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| 14:50.09 | salfield | hello Tricknik |
| 14:50.53 | salfield | dymtri I presume? |
| 14:51.00 | Tricknik | hello tom! yes, it's dmytri. |
| 14:51.23 | Tricknik | I am also in the #esp group trying to understand what esp is. |
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| 14:51.56 | salfield | esp is a technology collective/ex-company |
| 14:52.17 | salfield | aiming to create a new distributed system called the plex |
| 14:52.36 | Tricknik | yes, that is what urgen is explaining a little. |
| 14:53.23 | salfield | okay cool |
| 14:53.31 | qopi | hello salfield, Tricknik |
| 14:53.37 | salfield | do you have a technical background/interest |
| 14:53.46 | Tricknik | Nice to see you here. Yes, I am a programmer. |
| 14:53.54 | Tricknik | (mostly information stuff, web, etc) |
| 14:54.01 | qopi | languages? |
| 14:54.23 | Tricknik | whatever I need, these days that means php/perl/python/javascript/sql, etc. |
| 14:54.26 | urgen | ( never trust an urgen ) |
| 14:54.32 | qopi | ready to skype tom? |
| 14:54.37 | urgen | like I said I'm pretty periperal to espia |
| 14:54.37 | salfield | Tricknik, qopi is Josef from Open Coop and Uniteddiversity |
| 14:54.49 | urgen | +h |
| 14:54.56 | Tricknik | hello qopi! |
| 14:55.04 | salfield | have you seen wiki.uniteddiversity.com? |
| 14:55.28 | salfield | qopi just a sec, finding the headset |
| 14:55.44 | Tricknik | I have a little, yes, but need to spend more time to get the full scope of open.coop and its releted community. |
| 14:57.32 | salfield | qopi whats your id |
| 14:57.52 | qopi | jdaviescoates |
| 14:57.58 | qopi | is yours tom_salfield? |
| 14:58.04 | salfield | yep |
| 14:58.17 | qopi | it doesn't show you as online |
| 15:07.41 | Tricknik | enjoy your skyping, chat more later... |
| 15:13.38 | qopi | hmm |
| 15:13.48 | qopi | salfield: i think the loop might have been at your end |
| 15:14.00 | qopi | my problems don't happen when i speak to echo1223 |
| 15:14.02 | qopi | my problems don't happen when i speak to echo123 |
| 15:14.20 | salfield | strange |
| 15:14.38 | qopi | indeed |
| 15:15.44 | Tricknik | (unreliable proporietary software :) ) |
| 15:16.00 | salfield | :) |
| 15:16.40 | nsh | ;-) |
| 15:16.59 | salfield | any suggestions for more reliably free software? |
| 15:17.29 | Tricknik | Something sip based? |
| 15:18.15 | Tricknik | http://www.fwdout.net |
| 15:18.20 | qopi | salfield: sip phones |
| 15:23.10 | Tricknik | in anycase, I am very happy to have discovered the open.coop community, I look forward to finding out more about everything. |
| 15:23.41 | Tricknik | Is there a concise reading list to get me up to speed? |
| 15:24.29 | salfield | I glad you have found us too, |
| 15:24.43 | salfield | btw I feel like a fool using skype |
| 15:25.49 | Tricknik | salfield, don't feel like a fool. Heck, I still use //normal telephones// how backward is that? :) |
| 15:26.17 | salfield | Tricknik, at least they work ;) |
| 15:26.47 | salfield | hmm concise :-/ |
| 15:27.05 | Tricknik | true. a close of friend of mine even set up my normal phone to be reachable by voip, si I have a toronto number that rings in Berlin :) |
| 15:28.15 | Tricknik | That way my Toronto freinds can phone me here free. |
| 15:30.14 | salfield | cool |
| 15:30.17 | salfield | Let me show you, what I am upto atm |
| 15:30.34 | salfield | http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=VOOP+functional+spec |
| 15:31.16 | salfield | its not very concise at all, but it gives the general idea |
| 15:31.18 | Tricknik | (reading...) |
| 15:33.18 | salfield | and here is what qopi is upto lately http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=Creative+Regen |
| 15:33.25 | Tricknik | this sounds simular to a concept friends of mine and I have called "GNUverment" |
| 15:34.33 | salfield | wikracy, democrawiki, etc is whats been on my mind |
| 15:35.01 | salfield | but I havent got it yet |
| 15:35.33 | Tricknik | interstgly, a lot of my work has also beenwiki realted recently. |
| 15:35.56 | salfield | anything for us to read? |
| 15:36.59 | Tricknik | Alan Robertson of Linux-Ha has written something here: |
| 15:37.01 | Tricknik | http://www.linux-ha.org/WikiTransclusion |
| 15:37.15 | qopi | well, i dunno salfield |
| 15:37.20 | salfield | anything for us to see, of your work |
| 15:37.34 | Tricknik | the previous generation: |
| 15:37.52 | Tricknik | noii.trick.ca, re.trick.ca, www.catchdaflava.com |
| 15:37.52 | salfield | qopi nice freaky elekronika, but I cant here you |
| 15:37.54 | qopi | i read a few faqs and they said that I might need to turn off mic "capture" so i did, but that seems have made it even worse |
| 15:38.45 | Tricknik | current work has only two test sites, http://www.kleiner-weise.de/radorg and http://www.kleiner-weise.de itself |
| 15:39.12 | Tricknik | (both in test stages currently, still have a long way to go before I release anything) |
| 15:40.04 | Tricknik | (also.. I am by no means a graphic artist, so the stuff is quite plain) |
| 15:45.38 | salfield | mmm tastes good |
| 15:46.25 | Tricknik | :) |
| 15:50.24 | Tricknik | there also a few more examples of my older work, like techcefacos.trick.ca, symbio.trick.ca and the linux-ha website (which is a fork of my old code). |
| 15:50.44 | Tricknik | also, this project should intetrest you as well http://www.xpona.net |
| 15:51.37 | Tricknik | the interesting thing about all these sites is that they use a wiki as a back-end cms. |
| 15:51.55 | Tricknik | (except xpona, which is only a wiki) |
| 15:59.42 | salfield | lots of nice sites :) |
| 15:59.54 | Tricknik | thanks :) |
| 16:00.18 | Tricknik | the new code is much better than the old code, but I have soooo much farther to go. |
| 16:00.53 | salfield | the esp guys are big on application wiki's |
| 16:01.08 | salfield | what language are you using for you wiki work? |
| 16:01.46 | Tricknik | the wiki itself is python (MoinMoin), but I only need to right some macros for this. |
| 16:02.23 | Tricknik | my "tricked transcluding template system" is in PHP, because it's ubiquity on servers. |
| 16:02.49 | Tricknik | the provisioning system (which does nto exist yet) will probably be a mixed bag of perl/python/bash, etc. |
| 16:03.15 | Tricknik | (write some macros that is) |
| 16:05.17 | Tricknik | c-base also uses MoinMoin in there wiki, is Tav involved with that at all? |
| 16:06.50 | salfield | I dont know much about tavs involvment there |
| 16:07.31 | salfield | he was using it alot when he was in Berlin before I think |
| 16:07.42 | salfield | but he has been back in London for a few months |
| 16:07.59 | salfield | and is only back there for a few week now (or so he claims :)) |
| 16:08.09 | Tricknik | I see. |
| 16:08.20 | Tricknik | Do you have anyplans to visit Berlin? |
| 16:08.37 | salfield | not yet, but I'd love to |
| 16:08.48 | Tricknik | You are in london? |
| 16:08.55 | salfield | yeah, |
| 16:09.25 | Tricknik | well, rumour has it comming for a beer here in berlin is cheeper than going out in london, including the airfare :) |
| 16:09.39 | Tricknik | (yes I know that the cheep flights are an environmental problem) |
| 16:11.10 | salfield | heh, probably, its a time thing atm more than a cost thing |
| 16:11.57 | salfield | but I want to see berlin properly, my grandparents grew up there, but I have never been there |
| 16:12.30 | Tricknik | well it's a great town, I've been here almost two years now, I quite enjoy it. |
| 16:12.46 | salfield | where are you from originally? |
| 16:13.00 | Tricknik | I was raised mostly in Toronto. |
| 16:13.13 | salfield | well maybe originally is a tough question |
| 16:13.31 | salfield | oh, hence the Canadian links and connections |
| 16:13.43 | Tricknik | I was born in the Ukraine, I have also spent time living in Brazil and Belgium gwoing up. |
| 16:14.08 | Tricknik | Yes, hence the Canadian links and connections :) |
| 16:14.11 | salfield | wow, great, an internationalist |
| 16:14.28 | Tricknik | an unbred resident of post nation :) |
| 16:16.08 | salfield | see you later |
| 16:16.13 | Tricknik | :) |
| 16:16.17 | Tricknik | see you later. |
| 16:16.24 | Tricknik | cheers. |
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| 18:09.53 | Monty | hey lisppaste2 |
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| 23:04.38 | Monty | But what does qopi have to do with the price of fish? |
| 23:05.08 | qopi | hello salfield |
| 23:05.48 | salfield | hello qopi |
| 23:06.26 | salfield | wow, lucky qopi |
| 23:06.29 | salfield | who is that? |
| 23:06.45 | salfield | and she... |
| 23:06.55 | qopi | remember Sarah who I asked for a coffee in the street? |
| 23:07.00 | salfield | yeah |
| 23:07.02 | qopi | her |
| 23:07.19 | salfield | at sandford or in hampstead? |
| 23:07.28 | qopi | west hampstead |
| 23:07.40 | salfield | cool, and a positive response :) |
| 23:07.45 | qopi | yes |
| 23:07.53 | qopi | though she is currently taken |
| 23:08.02 | qopi | she did mention it was rocky |
| 23:08.05 | salfield | all the best ones always are |
| 23:08.09 | salfield | taken |
| 23:08.15 | salfield | and rocky for that matter |
| 23:08.53 | qopi | heh |
| 23:09.08 | salfield | well, good luck, take it slowly |
| 23:09.19 | salfield | if thats possible |
| 23:09.24 | qopi | heh |
| 23:09.43 | qopi | I'm not sure it is, but I think I might be able to manage it :) |
| 23:10.06 | qopi | I apologised for the over the top letter I sent her before |
| 23:10.13 | qopi | but I think she actually quite liked it |
| 23:10.33 | qopi | she gave me her number again |
| 23:10.47 | qopi | but pointed out that she's been cut-off, so not working atm |
| 23:12.12 | salfield | qopi, is in love :) |
| 23:12.41 | qopi | (who she lives with) |
| 23:12.51 | qopi | they both really liked me too :) |
| 23:13.04 | qopi | he now uses firefox and delicious too :P |
| 23:13.29 | qopi | all in all, an evening well spent :) |
| 23:16.57 | salfield | so now you just have to meet the boyfriend - ouch |
| 23:18.03 | qopi | er, no. now she has to realise it is not working out with her boyfriend ;) |
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| 23:47.46 | qopi | purl: help |
| 23:51.35 | qopi | purl: -chan help |
| 23:52.04 | qopi | purl: +chan #creativeforum |
| 23:52.24 | qopi | purl: join #creativeforum |