| 00:03.31 | lukfugl | hans: what are you doing tonight? :) |
| 00:08.50 | tensai | looks like lukfugl is going to be spending the evening looking for his terminal |
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| 00:13.16 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
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| 00:20.19 | findlay | ~lart manti telephone a bazillion times |
| 00:22.35 | jsmith | findlay: Aren't they the same outfit as Emery Telecom? |
| 00:25.47 | findlay | jsmith: don't know |
| 00:29.13 | jsmith | findlay: If I remember right, they're the same company with two (or maybe even three) different names. Why are you larting them? |
| 00:29.57 | findlay | because they have a really awful bandwidth policy |
| 00:30.22 | jsmith | Figures. |
| 00:31.57 | findlay | basically, they try to enforce a bahavior on their clients by throttling their bandwidth way down on any sustained connection, only condoning the typical mindless web surfing/web mail paradigm |
| 00:32.26 | findlay | of course no one on their nework would ever use gentoo, or fedora, or some other update happy OS |
| 00:32.29 | findlay | (: |
| 00:34.02 | findlay | but if I fire up my box after a hard day at school expecting to do some bzfragging, I'm going to be provoked to dislike if I get lag kicked (: |
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| 00:53.04 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I was able to briefly achieve a sleep-like state. I think I lost consciousness for a little while. |
| 00:53.44 | Lone_Wanderer | but it seems that there is too much caffeine in my system still to allow any kind of prolonged rest :( |
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| 01:56.37 | Maquis | ~lart sjansen |
| 02:05.34 | dawithers | ~lart himself |
| 02:05.48 | dawithers | fancy that |
| 02:06.51 | sjansen | ~lart herself |
| 02:16.03 | sjansen | hmmm, the grammar gets a bit messy on that one |
| 02:17.57 | dawithers | yeah |
| 02:18.06 | Tene | that's kinda the point. |
| 02:18.14 | dawithers | is it? |
| 02:18.30 | dawithers | ~lart Tene |
| 02:18.36 | sjansen | no, but it made Tene sound more experience for a microsecond |
| 02:18.42 | sjansen | and that's kinda the point, isn't it? |
| 02:18.46 | dawithers | yeah |
| 02:18.49 | Tene | Yeah. |
| 02:18.51 | dawithers | haha |
| 02:19.17 | Tene | sjansen always catches me when I make things up to make myself look good. |
| 02:19.33 | Lone_Wanderer | ignites the fire? |
| 02:19.34 | dawithers | someone's gotta do it |
| 02:20.41 | dawithers | haha |
| 02:21.09 | Maquis | dawithers: why did you get in the way? |
| 02:21.33 | Maquis | silly freshman (or close thereto?)... doesn't understand life... |
| 02:28.22 | mheath | "cleaning check"? |
| 02:28.25 | mheath | where are you? |
| 02:28.38 | Maquis | mheath: when you live in apartments for school, you have cleaning checks |
| 02:28.43 | Maquis | in apartments and dorms |
| 02:28.49 | Maquis | it's life |
| 02:28.53 | sjansen | well, at BYU anyway |
| 02:29.01 | mheath | yeah,most places don't do that. |
| 02:29.05 | sjansen | many of the more liberal universities don't have checks |
| 02:29.07 | Maquis | really? |
| 02:29.20 | sjansen | checks are the exception, not the rule |
| 02:29.25 | mheath | Yep. |
| 02:29.38 | Maquis | how do the apartment complexes get away with that? i thought it was the apartment complex that set that up so that they don't have to deal with problems... |
| 02:29.46 | Tene | you're gradiated? |
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| 02:30.04 | mheath | Tene, he gradiated with an english major :D haha. |
| 02:30.13 | Tene | o.O |
| 02:31.16 | sjansen | mheath: you're just jealous because I'm gradyumiatered |
| 02:31.27 | mheath | What major? |
| 02:31.44 | mheath | And what degree?\ |
| 02:31.46 | sjansen | major pain |
| 02:32.01 | sjansen | blackbelt in being a major pain |
| 02:32.11 | mheath | hahah. |
| 02:32.25 | mheath | That reminds me, actually...I've got iaido on Saturday |
| 02:32.40 | mheath | anyone here happen to be going from ogden to SLC around noon on Saturday? I could use a ride... |
| 02:32.41 | sjansen | bachelors in comp. sci. |
| 02:33.26 | mheath | sjansen: cool, thats likely to be my first degree. |
| 02:35.49 | Tene | I'm going from SLC to Provo and back on Thursday. |
| 02:35.53 | Tene | Does that count? |
| 02:36.28 | sjansen | I'm going from Orem to past SLC but not as far as Ogden on Saturday. |
| 02:49.57 | sjansen | entertain me |
| 02:50.20 | tensai | Maquis: they get away with it because you have no choice it where you live. has to be approved. |
| 02:51.04 | sjansen | *sniff* *sniff* |
| 02:51.46 | tensai | sjansen: I've been lighting so many things on fire it's hard to keep track |
| 02:53.12 | tensai | why do resistors specify a wattage? |
| 02:54.26 | sjansen | because specifying teslas would make not sense |
| 02:54.43 | spr | because the can only handle so much power. |
| 02:54.59 | tensai | ~lart sjansen |
| 02:55.02 | tensai | ~thank spr |
| 02:55.02 | ibot | tensai: sure thing |
| 02:55.32 | tensai | ibot: not you |
| 02:55.33 | ibot | not me! |
| 02:55.33 | tensai | spr: thanks. so too much juice and the smoke gets out? |
| 02:55.55 | tensai | ibot: you been drinking again? |
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| 02:59.25 | levi-treo | Gah. |
| 02:59.34 | sjansen | Gee! |
| 02:59.48 | Tene | Guh? |
| 02:59.54 | tensai | grue |
| 03:00.09 | Tene | Eep! |
| 03:00.15 | levi-treo | I'm at a wedding reception for a friend of my wife. |
| 03:00.43 | tensai | at least you have IRC |
| 03:01.12 | sjansen | tensai: Does your ISP provide service in North Salt Lake? |
| 03:01.21 | levi-treo | She's in the wedding party, so I've been doing wedding stuff all day. |
| 03:01.40 | tensai | sjansen: nationwide dialup but otherwise no |
| 03:01.44 | Peregrine | At least you can get your fix now, levi |
| 03:01.47 | levi-treo | I'm pretty tired of it by now. |
| 03:02.16 | Peregrine | sjansen: I recommend Xmission :). |
| 03:02.36 | sjansen | Fozz! You're our next contestant. |
| 03:02.37 | levi-treo | And my wife won't let me pig out at the chocolate fountain until closer to the end. |
| 03:02.39 | Peregrine | Carp! |
| 03:02.40 | tensai | sjansen: why not relocate to Preston? |
| 03:05.16 | sjansen | tensai: See what you did. You weren't entertaining enough so he left. |
| 03:05.47 | tensai | but my hair is already gone? what left can I ignite? |
| 03:13.50 | Peregrine | "Well, Hello Dolly! You're looking swell, Dolly!" |
| 03:14.24 | Peregrine | "Hello, Louis; this is Francis, Louis. It's so nice to see you back where you belong..." |
| 03:14.36 | Peregrine | "You're still swinging, you're still going stong..." |
| 03:15.24 | Peregrine | Promise you won't go away, promise you won't go away, promise you won't go away, again....oh, yeah!!!" |
| 03:17.26 | sjansen | with tensai still in them |
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| 03:19.06 | Peregrine | "Those happy hours, that we once knew, though long ago, they make me so blue. |
| 03:19.28 | Peregrine | ..they say that time, heals a broken heart, but time has stood still, since we've been apart." |
| 03:19.38 | Peregrine | You have to love Frank. |
| 03:19.40 | Peregrine | :) |
| 03:20.02 | tensai | I finally got my private enterprise number today |
| 03:20.16 | Peregrine | huh? |
| 03:20.26 | sjansen | OID |
| 03:20.37 | sjansen | think SNMP and LDAP |
| 03:20.50 | Peregrine | ah. |
| 03:20.55 | tensai | now I can stop borrowing other people's |
| 03:21.11 | Peregrine | Maybe I'll get me one of those sometime. |
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| 03:39.02 | Peregrine | Sometimes, I hate JavaScript. |
| 03:41.14 | fozz | Sometimes? |
| 03:42.02 | sjansen | fozz! |
| 03:42.06 | fozz | yeah. |
| 03:42.09 | fozz | It's me. |
| 03:42.18 | fozz | The I-Hate-JavaSCript-Always himself. |
| 03:42.24 | Peregrine | fozz! |
| 03:42.50 | Peregrine | Yeah, well, you're right. I was only trying to not appear quite so negative. |
| 03:43.02 | sjansen | I just hate the way most people use it. But it's actually a pretty nice language. |
| 03:44.08 | SpecialK | what do they do wrong? |
| 03:44.46 | sjansen | don't take advantage of the full power, and don't consider accessiblity implications of what they use |
| 03:44.54 | sjansen | not to mention just being messy |
| 03:45.27 | sjansen | like html, most people don't actually learn it, they just jump in |
| 03:48.58 | dawithers | html? whats that? is that that stuff that you see when you do "view source" on someones website? i have a website. i used word. its way cool |
| 03:49.28 | SpecialK | ~wince |
| 03:49.29 | ibot | Ouch! that hurt - what did you go and do that for |
| 03:49.37 | sjansen | 128.187 ip, betcha I could track you down and hurt you |
| 03:49.41 | sjansen | bad |
| 03:49.48 | dawithers | hahaha |
| 03:49.49 | sjansen | break your word using fingers |
| 03:49.50 | dawithers | im in 155 wells hr |
| 03:49.58 | sjansen | No way! |
| 03:50.01 | dawithers | yeah |
| 03:50.02 | dawithers | way |
| 03:50.09 | sjansen | I lived there twice. |
| 03:50.12 | dawithers | haha |
| 03:50.12 | sjansen | Small world. |
| 03:50.16 | dawithers | no kidding |
| 03:50.21 | dawithers | actually this campus is pretty big |
| 03:50.25 | dawithers | its like vatican city |
| 03:50.29 | sjansen | No, wait. Once. |
| 03:50.33 | Maquis | silly freshman |
| 03:50.33 | sjansen | 22 Broadbent was twice. |
| 03:50.50 | dawithers | haha |
| 03:50.53 | sjansen | Not so silly, at least he started out at HH. |
| 03:50.55 | dawithers | i dont use word by the way |
| 03:51.03 | dawithers | haha |
| 03:51.18 | dawithers | actually the majority of my site is writtin in php using vim |
| 03:51.23 | dawithers | :-P |
| 03:51.29 | sjansen | Although that means he's missing out on people running down the halls screaming at 2AM, or leaving pringles cans full of urine outside his door. |
| 03:51.36 | dawithers | yeah |
| 03:51.38 | dawithers | or dead fish |
| 03:51.39 | dawithers | in ur vent |
| 03:51.44 | dawithers | my gf lives in helaman |
| 03:51.51 | dawithers | haha |
| 03:52.29 | dawithers | ~lart sjansen |
| 03:52.47 | sjansen | Bah, no style. I'd have used at least a travolta. |
| 03:53.04 | sjansen | ~bzfrag dawithers |
| 03:53.06 | ibot | ACTION blindsides dawithers with an invisible bullet |
| 03:53.23 | dawithers | i just got done with a cleaning check |
| 03:53.38 | dawithers | you know like where the ra is like "i'm going to be really strict this time" only he says that every time |
| 03:54.08 | dawithers | and all the while he tells us how he got engaged and then his fiance called it off and now they are "just friends" |
| 03:54.37 | Maquis | ~lart dawithers |
| 03:54.41 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 03:54.46 | Maquis | what happened to all the good larts |
| 03:54.47 | Maquis | ? |
| 03:54.51 | Maquis | ~lart dawithers |
| 03:55.14 | sjansen | ibot: funkybomb $who is <action> blows away $who in a psychedelic flash |
| 03:55.16 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 03:55.42 | Maquis | ~frag sjansen |
| 03:55.44 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at sjansen |
| 03:55.48 | tensai | ~funkybomb sjansen |
| 03:55.50 | ibot | ACTION blows away sjansen in a psychedelic flash |
| 03:55.57 | Maquis | ~timeout dawithers |
| 03:56.00 | ibot | ACTION grabs dawithers by the ear, drags him to the timeout chair, and forces him to sit there for 20 minutes |
| 03:56.21 | sjansen | ibot: travolta $who is <action> replaces $who with a several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 03:56.22 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 03:56.36 | sjansen | ~travolta tensai, Maquis, and dawithers |
| 03:56.38 | ibot | ACTION replaces tensai, Maquis, and dawithers with a several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 03:56.51 | Maquis | ~flog sjansen |
| 03:56.53 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties sjansen and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 03:57.20 | tensai | ibot: no, travolta $who is <action> replaces $who with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 03:57.21 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 03:58.11 | sjansen | heh |
| 03:59.03 | sjansen | ibot strangelove $who is <action> destroys half the channel just to get rid of $who |
| 03:59.05 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 03:59.19 | sjansen | ~scorched3d |
| 04:00.24 | sjansen | ibot: scorched3d is the super-uber-awesome successor to scorched earth |
| 04:00.25 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 04:00.30 | sjansen | ~scorched |
| 04:00.54 | sjansen | ibot: scorched is what everyone cool calls scorched earth |
| 04:00.55 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 04:00.57 | mrpull_ | i got a 1GB thumb drive... |
| 04:01.14 | mrpull_ | anyone run a live cd like distro on a thumb drive? |
| 04:01.55 | sjansen | ibot: no scorched is how all coolsters refer to scorched earth |
| 04:01.56 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 04:04.54 | Tene | mrpull_: look at DSL |
| 04:05.22 | mrpull_ | i have. i'm also looking at feather linux. |
| 04:06.05 | mrpull_ | and puppy. |
| 04:07.22 | mrpull_ | i tried the instructions at http://fuzzymunchkin.dyndns.org/tdot/usbkeyfob/index.php3 for DSL |
| 04:07.33 | mrpull_ | (i liked the idea of having some windows utils too) |
| 04:08.28 | Maquis | ~roulette |
| 04:08.29 | ibot | |roulette |
| 04:08.30 | Peregrine | One of our guys put a Fedora rescue environment on a USB keychain just to try it out. |
| 04:08.35 | Maquis | oops |
| 04:08.40 | Peregrine | ~lart Maquis' calendar. |
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| 04:09.03 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 04:09.03 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 04:09.06 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 04:09.07 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 04:09.08 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 04:09.09 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 04:09.10 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 04:09.11 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 04:09.14 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 04:09.14 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 5 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 04:09.24 | Maquis | man... that took a while |
| 04:09.28 | SpecialK | |roulette |
| 04:09.28 | brigham | SpecialK: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 04:09.35 | Maquis | |lart dawithers |
| 04:09.38 | Maquis | |lart dawithers |
| 04:09.42 | Maquis | |lart sjansen |
| 04:10.08 | SpecialK | |lart Maquis |
| 04:10.20 | Maquis | |lart SpecialK |
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| 04:16.40 | sjansen | ~stone Maquis |
| 04:16.42 | ibot | ACTION hurls a boulder completely crushing Maquis |
| 04:16.54 | Maquis | does that mean i don't have to finish the semester? |
| 04:17.01 | SpecialK | ~fish sjansen |
| 04:17.04 | ibot | ACTION slaps sjansen around with a large trout |
| 04:17.18 | sjansen | Maquis: yes |
| 04:17.20 | sjansen | quit now |
| 04:17.32 | sjansen | demand the the university refund your tuition |
| 04:17.46 | sjansen | camp outside the presidents office until they cut you a check |
| 04:18.33 | Maquis | can i still go to brainshare on friday? |
| 04:18.41 | Maquis | and work this summer? |
| 04:19.00 | sjansen | if you want to |
| 04:19.19 | goozbach | househunting -- |
| 04:19.21 | sjansen | any other bad ideas I can validate for you? |
| 04:19.29 | goozbach | ~lart stupid real-estate agents |
| 04:19.35 | goozbach | oh yeah |
| 04:19.59 | Maquis | sjansen: fun |
| 04:20.32 | sjansen | s/graduated/graderated/ |
| 04:20.59 | SpecialK | gradgumicated |
| 04:21.10 | Maquis | sjansen: you actually spelled it correctly??? but... that's wrong! |
| 04:21.57 | Peregrine | goozbach! :) |
| 04:22.18 | SpecialK | Peregrine! |
| 04:24.15 | Peregrine | um...that didn't quite come out right. ?? |
| 04:25.28 | goozbach | and I ride away on a droid starfighter just like a surfboard |
| 04:25.30 | Peregrine | SpecialK! Wait, who are you again? Sorry. I'm working on very little sleep last night and I am still at the office after spending all my time I was not here on the roof of my house in the rain. |
| 04:26.22 | Peregrine | So, goozbach, what happened with the "stupid real-estate agents"? |
| 04:26.24 | sjansen | SpecialK is hooloovoo blue serif K in a very special font |
| 04:26.59 | Peregrine | Ah. That clears up everything except for everything. |
| 04:27.07 | Peregrine | Thanks, sjansen. |
| 04:27.17 | Peregrine | Hey! My music ended. |
| 04:27.21 | SpecialK | |SpecialK |
| 04:27.35 | SpecialK | ~SpecialK |
| 04:27.36 | ibot | [specialk] a slow typist, or good for you. Eat one bowl a day and you'll be healthier. Or its Scott K's nick. a puppy shaped balloon animal |
| 04:28.09 | Peregrine | Ah. That is more helpful; and interesting, too. |
| 04:31.30 | Maquis | ~mock Peregrine |
| 04:31.32 | ibot | ACTION pulls Peregrine's pants down and shows the world Peregrine's pink spotted underwear |
| 04:33.37 | Peregrine | Hey, those aren't spots; they're hearts. |
| 04:34.00 | Peregrine | Just for that... |
| 04:34.13 | goozbach | Peregrine: she showed me the wrong property |
| 04:34.23 | goozbach | the address was wrong first off |
| 04:34.40 | goozbach | she said " oh they get those wrong all the time" |
| 04:34.57 | SpecialK | good thing too. |
| 04:34.59 | goozbach | then I looked harder at the picture on the little brochure she had |
| 04:35.11 | Peregrine | That bites. Oh, yeah; like you're supposed to believe she can't tell the difference between one house and another. |
| 04:35.20 | goozbach | the pic has a house with a left side garage |
| 04:35.31 | goozbach | the house she showed had a right side garage |
| 04:35.40 | Peregrine | BTW: I once wrote client software for that national network realtors use. That system is solid. |
| 04:35.52 | Peregrine | How long did it take her to notice? |
| 04:36.12 | goozbach | I still think she thinks that the house she showed is correct |
| 04:36.29 | goozbach | I did some research after the fact and found this all out |
| 04:36.42 | goozbach | and no, the picture wasn't mirriored |
| 04:37.14 | goozbach | the house I was shown is on a corner lot |
| 04:37.28 | goozbach | the one in the pic has a house on either side |
| 04:39.00 | Peregrine | Yeah, sounds like you need a new agent. I'll point out those houses I was telling you I saw up in my area. Tomorrow, if you like. |
| 04:39.26 | tensai | maybe they renovated after they took the picture. moved it across town. you know, the usual. |
| 04:42.32 | goozbach | don't cry over spilt milk |
| 04:42.48 | Maquis | *sniff*... *sniff* |
| 04:44.49 | Peregrine | I'm going home before this weather gets any worse. It'll be bad enough as tired as I am at the moment. Goode thing it's only 3.2 miles :). sjansen just waled out the door; his commute tonight is a rather large multiple of mine. Poor guy. |
| 04:46.42 | goozbach | dude that just sounded... wrong! |
| 04:47.52 | Peregrine | um, sorry. I meant tears or milk. |
| 04:48.03 | Tene | that's how I read it |
| 04:48.25 | Peregrine | hmm...then I guess we know where gooz's mind is, eh? |
| 04:48.37 | Peregrine | OK, I am leaving....now. |
| 04:49.18 | Maquis | ummm... i don't want to know |
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| 05:21.49 | mheath | Hah, I'd hate living in a dorm room |
| 05:22.12 | mheath | having laundry stuff in some central locations |
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| 05:24.51 | mrpull-feathe1 | hey... feather linux is nice |
| 05:25.10 | mrpull-feathe1 | (so far) |
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| 05:26.14 | mheath | I think that once I get my package manager done, I might work on a distro using it |
| 05:26.17 | mrpull-f | me too |
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| 05:28.31 | mheath | Finally got a reply fromt he author of some documentation, giving me permission to modify it. |
| 05:31.33 | levi-laptop | Good evening. |
| 05:32.10 | mheath | Konbon wa. |
| 05:32.53 | levi-laptop | It feels so good to be out of my suit. |
| 05:34.52 | Maquis | the cars in the parking lot turned white again :) |
| 05:36.56 | levi-laptop | Ack, is it snowing there? |
| 05:39.39 | Maquis | levi-laptop: looks like it |
| 05:43.59 | levi-laptop | Ack. |
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| 05:45.11 | levi-laptop | So, I spent all day at this wedding. |
| 05:45.52 | levi-laptop | At the temple, I saw this person that I thought was a rather frumpy-looking young woman, maybe 15 or so. |
| 05:46.31 | levi-laptop | And then I heard the person's voice, and decided that it must belong to a young man instead. |
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| 05:48.33 | SpecialK | ~lart cloner |
| 05:48.49 | levi-laptop | Anyway, this guy was at the luncheon. Everyone there got introduced. My wife and I were dumbfounded when the 40ish woman sitting next to him stood and introduced him as her husband. |
| 05:50.28 | levi-laptop | Later on, we got the full scoop on the guy. Apparently he's actually mid-20s, like 25 or so. He was a good friend of his wife's oldest son, and when she divorced her husband, they somehow hooked up and got married. |
| 05:51.40 | levi-laptop | In other words, this 40-something woman married her oldest son's friend (who happens to look like a frumpy 15 year old girl) after divorcing her husband. |
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| 05:52.01 | levi-laptop | And her son's friend is now his stepfather. |
| 05:52.12 | levi-laptop | This all just blows my mind. |
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| 06:15.45 | tensai | guess how many residential phone lines are serviced by the Qwest switch in Provo |
| 06:20.10 | tensai | nobody cares? ok, it's 13,814. |
| 06:20.41 | tensai | I just learned today how you can browse details about all of qwest's central offices |
| 06:20.46 | tensai | http://www.qwest.com/cgi-bin/iconn/iconn_centraloffice.pl?function=3 |
| 06:21.30 | tensai | you can see that gurulabs is serviced by this CO http://www.qwest.com/cgi-bin/iconn/iconn_centraloffice.pl?function=clli_detail&clli=BNTFUTMADS0 |
| 06:30.34 | goozbach | a social engineer's dream |
| 06:34.16 | tensai | there's loads of good stuff under the wholesale section |
| 06:34.47 | goozbach | now the question that's been plaguing me for the last minute and a half... |
| 06:35.10 | tensai | http://www.qwest.com/wholesale/dslAugmentation/dslAugmentationScheduledslaugment03232005233348.csv |
| 06:35.23 | tensai | areas where dsl is going in soon |
| 06:35.27 | goozbach | frosted mini wheats, golden grahmns, or honey-nut cherrios? |
| 06:35.29 | tensai | goozbach: was that it? |
| 06:35.39 | tensai | golden grahams |
| 06:35.40 | Maquis | with milk or dry? |
| 06:35.45 | goozbach | milk |
| 06:35.49 | Maquis | golden grahams |
| 06:36.00 | Maquis | save the frosted mini wheats for when you want dry cereal |
| 06:36.47 | goozbach | I had golden grhams for breakfast though |
| 06:36.55 | goozbach | I'll go with the honey nut |
| 06:37.23 | goozbach | ohhhh!!! |
| 06:37.59 | goozbach | Sin City gets released in just over a week |
| 06:38.20 | tensai | ooh. I just found where all the DSLAMs are. next time they break mine, I can go over and offer to help. |
| 06:38.33 | Maquis | tensai: :) |
| 06:39.01 | Maquis | tensai: DSLAM? DSL i get, what's the AM for? |
| 06:39.29 | tensai | access multiplexer |
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| 06:40.26 | xbmodder | hey all. |
| 06:40.31 | goozbach | jessica alba as nancy |
| 06:40.32 | xbmodder | Maquis, need some more advice. |
| 06:40.34 | hans | they call it DSLAM because not having internet feels like being slammed by a pickup truck in the chest |
| 06:40.34 | goozbach | w00t! |
| 06:41.34 | goozbach | rosario dawson as well! |
| 06:42.06 | Maquis | goozbach: huh? |
| 06:42.07 | Maquis | hans: :) |
| 06:44.37 | goozbach | frank millers grapic novel, Sin City is now a movie |
| 06:44.48 | goozbach | will be released on apr 1 |
| 06:45.28 | goozbach | mostly because alba and dawson very well fit their charaters |
| 06:45.46 | goozbach | well that... and they're both HAWT! |
| 06:51.07 | goozbach | not without kneeling in front of the shrine I have erected in her honor of course :) |
| 06:55.23 | bonez39 | goozbach: you like Jessica too? what's she doing now? |
| 06:55.24 | Maquis | ummm.. |
| 06:55.34 | bonez39 | I miss Dark Angel...that was a great show...... |
| 06:55.42 | bonez39 | why'd they pull it? |
| 06:55.48 | goozbach | bonez39: I've got both seasons on dvd |
| 06:55.59 | bonez39 | goozbach: really....hmmm where are you? |
| 06:56.30 | goozbach | I heard it's cause wetherley pissed off some big wig at FOX |
| 06:56.30 | bonez39 | where does one beg/borrow/steal such programming? |
| 06:56.34 | bonez39 | who is wetherly? |
| 06:56.36 | goozbach | so they moved it from sun night to thurs night against ER |
| 06:56.45 | goozbach | eyes only/logan |
| 06:56.52 | bonez39 | ah...... |
| 06:57.00 | goozbach | bonez39: DVD |
| 06:57.16 | bonez39 | eyes only/logan...he's the main male character? |
| 06:57.23 | goozbach | I'm in magna btw |
| 06:57.24 | goozbach | yup |
| 06:57.34 | bonez39 | he did those transmissions? he was in the wheelchair.. |
| 06:57.40 | goozbach | yup |
| 06:57.47 | bonez39 | cool |
| 06:58.59 | bonez39 | hmmm alba....jessica....she's a dish.... |
| 06:59.26 | goozbach | she hasn't done anything since Honey |
| 06:59.38 | bonez39 | what's HONEY? |
| 06:59.41 | goozbach | which I also own as well |
| 06:59.51 | bonez39 | I missed that one, I guess....;) |
| 06:59.52 | goozbach | kinda crappy remake of breakin |
| 07:00.16 | goozbach | she's gonna be in Sin City |
| 07:00.22 | goozbach | coming out next month |
| 07:00.29 | goozbach | and the Fantastic Four movie |
| 07:00.37 | bonez39 | hmm so...how do I get my eyeballs on such DVD's? Sin City.I have seen the trailers for that on the tele...... |
| 07:01.29 | bonez39 | provide you a few disks? |
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| 07:02.48 | goozbach | good grief it's time for me to hit the sack |
| 07:06.39 | bonez39 | thanks gooz |
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| 15:10.47 | brailsmt | is there a command that allows me to 'touch' a file and make it a specific size? |
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| 15:37.10 | tensai | this has got to be the most retarded crontab I've ever seen |
| 15:37.11 | tensai | 0 0 * * * rm -rf /tmp/* |
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| 15:47.29 | synic | I need some advice folks... |
| 15:47.48 | synic | we got a new server, and are using xmission for colocation |
| 15:48.03 | synic | the problem is that our current production server is in texas. |
| 15:48.14 | synic | what procedures are usually used to make the move as seemless as possible? |
| 15:48.51 | synic | like when the DNS propogates to the new server, how do you make sure everything is the same on the new server? |
| 15:49.11 | synic | mysql seems easy... as it can do remote connection for the short time it takes for DNS to get sorted |
| 15:49.20 | synic | but things like changing files on the server, email, and etc |
| 15:50.42 | tensai | sounds to me like you'll need to schedule an outage |
| 15:51.49 | synic | for some reason my boss (/me eyes xilch) is totally against that |
| 15:53.09 | xilch | the only outage synic needs is for my foot to be outage his rear |
| 15:53.33 | synic | :P |
| 15:54.25 | xilch | but yeah, we will schedule one if we have to. Just trying to avoid a large one |
| 15:54.37 | synic | we've been thinking about using nfs mounts to keep the filesystem in sync |
| 15:54.50 | goozbach | brailsmt: dd |
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| 15:55.34 | goozbach | dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/file bs=1024 count=20 |
| 15:55.51 | goozbach | where 20 is the size you want |
| 15:56.08 | tensai | I wouldn't recommend nfs over the internet |
| 15:56.19 | synic | tensai: why is that? |
| 15:56.44 | tensai | it's insecure and horribly challenging to firewall |
| 15:57.59 | synic | any other method we could use? |
| 15:58.17 | xilch | tensai: by insecure do you mean that it is attacked easily, or that the communication can be read easily? |
| 15:59.02 | tensai | xilch: yes, both. I've never been much of an NFS fan but then again I'm no expert either |
| 15:59.22 | tensai | synic: I'd try rsync. run it beforehand so that the outage is shorter |
| 16:00.12 | tensai | ie. run it before the swap so that at cut time you're 90% there. turn off the old server, cut the dns and start the copy. when it's done, bring up the new one. |
| 16:00.22 | xbmodder | A robot will guard its own existence with lethal antipersonnel weaponry, because a robot is bloody expensive. |
| 16:01.04 | tensai | but I'm not sjansen so I won't claim my ideas are always right |
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| 16:03.42 | levi | Good morning. |
| 16:08.26 | hans | mmm, that pizza was good |
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| 16:09.58 | goozbach | http://www.flickr.com/photos/w00kie/sets/180637/ |
| 16:10.13 | hans | not to mention nfs over the internet would be about as reliable as floppies |
| 16:10.21 | Bradipo | hans: My pizza stone broke the last time I made pizza on it! |
| 16:10.26 | hans | :( |
| 16:10.31 | Bradipo | I was a bit disappointed. |
| 16:10.43 | hans | get some tiles |
| 16:10.50 | hans | lots cheaper than a stone |
| 16:10.50 | synic | hans: really? |
| 16:10.53 | Bradipo | Not sure what happened. |
| 16:14.23 | hans | just happens to some stones |
| 16:14.37 | hans | too much moisture inside, or can't handle the heat or something |
| 16:14.49 | tensai | hans: I tried to buy tile just like Alton Brown told me. The people at home depot just looked at me like I was crazy. |
| 16:15.06 | hans | yeah, I had a hard time finding quarry tile here. never did |
| 16:15.26 | hans | but you can get smaller tile (I found 6") at tile stores |
| 16:15.42 | hans | the key is getting something unglazed and thick enough (the thicker, the more heat retention) |
| 16:15.56 | hans | they're still cheap, although not as cheap as people claim quarry tile is |
| 16:16.08 | Maquis | goozbach: way cool! |
| 16:17.38 | hans | synic: if I were you, I'd make the switch at an absolute point in time with the help of rsync such that you have a few minutes downtime max, and then make the old server partially functional or redirecting while dns catches up |
| 16:17.56 | hans | oh, and lower your ttl on the dns to be quite small in advance so that dns doesn't take long to catch up. |
| 16:19.37 | synic | does rsync support binary files? |
| 16:20.00 | synic | a lot of what we need to keep in sync is user images |
| 16:24.13 | hans | synic: yup |
| 16:24.18 | synic | woot |
| 16:24.27 | hans | woohoo, I just pruned my inbox from 100 to 10 |
| 16:25.09 | hans | like tensai said, run it once soon before the switch, then again in the downtime of the switch |
| 16:28.47 | synic | k |
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| 16:32.57 | tensai | we did something similar last week. we ran the big update with took 12 hours 2 weeks before and then incremental 1 hour updates every day until the switch |
| 16:38.45 | brailsmt | goozbach: thx |
| 16:45.03 | brailsmt | is there a linux equivalent to solaris mkfile? |
| 16:46.49 | Newsome | don't know...what does mkfile do? |
| 16:53.14 | Newsome | just creates a file? Use dd |
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| 16:56.35 | synic | alright... I'm a little confused about using rsync |
| 16:56.54 | synic | rsync --daemon seems to be ignoring the conf file |
| 16:56.55 | synic | when running the rsync command on the other machine, it never asks for the password specified in the auth user file |
| 16:57.00 | synic | just the ssh password |
| 16:57.21 | synic | then it puts all the files transferred into /root/path |
| 16:57.52 | synic | rsync --verbose --progress --stats --compress --rsh=`which ssh` --recursive --times --perms --links ./* domain:bwent |
| 16:57.57 | synic | where bwent is the "simple path name" |
| 16:58.15 | synic | that transfers everything into /root/bwent on the machine running rsyncd |
| 16:58.34 | fozz | no |
| 16:59.05 | synic | no? |
| 16:59.08 | fozz | you,re not using rsybcd at all if you use the --rsh option |
| 16:59.55 | synic | the machine I'm running that command on isn't running rsyncd |
| 16:59.56 | fozz | rsyncd adresses are like host::repository/directory |
| 16:59.58 | synic | the remote machine is |
| 17:00.08 | fozz | rigjt |
| 17:00.28 | synic | the docs say that if I use :: in the address, it'll use rsh instead of ssh |
| 17:00.39 | synic | even though I specified the rsh= option |
| 17:01.00 | fozz | if it,s running rsyncd, you don't need to connect via ssh |
| 17:01.17 | fozz | you can connect via the rsync protocol |
| 17:01.25 | synic | I want to connect via ssh for encryption |
| 17:02.04 | Newsome | export RSYNC_RSH=ssh |
| 17:02.27 | Newsome | or --rsh=ssh |
| 17:02.46 | synic | which is what I'm specifying |
| 17:03.00 | fozz | on the other hannd, if all you want to do is copy some files from one machine to another, then use --rsh=ssh |
| 17:03.22 | synic | these docs must be messed up then |
| 17:03.27 | synic | http://everythinglinux.org/rsync/ |
| 17:03.28 | fozz | but you don't need rsybd running on the remote |
| 17:03.36 | Newsome | it won't do anything with rsyncd or the rsync conf file |
| 17:04.30 | fozz | if you use ssh then you are NOT using the rsync protocol or server. |
| 17:05.24 | fozz | you're just using the rsync client to copy files via ssh |
| 17:05.36 | synic | hrmm. |
| 17:05.38 | hans | recent versions of rsync use ssh by default |
| 17:05.44 | fozz | no need for an rsync server |
| 17:05.47 | hans | rsync remotehost:/path/to/file . |
| 17:05.58 | fozz | hans: nice |
| 17:05.59 | hans | over ssh, everyone is happy |
| 17:06.09 | hans | -r if you want to do a recursive directory copy |
| 17:06.22 | hans | be careful, remotehost:/path/to/dir is different from remotehost:/path/to/dir/ |
| 17:06.31 | fozz | and -a if you want |
| 17:06.35 | fozz | yep |
| 17:06.44 | hans | the former will copy to ./dir and the latter to ./ |
| 17:13.34 | synic | ok, when starting rsync using the host::repository/directory, what password is it asking for if I'm not specifying a secure file? |
| 17:15.43 | Newsome | "secure file" ? |
| 17:17.12 | synic | er... secrets file |
| 17:25.29 | tensai | "I route therefore you are" |
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| 17:50.51 | tensai | ~lart Net::SMTP for having inconsistent syntax |
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| 18:12.30 | synic | ~lart perl for having inconsistent syntax |
| 18:12.47 | jayce_ | ??? |
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| 18:26.19 | tensai | ~lart Jayce^ for having inconsistent nicks |
| 18:27.14 | Jayce^ | hadn't noticed that it had switched me while I was away |
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| 18:44.50 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
| 18:44.58 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 18:50.52 | Maquis | mmmm... s'mores |
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| 18:59.56 | hans | http://bookofjoe.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/tombstoneconnectionresetbypeer.jpg |
| 19:02.28 | tensai | is that "logged out" or "lagged out"? |
| 19:02.58 | Bradipo | lagged. |
| 19:03.11 | Bradipo | Normally you get connection reset by peer when your connection is timed out on the remote side. |
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| 19:03.28 | lukfugl | ~lart hans |
| 19:05.59 | goozbach | such violence |
| 19:06.08 | goozbach | tsk tsk |
| 19:09.08 | lukfugl | ~hug ubuntu |
| 19:09.11 | ibot | ACTION hugs ubuntu |
| 19:11.37 | goozbach | ~lart something |
| 19:11.53 | goozbach | I had a good thing that needed larting but I forgot what it was |
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| 19:35.30 | vontrapp | our webserver has stopped responding, or at least is responding very slowly |
| 19:35.44 | vontrapp | browser reports waiting for .... |
| 19:35.53 | vontrapp | nothing shows up in access.log |
| 19:36.04 | vontrapp | restarting apache doesn't help |
| 19:36.43 | vontrapp | and in error_log upon restart: |
| 19:36.44 | vontrapp | [Thu Mar 24 12:18:40 2005] [notice] Apache/1.3.33 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10 mod_perl/1.26 configured -- resuming normal operations |
| 19:36.47 | vontrapp | [Thu Mar 24 12:18:40 2005] [notice] Accept mutex: flock (Default: flock) |
| 19:37.11 | vontrapp | i have no idea what's wrong with it |
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| 19:39.05 | vontrapp | ok, i found another access_log that is showing requests |
| 19:43.45 | byronc | vontrapp: ssl site? |
| 19:44.02 | vontrapp | nevermind, i stillno |
| 19:44.06 | vontrapp | um, no |
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| 19:48.38 | vontrapp | hmm, seems to have been a problem with mysql |
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| 20:35.48 | brailsmt | is there a way to time limit a command? |
| 20:35.58 | lukfugl | CTRL-C? :) |
| 20:36.11 | brailsmt | say, run for 1 minute, but killit after that.. |
| 20:36.21 | brailsmt | lukfugl: in a script without user intervention... |
| 20:36.59 | lukfugl | yeah, I know. Just being facetious |
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| 20:56.47 | goozbach | http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=157880&nid=5 |
| 21:01.09 | tensai | holy crap |
| 21:01.31 | Jayce^ | wow |
| 21:02.13 | Newsome | It was on the channel 2 news last night too |
| 21:02.17 | spr | I wish i could find it, but back home a whole 737 engine fell off a plane and landed throughout a neighborhood |
| 21:04.27 | bucky | ~seen levi |
| 21:04.40 | ibot | levi is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 61 messages. Is idling for 5h 58s |
| 21:14.01 | tensai | the 105mm howitzer has a 7 mile range |
| 21:14.48 | hans | brailsmt: maybe you can fork a (sleep 5; kill $previously_saved_pid) |
| 21:15.53 | hans | goozbach: sweet |
| 21:16.00 | brailsmt | hans: yeah, that was already implemented, I was hoping for something cleaner... |
| 21:16.13 | hans | too bad I wasn't in pg. that would have been cool to hear |
| 21:16.31 | hans | maybe someone at UDOT has been playing too much scorched3d |
| 21:18.16 | Bradipo | Looks like they need an editor, ``but the shrapnel went in all directions and ripped right through there house and as far away as across the street.'' |
| 21:18.30 | Bradipo | Should be ``their house'' |
| 21:19.33 | brailsmt | and there should be some commas... |
| 21:20.36 | Bradipo | Amazing! How does something like that even happen? |
| 21:21.55 | hans | as a scorched3d expert, I can attest that if it got just a bit high and the wind were blowing from the east, it's not hard to conceive |
| 21:22.13 | Bradipo | lol |
| 21:26.46 | levi | Sounds like Donnie Darko. |
| 21:27.25 | levi | spr's story does, I mean. |
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| 21:38.35 | bucky | Bradipo, ms word spell check |
| 21:39.14 | bucky | can you imagine a 105mm howitzer shell going off in your back yard? |
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| 21:40.26 | bucky | prolly peed his pants |
| 21:41.23 | bucky | remember that F-16 breaking the sound barrier over bountiful a couple of years back |
| 21:42.10 | bucky | the pilot came and apologised in person... a three year old was still shaking the next morning |
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| 21:49.57 | bucky | Orrin Hatch came to town monday and he didn't even come by my place :\ |
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| 22:05.09 | vontrapp | kinda like that lady was still shaking the next morning from recieving cookies? |
| 22:05.54 | bucky | lol ...another trip to the emergency room! |
| 22:06.23 | Peregrine | How about if the whole open source community gets together and mails here one cookie each? We could even time it so that she gets them all on the same day. :) |
| 22:06.38 | Jayce^ | a sound barrier clap would cause a little more shakeup than the cookies. :) if you've experienced it, you'd know :) |
| 22:07.32 | bucky | Jayce^, i was there when it happened.. my buddy rolled off the couch and hit the deck... we were sure the refinery had blown up |
| 22:08.03 | bucky | it broke windows in some houses |
| 22:08.23 | Jayce^ | yeah, I've been underneath one before too.. |
| 22:08.47 | Jayce^ | also saw the effect when a pilot did it over a chicken farm :) Killed 3k of them |
| 22:09.55 | bucky | concussion from the shock wave? |
| 22:10.44 | Jayce^ | shock |
| 22:10.50 | Jayce^ | scared them to death, litereally |
| 22:10.55 | goozbach | reciving cookies? |
| 22:10.59 | goozbach | ~urls |
| 22:11.10 | goozbach | |urls |
| 22:11.17 | goozbach | blasted bots |
| 22:11.54 | bucky | i hear turkeys can drown in the rain |
| 22:12.37 | Jayce^ | not all kinds, but some can, yes.. |
| 22:12.43 | Jayce^ | they stare up at it.. |
| 22:13.08 | bucky | Jayce^, did you grow up on a farm in central utah? |
| 22:13.22 | Jayce^ | no, in Washington |
| 22:13.34 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 22:13.40 | bucky | eastern washington? |
| 22:13.44 | Jayce^ | Western |
| 22:13.49 | bucky | ic |
| 22:13.52 | Jayce^ | Puget Sound |
| 22:14.46 | Jayce^ | an aviary specifically, and yes, we had 3 types of turkeys there, but didn't have a problem with drowning :) |
| 22:15.47 | neybar | smarter then the average turkey |
| 22:15.56 | bucky | they have a nice aviary in Liberty park in SLC.. it's small but nice |
| 22:16.42 | Jayce^ | actually, wild turkeys are very smart, but your other breeds are dumb as posts |
| 22:19.09 | tensai | bucky: I went there about 20 years ago. I thought it was pretty cool. |
| 22:20.10 | bucky | they have a hawk that goes into the tour audience and retreives dollar bills for donations |
| 22:20.32 | bucky | you just hold the dollar bill up in the air and the hawk comes and gets it |
| 22:21.04 | vontrapp | i wonder if it would retrieve green pieces of paper |
| 22:21.49 | bucky | and an eagle escaped one day and the aviary workers were running all over the park trying to find it |
| 22:22.20 | Newsome | does the hawk take credit cards? |
| 22:22.35 | bucky | sure.. he just doesn't bring them back |
| 22:22.51 | Jayce^ | I raised quail for a lot of the falconers in the area I grew up in... very cool to see them playing |
| 22:24.53 | Bradipo | Newsome: The real test would be to see if the hawk takes silver or gold. :-) |
| 22:25.15 | Jayce^ | or fingers :) |
| 22:25.47 | bucky | Jayce^, ever been surrounded by cooing pidgeons? |
| 22:26.54 | Jayce^ | didn't raise them (we'll had some dove's, close enough) |
| 22:26.56 | tensai | my crazy landlord in Provo had pigeons. most annoying thing on the planet to wake up to. |
| 22:27.06 | bucky | the Tracy Aviary takes donations of any monetary form http://www.tracyaviary.org/ |
| 22:27.10 | Newsome | reminds me of a commercial for _insert_name_of_beer_here_ |
| 22:27.31 | Bradipo | bucky: Anyone who has been to Washington D.C. has been surrounded by ``cooing pidgeons'' :-) |
| 22:27.36 | Newsome | The guy has this hawk who goes out and steals beer from the cafe |
| 22:27.42 | tensai | that would be better. take pigeons with you and let the hawk grab them. |
| 22:28.06 | Jayce^ | cortunix quail, the best food for them.. |
| 22:28.17 | bucky | Bradipo, or new york |
| 22:28.52 | bucky | in new york they poison the pidgeons |
| 22:29.19 | bucky | and then other animals eat them and die too |
| 22:29.58 | tensai | in high school we used to hunt pigeons to stuff in biology class |
| 22:30.18 | bucky | that's why that hawk, pale male, has had so many mates.. all died from eating poison pidgeons |
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| 22:54.24 | Tene | while my mother was in HS, she had a friend who got a job at a turkey ranch. |
| 22:54.45 | Tene | His job was to walk along the rows and pull the heads of the turkeys out of the water while they were drinking, so that they wouldn't drown. |
| 23:00.06 | bucky | domesticated farm animals aren't bred for intelligence aparently |
| 23:01.34 | neybar | People who make web pages in Front Page should be forced to forever own maintenance on that pages(s) |
| 23:02.51 | bucky | Senators are asking the Missouri Department of Natural Resources to find the source of an odor that frequently envelopes parts of the community near the Renewable Environmental Solutions-Butterball Turkey processing plants |
| 23:03.34 | bucky | neybar, Nvu is nice.. it's based on mozilla composer and it's a true wysiwyg |
| 23:04.02 | bucky | clean code and css editing capabilities |
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| 23:25.26 | bucky | Ultimate Electronics filed for Chapter 11 reorganization in January and store in Utah also will close |
| 23:26.14 | Jayce^ | yeah, the Orem store has been a major loss for them |
| 23:26.45 | JoshH | they need to do free hot dogs and sodas to draw people in. |
| 23:33.43 | levi | All the Utah stores? |
| 23:34.49 | levi | JoshH: I got free sodas more than once in Ultimate Electronics. |
| 23:35.44 | JoshH | really? i thought only rc willey did that. at least ive never heard ultimate electronics advertise free soda on the radio. :) |
| 23:37.27 | bucky | levi i think so http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1302&dept_id=181984&newsid=14216067&PAG=461&rfi=9 |
| 23:37.47 | bucky | Twenty-seven other retail stores in Kansas City, South Dakota, Texas and Utah also will close |
| 23:38.24 | Jayce^ | I think just the orem store is closing |
| 23:38.29 | Jayce^ | for utah |
| 23:40.23 | levi | JoshH: It's not a special event thing... you walk in and browse, and the salespeople ask you if you'd like a drink. |
| 23:40.40 | bucky | might have a good clearance sale with free hot dogs |
| 23:40.58 | levi | Lately it's mostly been bottled water, though. |
| 23:41.00 | JoshH | man, ive been to UE many times and cant ever recall getting a soda there. but anyway, what good is a soda without a hot dog? |
| 23:41.18 | JoshH | or pizza, rc willey has little caesars there sometimes too |
| 23:43.17 | Jayce^ | their real problem was just having *lousy* service |
| 23:43.54 | Jayce^ | only reason I bought my tv there was they beat a competitors price on an open box model (competitor) with an unopened (their own) |
| 23:44.10 | levi | I never had trouble with their service. |
| 23:44.26 | Jayce^ | you usually go to one of the SLC stores? |
| 23:44.28 | levi | I got a widescreen rear-projection TV, had a problem with it, and got it replaced under warranty. |
| 23:44.33 | levi | Yeah, it was a SLC store. |
| 23:44.36 | JoshH | ive only been to the slc stores |
| 23:44.41 | Jayce^ | apparently it's a problem pretty specific to the orem store |
| 23:44.42 | JoshH | well, and the murray store |
| 23:44.55 | Jayce^ | most the employees at other stores often commented on it |
| 23:45.02 | levi | I think I got more drinks in Orem, though. |
| 23:45.04 | Jayce^ | (had a friend that worked at one) |
| 23:45.15 | JoshH | utah needs a frys |
| 23:45.25 | Jayce^ | and a micro-center |
| 23:45.34 | levi | Frys would be nice. |
| 23:46.28 | JoshH | with as many geeks as utah has, im surprised we dont have a frys already. im sure they would do pretty good business even this relatively small market. |
| 23:46.33 | Jayce^ | fry's would make my wife become very mad at me :) |
| 23:47.42 | bucky | i've been to two fry's... i plan my vacation around it |
| 23:48.11 | JoshH | ive only been to the one in dallas |
| 23:48.18 | JoshH | it was huge |
| 23:48.30 | bucky | JoshH, what was the motiff? |
| 23:48.48 | bucky | phoenix is an ancient mayan temple |
| 23:49.08 | JoshH | it was basically like a super walmart, lots of tan and red |
| 23:49.17 | JoshH | super walmart shape, tan and red colors |
| 23:49.25 | bucky | la puente is a steam powered textile mill |
| 23:50.04 | JoshH | ill be going to phoenix for a few days this summer, ill try to check out that frys while im there |
| 23:50.31 | bucky | the one on thunderbird rd behind lowes is the mayan one |
| 23:50.48 | bucky | just off the interstate |
| 23:50.53 | JoshH | cool |
| 23:51.18 | bucky | west of the interstate |
| 23:52.24 | bucky | they have samples of all the motherboards tethered with their respective manuals so you can actually touch them |
| 23:56.14 | JoshH | pc club and universal systems here in SLC are the only local places i know of that carry abit motherboards, my favorite brand. they have them out where you can see them, but not to touch. |
| 23:57.15 | bucky | JoshH, i got an AV8 combo with a 3000+ winnie for $275 from monarchcomputer.com |
| 23:57.32 | bucky | overclocked it 2.2 G with stock cooling |
| 23:57.57 | JoshH | ya, you can get them anywhere online. most of the local here places have kind of a crappy selection though. when i got my NF7-S, universal didnt have any in stock but they ordered one for me and had it the next day. |
| 23:58.20 | xilch | JoshH: universal on 33rd south? |
| 23:58.23 | JoshH | ya |
| 23:58.38 | xilch | they are teh win |
| 23:58.44 | JoshH | indeed |
