LCD to burn in
02:47.34Sargunoh, that makes you wanna cry
02:47.40Sargunhow far out of warranty are you?
02:55.37tensai~rlart
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03:09.52goozbacha ways
03:10.20goozbachit's a flat fee from IBM
03:10.25goozbachW00T
03:10.51goozbachAND IT'S LESS THAN THE PARTS ALONE
03:11.21goozbachw00t again
03:12.12Teneyay!
03:12.33TeneI wonder if something like that is available for my laptop from HP
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03:58.07levi_homegoozbach: A futex is a thread synchronization primitive in the kernel.  The hex number is the address of the memory it's watching.  You might be able to find that address in the symbol table of the binary that you were watching.
03:58.46Sargunlol
03:59.06SargunTene, no, its HP, thats sad, its horrible, and uh, its bad.
03:59.21levi_homegoozbach: Or it could be a non-static variable, in which case there's no real way to know aside from searching for futex system calls in the source code.
04:13.49elgsweet. my ups arrived today
04:14.00Sargunby APC?
04:14.01levi_homeNice.
04:14.16elgtripp-lite
04:14.23elgbbiab
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04:27.00tensai~lart elg
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05:01.09elgwoohoo. I passed the SoC gauntlet. I get my t-shirt! (and money)
05:01.18Sargunlol
05:02.14Lone_WandererWhat's the SoC gauntlet?
05:02.46Sargunsomething which if you pass,  you get a t-shirt
05:02.55Lone_Wanderercool
05:03.06elgsummer of code final evaluation
05:03.11Lone_WandererDoes it have the words "and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" on it somewhere?
05:03.15Lone_Wanderer'cause shirts that say that are kinda cheesy
05:03.26elgit wasn't really a gauntlet, but as I got less done than my initial proposal I wasn't sure if I'd pass
05:03.39Sargunelg, Sweet!
05:03.51Sargunelg, what what your project?
05:05.05elghttp://hans.fugal.net/typo/articles/2006/05/24/summer-of-code-2006 , http://ardour.org/node/237 and http://code.google.com/soc/ardour/appinfo.html?csaid=103972780176C851
05:05.21Lone_Wandererelg = Hans Fugal?
05:05.24elgya
05:05.28Lone_Wandereroh, hi Hans.
05:05.29Sargunwhy did you change?
05:05.34Sargunhans sounds cool.
05:05.44elgso my proposal was basically two parts, and I only got one done
05:05.49elg(undo serialization)
05:05.56elgelg is my laptop name
05:06.12elgwhen I get on from a desktop I'm hans
05:06.31Lone_Wandererahh, cool
05:06.58elgYou're New Now Know How
05:07.00elgthat's a funny name
05:08.37Lone_WandererI am?
05:09.20SargunHANS-MANS!
05:10.07findlaywhat am I?  I want the SoC champion to bestow an sagigous aphorism
05:10.37Lone_WandererOhhh, my client.  *changes it*
05:11.27Lone_WandererThere.
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05:17.43Lone_WandererDoes anyone know if there's an IRC channel about MMIX?
05:17.57Sargun~expand MMIX
05:18.02Sargun~acronym MMIX
05:18.09Sargun~lart mmix
05:18.15SargunMMIX?
05:18.28Lone_Wanderer~wiki mmix
05:18.48Lone_WandererMMIX is a 64-bit RISC abstract machine designed by Donald Knuth, with significant contributions by John L. Hennessy (who designed the MIPS chip) and Dick Sites (who was the architect of the DEC Alpha chip). Knuth will be using MMIX in all future editions of his The Art of Computer Programming (TAoCP) to illustrate machine-level aspects of programming, especially in relation to the analysis...
05:18.49Lone_Wanderer...of algorithms. It is pronounced "emmix."
05:18.54Lone_Wandererd'oh
05:19.04Lone_Wandererit was a bit slower than I expected
05:20.14Lone_WandererIf you volunteer to convert old MIX programs into MMIX, you get a t-shirt.
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05:37.42SargunBob was as perplexed as a hacker who means to access T:flw.quid55328.com\aaakk/ch@ung but gets T:\flw.quidaaakk/ch@ung by mistake.
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05:52.17Lone_WandererSargun: I laughed out loud, in the literal sense.
05:53.28SargunThe moderation system for Slashdot is currently down.
05:53.31SargunNoooo!
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06:04.22Lone_WandererSlashdot is so Web 1.0.
06:04.31Lone_WandererUse Reddit.
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06:23.13AeroIlliniis atoponce around?
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12:31.57atoponcenot at 12 in the morining i'm not
12:33.01atoponcei'm sleeping
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12:44.27elg-lart tensai
13:35.07leviGood morning.
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16:06.26goozbachmorning
16:08.17Jayce^morn
16:10.02levi_homeWassup?
16:11.09beandogI just had to burst into song.
16:14.04redbeard1beandog: you sicko
16:14.18beandog:)
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16:23.40elgThe HILLLLLLS are a-live
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16:27.19redbeard1~lart elg
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16:34.42\mevery quiet today
16:35.46\meno one is at work today either - not sure if they're all coming in late or what
16:35.56\meI know it's not a company holiday
16:37.49redbeard1every day is a holiday at my company
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16:38.09\methis group is surprisingly laid back for being at a large company
16:38.13redbeard1just like in the smashmouth song
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16:39.02\meevery day is a holiday in my head
16:39.16\meparties going on all the time
16:39.32\meanyone remember Nathan Best from IDI?
16:40.10redbeard1zero tee
16:40.33\mezero tee?
16:40.45redbeard1eye dee eye zero tee
16:40.55redbeard1is that not what you're getting at?
16:41.07\meheh
16:41.18\meNathan wasn't an IDI0T
16:41.43redbeard1i don't think i know him
16:41.59\meI just found him on linkedIn - we were good friends at IDI
16:42.40redbeard1i don't like that site
16:43.06\meI think it's great for networking and staying in touch with former co-workers
16:43.22redbeard1yeah, that's part of why i don't like it
16:43.34redbeard1freakin' former coworkers
16:43.41\mewhat - you have a problem with your former coworkers ;-)
16:43.59\mewell, I guess there's this one for me
16:44.10redbeard1did you just wink at me? what the heck, man?
16:44.11\mehis name was Joe or something - can't remember
16:44.23\meI wink at people all the time
16:44.55elg~blind \me
16:45.10\me;-) ;-) ;-)
16:45.34redbeard1~dog \me
16:45.36ibotACTION stares at \me until \me whimpers and pees all over himself.
16:46.47\mekids in the hall was great
16:47.08redbeard1was they?
16:47.15\meit was a show
16:47.22\meI wasn't referring to the actual kids
16:47.44beandogbah.
16:47.46beandogdeath to comcast.
16:48.02\meI love cocast at the moment - sometimes I hate them though
16:48.07\mecomcast
16:52.19beandogmy connection has been spotty the past few weeks
16:52.23beandogI just havent called them out yet.
16:52.33beandogIts going to be like the 4th time they've had to fix it though.
16:53.00mrpullPCLOADLETTER.... ARGH!
16:53.03herloJayce^: did you get my pm?
16:55.23elgamcnabb: you still a CS sysadmin?
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17:20.05findlay#utah: the channel of unanswered questions
17:20.15findlayI want to ask one
17:20.25findlayChanServ: how's it going?
17:21.28\memmm...hot chocolate
17:25.00supaplexchocolate flavored to?
17:25.02supaplex;)
17:26.31findlayibot: why?
17:26.33ibotBecause!
17:26.43findlayibot: you weren't supposed to answer!
17:32.47\meibot's been active this morning
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17:45.07goozbach~dip me in chocolate and call me a bon bon!
17:46.48Jayce^~fear goozbach
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17:57.54levi_homeI get the impression from the perl manpages that using IO::Select would probably be better than trying to do multithreading?
18:39.04amcnabbelg, I hang out down there, but I'm not getting paid. :)
18:39.28elgdo we have any sysadmins here? wouldn't it be wrong if we don't?
18:39.46elgjacob was trying to get a CGI to work and we were trying to figure out what was wrong, but we moved it to my server
18:40.58amcnabbWhere was the problem?
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18:48.22levihttp://xkcd.com/c149.html
18:51.21elgamcnabb: our best guess is ruby isn't installed on the webserver
18:51.23elghe was getting 500
18:52.10elglevi: sudo make me a ruben sandwich
18:52.13Tenethat should be easy to check with a cgi.
18:52.57levielg: I'm filtering the Remote Sandwich Protocol at my firewall. :P
18:53.28goozbachRSP
18:55.08Tene~elg levi
18:55.34Tene~elg levi
18:55.36ibotACTION sandwichmaps levi.
18:57.32graphyxrock scissors papers?
18:59.43goozbachibot: rsp is the remote sandwich protocol
18:59.44ibotokay, goozbach
19:00.14amcnabbelg, try it now
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19:00.41elgI think he's gone to lunch. I'll tell him to try it though
19:00.56amcnabbok
19:02.04goozbach~make me a sandwich
19:02.06ibotmake: *** No rule to make target `me a sandwich'.  Stop.
19:02.55goozbach~sudo make me a sandwich
19:02.56ibotokay
19:03.03goozbach:)
19:03.28[phoenyx]lol
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20:32.55redbeard1i just went to a dollar store called "Honks"
20:33.03redbeard1best. name. ever.
20:43.58leviHeh.  It's a big dollar store chain. :)
20:50.37findlayredbeard1: did you honk as you drove away?
20:51.20findlayit gives you good luck
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21:10.30redbeard1findlay: wasn't driving, but i'll keep it in mind for next time
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21:54.22scottif you already have mcaffee running on the clients, is there any advantage of a server side email virus program?
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22:08.20findlayMozart is such a genius
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22:45.20tensai~mozart findlay
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23:29.13leviSo, is there an easy way to tell whether a given element is in a perl array?
23:31.51findlaylevi: TMTOWTDI!1
23:33.29findlayforeach $element (@array) {print "yes\n" if $element eq 'my element'}
23:34.43leviI want a boolean expression.
23:36.17findlaygrep {'my element'} @array;
23:36.50Sargunnobody?
23:37.02findlaygrep('my element',@array);
23:37.05TeneSargun: what?
23:37.19Sargunto this: hosted phone conference: 712-432-5145, hit 2, then 5678.
23:37.21findlayhe's asking an unanswerable question
23:38.25Sargunuh
23:39.02findlaySargun: you missed my latest philosophising
23:39.25Sargun?
23:39.58findlay11:20 < findlay> #utah: the channel of unanswered questions
23:40.18Sargunheh
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23:42.31elganyone going to von's reception tonight?
23:42.45Sargunvon?
23:42.54findlaywhere?
23:43.30SargunFree food?
23:43.35Sargunfor a teenager :-)
23:43.57Tenefree food where?
23:46.15elghttp://von.fugal.net/blog/show/Livin_The_Married_Life/36
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