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00:17.17sjansenhttp://www.pez.ca/~mashton/images/microputer.jpg - Seen on #linode
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00:30.31leviTsk, you're not supposed to put foil in the microwave!  He's going to blow up his PC!
00:35.07HarleyPigsnicker
00:38.11HarleyPigWell, I had to be patient but I finaly got things straight with Qwest.  The lady I finally talked to was obviously tired and ready to go home, but she was very nice to me.
00:38.54sjansenhttp://www.pez.ca/~mashton/images/rejection.jpg
00:40.16HarleyPig?! Is that a real letter?
00:40.56sjansenYou might want to avoid the directory, though.
00:41.13HarleyPigNaw ... I like the twisted and blasphemous
00:41.15sjansen*shrug* I don't know. The link just came across #linode and it had to be shared.
00:41.27sjansenAnd nude guys?
00:41.51HarleyPighaven't noticed them yet.
00:42.06HarleyPigI tend to ignore those pictures anyway. :>
00:42.41HarleyPigCamel Toe Cup.  *snicker*
00:42.53HarleyPigCougar model includes built in bottle opener.
00:45.39sjansenOne guy looked closer at the picture of the letter. It's probably faked. But still funny.
00:53.15sjansenIs DBI thread safe?
00:55.00HarleyPigIt should be.
00:55.07HarleyPigBut I can't remember where I read that.
00:55.56sjansenI assume it should be, just want to make sure.
00:56.18sjansenOh well, not important yet. I'll just keep my eyes open.
01:03.50sjansenWow. Just learning about DBI now.... Wow.
01:04.35sjansenRemind me again why everyone is using/switching to Java?
01:08.05bartwsomeone is switching to Java?
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01:09.51incubianyone know how to turn off directory indexing in apache2?
01:10.40TenebramI could find it in the config file, but I don't know off the top of my head
01:11.03sjansen-Indexes, I think.
01:12.41sjansenAnother thing, I'm having a hard time commenting with #.
01:12.52sjansenBeen using C too long, I guess.
01:17.37incubihmmm..k..i see nothing about turing indexing off
01:17.44incubimaybe it is a options thing
01:18.22incubiI want to turn off indexing server wide for apache 2.0
01:23.13sjansenhttp://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#options
01:24.09sjansenLike I said, it should just be -Indexes. (Or, since you want to remove it from the entire server, delete the Indexes entry from the main config.
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01:26.35incubigrrr..flaky connect
01:28.33sjansenDoes perl have a typeof function?
01:35.54incubino more harleypig
01:35.59incubig'nite
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04:24.07spr5~slashdot
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05:11.41emcnabbhey bigdog
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05:34.51bigdogwhatz up
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16:34.27bonez39greetings..
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19:14.26bonez39hello byron
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19:26.48byronhello
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19:54.07bonez39any of you running xchat?
19:54.17emcnabbI am
19:54.25bonez39I notice on my list of users for #utah, that "hans" is dimmed...while all the rest are dark...
19:54.26bonez39why?
19:54.40emcnabbhe is "away"
19:54.52bonez39oh, how did he mark himself 'away'?
19:55.08emcnabbdo /away Need to go take a nap
19:55.38emcnabbthen to /back to come back
19:56.01bonez39oh, I see...ok
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21:27.07Newsomeanyone here know where Tim Riker is working these days?  I noticed him on the other day.
21:28.17emcnabbI think he works at TI
21:28.20emcnabblast time I heard
21:28.25Newsomeokay
21:28.34Newsomeas in Texas Instruments?
21:28.38emcnabbyeah
21:28.42Newsomecool!
21:29.50emcnabbhttp://rikers.org/
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21:40.04sjansenibot seen TimRiker
21:40.12timriker <~timr@proxyle01.ext.ti.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 12h 11m 23s ago, saying: 'learner: sweet!'.
21:41.41emcnabbthat is cool
21:42.42emcnabbibot seen Jayce^
21:42.43jayce^ <~jayce@h-68-164-117-188.LSANCA54.dynamic.covad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1d 3h 10m 6s ago, saying: 'later folks..'.
21:43.10hansibot seen emcnabb
21:43.10emcnabb is currently on #utah (1d 16h 53m 52s).  Has said a total of 114 messages.  Is idling for 28s
21:43.25emcnabbibot seen hans
21:43.26hans is currently on #utah (7h 18m 18s).  Has said a total of 1 messages.  Is idling for 16s
21:43.54emcnabbibot seen sjansen
21:43.54sjansen is currently on #utah (1h 23m 37s).  Has said a total of 1 messages.  Is idling for 3m 50s
21:44.14emcnabbibot seen ibot
21:44.15ibot is currently on #picogui (4d 15h 18m 48s) #zaurus (4d 15h 18m 48s) #teleconf (4d 15h 18m 48s) #opie (4d 15h 18m 48s) #tomcat (4d 15h 18m 48s) #familiar (4d 15h 18m 48s) #uclibc (4d 15h 18m 48s) #intimate (4d 15h 18m 48s) #gllug (4d 15h 18m 48s) #gpe (4d 15h 18m 48s) #elinux (4d 15h 18m 48s) #openembedded (4d 15h 18m 48s) #handhelds.org (4d 15h 18m 48s) #utah (4d 15h 18m 48s) #project24 (4d 15h 18m 48s) #bzflag (4d 15h 18m 48s) #openzaurus (4d 15h 18m 48s)
21:45.20sjansenStrange, it would appear ibot isn't on #utah.
21:45.32emcnabbyeah, I was just thinking that
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21:50.34incubican someone help me with a C++ version question:  MS C++ 6.0 is that new or has it been replaced?
21:52.40sjansenThat's not a C++ question. That's a crack question.
21:59.11incubicrack?
22:00.30incubino crack..I have a CAD program that needs MS C++ 6.0 and I thought that was older
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23:35.25lukfuglanyone in here confident helping me troubleshoot opengl + xwindows?
23:36.54hanswhat card?
23:37.38lukfuglGeForce2
23:37.58hansyah
23:38.02lukfuglI've tracked it down to this error in /var/log/XFree86.0.log:
23:38.04lukfuglSymbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
23:38.04lukfugl<PROTECTED>
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23:38.38lukfuglwhich prevents GLX from loading, which prevents all OpenGL apps from working
23:39.13hanshmm
23:39.15lukfuglI figure I just have to recompile/replace some libraries, but I'm at a loss as to which ones
23:39.27hanswhat version of X
23:39.46hansdid you run the nvidia installer or does your distro have a package of it?
23:39.48lukfuglthis is the line farther down in the X log:
23:39.48lukfugl(EE) [GLX]: Failed to add GLX extension (NVIDIA XFree86 driver not found)
23:40.25lukfuglXFree86 v4.3.0
23:42.21hanshmm. libdri shouldn't be loaded with nvidia
23:44.15lukfuglsomeone on #opengl suggested updating the xfree-drm package, but according to emerge I don't even have a previous version installed, and I know this *used* to work
23:44.30hansused to before upgrading x probably
23:46.29hansdmesg | grep drm
23:47.02lukfugltried that after a web page suggested it -- no output
23:47.26lukfuglI've got mmtr, agpgart, and a line about nvidia.o, but no drm lines
23:48.05hansdo you have Load "glx" ?
23:48.05hansno output? that's probably part of your problem.
23:48.09hansdo you have the nvidia kernel modules installed?
23:48.18hanswhat is the line about nvidia.o?
23:49.30lukfugl0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module  1.0-4496  Wed Jul 16
23:49.31lukfugl<PROTECTED>
23:50.06hanshmm. ok.
23:50.20hanssay, I have that libdri.a line in my X log too, but it works fine.
23:50.44hanswhat are your other symptoms? let's assume that message is benign
23:51.33lukfuglbash-2.05b$ glxgears
23:51.33lukfuglXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
23:51.33lukfuglError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
23:53.17hansdo you have a line like NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized?
23:53.52lukfuglhans: where? X logs, dmesg, ?
23:53.58hansx logs
23:56.04lukfuglwhile looking I see this:
23:56.05lukfugl(II) NV(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
23:56.15lukfuglis that as it should be?
23:56.26hanswell there's part of your problem
23:56.33hansyou need to use nvidia not nv
23:56.42hans(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
23:56.49hansnotice NV(0) vs. NVIDIA(0)
23:56.59hansin XF86Config-4
23:57.17hanse.g.
23:57.22hansSection "Device"
23:57.23hans<PROTECTED>
23:57.23hans<PROTECTED>
23:57.23hans<PROTECTED>
23:57.23hansEndSection
23:57.23lukfuglso change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia" ?
23:57.26hansyeah
23:57.39hansif that doesn't work, /win 4
23:57.41hanser,
23:57.42hansheh
23:57.54hans<PROTECTED>
23:58.00hanspaste your X log
23:58.04lukfugldo I need to change any other fields in that section? (Identifier, VendorName, BoardName, BusID)?
23:58.11hansnah
23:59.17lukfuglon another channel (#opengl) they also claim I should have a Load "GLcore" line at the very first of my Module section (which I don't). Is that so? or does my nvidia configuration change that requirement?
23:59.34hansI have it
23:59.48lukfuglok, I'll add it
23:59.52hansI have (among others) GLcore, dri, glx

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