IRC log for #ubuntu-utah on 20070915

00:08.43HeartsbaneWhat?
00:18.49SorenStoutnerHearts|laptop: ping
00:33.30Claud-SLCsoren: did that other Dell CD werk?
00:49.25Claud-SLCsoren: just got your vmail
00:49.40Claud-SLCsorry that your day was spent there! :(
00:58.17HeartsbaneSorenStoutner: you around?
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03:02.40Yorokobiaa/c
03:02.43Yorokobibah
03:03.05Hearts|laptopbb/d
03:05.16Zelutevening
03:07.56herlohola Zelut
03:09.03Zelutyes
03:09.04Zelutfinally
03:09.19Zelutherlo: and UDS got approved.. not sure why I'm so surprised :)
03:09.33Hearts|laptopUDS?
03:10.44herloZelut: they told me that I can go in two weeks to do my presentation at SU3G too.  Maybe they are starting to see the light?
03:10.51Hearts|laptop!learn meeting as Ubuntu Utah meetings and notes are maintained on the following calendar http://tinyurl.com/2xwv2j
03:10.51UtahBotHearts|laptop: The operation succeeded.
03:10.57Hearts|laptop!meeting
03:10.58UtahBotHearts|laptop: "meeting" is Ubuntu Utah meetings and notes are maintained on the following calendar http://tinyurl.com/2xwv2j
03:11.02herloHearts|laptop: ubuntu developer summit
03:11.16Hearts|laptopCool... Oregon again?
03:11.43Hearts|laptopDidn't they do something similar in Spain? for developers
03:12.19ZelutHearts|laptop: canonical emailed me and said they would like me to join them at the next developer summit in boston
03:12.38ZelutHearts|laptop: so I had to throw it by the bosses,
03:13.02Hearts|laptopCanonical helping you with airfare?
03:13.12ZelutHearts|laptop: they did have a UDS in spain, they had one at Google as well.. this next one will be in Boston.
03:13.17ZelutHearts|laptop: all paid, yes.
03:13.36Hearts|laptopWow :) Lucky you
03:14.16ZelutHearts|laptop: i thought it was pretty cool.. except the timing is weird with it happening at the same time I left the us teams project.
03:14.58Hearts|laptopyou left the US Team project?
03:15.10Zeluthopefully I can outline what we did right and wrong for use in other parts of the world.
03:15.42ZelutHearts|laptop: I did. Not really in the mood to talk about it but the drama was too much for me and I've stepped away from the project
03:16.12Hearts|laptopZelut: don't tell me they are going with something regional?
03:17.00ZelutHearts|laptop: no, there are a few that are spreading FUD about needing non-profit status and tax/liability protections to organize a team.
03:17.26Zelut..except every currently approved team has needed none of that, some of the new faces keep pushing it and its tearing apart the project.
03:17.48Hearts|laptopWere those some of the people making comments on your blog
03:18.21ZelutHearts|laptop: yeah. i thought my 'plan of action' post was a peaceful solution but it resulted in personal attacks.
03:18.29Hearts|laptopMeh ... well ... Good luck in Boston
03:18.33Hearts|laptop:)
03:18.44ZelutHearts|laptop: at that point I pretty much gave up.  I put in all this time to help others grow teams and if they don't want my help, forget 'em
03:22.08Zelutanyway.. I'm taking a break from saving the country
03:22.22Zelutso I'm going to go get some dinner and watch a movie.
03:22.45Hearts|laptopembrace Anarchy
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03:32.59Yorokobi~w00t
03:33.00jbotw00t!!!
03:34.20Yorokobi>300 connection attempts to port 6881, interesting DoS attack port.
03:41.30Hearts|laptopIsn't the default port for bitt.torrent?
03:41.48Yorokobihmmm, might be
03:43.02Hearts|laptopMight just be port scans looking for DHT to link up to a tracker
03:43.43Hearts|laptopYorokobi: what firewall you using, write something yourself in IPTables?
03:44.29Yorokobino, I let shorewall do the dirty work
03:44.36Yorokobiw/iptables
03:45.27Hearts|laptopYorokobi: how hard is that to configure ... I heard it uses a fancy web page interface like IPCop?
03:45.49YorokobiDoes it? I have never heard/seen/used it, if so.
03:46.15YorokobiIt is all text-based afaik
03:47.40Hearts|laptopHow does it start.. daemon, inetd.conf...
03:48.41Hearts|laptopHmmm... maybe a conversation for a later date I have been awake since 4AM
03:48.47Yorokobigo to bed
03:49.04Hearts|laptopya ttyl
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03:55.08Gateanyone know how to recover a file that was *accidentaly* rm ed before it's overwritten?
04:07.42mheathGate: Unfortunately, I don't know of anyway
04:08.04GateDAMN!
04:08.07Gate:) thanks
04:08.16mheathHeh
04:08.21mheathAlong those lines:
04:08.37mheathAre there any filesystems for LInux that support revision control?
04:08.49mheathI know that with the next version of Mac OS X, they're advertising a filesystem like that
04:08.58mheathYou can 'search through time' for files they say
04:22.12Gatehahaha. I love linux
04:22.33Gategot half my file back by doing "sudo cat /dev/mem | strings | grep foldl"
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04:47.17SorenStoutnerHeartsbane: I'm around.
04:56.03Gatemheath: I know ZFS has built in versioning
05:10.35Gatemheath: now that I have time to breath, I considered responding on your blog, there are 4 kernels out there in good, current working order that I know of. BSD/Darwin, Linux, NT, Solaris
05:11.13GateIIRC, Linux is the only one under GPL
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08:22.18SorenStoutner!meeting
08:22.21UtahBotSorenStoutner: "meeting" is Ubuntu Utah meetings and notes are maintained on the following calendar http://tinyurl.com/2xwv2j
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14:33.13Claud-SLCi AM using linux... so just shaddup! :)
14:35.13Yorokobihaa-haa
14:35.31atoponceok. programming question
14:35.41atoponcewell, algorithm question actually
14:36.11Claud-SLCtoo early for alorithms
14:36.17Claud-SLCtoo early for algorithms
14:36.26Claud-SLCtoo early to type too
14:37.02atoponcei need to find the largest palindrome from multiplying two 3-digit numbers. the problem i'm facing is an effecient means of multiplying
14:37.31atoponceobviously, i should start with 999 * 999 and work down (999*998, 999*997, 999*996.... etc)
14:38.05atoponceif nothing between 999*100, then i start over at 998*998 as 998*999 has already been tested
14:38.24atoponcethat will divide my iterations in half, but that's still a lot of iterations
14:38.44YorokobiLooks like a job for nested for loops
14:39.11atoponcebut isn't my order of operation too large? can't i make it more effecient?
14:39.36Claud-SLCwhat assunptions can you make to begin with?
14:40.11Claud-SLCis this for a class or a project?
14:40.13atoponcewell, i'm confident that i'll find it in the 900's, so it makes sense to start at 999 and count down, versus 100 and count up
14:40.19atoponceprojecteuler.net
14:40.22atoponceproblem #4
14:40.34atoponcei'm not in school. :)
14:40.54atoponceand, as soon as i find it, i can break out, without testing the rest
14:41.35atoponcehowever, i think i should treat the algorithm the same, as if i wanted every plaindrome, versus just the largest
14:42.12Claud-SLCwell... not really
14:42.32atoponcewhy?
14:42.33Claud-SLCyou need to start like u did and as soon as you find one. break out cuase yer done
14:42.49Claud-SLCno need to go further
14:43.06atoponcetrue. but i want the fewest number of iterations to find it
14:43.31Claud-SLCdo u know the answer already per chance?
14:43.33atoponcei guess it's only n*m, isn't it?
14:43.37atoponceno. i don't
14:43.39Claud-SLCyup
14:43.45Claud-SLClet see what it is
14:43.48atoponcewell, n*m isn't too bad
14:43.59atoponcei would think it could get better, though
14:44.04atoponcemaybe not
14:44.50atoponcemy max number of iterations should only be 499001
14:46.34Claud-SLCwell... the largest number is:998001
14:46.45Claud-SLCbut....
15:26.47atoponcei think i found it
15:27.31atoponcenope. bummer
15:28.58mheathGood morning, atoponce, Claud-SLC
15:32.27atoponcemheath: good morning
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15:57.30Zelutmorning
15:58.24atoponceZelut: so, you want to learn python, eh? http://www.projecteuler.net
16:01.26atoponceit's teaching me a *ton*
16:01.31Zelutcool
16:02.50atoponcetheres also http://diveintopython.org (sudo aptitude install diveintopython) and http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
16:29.02mheathI've considered learning Python. I donw know, though.
16:29.17mheathatoponce: I take it you like the language, then?
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19:20.53atoponcemheath: yeah. it's awesome
19:22.22Heartsbanethanx for the link... I didn't attend the meeting on thursday, even though cyclone told me I should
19:22.37Heartsbane!meeting
19:22.39UtahBotHeartsbane: "meeting" is Ubuntu Utah meetings and notes are maintained on the following calendar http://tinyurl.com/2xwv2j
19:33.45HeartsbaneZelut: ping
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20:00.28ZelutHeartsbane: pong
20:05.04*** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o Zelut] by ChanServ
20:05.32*** topic/#ubuntu-utah by Zelut -> | Ubuntu Utah Team | http://utah.ubuntu-us.org | Ubuntu Team BBQ 6:00pm on the 22nd. |
20:06.31Zelutbbiab
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20:29.09Gatehaha, the bots like you Hearts|laptop
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20:38.20Heartsbaneya well, they are not real people so they don't know any better
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22:06.49sonteksynic: ping
22:30.36sonteksynic: nvm, figured it out =)
22:44.50SorenStoutner!meeting
22:44.51UtahBotSorenStoutner: "meeting" is Ubuntu Utah meetings and notes are maintained on the following calendar http://tinyurl.com/2xwv2j
22:46.34SorenStoutnerZelut: Where is the BBQ going to be held?
23:20.53atoponceit's in the email, if you're on the list
23:21.02atoponcehttp://tinyurl.com/3xb7eb
23:21.56mheathatoponce: Where can you sign up for the list at?
23:22.28atoponcemheath: we were supposed to be doing a signup list on the wiki
23:22.33atoponcenot sure what happened to that
23:22.40atoponceand, it's been rescheduled for the 22nd
23:23.13mheathOf september?
23:24.18atoponceyeah
23:24.22atoponcea week from today
23:24.56mheathCool...
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