| 00:00.05 | steve8track | (other than to try it out) |
| 00:00.21 | Hearts|laptop | steve8track: look for something called eggdrop |
| 00:01.17 | steve8track | ok, I found a tutorial, and I'll look for eggdrop next |
| 00:01.20 | steve8track | thanks |
| 00:01.29 | Hearts|laptop | np |
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| 00:34.02 | Zelut | I don't know if we need any more bots, unless you can really show how it'd be an improvement on what we have. |
| 00:34.46 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: you missed him... soon he will bring a army of bots |
| 00:36.27 | Zelut | I think jbot and UtahBot are quite enough personally |
| 00:37.01 | Hearts|laptop | I agree we should have jbot and UtahBot merge |
| 00:37.17 | Hearts|laptop | 1 bot for all purposes |
| 00:37.24 | Zelut | does UtahBot even do anything anymore atoponce ? |
| 00:37.25 | peno | 1 bot to rule them all |
| 00:37.40 | Hearts|laptop | !Zelut |
| 00:38.24 | Hearts|laptop | !Heartsbane |
| 00:38.25 | UtahBot | Hearts|laptop: Error: "Heartsbane" is not a valid command. |
| 00:38.51 | Hearts|laptop | !learn Heartsbane is the Valedictorian of Summer School |
| 00:38.51 | UtahBot | Hearts|laptop: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 00:39.18 | Hearts|laptop | !learn Heartsbane as The Valedictorian of Summer School |
| 00:39.19 | UtahBot | Hearts|laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:39.23 | Hearts|laptop | !heartsbane |
| 00:39.25 | UtahBot | Hearts|laptop: "heartsbane" is The Valedictorian of Summer School |
| 00:39.39 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: seems to work just fine |
| 00:43.38 | Hearts|laptop | !learn Claudius as a whiner and a menace. |
| 00:43.39 | UtahBot | Hearts|laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:43.47 | peno | rofl |
| 00:43.51 | Gate | !Claudius |
| 00:43.52 | UtahBot | Gate: "Claudius" is a whiner and a menace. |
| 00:44.02 | Gate | ok. who? |
| 00:44.06 | Hearts|laptop | ~onjoin claudius !Claudius |
| 00:44.06 | jbot | ok, Hearts|laptop |
| 00:44.14 | peno | menace to society maybe. |
| 00:44.24 | Hearts|laptop | NOW That is cooperation, 2 bots working together |
| 00:46.29 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: Utahbot could be much better if Introplay didn't own atoponce's soul |
| 00:46.56 | Hearts|laptop | That is not a complaint, it just seems to be heading in the right direction |
| 00:55.09 | Zelut | Hearts|laptop: agreed |
| 01:14.53 | Zelut | blist |
| 01:14.56 | Zelut | oops |
| 01:15.15 | Hearts|laptop | hehe |
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| 02:56.25 | UtahBot | jbot: "Claudius" is a whiner and a menace. |
| 02:56.25 | jbot | I think you lost me on that one, UtahBot |
| 02:56.34 | Claudius | tsk tsk tsk |
| 02:56.47 | Claudius | heartsbane.... u better FIX that bot..... |
| 02:57.05 | Claudius | that's WEENER and menace |
| 02:58.11 | peno | :) |
| 02:59.11 | peno | Claudius: you are a menace though. |
| 03:09.10 | Yorokobi | I asked about this earlier today, and for the sake of due diligence, I ask again: Is anyone from the SLC area (or north thereof) carpooling or wish to carpool to UTOSC? |
| 03:12.42 | Hearts|laptop | Peno and I are going in my car... do you need a ride? |
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| 03:13.26 | Hearts|laptop | or are you looking to help someone one out? |
| 03:13.50 | Hearts|laptop | wow one to many ones |
| 03:22.14 | Yorokobi | Hearts|laptop, either or. I can drive or be driven |
| 03:23.18 | Hearts|laptop | Well if no one takes you up on the ride offer and you don't want to spend the gas as a single, let me know if you need a ride |
| 03:23.47 | Yorokobi | Hearts|laptop, will do. |
| 03:29.36 | Hearts|laptop | Yorokobi: you are just going to have to put up with peno |
| 03:29.59 | Yorokobi | If he's only half as bad as you are, I'll be okay :) |
| 03:30.26 | Yorokobi | If he's twice as bad then I'll turn up the volume on my iPod |
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| 03:30.41 | peno | Yorokobi: just bring your gas mask, hearts shouldn't be in confined quarters. |
| 03:31.01 | Hearts|laptop | I think I need to re-alias that key |
| 03:31.10 | Hearts|laptop | or unalias |
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| 03:31.26 | peno | alt-f4 ftw |
| 03:31.28 | thenetduck | wow |
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| 03:35.33 | Claudius | soren: you around? |
| 03:35.42 | Zelut | thenetduck: holy crap. you're alive |
| 03:36.07 | Zelut | bbiab |
| 03:36.58 | Claudius | gas mask? |
| 03:37.09 | Claudius | I'd recommend passing on the ride period |
| 03:37.18 | Claudius | I'll be heading down Friday and Satuday |
| 03:37.26 | Claudius | Soren and I will be carpooling |
| 03:37.40 | Claudius | where are you at Yorokobi? |
| 03:38.30 | Yorokobi | Claudius, South SL, not far from the State St. exit on I-80 |
| 03:39.12 | Claudius | easy for me to pick you up |
| 03:39.27 | Claudius | 13th S and 11th W here |
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| 03:39.42 | Hearts|laptop | you know Claudius you are a terrific friend, really |
| 03:39.59 | Claudius | Yorokobi: any annoying habits? |
| 03:40.31 | Yorokobi | Claudius, do long walks on the beach count? :D |
| 03:40.48 | Claudius | only if you plan on doing it while in the car |
| 03:41.17 | Yorokobi | Claudius, in that case, none that I can think of. But I don't live with myself so I'm not the best judge. |
| 03:41.20 | Claudius | hearts... if I didn't give you grief/crap/etc... everyone else would and I would miss out |
| 03:41.44 | Claudius | Yorokobi: do you have references? :) |
| 03:42.32 | Yorokobi | My wife would be the best choice in that regard. She tolerates me pretty well, I think I am safe for ~1 hour in a car. |
| 03:42.33 | Claudius | you should see the tree that crushed a car two houses down from my house |
| 03:42.54 | Claudius | put her on.... lets interview her! :) |
| 03:43.50 | Yorokobi | nah, she likes to embellish and make stuff up. |
| 03:44.25 | Claudius | hehe..... |
| 03:44.34 | Claudius | dats what I'm afeared of.... |
| 03:45.38 | thenetduck | Zelut ya .. im wish I was on a mission ... |
| 03:46.13 | Claudius | mission of love? |
| 03:46.20 | Claudius | mission of peace? |
| 03:46.33 | Claudius | mission of misionary werk? |
| 03:46.56 | Claudius | . *missionary |
| 03:47.47 | Claudius | yorokobi: pm me your email |
| 03:52.35 | thenetduck | Claudius say what? |
| 03:53.45 | Claudius | just naming all the different kinds of missions you could go on... :o |
| 03:55.30 | Yorokobi | Claudius, did you get my pm's? |
| 03:56.12 | Claudius | yessir... |
| 03:56.14 | Claudius | email sent |
| 04:02.42 | thenetduck | im going on a secret mission |
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| 04:36.57 | Hearts|laptop | G'night everyone |
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| 06:52.25 | detox__ | Hello? |
| 12:51.42 | Zelut | morning |
| 12:53.50 | Yorokobi | Aye, it is. An early one at that. |
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| 13:16.01 | Kemotaha | Morning all |
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| 14:33.57 | tristanbob | congrats to David Overcash and Jim Hutchinson, new Ubuntu members from Colorado! Hooooray!!! |
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| 17:07.50 | findlay-w | what do you get if you're an ubuntu member? |
| 17:08.34 | Zelut | 70 virgins in the afterlife |
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| 17:11.05 | Zelut | findlay-w: @ubuntu.com email address, business cards, community respect and adoration.. |
| 17:12.15 | findlay-w | and an armband? |
| 17:20.28 | synic | Zelut: The topic has ordered me to ask you about discount registration. |
| 17:25.54 | Zelut | synic: are you not already registered? |
| 17:26.05 | synic | not that I know of |
| 17:26.39 | Zelut | synic: yeah, I can generate a code for you. kind of last minute :) |
| 17:26.47 | Gate | I want to make T-Shirt that says Penguinista. Simply because people are tossing it around in Linux V MS flame wars. |
| 17:26.59 | synic | Zelut: it is? I've been out of the loop. |
| 17:27.08 | Gate | synic: it starts tomorrow. |
| 17:27.21 | synic | well |
| 17:27.42 | Gate | :) <-- is itching to get up there already |
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| 17:29.44 | Zelut | synic: let me know if you or your crew want codes and I'll do it, its just really last minute.. but its fine. |
| 17:29.53 | Zelut | synic: as long as you guys can still make it I think we still have some open slots. |
| 17:30.03 | synic | Zelut: k, let me ask. When can I let you know? |
| 17:30.33 | synic | they're all out and about. I'll have to call them and etc. |
| 17:30.48 | Zelut | synic: as soon as you can |
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| 17:42.04 | findlay-w | I want an ubuntu armband |
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| 17:46.12 | synic | Zelut: ok, three of us are in. |
| 17:48.55 | synic | make that four |
| 17:50.39 | Zelut | synic: do I know any of the other three? |
| 17:50.53 | synic | nearn, fizz |
| 17:50.59 | synic | there's only one more, I don't know if you know him. |
| 17:51.01 | fizz | yo |
| 17:53.44 | atoponce | when is the end-of-life support for breezy? |
| 17:55.56 | Zelut | atoponce: isn't it past? |
| 17:56.08 | atoponce | Zelut: i dunno. that's why i'm asking |
| 17:56.16 | Zelut | atoponce: april 13, 2007 |
| 17:56.19 | atoponce | doesn't it have 18mo desktop / 3yr server? |
| 17:56.28 | atoponce | Zelut: where'd you get that info? |
| 17:56.54 | Zelut | atoponce: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu-5.10-end-of-life |
| 17:57.50 | atoponce | Zelut: how long does dapper have until end-of-life? for the server? |
| 17:57.54 | atoponce | 5yr or 3yr? |
| 17:58.10 | Zelut | atoponce: 5yr for server. 2011 |
| 17:58.47 | atoponce | Zelut: thx |
| 17:59.20 | Zelut | atoponce: shows the lifespan here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download |
| 17:59.51 | atoponce | cool |
| 18:00.10 | atoponce | we're upgrading a server from breezy due to end-of-life to dapper i think |
| 18:01.27 | Zelut | i think that is a good idea |
| 18:13.39 | mheath | atoponce: you still have Breezy on something? |
| 18:13.50 | mheath | That would feel so horribly antiquated to me :P |
| 18:13.57 | atoponce | mheath: i don,t but a friend does |
| 18:14.01 | atoponce | we're upgrading as i type |
| 18:15.20 | mheath | atoponce: You're familiar enough with Ubuntu that I probably don't need to tell you this, but just incase it might help: things go a LOT smoother if you go through all the versions inbetween the current and the one you're upgrading to |
| 18:15.32 | mheath | That is, don't jump multiple versions at a time on an upgrade |
| 18:15.39 | atoponce | yeah. well aware of that. :) |
| 18:15.48 | mheath | They're supposedly getting better support for things like that NOW, but back int he breezy days that was horrible |
| 18:17.46 | mheath | atoponce: are the differences that notable for servers? |
| 18:18.02 | mheath | I know that Ubuntu has made HUGE leaps and bounds for desktop use between Breezy and now |
| 18:18.58 | atoponce | it's for a server, and the fact that there are no more security and bug updates are enough to get us upgrading |
| 18:19.46 | mheath | Oh, yeah, Breezy got EOL'd earlier this year |
| 18:20.54 | mheath | http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/05/1328225&from=rss |
| 18:21.10 | mheath | WOW. AIGLX support for my ATI stuff! |
| 18:26.51 | tristanbob | mheath: they will only support LTS to LTS upgrades, other than incrementals |
| 18:27.55 | mheath | tristanbob: I know, but I'm not talking about official support, just what works and what doesn't work |
| 18:28.08 | mheath | Since breezy, Ubuntu has moved towards a trend of lots more generic meta packages. |
| 18:29.03 | mheath | ubuntu-desktop is the main meta package for a ubuntu system now, and I don't think it was in breezy. |
| 18:29.39 | tristanbob | mheath: you could be right |
| 18:30.15 | mheath | But assuming your source system has a ubuntu-desktop and your destination system has a ubuntu-desktop, upgrades should theoretically work fine |
| 18:30.41 | mheath | Only problem you'd enounter would be obsolete leftovers |
| 18:31.02 | mheath | Notice I stck the word "theoretically" in there, though :P |
| 18:53.14 | atoponce | mheath: where are you at now? in ogden? |
| 18:53.28 | atoponce | if so, is it raining? it's pouring downtown slc right now |
| 18:55.24 | |phoenyx| | atoponce: are you in downtown slc? |
| 18:55.53 | atoponce | |phoenyx|: yeah. at the library, because our office power is out |
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| 19:05.55 | Heartsbane | its raining downtown? |
| 19:07.06 | peno | it was raining here about 10 minutes ago |
| 19:07.08 | redwalk | This may be the wrong place to ask this, and if it is let me know, I'm rather new to IRC. I have 4 ubuntu fiesty servers, I'm using them as an email gateway. I use postfix, amavis-new, spamassassin, and clamav. The servers work well except when it comes to relaying to the smptp server behind them. Here is a copy of main.cf: http://pastebin.com/d2102ba0e and an example of my mail.log output:http://pastebin.com/d63136eff |
| 19:14.33 | redwalk | I work for an ISP here in Salt Lake and I'm trying to get our spam problems brought down. |
| 19:16.08 | Zelut | what ISP? |
| 19:16.16 | Heartsbane | networld |
| 19:16.18 | redwalk | networld.com |
| 19:16.38 | redwalk | we're in Holaday |
| 19:18.28 | Zelut | and you've got the relay_host auth information in the sasl_passwd? |
| 19:19.26 | redwalk | yeah, the interesting thing is we had it working on Friday |
| 19:19.52 | Zelut | so what changed? |
| 19:20.20 | redwalk | it's amost like the mail just kind of loops between the spam filter and postfix |
| 19:20.40 | redwalk | just a lot of mail build up from what I can tell |
| 19:20.56 | Yorokobi | Zelut, what are the chances of getting a copy (sans any personal info) of your .muttrc ? |
| 19:21.19 | redwalk | I tried changing the relaying to another server, but it only worked for a few minutes |
| 19:25.00 | Zelut | Yorokobi: I have been thinking about posting it but its pretty customized |
| 19:25.50 | Zelut | redwalk: only worked for a few minutes? any usable log output? |
| 19:26.32 | mheath | atoponce: At home, in the Terrace. No, hasn't been raining at all so far today |
| 19:26.42 | mheath | just windy, and looking rather threatening. :P |
| 19:27.28 | mheath | Hey, along those configuration lines....Anyone have any good IRSSI themes and/or configuration files they'd be willing to share? |
| 19:27.50 | Yorokobi | Rain + dime-sized hail up on the east bench now |
| 19:30.14 | Zelut | Yorokobi: I have a copy I can send you. remind me your email. |
| 19:33.00 | Zelut | Yorokobi: sent. 3 files attached |
| 19:33.14 | Yorokobi | Zelut, gracias |
| 19:33.42 | Zelut | Yorokobi: I put my config it .mutt/ with .muttrc being a symlink to .mutt/.muttrc |
| 19:35.09 | Zelut | Yorokobi: you might want my .mutt_gpg as well, I didn't send that one.. but the defaults might work |
| 19:35.52 | Yorokobi | okay, thanks |
| 19:36.52 | atoponce | mheath: i recommend the madcow theme with irssi |
| 19:37.21 | atoponce | as far as the config file, i recommend modifying it through irssi itself |
| 19:37.44 | atoponce | don't edit the config by hand unless you're willing to spend some late nights... :) |
| 19:41.45 | Heartsbane | editing yourself you can do see what it is doing but the pitfall is when you /save inside irssi, it writes a default config, not any additional changes. |
| 19:42.15 | Yorokobi | unless you /reload first |
| 19:43.10 | Heartsbane | yes I know but where were you... when I needed to avoid that pitfall :) |
| 19:49.21 | Zelut | synic: ping |
| 19:49.27 | synic | yo |
| 20:01.23 | redwalk | Had a phone call, it keeps saying it's OK, deffered |
| 20:01.54 | Zelut | its getting stuck in the queue? |
| 20:02.05 | Zelut | postqueue -f do anything? |
| 20:03.04 | redwalk | all of the mail seems to be in /var/spool/postfix |
| 20:03.36 | redwalk | I'll try one sec |
| 20:04.56 | redwalk | soes that flush the queue, no output |
| 20:05.02 | synic | wow... users groups get a bit of a discount. |
| 20:05.04 | synic | that's awesome. |
| 20:05.13 | synic | by "a bit", I mean "lots" |
| 20:06.19 | synic | haha. Oh well. |
| 20:08.41 | redwalk | this is what I get in the logs: |
| 20:08.42 | redwalk | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, conn_use=9, delay=45465, delays=36629/8820/0/16, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=17237-01-9, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 3CFBE1BD96F) |
| 20:10.16 | Zelut | hmm |
| 20:10.28 | redwalk | I tried postqueue -f same results, I didn't know about that command I've just been using /etc/init.d/postfix flush |
| 20:13.01 | redwalk | I gues that would be before it goes thorough amavis, sorry this shloud be after: relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=37004, delays=27955/9036/0.28/13, dsn=2.7.1, status=sent (254 2.7.1 Ok, discarded, id=17360-01 - SPAM) |
| 20:13.33 | thaddeusq | redwalk: And the problem is? |
| 20:14.02 | redwalk | it won't relay to our other smtp server |
| 20:14.19 | thaddeusq | redwalk: That's because amavis is discarding it as spam. |
| 20:14.42 | Yorokobi | redwalk, is amavis answering port 10024 and sending the message back to postfix on 10025 (standard config IIRC)? |
| 20:14.44 | redwalk | I have the points set for 7.0 |
| 20:14.45 | Zelut | that's what it looks like to me |
| 20:14.49 | redwalk | yes |
| 20:15.08 | redwalk | is there another control for the spam settings |
| 20:15.13 | thaddeusq | Notice "discarded, id=17360-01 - SPAM" that means that amavis is dumping it. |
| 20:15.14 | Yorokobi | and postfix answers port 10025? |
| 20:15.29 | redwalk | yes it does |
| 20:16.10 | redwalk | very, very true |
| 20:16.21 | thaddeusq | redwalk: If amavis dumps it, it's not going to get relayed to the other smtp server. |
| 20:16.39 | redwalk | How can I stop it from dumping it |
| 20:16.57 | Yorokobi | should amavis be configured to send it to the next host in the list rather than back to localhost? |
| 20:17.33 | redwalk | As far as I can tell it was sopposed to put it back through postfix |
| 20:17.47 | thaddeusq | redwalk: Do you want amavis to dump it ever? Or no matter what the score is, send it to the smtp server? |
| 20:17.55 | redwalk | i figured it would see it as clean this time and then deliver |
| 20:18.16 | redwalk | I would like it to dump anything above 7.0 |
| 20:18.36 | redwalk | and send the rest on |
| 20:18.55 | thaddeusq | redwalk: What does your amavis config file look like? |
| 20:19.04 | redwalk | let me grab it |
| 20:20.36 | thaddeusq | Also amavis should send to your maillog what it scored on. |
| 20:20.41 | redwalk | here is the content filtering section Ihave changed from default: http://pastebin.com/d75913e49 |
| 20:21.55 | redwalk | Sep 5 14:21:16 spam2 amavis[17478]: (17478-01-23) Blocked SPAM, [66.201.100.22] [66.201.100.22] <email@domain.com> -> <rmoss@networld.com>, quarantine: spam-h0Lrnv-oxvL0.gz, Message-ID: <20060372209632.CBC5172B238810E3@consectary.net>, mail_id: h0Lrnv-oxvL0, Hits: 15.735, 141 ms |
| 20:22.12 | thaddeusq | So that mail scored 15.735 points. |
| 20:22.13 | redwalk | here is what amavis sends back |
| 20:22.19 | thaddeusq | That's above 7 |
| 20:22.24 | redwalk | right |
| 20:22.33 | redwalk | I have some that is below too |
| 20:22.37 | thaddeusq | And you don't think it should be? |
| 20:22.47 | redwalk | I just copied a random part |
| 20:23.17 | redwalk | even the mail with low hit points is not being delivered |
| 20:23.20 | thaddeusq | Well, copying parts of the log file that are actually relevant would be more helpful than random parts |
| 20:23.34 | redwalk | sorry, one sec |
| 20:28.10 | redwalk | here is one: http://pastebin.com/d37be9c08 |
| 20:36.10 | thaddeusq | Do you see that same message get sent back through amavis? |
| 20:37.01 | thaddeusq | I'd think that you'd want amavis to send it on to the smtp server not back to postfix on localhost. |
| 20:38.33 | tapH20guru | woohoo! http://lwn.net/Articles/248227/ |
| 20:38.45 | tapH20guru | i wonder if Dell helped that out |
| 20:39.51 | Yorokobi | redwalk, does your master.cf have the following : http://pastebin.ca/682888 |
| 20:42.25 | redwalk | yeah I do have that in my master.cf file. |
| 20:42.55 | redwalk | It would make more sence if amavis did that but how do you make it do it. |
| 20:43.20 | Yorokobi | make it do what? |
| 20:44.14 | redwalk | sorry, just relay straight to the other smtp server, |
| 20:44.36 | Yorokobi | The first line for the SMTPD entry: 127.0.0.1:10025 |
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| 20:44.55 | Yorokobi | change it to someotherhost.yourdomain.com:25 |
| 20:45.05 | Yorokobi | or use the IP address |
| 20:45.14 | redwalk | good idea let me try that |
| 20:46.56 | thaddeusq | Yorokobi: I thought it was this line in the amavisd.conf file: $forward_method = 'smtp:127.0.0.1:10025'; # where to forward checked mail |
| 20:47.19 | Yorokobi | could be, it has been a while since I played with postfix+amavis |
| 20:47.48 | redwalk | is that in the amavis' confs of postfix's |
| 20:48.08 | thaddeusq | redwalk: Who are you asking that question to? |
| 20:48.36 | redwalk | either one of you |
| 20:49.00 | Yorokobi | thaddeusq was referring to the amavis.conf file; I was referring to postfix's master.cf |
| 20:49.15 | redwalk | k, I'll try both |
| 20:49.27 | Yorokobi | It might require both be changed |
| 20:49.27 | redwalk | one at a time I mean |
| 20:49.33 | redwalk | k |
| 20:59.37 | redwalk | the log says: Sep 5 14:58:36 spam2 postfix/master[18798]: fatal: bind 209.63.232.103 port 25: Cannot assign requested address |
| 21:00.10 | redwalk | i guess it can only relay local addresses |
| 21:00.34 | redwalk | to loopback I mean |
| 21:01.07 | Yorokobi | changed in master.cf ? |
| 21:01.14 | thaddeusq | I know the amavis setting can be set to another (non local) address. |
| 21:02.21 | redwalk | I changed 127.0.0.1:10024 to 209.63.232.103:25 in master.cf |
| 21:02.33 | redwalk | oh in amavis |
| 21:02.44 | Yorokobi | redwalk, you changed the wrong line in master.cf |
| 21:02.55 | redwalk | I haven't found the setting to change in amavis yet still looking |
| 21:03.07 | redwalk | really? |
| 21:03.30 | redwalk | which one should I have changed |
| 21:03.44 | Yorokobi | If master.cf is where the change goes, it'll be the line for smtpd (127.0.0.1:10025) not the one for amavisd (127.0.0.1:10024) |
| 21:04.10 | redwalk | sorry that is what I meant |
| 21:04.16 | Yorokobi | ah, okay. |
| 21:04.49 | thaddeusq | The line that you want to change in amavis is in the amavisd.conf file |
| 21:05.08 | redwalk | amavis is split in to sifferent conf files so I'm looking for anything relating to relay or port 10025 |
| 21:05.30 | redwalk | right? |
| 21:06.09 | thaddeusq | I'd search for the line that has forward_method in it. |
| 21:06.13 | Yorokobi | thaddeusq, Ubuntu's amavisd install has ~7 files in /etc/amavis/conf.d |
| 21:06.18 | redwalk | k |
| 21:06.36 | thaddeusq | ahhh. Haven't run amavis on ubuntu. |
| 21:07.00 | thaddeusq | grep forward_method /etc/amavis/conf.d/* |
| 21:07.03 | thaddeusq | :) |
| 21:07.12 | redwalk | it shouldn't be much different though it's just split up |
| 21:08.17 | thaddeusq | yeah "grep forward_method /etc/amavis/conf.d/*" should show the file |
| 21:14.49 | redwalk | I can't find any variables that say forward_method, I will try adding it though to a file that looks promising and see what happens, should it be just forward_method=destination ip |
| 21:16.04 | thaddeusq | $forward_method = 'smtp:ipaddress_of_smtp_server:10025'; |
| 21:16.26 | redwalk | can I use port 25 |
| 21:16.35 | thaddeusq | should be able to, yes. |
| 21:16.42 | redwalk | k I'll try that |
| 21:17.08 | thaddeusq | The one that I was familiar with used port 25 not 10025 |
| 21:18.05 | redwalk | the good thing is the formating of it looks like the rest of the file I chose so I think this sould work |
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| 21:21.48 | redwalk | oo I think we fixed it I'm going to send an email to myself |
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| 21:25.52 | redwalk | thank you both I have delivery, I thankyou on behalf of networld and our customers |
| 21:26.28 | thaddeusq | redwalk: glad to help, happy it worked for you. |
| 21:26.43 | redwalk | I have been trying to get this resolved for a week |
| 21:26.57 | Yorokobi | put thaddeusq on the payroll :) |
| 21:27.02 | redwalk | I can now relax go home early today and check me email. |
| 21:27.12 | redwalk | both of you |
| 21:27.39 | redwalk | I will be here a lot more often |
| 21:28.41 | Yorokobi | redwalk, bring drinks then :) |
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| 21:30.09 | redwalk | I'll have to do that |
| 21:30.48 | thaddeusq | I like Mountain Dew Code Red |
| 21:31.12 | redwalk | lol, the sun came out too. |
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| 21:31.26 | redwalk | course I was enjoying the rain |
| 21:47.23 | opapo | I want to stay connected to irssi |
| 21:47.36 | opapo | I have it installed on a server that I can get to via ssh |
| 21:48.24 | opapo | how do I use that connection intermittently |
| 21:49.16 | thaddeusq | opapo: http://carina.org.uk/screenirssi.shtml |
| 21:49.37 | Heartsbane | redwalk: you should atleast buy thaddeusq lunch |
| 21:50.17 | Heartsbane | just a suggestion |
| 21:52.12 | opapo | thanks thaddeusq reading it now |
| 21:52.29 | Heartsbane | opapo: if I understand your question, you could run irssi inside a screen, and connect to it when you have a free second and open/close the screen when you choose |
| 21:53.16 | Heartsbane | opapo: and irssi would be running all the time and you could review conversations that you missed while AFK at your leisure |
| 21:54.32 | Heartsbane | opapo: of course now that I read thaddeusq's link that is exactly what it suggests |
| 21:54.49 | Heartsbane | Damn wasn't helpful fast enough |
| 21:55.26 | thaddeusq | Heartsbane: I'll get back to work so you can help :) |
| 21:56.58 | opapo | Heartsbane: I appreciate the sentiment. |
| 21:57.42 | opapo | thaddeusq: I had heard of screen and irssi being used together, but I didn't understand how they worked together. |
| 21:58.38 | Heartsbane | opapo: you might want to also read up on screen -S and screen -list if you use it for multiple processes |
| 22:00.12 | opapo | thanks Heartsbane. |
| 22:00.54 | opapo | I am switching over now to my server |
| 22:01.15 | Heartsbane | opapo: also keep in mind ..... nevermind |
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| 22:01.55 | Heartsbane | I was going to remind him about Cntl a-x for when the boss walks by |
| 22:36.56 | mheath | Heartsbane: hah |
| 22:38.51 | Heartsbane | what? |
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| 22:55.05 | mheath | Heartsbane: I don't know, i found your advice to him humerous. |
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| 23:04.43 | Heartsbane | I was serious, I use screen everyday, and I lock it quite frequently |
| 23:06.14 | peno | :p |
| 23:09.17 | mheath | I guess I'm just not used to having the urge, capbility, or desire to be doing things I'd need to hide. |
| 23:10.44 | synic | caring about locking everything can easily be learned by having malicious co-workers. |
| 23:11.50 | mheath | synic: safety is one thing, they were talking about preventing a boss from seeing IRC, though :) |
| 23:12.38 | Heartsbane | mheath: it avoids a lecture about wasting company time |
| 23:12.41 | mheath | I learned that lesson, though. Got banned from a few channels once because my friend saw IRC running, decided to use it like Yahoo chat, and proceeded to ask people in technical chat rooms for their "ASL" and use crude language |
| 23:12.57 | synic | heh, I'm lucky. My boss uses IRC. |
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| 23:15.13 | mheath | Heartsbane: /window 7 |
| 23:15.15 | mheath | erm |
| 23:15.20 | mheath | mistype, sorry :) |
| 23:16.05 | Heartsbane | mheath: k but I think everyone in /window 6 will be wondering where I went |
| 23:16.31 | Heartsbane | :) |
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