IRC log for #ubuntu-utah on 20071005

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00:23.09b0nza1** (gnome-settings-daemon:11900): WARNING **: Unable to connect to dbus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-E0etKRHFUZ: Connection refused
00:23.16b0nza1anyone seen that after an upgrade?
00:24.37Heartsbanenope
00:24.55b0nza1leave it to me to find something special
00:24.55b0nza1lol
00:34.15mheathI was going to suggest he clear out his home dir for the user in question
00:34.27mheathor clear out the Gnome related setting files
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01:10.50herloHeartsbane: tx
01:14.48mheathLots of Gnome stuff uses those settings files for authentication related stuff
01:15.00mheathand if you upgrade the software but have old configs, auth stuff can sometimes get broken.
01:16.27Heartsbaneya well he will back on later if I know b0nza1
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02:45.08ZelutYorokobi: Just finished a post that'll publish Tue on installing Firefox for KDE with no dependencies.
03:41.51mrpull-ltI'm getting an error while letting update manager grab today's batch of patches for Gutsy
03:41.54mrpull-ltE: /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.3.2-1ubuntu4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt', which is also in package libcupsys2
03:42.00mrpull-ltanybody else see similar?
03:42.16Zelutyep
03:42.26ZelutI've been on a *long* thread about it on launchpad.
03:42.27mrpull-ltjust a broken package?
03:42.37Zelutyeah, if you ignore it it should be fixed soon
03:42.45mrpull-ltI figured it was a wait and it'll be fixed tomorrow type issue
03:42.50Zelutthere is a workaround if you *really* need it.. but if you can wait until tomorrow...
03:42.57mrpull-ltnope.  not a rush.
03:46.13YorokobiIIRC, dpkg --force-overwrite --install /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.3.2-1ubuntu4_i386.deb
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04:28.24b0nza1man that suckeed
04:47.58SorenStoutnerb0nza1: What did you have to do to fix the problem?
04:49.03b0nza1i didnt fix it..
04:49.14b0nza1my whole system craped out after an update
04:49.36b0nza1fonts started gong freaky..the sudo quit working and about half everything else
04:49.37b0nza1lol
04:50.37b0nza1so i started backup my mythubuntu install and updating it... to see what happens... maybe it was the disk was corupted
04:50.56b0nza1if i could get sound to work in kubuntu i wouldnt care
04:52.08b0nza1wow..lagging
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06:05.23b0nza1now...finally got window borders fixed.. next... to my sound
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10:34.03Heartsbanemorning everyone
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14:24.04SorenStoutnerGood morning.
15:01.10atoponcemorning
15:07.37Zelutmorning
15:09.30maquis|phoenyx|: where's the chnace to tout evilwm?
15:09.44maquis(sorry... delayed reaction... worked from home yesterday)
15:11.23atoponceapparently, i missed a step on my gentoo install getting the partitions written to disk
15:12.21atoponceyet, df -h shows them listed...
15:12.57atoponcecyclone: ping
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15:24.15atoponcewoot. got gentoo installed in vm
15:37.24tristanbobhttp://education.zdnet.com/?p=1253
15:37.25tristanbobA couple caveats: Don’t try to upgrade your existing OpenSUSE installations from the repositories. Between excessive traffic and a large warning on the OpenSUSE website against such an upgrade, it probably isn’t a good idea. I tried it anyway and ran into too many problems (ultimately, I just never got it installed; the results could have been an unstable system, though).
15:37.56tristanbobsuse still hasn't figured upgrades yet?
15:39.14herlotristanbob: was that from an rc to the full?  or from 10.2 to 10.3
15:39.32herloI actually can see *not* being able to upgrade from an rc, but a full version upgrade...?
15:39.53tristanbobherlo: I'm just quoting that article
15:40.12herlotristanbob: oh
15:40.24herlotristanbob: I thought this was you..
15:42.40herlo~lart yawning
15:42.40jbotslaps yawning around with a large trout
15:45.11tristanbobpoor yawning, he got trouted!
15:47.33atoponcebecause maquis yawned
15:48.36Zelutherlo: there is a box from IBM here for you.
15:50.47atoponceZelut: so, how do i add my delta skymiles to my expedia account?
15:51.15Zelutatoponce: ...I'll have to log into mine to remember
15:52.34atoponcenm. found it
15:53.04Zelutatoponce: my profile, flight settings
15:53.28atoponcei don't have a flight settings...
15:53.49atoponceoh. nm
16:10.42ZelutACDC in the morning... probably not healthy :)
16:11.03YorokobiOzzy is a better choice
16:13.13KemotahaThis has got to be one of the funniest comics I have read in a while: http://xkcd.org/325/
16:22.57tristanbobKemotaha: you must use ebay
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16:33.58Zelutwhat is gnomes bitttorrent client? bittorrent-gnome or something?
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17:05.17HundingZelut: go for the gusto...listen to GnR :)
17:08.41Zeluterg. ./configure is complaining at me
17:08.55Zelutthis is why god invented aptitude!
17:11.29HundingI thought it was Ian Murdock...I had not realized there was divine intervention.
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17:12.12Zelutchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
17:12.19ZelutI'm stuck.
17:21.48nearnZelut: what app are you trying to compile from scratch?
17:22.33Zelutnearn: its a patch for kryptomedia as part of kde media manager
17:22.57Zelutnearn: supposed to allow smarter luks encryption support within KDE (like gnome has)
17:24.34Zelutnearn: http://strony.aster.pl/tanis/kde_luks/
17:24.38synicZelut: maybe apt-get build-dep kate or something, you get the dev libs.
17:24.42synicer.. so you
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17:29.29Zelutworth a try I guess
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18:16.35mheathZelut: Do you have xorg-dev installed?
18:17.39mheathThats a meta package that will get you everything you need
18:18.00mheathIf you want to bea  bit leaner, libx11-dev is probably what that's looking for
18:25.20Zelutmheath: I've tried libx11-dev.. I'll try xorg-dex
18:25.22Zelut*dek
18:25.26Zeluterg. dev
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20:15.07tristanbobok - I officially hate evolution
20:15.12tristanbobit has crashed a dozen times today
20:15.22tristanbobIt never remembers my password to frequent contacts
20:15.37tristanbobsometimes I never get my groupwise address book
20:16.02tristanbobI have tried the groupwise client for linux, but it sucks!  not even an undo!
20:16.09tristanbobso I think I am going to Windows
20:16.32tristanbobthank you crappy evolution
20:19.22moriancumertristanbob: How about thunderbird?
20:19.50tristanbobthat will work for email, but I need calendar and company addressbooks
20:25.14tristanbobI guess I can live in the web-interface.... <<sigh>>
20:35.41atoponceyou're going back to windows, because of *one* application?
20:35.52atoponcetristanbob: either your being sarcastic, or i don't know you very well
20:36.06tristanbobatoponce: just venting
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20:36.27atoponcewell, of course evolution sux
20:36.37atoponceanything that is trying to mimic windows is going to suck
20:36.48tristanbobI need an groupware client that works with groupwise
20:36.52tristanbob(good luck!)
20:36.52atoponcewhat version are you running? running on the latest gutsy beta?
20:36.59tristanbobatoponce: 7.04
20:37.04tristanbobhoping gutsy improves evo
20:37.39atoponcehas it crashed i dozen times every day for the past 6 months?
20:37.48atoponceif not, what changed? what's causing the crashes?
20:37.58atoponces/ i / a /
20:38.02tristanbobsome days are better, seem like it is getting worse
20:38.11tristanbobsome emails always crash it
20:38.22atoponceso something on your system is probably causing it
20:38.31tristanbobwhen I come in the morning it has crashed
20:38.38tristanbobeveryday
20:39.16tapH20guru_tristanbob - connecting to an exchange server?
20:39.26tristanbobnovell groupwise
20:39.43tapH20guru_lol
20:39.43atoponcetristanbob: do you need to connect to groupwise? can you forward your groupwise mail to gmail, or something else?
20:39.43tristanbobisn't novell a large contributor to evolution?
20:39.49tapH20guru_uhh yeah
20:39.53tapH20guru_they own it
20:40.05tapH20guru_novel owns ximian
20:40.07tristanbobatoponce: email is not the problem - company calendars and addressbooks
20:40.08atoponcegroupwise is just painful
20:40.30atoponceand there isn't a web interface for it?
20:40.35Zelutgo use SUSE. I'm sure Novell makes it work with groupwise better
20:40.36atoponcefor the calendars?
20:41.16atoponcei'm just having a hard time buying that evolution is *that* bad. something else is happening that is causing the crashing
20:41.36atoponcewhether it's locally on your system, or on the wire, or...
20:42.06atoponcetristanbob: is feisty installed locally, or on a vm?
20:42.16tristanboblocally
20:42.23atoponcelaptop or deskotp?
20:42.46tristanbobdesktop
20:43.01atoponcehow long has it been installed?
20:44.02tristanbobI'm running vmware server, firefox, evolution, gaim, ekiga, xchat, firestarter, ftp, tftp, ssh
20:44.13tristanbobI had this running 6.10
20:44.28atoponcehave you checked launchpad for bugs on it?
20:44.31tristanbobthen upgraded to 7.04
20:44.39tristanbobatoponce: evolution? nope
20:44.55atoponcethere might be something listed there, or in the forums, about your issue
20:45.00atoponcei'd be surprised if there isn't
20:46.28maquis!geek
20:47.52atoponcewhat? no UtahBot?
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20:49.42atoponcethere he his
20:50.08atoponcemaquis: geek is no longer part of this bot though
20:50.18atoponcehe changed from eggdrop to supybot
20:50.42maquisatoponce: does he have anything else cool?
20:50.59atoponcenot yet. he's in "transition" :)
20:51.13CosmicPizzahello
20:51.29maquisyou mean you're sticking a bot on here with nothing cool?
20:51.34maquisCosmicPizza: hello
20:51.36maquisnice nick
20:51.45maquissounds tasty
20:51.46CosmicPizzawhat time is it in utah ?
20:51.49CosmicPizzathx
20:51.55maquiseither 1 or 3
20:51.58maquisi'm thinking 3
20:52.02CosmicPizzaam or pm ?
20:52.02maquispm
20:52.08CosmicPizzaok
20:52.17maquisi doubt it'd be as active as it is if it was am
20:52.34maquiswe're all a bunch of slackers, so we're online at work :P
20:52.41maquisCosmicPizza: where are you?
20:52.48maquisand what time is it there?
20:52.52atoponcemaquis: right now, UtahBot does a few things
20:52.59maquisatoponce: like?
20:53.00atoponcemainly factoids
20:53.03atoponce!gpg
20:53.05UtahBotatoponce: Error: "gpg" is not a valid command.
20:53.08atoponce!gnupg
20:53.09UtahBotatoponce: Error: "gnupg" is not a valid command.
20:53.09CosmicPizzai live in france that' s why i asked pm or am :)
20:53.11atoponcehmmm
20:53.17maquisUtahBot: you mean it can give errors :)
20:53.21maquisCosmicPizza: ah
20:53.23atoponceheh
20:53.34maquisso, it's like early morning-ish for france?
20:53.35maquisactually
20:53.35maquisno
20:53.40atoponcemaquis: i'm working on him. now at GL, i may have more time
20:53.44maquisit's more like almost 10pm, right?
20:53.44Zelut!tripware maquis
20:53.46UtahBotZelut: Error: "tripware" is not a valid command.
20:53.51maquisCosmicPizza: 10pm?
20:53.55Zelut!timebomb maquis
20:53.56UtahBotZelut: Error: "timebomb" is not a valid command.
20:53.57CosmicPizzano it' s 11 pm in france
20:53.59Zelut...b0rken
20:54.07maquis!cut gray!
20:54.08UtahBotmaquis: Error: "cut" is not a valid command.
20:54.14maquis:(
20:54.27atoponcei'll make him fun maquis- just for you
20:54.29atoponce:)
20:54.33maquisatoponce: cool
20:54.40maquisbecause i'm in a mood for something fun...
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20:55.07maquisCosmicPizza: ah... so you're off by 2 hours from my EU clock
20:55.13CosmicPizzawhere do you live in utah ? salt lake city ?
20:55.28maquisused to live in provo, utah, though
20:55.39CosmicPizzaok
20:56.38CosmicPizzayour EU clock should be based on a country like pologne i think maquis
20:56.57maquisCosmicPizza: it's based on the time that the EU servers for work use :)
20:57.23CosmicPizzayou' re right
20:57.44CosmicPizzai didn' t think about that
20:58.12maquis:)
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21:40.40|phoenyx|didn't we kill that onjoin?
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23:01.08Heartsbane~onjoin -tristanbob
23:01.09jbotHeartsbane: ok
23:01.31Heartsbanethere
23:09.47tapH20guru_tristanbob: nice article on asterisk
23:35.58tapH20guru_Zelut: is getting Gutsy on a MacBook Pro a pain?
23:39.31sontekapple is the devil.
23:40.56Hearts|laptopsontek: I thought you were the devil?
23:41.13tapH20guru_lol
23:46.38sontekHearts|laptop: nope, as many times as I get ~language'd in this chan, I'll probably meet him someday ;)
23:46.52sontekdamn me and my sinful ways
23:52.02Heartsbane~language sontek
23:52.03jbotACTION grabs sontek by the ear and washes sontek's mouth out with soap
23:52.10Heartsbane:)
23:57.49Heartsbanesontek: if you do go to hell, and Steve Jobs is there. Fight him!!!

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