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| 02:47.39 | han_solo | http://www.xwinman.org/ |
| 02:55.29 | Bradipo | That's a good URL. |
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| 03:01.43 | han_solo | man some people have really odd screenshots. |
| 03:01.56 | kryptik | Anyone care to walk a friend of mine through a ruby install? |
| 03:01.57 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 03:02.10 | Bradipo | I've never seen ruby, sorry. |
| 03:02.42 | kryptik | Aight. |
| 03:06.02 | han_solo | kryptik: windows or linux? |
| 03:06.11 | kryptik | linux |
| 03:06.22 | kryptik | Can you /msg my friend and help him? |
| 03:06.38 | han_solo | sure |
| 03:06.41 | han_solo | have him msg me |
| 03:06.49 | kryptik | FireBird34 |
| 03:06.52 | kryptik | Oh ok. |
| 03:06.55 | Bradipo | Just have him join the channel. |
| 03:07.00 | kryptik | Aight that works |
| 03:07.09 | Bradipo | Unless you guys want to do it that way. :-) |
| 03:07.16 | kryptik | Ahh he is on his way. |
| 03:07.18 | Bradipo | I've never installed it, but wouldn't mind learning about it. either. |
| 03:07.20 | kryptik | Thanks for the help you guys |
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| 03:08.27 | FireBird34 | I just got the .tar.gz version of Ruby, and did the extraction. I've noticed that there is very little documentation (that I can see) on how to install it (the interpreter). Can someone either enlighten me on how to do this, or send me a link that goes through this procedure? |
| 03:09.26 | Bradipo | Usually packages include an INSTALL file... is there one? |
| 03:09.39 | Bradipo | If not, is there a ``configure'' script |
| 03:09.58 | FireBird34 | There is a config' one, but not an install |
| 03:10.47 | Bradipo | config or configure? |
| 03:10.52 | FireBird34 | Running it now -- I'll go through and see if I can get it (I'll post back here if I still have some troubles) (configure) |
| 03:11.02 | Bradipo | Yeah, try ./configure |
| 03:11.04 | Bradipo | See what you get. |
| 03:11.09 | Bradipo | If you like the defaults... |
| 03:11.28 | FireBird34 | running the make right now (first time installing it, so I don't want to mess around with the options, just yet) |
| 03:11.55 | Bradipo | Ok. |
| 03:12.01 | FireBird34 | thanks for the help |
| 03:12.05 | Bradipo | han_solo: feel free to step in anytime. :-) |
| 03:12.14 | Bradipo | I've never used ruby so I don't know anything about it. |
| 03:12.16 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 03:12.24 | FireBird34 | heh. |
| 03:12.25 | kryptik | Bradipo: your doin fine, from where I stand. |
| 03:16.21 | han_solo | Hmm. I just typed apt-get install ruby so I haven't done it from source. FireBird34: If you have trouble bradipo can't solve try #ruby-lang |
| 03:16.47 | Bradipo | FireBird34: you running on Debian by chance? :-) |
| 03:17.07 | FireBird34 | I just finished compiling it. I'm also on Mandrake =P |
| 03:17.24 | Bradipo | So, there were no errors, that's good. |
| 03:17.27 | FireBird34 | Going for Redhat one of these days though... (and getting a couple older systems with *BSD on each) |
| 03:17.34 | FireBird34 | yep, first time compiling with no errors ;) |
| 03:17.43 | kryptik | GENTOO |
| 03:17.52 | kryptik | Whoa!? Where did that come from!? |
| 03:18.12 | Bradipo | Not sure. |
| 03:18.14 | FireBird34 | Gentoo is still a baby -- talking to a few people, and they said wait for a while =) I'll take a look at it later possibly, since I have it on CD now. |
| 03:18.26 | kryptik | Bah. |
| 03:18.28 | kryptik | They are dumb |
| 03:18.31 | Bradipo | If Gentoo is a baby then Debian is for the real men. |
| 03:18.38 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 03:18.47 | kryptik | mandrake is for noobs |
| 03:18.49 | Bradipo | Mandrake is going out of business. :-) |
| 03:18.51 | FireBird34 | yea |
| 03:19.01 | FireBird34 | but Mandrake was the first OS we ever used (~ 12 years ago) |
| 03:19.18 | FireBird34 | and I just recently bought a CD burner, so now I'm going to be trying out other flavours... |
| 03:19.21 | kryptik | Yea, linux is linux... but I dont really care for mandrake all that much. |
| 03:19.37 | FireBird34 | =P |
| 03:19.38 | Bradipo | Well, if you like it, that's all that really matters I guess. |
| 03:19.38 | kryptik | is that how you canadians spell flavor? |
| 03:20.32 | FireBird34 | Bradipo: it's ok, but Mandrake really messed up alot of their programs... I couldn't compile anything for the longest time, because it didn't click in that they messed up the gcc name and such... it would be better if they actually named their programs to what everything else looks for |
| 03:20.44 | FireBird34 | kryptik: yes, flavour is the proper spelling up here :) |
| 03:21.07 | kryptik | And what about favorite and color? |
| 03:21.25 | Bradipo | RedHat isn't much better. |
| 03:21.30 | Bradipo | They screwed up a lot of things too. |
| 03:21.33 | FireBird34 | favourite : colour |
| 03:21.43 | FireBird34 | oh -- from those I talked to, they prefer redhat to most others |
| 03:21.51 | FireBird34 | although a friend of mine swears by the BSD line |
| 03:22.00 | Bradipo | I still think Debian (or possibly Slackware in second) is the best distro. :-) |
| 03:22.03 | kryptik | Mmm bsd |
| 03:22.14 | kryptik | caldera |
| 03:22.15 | Bradipo | I'm moving most of my new installs to OpenBSD. |
| 03:22.30 | kryptik | and sourcemage |
| 03:22.38 | FireBird34 | I'm getting a couple of old test boxes, so I might try out some other flavours, just to see what else is out there. |
| 03:23.34 | FireBird34 | Bradipo: I just finished installing Ruby -- thanks for the help =) |
| 03:23.40 | Bradipo | Does it work? |
| 03:23.47 | FireBird34 | yep |
| 03:23.53 | FireBird34 | just running through the sample programs right now to make sure |
| 03:23.53 | Bradipo | Nice. |
| 03:23.55 | FireBird34 | looks good so far |
| 03:23.59 | Bradipo | That wasn't so bad eh? |
| 03:24.24 | FireBird34 | nope =) First time (no joking) I went through a fully successful install... usually I'm missing modules or some other component =/ |
| 03:24.38 | Bradipo | Well, I don't imagine Ruby depends on a lot. |
| 03:24.51 | Bradipo | Being a scripting language and all. |
| 03:25.01 | kryptik | Did you have to configure the library paths? |
| 03:25.04 | FireBird34 | true |
| 03:25.09 | FireBird34 | no, everything is pre-configured |
| 03:25.14 | kryptik | Sweet. |
| 03:25.21 | FireBird34 | I just ran through the configure file and make test // make install, and that was it |
| 03:26.24 | kryptik | Sweet. |
| 04:18.24 | kryptik | Is there a way to execute a ruby script from within vim |
| 04:20.21 | kryptik | :!ruby script.rb |
| 04:20.26 | kryptik | nm, I found out how |
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| 06:48.45 | brailsmt | kryptik: if matz where to come here, i am sure that it would be open to the public... |
| 06:49.03 | brailsmt | btw, i just emailed him asking if he would be interested in such a thing... |
| 06:49.04 | kryptik | I would hope so. :) |
| 06:49.09 | kryptik | Really? |
| 06:49.14 | Bradipo | matz? |
| 06:49.22 | brailsmt | the creator of Ruby |
| 06:49.23 | kryptik | That would be awesome, let me know what happens with that. |
| 06:49.28 | Bradipo | Oh. |
| 06:50.11 | brailsmt | he is mormon, i thought that maybe he would be interested in coming to BYU to talk about ruby and stuff... |
| 06:51.06 | brailsmt | so i emailed him and asked if he would be interested if something could be arranged with the CS dept... |
| 06:51.12 | kryptik | would BYU put it on their tab though? Getting someone like him down here isnt free. |
| 06:51.16 | brailsmt | he lives in japan though, so it is unlikely |
| 06:51.42 | brailsmt | but if he ever comes here for general conference or something... |
| 06:51.55 | kryptik | Rihgt. |
| 06:51.59 | kryptik | right* |
| 06:52.00 | brailsmt | he was in the US for RubyConf just a few months ago... |
| 06:52.00 | kryptik | :) |
| 06:52.24 | kryptik | It might work out. |
| 06:52.41 | brailsmt | if he were to come here, i bet people in the ruby community would come from all over to hear from him... |
| 06:52.53 | kryptik | Yup. |
| 06:53.01 | brailsmt | kryptik: it probably won't, but if no one ever asks, then it surely never will |
| 06:54.06 | Bradipo | How big is the Ruby community? |
| 06:54.08 | kryptik | Your right about that. |
| 06:54.15 | kryptik | bradipo: small |
| 06:54.30 | kryptik | Though growing, rapidly it seems |
| 06:54.40 | kryptik | misplaced comma |
| 06:54.41 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 06:54.46 | Bradipo | I personally prefer Tcl. |
| 06:54.50 | brailsmt | it isn't small... |
| 06:54.57 | brailsmt | it isn't as big as perl though.... |
| 06:55.00 | Bradipo | As far as a scripting language is concerned. |
| 06:55.16 | kryptik | Well what is small? |
| 06:55.41 | brailsmt | the haskell community, or the Brainf**k community, for instance would be small |
| 06:55.48 | brailsmt | :) |
| 06:56.03 | kryptik | Ok. |
| 06:56.42 | Bradipo | I don't know how big they are, so I can't quantify that... |
| 06:57.12 | brailsmt | i would say that the ruby community is about the same size as the python community, maybe a little smaller in the US, but definately much larger in japan |
| 06:57.21 | Bradipo | Drat, I almost got the first post on the newest /. story. :-) |
| 06:57.34 | Bradipo | Hmm, that's interesting. |
| 06:57.40 | Bradipo | I would think that Python is bigger. |
| 06:57.55 | Bradipo | I hadn't even heard about Ruby until Tim started speaking about it. |
| 06:58.22 | kryptik | Same here. |
| 06:58.22 | Bradipo | But I have written some python code and even used some python scripts. |
| 06:58.33 | brailsmt | ruby is closing in on perl's popularity in japan... |
| 06:58.38 | Bradipo | I've never seen a Ruby script. |
| 06:58.45 | kryptik | Heh, its cryptic. |
| 06:58.51 | kryptik | Looks hard to understand. |
| 06:59.03 | Bradipo | Couldn't be worse than perl... |
| 06:59.23 | brailsmt | ruby, cryptic? |
| 06:59.27 | brailsmt | no way... |
| 06:59.34 | Bradipo | It's not even mentioned here: http://www.tcl.tk/advocacy/ |
| 07:00.28 | brailsmt | Bradipo: ruby is newer than python, that doesn't mean the community isn't about the same size, and I don't know of any numbers to quantify my assertion, so I may be way off... |
| 07:00.41 | Bradipo | Oh and by the way, ``Tcl is the leading scripting language for a wide variety of integration application needs..'' :-) |
| 07:00.53 | Bradipo | Yeah, I can understand how it could grow rapidly. |
| 07:01.11 | Bradipo | perl sucks in my opinion. |
| 07:01.18 | kryptik | I would have to agree |
| 07:01.26 | Bradipo | But sometimes you need more than shell scripting. |
| 07:01.52 | Bradipo | Most of the time, I don't, but when I do, I turn to Tcl (or awk even). |
| 07:01.58 | brailsmt | i have seen job postings from Intel for ruby and perl programmers |
| 07:02.30 | Bradipo | Interesting. |
| 07:02.34 | kryptik | Yea. |
| 07:03.14 | Bradipo | http://www.tcl.tk/advocacy/perl.html |
| 07:03.18 | kryptik | I want to create a ruby UI for interfacing with satellites. |
| 07:03.21 | kryptik | That would be cool. |
| 07:03.22 | Bradipo | 10 points comparing Tcl and Perl. :-) |
| 07:03.55 | brailsmt | the closest I have come to tcl, is ruby's tk bindings :) |
| 07:04.04 | Bradipo | Nice. |
| 07:04.14 | Bradipo | I should learn Tk a little more. |
| 07:04.29 | Bradipo | It would be good to whip out Tk apps as quickly as Tcl scripts. |
| 07:04.36 | kryptik | Oh yea. |
| 07:04.53 | kryptik | Thats one thing about ruby. The scripts are small for creating tk apps. |
| 07:05.09 | kryptik | I was looking at some, and the code is under 50 lines for a small windows with some buttons |
| 07:05.12 | brailsmt | Bradipo: if you want quick, ruby has the fewest lines of code of anything but ocaml in the language shootout... |
| 07:05.28 | Bradipo | Do you have any examples? |
| 07:05.40 | brailsmt | me? |
| 07:05.44 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 07:05.49 | kryptik | Bradipo: only what comes with the ruby win32 install. |
| 07:05.49 | brailsmt | of ruby, or ruby/tk? |
| 07:06.08 | Bradipo | Well, which were you referring to? |
| 07:06.18 | Bradipo | ``ruby has the fewest lines of code of anything...'' |
| 07:06.19 | brailsmt | i don't use ruby/tk, I prefer the FOX bindings |
| 07:06.36 | brailsmt | oh, lemme find the shootout url... |
| 07:06.55 | Bradipo | I can create a button in two lines of code. |
| 07:07.23 | Bradipo | Of course it won't do much, maybe print the current date or something. :-) |
| 07:07.34 | brailsmt | http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/ |
| 07:08.21 | brailsmt | tcl is included in the shootout |
| 07:08.59 | Bradipo | Cool. |
| 07:11.35 | brailsmt | 2 55 $step = TkButton.new(input_frame) { |
| 07:11.35 | brailsmt | 2 56 text "Step" |
| 07:11.35 | brailsmt | 2 57 command proc { |
| 07:11.35 | brailsmt | 2 58 $exec_steps = $step_in.value |
| 07:11.35 | brailsmt | 2 59 MemMgrInterface.new.execute($exec_steps) |
| 07:11.37 | brailsmt | 2 60 } |
| 07:11.40 | brailsmt | 2 61 #pack |
| 07:11.43 | brailsmt | 2 62 } |
| 07:11.54 | brailsmt | that creates a button with the action to perform when clicked |
| 07:12.00 | brailsmt | in ruby |
| 07:12.07 | kryptik | Thats insane. |
| 07:12.09 | brailsmt | of course i could put it all on one line... |
| 07:12.22 | kryptik | 8 lines of code |
| 07:12.25 | Bradipo | Hmm, I think the lines of code for many of these scripts could be reduced. |
| 07:13.00 | brailsmt | i prefer FOX to Tk anyday though... |
| 07:13.05 | Bradipo | For example, like the code for ocaml, the code for tcl can be compressed onto one line. |
| 07:13.26 | Bradipo | They just didn't do any formatting. |
| 07:13.38 | Bradipo | Or maybe ocaml doesn't understand formatting. |
| 07:13.44 | Bradipo | It is obviously fastest though. |
| 07:14.48 | Bradipo | I'm sure ruby's code could be compressed as well, though I'm not sure. |
| 07:15.50 | Bradipo | I'm surprised that java is performing so fast. |
| 07:16.20 | kryptik | Java is a good language. |
| 07:16.25 | brailsmt | if you go to the scorecard and make the LOC multiplier 100, then ruby is third behind 2 ocamls |
| 07:18.27 | kryptik | anyone here getting rid of an older computer? |
| 07:18.53 | Bradipo | Wow, writing a server in ocaml looks painful. |
| 07:20.19 | brailsmt | i wrote a webserver in ruby in 150 lines of code... :) |
| 07:20.23 | Bradipo | ruby look a lot like python. |
| 07:20.46 | Bradipo | I Karl Malone |
| 07:20.48 | brailsmt | of course I could have done ti with just one line, but i couldn't since it was for an assignment |
| 07:21.04 | kryptik | :) |
| 07:21.08 | brailsmt | Karl gonna do, what Karl gonna do |
| 07:21.19 | kryptik | What he did, I aint did |
| 07:21.27 | brailsmt | Whoppa no picko |
| 07:22.04 | brailsmt | from his Burger King commercial a few years ago :) |
| 07:22.50 | Bradipo | So, where do I change this LOC multiplier? |
| 07:23.08 | Bradipo | I found it. |
| 07:24.29 | Bradipo | So, how does this LOC score change the results? |
| 07:25.14 | brailsmt | it will multiply the lines of code score by 100, thereby making the result being heavily dependant on the lines of code score... |
| 07:25.24 | Bradipo | I see. |
| 07:25.30 | Bradipo | So the fewer lines, the higher the score? |
| 07:25.34 | brailsmt | right |
| 07:25.43 | Bradipo | Hmm. |
| 07:26.21 | brailsmt | the shootout is interesting, but not scientific... |
| 07:26.33 | Bradipo | Right. |
| 07:26.45 | brailsmt | it is a good way to compare languages on a high level though... |
| 07:27.01 | brailsmt | there are restrictions on the code tat can be submitted as well... |
| 07:28.03 | brailsmt | if all the multipliers are set to the same then ruby is #10 |
| 07:28.57 | brailsmt | its lowest rating is in performance, which is not unexpected since it is interpreted |
| 07:29.12 | Bradipo | Right. |
| 07:29.30 | Bradipo | Well, I have to go. |
| 07:29.31 | Bradipo | Later. |
| 07:29.48 | brailsmt | cya |
| 07:34.58 | kryptik | I am going to bed.. I got school in six hours. Laters :) |
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| 15:45.44 | Jayce^ | http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/02/19/engine.html |
| 15:45.48 | Jayce^ | very very cool.. |
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| 16:45.25 | Jayce^ | d'oh |
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| 17:22.05 | TimRiker | I hate hitting ctrl-alt-backspace on the wrong machine. |
| 17:22.46 | Jayce^ | what sucks is my kid has a knack for hitting that exact key sequence.. |
| 17:23.02 | Bradipo | You could always remap it in XF86Config. :-) |
| 17:23.44 | Bradipo | In fact, have a different sequence for each machine---then you would be forced to think about what you are doing. |
| 17:24.10 | Bradipo | ``Let's see, which ctrl-alt was it?'' |
| 17:24.25 | Bradipo | Of course most people would probably just try them in order. |
| 17:24.28 | Bradipo | Until it works. |
| 17:27.02 | neybar | yeah, it is pretty funny. jayce drops offline, then comes back pissed cause his son crtl-alt-backspaced him |
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| 17:33.17 | Bradipo | That's what he gets for teaching his son about ctrl-alt-backspace. :-) |
| 17:33.41 | Jayce^ | yeah right.. |
| 17:34.12 | Jayce^ | I'm sitting there working, and he walks up, get's into my lap, then before I can blink, he reaches out and hits that.. then he just looks up and smiles |
| 17:34.49 | kryptik | :) |
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| 20:12.25 | Bradipo | Welcome back FireBird34 |
| 20:12.33 | FireBird34 | ty =) |
| 20:21.58 | TimRiker | you can turn it off iirc |
| 20:22.23 | TimRiker | Option "DontZap" "boolean" |
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| 20:25.29 | brailsmt | how do I mount a disk image? |
| 20:26.09 | kryptik | Uh. Good question. |
| 20:27.23 | Bradipo | Mount it as a loop back. |
| 20:27.28 | Bradipo | mount -o loop image /mnt/point |
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| 21:37.02 | han_solo | quick poll: favorite x terminal emulator |
| 21:37.48 | CosmicPenguin | sadly, gnome terminal |
| 21:37.59 | Jayce^ | konsole |
| 21:38.03 | Bradipo | xterm |
| 21:38.09 | Bradipo | Always there, always functional. |
| 21:39.53 | han_solo | xterm is the one I keep coming back to. |
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| 21:40.06 | Bradipo | I have tried others. |
| 21:40.06 | han_solo | can't stand gnome terminal or konsole |
| 21:40.16 | han_solo | have you tried mlterm? |
| 21:40.18 | Bradipo | They have interesting bells and whistles, but don't really do terminal stuff better. |
| 21:40.20 | kryptik` | I cant either |
| 21:40.30 | Jayce^ | I like konsole's tabbing (although gnome does it now).. and the color options.. |
| 21:40.58 | brailsmt | i like Eterm |
| 21:41.10 | Bradipo | I have never heard of mlterm. |
| 21:41.17 | kryptik` | xterm works for me |
| 21:41.25 | brailsmt | it puts a nice drop shadow on te fonts |
| 21:41.37 | Bradipo | Thta would distract me. |
| 21:41.52 | brailsmt | have you seen it? |
| 21:42.55 | Bradipo | eterm? |
| 21:43.15 | brailsmt | 12.254.139.240/img/midnight2_term.png |
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| 21:43.22 | neybar | konsole |
| 21:43.34 | han_solo | Eterm is too heavy. I fire up terminals so often it needs to be lighting quick |
| 21:43.46 | Bradipo | Yeah, that would annoy me after a while. |
| 21:43.46 | han_solo | mlterm - multi-lingual terminal or something like that. |
| 21:44.03 | Bradipo | It's cool looking though, but I couldn't use it for extended periods of time. |
| 21:44.06 | han_solo | it also supports transparency and background images |
| 21:44.07 | brailsmt | i thought Eterm was light |
| 21:44.25 | Bradipo | I'm talking about this PNG. |
| 21:44.27 | brailsmt | Bradipo: i didn't even notice it until someone mentioned a week or so ago... :) |
| 21:46.20 | Bradipo | Heh. |
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| 21:54.48 | brailsmt | han_solo: not satisfied with wmaker anymore? |
| 21:55.38 | han_solo | nothing has surpassed it yet |
| 21:56.05 | han_solo | but I'm on a quest for the perfect window manager. mostly because I don't like trackpads so I want something I can drive from the keyboard easier than windowmaker |
| 21:56.27 | han_solo | so far the best candidate is a tie between fvwm and ion |
| 21:56.56 | brailsmt | i looked at ion before getting waimea |
| 21:57.45 | brailsmt | i also looked at ratpoison... |
| 21:57.51 | Jayce^ | ion is definately a lightweight.. |
| 21:58.27 | kryptik` | What are window managers |
| 22:00.11 | brailsmt | kryptik`: windowmaker, blackbox, waimea, fluxbox, are examples |
| 22:00.32 | brailsmt | kde has a windowmanager, but kde is more than just a window manager |
| 22:01.14 | brailsmt | kryptik`: a window manager, well, manages windows on your screen... placement, movement, etc... |
| 22:02.03 | kryptik` | Hmm. |
| 22:02.12 | kryptik` | Is sawfish one |
| 22:02.36 | brailsmt | yes |
| 22:02.57 | brailsmt | there are at least 20 different window managers... |
| 22:03.12 | brailsmt | probably more like 50 - 100 though... |
| 22:03.31 | kryptik` | Hmm. |
| 22:03.48 | kryptik` | I thought blackbox was a desktop environment like kde or gnome |
| 22:03.58 | brailsmt | no |
| 22:04.11 | brailsmt | at least not that i knew of |
| 22:04.15 | brailsmt | i may be wrong |
| 22:04.47 | kryptik` | Hmm, your probably right. |
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| 22:05.31 | fugalh | wdm rocks |
| 22:05.50 | kryptik` | Heh. |
| 22:05.58 | kryptik` | well hello to you too! |
| 22:06.15 | fugalh | it's like kdm and gdm but without the bloat (and has a NeXT look and feel) |
| 22:08.41 | kryptik` | Heh. |
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| 22:09.00 | fugalh | flwm shows promise |
| 22:09.15 | fugalh | fugalhfugalh |
| 22:09.24 | fugalh | fugalh |
| 22:09.26 | fugalh | miqu3ta |
| 22:09.29 | brailsmt | wdm, a login mng |
| 22:09.32 | brailsmt | mgr |
| 22:09.37 | brailsmt | oops... |
| 22:09.53 | brailsmt | forgot to switch focus, huh? |
| 22:09.55 | brailsmt | :) |
| 22:15.06 | fugalh | heh. looks like keyboard focus didn't follow screen focus. |
| 22:15.09 | fugalh | now I have to change my password |
| 22:15.31 | Jayce^ | nah, go ahead an leave it :) |
| 22:15.42 | Jayce^ | in two weeks I'll use it on your machine :) |
| 22:16.20 | kryptik` | Heh. |
| 22:23.31 | brailsmt | suddenly i don't want to do anymore homework... |
| 22:24.18 | brailsmt | s/suddenly// |
| 22:27.35 | fugalh | heh |
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| 23:04.43 | Jayce^ | hehe.. anybody know a prof. Roper at byu? I think he started this year.. maybe last.. |
| 23:05.09 | Jayce^ | I tought his son (a good friend) about knoppix.. now his dad is using it in his classes at the Y |
| 23:07.35 | fugalh | what does he teach? (haven't heard of him but I think I've seen his nameplate) |
| 23:07.48 | fugalh | (guess that means I've seen of him) |
| 23:08.51 | Jayce^ | so he's using it now to help people get used to linux for compiling and such.. |
| 23:10.48 | brailsmt | fugalh: is wdm a replacement for xdm/kdm/gdm? |
| 23:12.53 | fugalh | brailsmt: yup |
| 23:13.00 | TimRiker | me notes that althought http://mirrors.xmission.com/ does not list knoppix, http://mirrors.xmission.com/knoppix/ is a mirror. |
| 23:14.17 | brailsmt | knoppix is cool... |
| 23:15.09 | TimRiker | anyone tried the new mandrake with ntfs resizing? |
| 23:15.23 | TimRiker | it would be cool to add whatever they use to knoppix. |
| 23:16.11 | Jayce^ | no, it's the new rc1 version.. plus you need an ntfs part to resize :) |
| 23:16.39 | TimRiker | Jayce^: surely you can find a machine on campus to try it on. ;-) |
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| 23:19.24 | TimRiker | ah. there's that |
| 23:19.25 | fugalh | Jayce^: then find a campus to try it on. ;-) |
| 23:19.34 | TimRiker | public library anyone? |
| 23:20.02 | kryptik | uvsc |
| 23:20.51 | Bradipo | UVSC's network sucks. |
| 23:21.17 | kryptik | that is soooo true |
| 23:21.24 | brailsmt | uvsc's library sucks... |
| 23:21.34 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 23:21.39 | Bradipo | Well, I don't use the library as much as I do the network. |
| 23:21.56 | Bradipo | But I'm sure I would agree if I did. |
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