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| 15:53.04 | olisb | hi qopi, long time etc... |
| 15:54.43 | qopi | indeed! |
| 15:54.54 | qopi | how are you for 2moro eve then? |
| 15:55.04 | olisb | well, i think |
| 15:55.24 | olisb | where do you propose, and anyway, dont we need mr salfield too? |
| 15:55.52 | qopi | mr salfield is too busy atm |
| 15:56.08 | olisb | just u n me then? |
| 15:56.10 | qopi | he and tav are meant to be showing a proto of their new software to k2a on 23rd |
| 15:56.29 | olisb | right, again, shall i hold my breath? |
| 15:56.41 | olisb | btw, are there any rooms at sanford going atm? what is the deal with the waiting list etc? |
| 15:56.51 | qopi | there are nearly always rooms |
| 15:56.56 | qopi | no waiting list |
| 15:57.00 | qopi | placements ever month |
| 15:57.11 | qopi | can find out when the next one is and how many rooms are going |
| 15:57.31 | olisb | why always rooms if its so cheap? |
| 15:57.45 | qopi | coz lots of people come and go |
| 15:57.51 | qopi | and all word of mouth afaik |
| 15:58.00 | qopi | lol |
| 15:58.24 | olisb | can u check 4 me, i'd appreciate that... |
| 15:58.31 | qopi | ok, for you? |
| 15:58.38 | olisb | yeh |
| 15:58.44 | qopi | what about Loo? |
| 15:58.54 | qopi | (rooms are meant to be for single people) |
| 15:59.02 | qopi | (though louds of couples live here) |
| 15:59.21 | qopi | (they just have a room each) |
| 15:59.34 | qopi | what's up? |
| 15:59.39 | olisb | she wouldnt want to live there |
| 15:59.50 | olisb | too far from her skool |
| 15:59.50 | qopi | getting itchy feet? |
| 16:00.04 | qopi | or just on a mission to save money? |
| 16:00.06 | olisb | nah, fed-up feet |
| 16:00.21 | qopi | man, that's a shame |
| 16:00.22 | olisb | sick of arguing etc |
| 16:00.27 | qopi | oh, I see |
| 16:00.37 | qopi | really that bad? |
| 16:00.37 | olisb | depends how u looko at it |
| 16:00.49 | qopi | how long has it been? |
| 16:01.15 | olisb | who said bad, i just want to check out... it feels like hotel california here sometimes... |
| 16:01.26 | olisb | er... too long? |
| 16:01.41 | qopi | er...possibly I guess |
| 16:01.48 | qopi | you'd know better than I! |
| 16:02.21 | olisb | anyroad, i'd appreciate the tip on sanford, the land lady has the house on the market and we have to be out by xmas |
| 16:02.39 | qopi | right, so you both need to find a new place anyway |
| 16:02.46 | olisb | yup |
| 16:03.04 | qopi | that makes it seem less of a surprise |
| 16:03.44 | olisb | ta :) |
| 16:03.50 | qopi | you want me to send you application form? |
| 16:04.00 | qopi | get the ball rolling |
| 16:04.01 | olisb | how was the antiques? |
| 16:04.07 | olisb | ok |
| 16:04.07 | qopi | boring as usual |
| 16:04.14 | olisb | u make $? |
| 16:04.28 | olisb | (is it a digital form?) |
| 16:05.22 | olisb | hey, have u been chackin for sales from UD lately? |
| 16:05.55 | olisb | cool |
| 16:06.30 | qopi | did miss a sale once when we had 2 seperate shops up, but then deleted the old one so it wouldn't happen again |
| 16:06.39 | qopi | luckily is was just janos |
| 16:06.47 | qopi | so wasn't too peeved about long delay |
| 16:06.58 | olisb | do u have a url for Omni World Vision? |
| 16:07.08 | qopi | +t |
| 16:07.31 | qopi | http://omniworldview.com |
| 16:08.10 | olisb | ahhh, if only everything was that reliabe :) |
| 16:08.19 | olisb | wot r u procrastinating from? |
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| 16:09.36 | qopi | cleaning the toilets! |
| 16:10.04 | qopi | always filing and stuff to do to |
| 16:10.13 | olisb | lol |
| 16:10.23 | olisb | at ur moms or sanford? |
| 16:10.26 | qopi | sanford |
| 16:10.42 | olisb | blimey, is that on a rota? |
| 16:10.55 | qopi | yeah, in my house we've got a weekly rota |
| 16:11.00 | qopi | not too bad really |
| 16:11.03 | qopi | 8 of us |
| 16:11.09 | qopi | so only every 2 months or so |
| 16:11.20 | olisb | not too bad if pepps chip in, shitey if they dont... |
| 16:11.27 | qopi | and my house is certainly one of the cleanest |
| 16:11.53 | qopi | yeah, generally it seems peep in my house (and others, but not all obviously) clean up after themselves |
| 16:12.26 | qopi | but people do tend to start taking the piss if someone hasn't been doing the rota and the house is getting messier and messier |
| 16:13.04 | qopi | i've already done the kitchen and hall, but should've really got it all done by friday before last |
| 16:13.10 | qopi | still, I clean very well |
| 16:13.18 | qopi | and others take the piss more |
| 16:14.19 | olisb | coop in action... |
| 16:14.32 | qopi | heh |
| 16:14.43 | qopi | yeah, could all be a lot better |
| 16:14.51 | qopi | but still very good |
| 16:15.10 | olisb | well, it looks like those omni chaps might be able to help solarc... |
| 16:15.40 | olisb | my boss is looking for £5m and wants to sell shares, i think he's a muppet |
| 16:15.43 | qopi | got home skint and within no time had a pack of baccy and 25 squid ;) |
| 16:16.05 | olisb | that's what its really asbout, not the bogs and the cleaning! |
| 16:16.23 | olisb | w can live with a slightly dirty floor, but not without baccy! |
| 16:17.17 | qopi | (other than once to one about our Carbon 60 eco-reburbishment project) |
| 16:18.30 | qopi | basically, when I've got a bit of cash I get a load of something everyone wants/needs from Community Foods |
| 16:18.49 | qopi | so far just the laundry and washing liquid |
| 16:18.57 | qopi | but more to come |
| 16:19.00 | qopi | :) |
| 16:20.48 | olisb | it could be fun... :) |
| 16:21.19 | olisb | r there other groovy housing coops anywhere nearer the city? |
| 16:21.54 | qopi | saul lives in one in rotherithe which sounds amazing |
| 16:21.59 | qopi | but no spaces |
| 16:22.06 | qopi | (he is actually sub-letting himself) |
| 16:22.44 | qopi | olisb: I think we should start a housing co-op of our own |
| 16:23.23 | qopi | even if it is just a few of us clubbing together (by forming a housing co-op) to buy a big old house which we could convert into a load of eco-flats for members |
| 16:23.28 | olisb | easier said than done tho (before xmas!) |
| 16:23.56 | qopi | storm has already helped set-up about 3 housing co-ops |
| 16:24.14 | qopi | and James in house 4 is planning to start one in deptford area |
| 16:24.31 | olisb | how has sorm managed that? |
| 16:24.35 | olisb | storm |
| 16:25.11 | olisb | with loans on delapidated propoerties? |
| 16:25.47 | qopi | yeah, with mortgages |
| 16:26.11 | qopi | quite easy for housing co-op to get big cheap mortgages |
| 16:26.44 | olisb | lets defo meet 2morro and talk this thru more |
| 16:26.49 | qopi | you don't even have to have money! |
| 16:26.54 | qopi | one of the co-op |
| 16:26.55 | olisb | shall i come to sanford? |
| 16:27.11 | qopi | 's storm help to set-up was previously a load of squats |
| 16:27.49 | olisb | but how/ who from/ can squatters borrow money to buy prooperty without any deposit etc... |
| 16:28.10 | qopi | but now housing benefit covers to the rent that pays the mortgage that the housing co-op got |
| 16:28.19 | qopi | by forming a housing co-op |
| 16:28.23 | olisb | ...ahhhh |
| 16:28.28 | qopi | the housing co-op gets the mortgage |
| 16:28.32 | qopi | not the skint members |
| 16:28.43 | olisb | do u know any one from Omni, personally? |
| 16:28.55 | qopi | not really |
| 16:29.02 | qopi | met briefly with one chap once |
| 16:29.09 | qopi | pretty sure tom and tav |
| 16:29.16 | qopi | have chatted to him a bit more |
| 16:29.47 | qopi | at the conference that James in house 4 organised with storm |
| 16:30.16 | qopi | storm launched The Olan Trust |
| 16:36.07 | qopi | so, anyway... |
| 16:36.19 | olisb | what's the margin? |
| 16:36.27 | qopi | The Olan Trust is gonna consist of 3 legal bodies |
| 16:36.45 | qopi | (not much margin, just doing coz we blatantly should) |
| 16:36.56 | olisb | is therre a w-mashine in each house? |
| 16:37.20 | qopi | a Trust, a Charitable Incorporate Organisation and a Community Interest Company |
| 16:37.26 | qopi | yes, washing machine in each house |
| 16:37.59 | qopi | the CIC is gonna be a land and property investment company |
| 16:38.46 | olisb | sounds groovy, but surely he needs huge backing? |
| 16:39.17 | qopi | there is actually loads of money out there atm for such things |
| 16:39.26 | qopi | we so need to get some of it |
| 16:39.38 | qopi | and storm probably will I imagine |
| 16:41.03 | olisb | is it different to storms? Sounds like there may be much to agin from joining forces... |
| 16:41.18 | olisb | gain |
| 16:41.36 | qopi | no it is the same as storms...basically the groovy plan is Olan + The Hub + Synergy |
| 16:42.15 | qopi | I think they should get together |
| 16:43.11 | qopi | man, imagine if we could pull them together to form a partnership who would buy all the old pub's in london and convert them into synergy centres, with a hub and housing co-op! |
| 16:43.22 | qopi | that would so rock |
| 16:43.30 | qopi | and I think it is actually totally doable |
| 16:43.38 | olisb | that's not just a groovy plan, that's yet another uper level complete new system uber plan! |
| 16:43.45 | qopi | lol |
| 16:44.04 | olisb | but its nice ! |
| 16:45.50 | qopi | olisb: you got a car in london atm? |
| 16:45.58 | olisb | nah |
| 16:48.20 | qopi | not to worry |
| 16:49.21 | qopi | you could come along |
| 16:49.28 | qopi | or i could not bother |
| 16:49.38 | qopi | its a last minute not committed affair |
| 16:49.53 | qopi | an event on climate change |
| 16:50.46 | olisb | what u doin 2nite? |
| 16:51.19 | qopi | meant to be going to totally clear out my old room at my mum's so she can start decorating it |
| 16:51.33 | qopi | Sara Harris moving in there on Sunday |
| 16:51.40 | olisb | oh, that ol' cheasnut! |
| 16:51.59 | olisb | oh - your mom'll like that! |
| 16:52.39 | olisb | do they draw a big crowd |
| 16:52.59 | olisb | probably not on cold tuesday nights.... |
| 16:53.01 | qopi | dunno, but I'd have to cycle my trailer from my mums |
| 16:53.10 | qopi | in w hampstead down to synergy to get some books |
| 16:53.15 | olisb | loo saw u cycling your trailer the othe rday |
| 16:53.25 | olisb | past kings x |
| 16:53.29 | qopi | then back up to euston with books |
| 16:53.31 | olisb | u didnt c her tho |
| 16:53.40 | qopi | you are correct |
| 16:53.47 | qopi | i did not see loo |
| 16:53.54 | olisb | that's quite a slog if u dont sell alot |
| 16:54.00 | qopi | exactly |
| 16:57.24 | qopi | http://forum.campaigncc.org/?q=node/99 |
| 16:57.38 | qopi | might draw a few peeps |
| 17:05.56 | qopi | btw olisb |
| 17:06.09 | qopi | you wanna help out with stall at Peace Not War gig on Friday night? |
| 17:07.04 | qopi | its the launch of their new monthly residency at Jamm Bar in Brixton |
| 17:20.56 | olisb | i'd defo be up for that but may be goign to leicester at the w/e |
| 17:27.58 | qopi | when will you know? |
| 17:38.10 | olisb | er... friday night!? |
| 17:51.50 | qopi | olisb: so what you fink we should do 2moro? |
| 17:52.01 | qopi | to stall or not to stall |
| 17:52.20 | olisb | it might be good |
| 17:52.29 | olisb | but it's u who has 2 cycle |
| 18:23.38 | qopi | olisb: anything happening? |
| 18:25.45 | olisb | no news yet |
| 18:28.35 | qopi | has been missing out too much on all the nice activities down at the synergy centre |
| 18:28.41 | qopi | wants to go there 2moro eve |
| 18:28.47 | qopi | wanna join me there? |
| 18:45.27 | qopi | olisb: i've sent you a copy of my sanford application form |
| 18:45.46 | olisb | ta |
| 18:46.06 | olisb | ok, cool, that's much easier for me, what's happeningat synergy 2morro theN |
| 18:48.03 | qopi | sent to open.coop |
| 18:51.37 | qopi | Gloria might be offered a job with http://www.i-to-i.com/ on Friday |
| 18:53.21 | olisb | cooli :) is she not happy with the red cross, or whoever it was... |
| 18:54.11 | qopi | she kinda is happy, but she's always want to go and work abroad for a while |
| 18:54.28 | qopi | and wants to get much more hands-on |
| 18:54.51 | qopi | rather than doing budgeting and writing communications strategies etc |
| 18:55.29 | qopi | the thing that makes her want to stay at Red Cross is that she is applying to also join their ERU |
| 18:55.34 | qopi | Emergency Response Unit |
| 18:55.42 | qopi | and me |
| 18:55.44 | olisb | blimey |
| 18:55.58 | olisb | action woman! we need more of them! |
| 18:58.11 | olisb | 'Synergistas' that's nice :) |
| 18:58.27 | olisb | yeah, mr procrastinata! |
| 18:59.02 | qopi | so, see you at Synergy at 8ish 2moro? |
| 18:59.22 | olisb | ok |
| 18:59.27 | qopi | coolio :) |
| 18:59.30 | qopi | baked |
| 18:59.32 | olisb | what happened with the tickets then?> |
| 18:59.39 | olisb | did someoine rip em off!!!? |
| 18:59.45 | qopi | yep |
| 18:59.52 | qopi | someone printed and sold a load of fakes |
| 18:59.53 | olisb | ouch, now thats nasty! |
| 19:00.07 | qopi | and they didn't realise until the end of the night |
| 19:00.17 | olisb | shite! |
| 19:00.20 | qopi | (well, towards the end at least) |
| 19:00.29 | olisb | not much they could do then tho... |
| 19:00.35 | qopi | nope |
| 19:00.41 | qopi | cya 2moro |
| 19:00.43 | olisb | bum, |
| 19:00.45 | olisb | ok |
| 19:00.49 | olisb | chow |