| 00:31.34 | herlo | I'm doing this installation via vnc, rather awesome! |
| 00:45.42 | clutchmm | herlo: what is "RHELS"? |
| 00:50.15 | clutchmm | does anyone know anything about "vnc4server"? I installed it on my sp3 but when I tried to connect with my laptop the screen came up but it was completely grey with an "X" for a pointer and 3 options with check boxes in the upper left corner. |
| 00:50.54 | clutchmm | I think that is what allows me to share my clipboard but it doesn't do any good if I can't see the desktop |
| 00:57.55 | herlo | clutchmm: that's RHEL 5 - "Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5" |
| 00:58.10 | clutchmm | oh |
| 00:58.40 | herlo | clutchmm: you need to look on Zelut's blog, he has a good tutorial on vncserver |
| 01:02.14 | herlo | clutchmm: at least I think Zelut does |
| 01:03.20 | clutchmm | herlo: where is Zelut's blog at? |
| 01:04.21 | herlo | ubuntu-tutorials.com |
| 01:10.30 | clutchmm | herlo: I found one on screen. Is that like VNC and I will be able to control my ps3 as if I where sitting at it? |
| 01:11.25 | herlo | no |
| 01:11.39 | herlo | clutchmm: read the ubuntu forums, they have something that'll help you |
| 01:11.46 | clutchmm | ok |
| 01:11.47 | herlo | don't know the url for that though |
| 01:12.25 | clutchmm | I have it, but I usually don't find what I want there since I don't seem to have normal problems :) |
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| 02:20.45 | Zelut | I do not have anything done on VNC.. I should as everyone seems to love it. I don't see why people just don't use ssh or ssh -X |
| 02:22.06 | herlo | Zelut: because vnc can do more than ssh -X can |
| 02:22.25 | herlo | Zelut: so I am setting up synergy on my lappy and my newly install RHEL5 server tonight |
| 02:22.33 | herlo | and I have a simple question for you... |
| 02:23.00 | herlo | which configuration file did you choose to use and why? the one in your home directory, or the global one |
| 02:23.12 | Zelut | for synergy? |
| 02:23.15 | herlo | yeah |
| 02:23.28 | herlo | btw, are you home now? |
| 02:23.35 | Zelut | I've always used the .synergy.conf. |
| 02:23.52 | herlo | in your homedir, okay |
| 02:24.09 | herlo | apparently, there are two you can use. i am reading the /usr/share/doc stuff right now |
| 02:26.28 | herlo | Zelut: I'm following your tutuorial, which doesn't actually say where to put the .synergy.conf (so far anyway) |
| 02:27.11 | Zelut | herlo: doesn't it? I always put it in the home folder but I can update the post.. |
| 02:27.23 | Zelut | herlo: what is the GL jabber chatroom? I want to see if I can get in with bitlbee |
| 02:27.36 | herlo | well, the post just says that its called the .synergy.conf |
| 02:27.43 | herlo | Zelut: I've yet been able to join it... |
| 02:27.49 | herlo | via bitlbee that is |
| 02:28.32 | herlo | if you do it through gaim its in tools -> room list -> get rooms |
| 02:28.46 | herlo | then you choose the server and it'll list the rooms |
| 02:29.55 | herlo | Zelut: also, what about the synergyc command. is that ip the ip address of where synergys is running? |
| 02:30.12 | Zelut | yes |
| 02:30.23 | herlo | k, cool |
| 02:30.38 | Zelut | synergys --config my-config-file. synergyc ip.address.of.synergys |
| 02:30.51 | herlo | right |
| 02:31.04 | herlo | hmm, not working |
| 02:31.42 | Zelut | sometimes it wants hostnames throughout. sometimes IPs. Haven't figured out why.. |
| 02:31.56 | Zelut | you should be able to see the error in /var/log/messages .. |
| 02:32.26 | herlo | Zelut: its not starting on the server but it starts on the client |
| 02:32.41 | herlo | Zelut: should I start it as the user I will be running as or root? |
| 02:34.31 | Zelut | herlo: user should be fine.. |
| 02:34.49 | herlo | k, but it still won't start |
| 02:34.56 | Zelut | anything from the log? |
| 02:35.50 | herlo | yeah, but I think its old, hold on |
| 02:36.00 | herlo | Synergy 1.3.1: FATAL: synergys.cpp,655: unknown screen name `herlo-lap.catan' |
| 02:36.11 | herlo | the reason I think its old is because that name is now an ip address |
| 02:36.27 | herlo | hostname |
| 02:36.27 | herlo | herlo-lap.catan |
| 02:36.27 | Zelut | maybe tail it and drop it down a few lines then try again.. |
| 02:36.56 | Zelut | my most common problem is just the .synergy.conf not resolving the client / server addresses properly. |
| 02:38.09 | clutchmm | Zelut: can I chat with you in a pm for a sec? |
| 02:38.53 | herlo | Zelut: brb, otis wants a new monitor |
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| 03:27.20 | herlo | redbeard2: did you get my text? |
| 03:29.47 | findlay | I want text |
| 03:32.39 | herlo | Zelut: so it appears that the problem that synergy has is the fact that its based on hostname if there is one. |
| 03:33.13 | herlo | Zelut: so synergy works now... |
| 03:33.18 | herlo | ~w00t |
| 03:33.30 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 03:35.31 | clutchmm | ? |
| 03:35.45 | clutchmm | ok, I'm still connected |
| 03:37.08 | herlo | clutchmm: yes you are |
| 03:40.45 | herlo | Zelut: ping |
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| 04:40.59 | clutchmm | herlo: my internet wigged out ans usually when that happens I have to exit out of the room and re-enter to fix it |
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| 14:24.13 | Zelut | morning |
| 14:24.52 | scottymuse | howdy |
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| 16:28.17 | tristanbob_ | anyone know where to download the official ubuntu user guide? |
| 16:32.21 | [phoenyx] | https://help.ubuntu.com/ ? |
| 16:34.58 | tristanbob_ | I can get pdfs for 6.10 and 6.06 but not 7.04 |
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| 17:00.36 | Yorokobi | clutchmm, what is beifal? |
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| 17:04.42 | redbeard1 | howdy |
| 17:06.20 | redbeard1 | ~lart Zelut |
| 17:06.20 | jbot | steals Zelut's mojo |
| 17:08.26 | Zelut | d'oh! |
| 17:08.46 | redbeard1 | so, now i get to get used to irssi |
| 17:09.58 | fizz | it's about time! :) irssi is nice. |
| 17:10.34 | redbeard1 | i've been using gaim this whole time, but irssi has always seemed attractive, esepecially within screen |
| 17:11.16 | fizz | it's very cosy once you get into it. i just need to get perms to put bitlbee on my friends server that i run irssi on. |
| 17:11.50 | redbeard1 | i just heard herlo and Zelut talking about bitlbee, but i didn't catch what it was |
| 17:12.05 | herlo | redbeard1: search for bitlbee on google |
| 17:12.21 | redbeard1 | hey, does irssi log conversations? |
| 17:14.01 | redbeard1 | ah, bitlbee looks cool. installing it now. |
| 17:14.57 | herlo | its an xinetd service that you'll have to enable... |
| 17:15.12 | maquis | redbeard1: you starting work this week? |
| 17:15.18 | redbeard1 | yeah, i saw that |
| 17:15.26 | redbeard1 | maquis: i am. i'm at work right now. |
| 17:15.47 | maquis | redbeard1: cool! |
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| 17:21.45 | synic | woohoo, DAAP in Exaile. Check this out: http://www.vimtips.org/article/17/daap-music-sharing-and-exaile |
| 17:22.55 | JoeyDay | herlo: Is there a way to tell rtorrent to keep seeding a particular file? |
| 17:23.43 | JoeyDay | There are a couple open source projects I'd like to support by infinitely seeding their downloads, particularly Ubuntu. |
| 17:29.36 | herlo | JoeyDay: I am not sure, I struggle with that too. i thought it did before so I am thinking there is... |
| 17:30.04 | herlo | JoeyDay: oh, yeah, I think you can have it ignore the seeding limits or set them very high.... |
| 17:30.37 | JoeyDay | Pressing 'I' when selected on a torrent will toggle the ignore status. I think. I just found that in the docs but it wasn't very clear. |
| 17:34.47 | herlo | JoeyDay: that sounds correct |
| 17:36.36 | herlo | synic: is it you that develops exaile? |
| 17:36.46 | synic | yeah |
| 17:37.59 | herlo | synic: it barfs at me when I try to play the last.fm stations |
| 17:38.20 | synic | herlo: yeah, it does that. It's been taken out of the next release until we can fix it. |
| 17:38.27 | herlo | I get no output other than "tuning into last.fm" or whatever... |
| 17:38.56 | herlo | synic: ahh, that's the whole reason I wanted to use exaile because it "supported" last.fm |
| 17:39.26 | synic | well, it does submissions, but getting the streaming part to work has been a bit of a problem. |
| 17:41.10 | synic | it works occasionally, but if there's a problem connecting to last.fm (and there usually is [their servers aren't the fastest or most reliable], it just locks gstreamer up) |
| 17:41.10 | herlo | synic: ahh, well I guess I'll watch for the release that works there then... |
| 17:41.11 | herlo | I see |
| 17:41.11 | herlo | synic: tx |
| 18:01.41 | clutchmm | I can't seem to find a fix for tightvnc or vnc4 servers both of them give me a solid grey screen with an "X" for a pointer, but if I use vino I get no problems..... Except for the fact that vino won't let me paste to my vnc window |
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| 18:23.23 | redbeard1 | Zelut: when does lunch usually happy around here? |
| 18:24.07 | maquis | redbeard1: lunch is usually happy |
| 18:24.08 | redbeard1 | s/happy/happen/ |
| 18:24.31 | Zelut | redbeard1: when we all start getting hungry? :) |
| 18:25.05 | tapH20guru | kinda nervous... I'm applying for full ubuntu membership at today's community council meeting |
| 18:25.20 | redbeard1 | tapH20guru: that's awesome! |
| 18:25.28 | tapH20guru | thx |
| 18:25.32 | tapH20guru | any pointers? |
| 18:25.59 | redbeard1 | i'm not a member, so i'm a bad person to ask |
| 18:26.02 | redbeard1 | Zelut? |
| 18:27.19 | tapH20guru | atoponce / tristanbob ... you guys are welcome hop on #ubuntu-meeting and vouch for me LOL |
| 18:27.21 | Zelut | tapH20guru: link us your ubuntu wiki page. |
| 18:28.41 | tapH20guru | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScottBarber |
| 18:28.48 | tapH20guru | I'm still adding a few things |
| 18:30.31 | Zelut | tapH20guru: you have listed in your wiki that you are an ubuntu member...? |
| 18:30.43 | tapH20guru | ubuntero |
| 18:31.00 | Zelut | probably add that to your update list. |
| 18:31.02 | tapH20guru | need to fix.... nice catch |
| 18:31.17 | Zelut | would you like some feedback? |
| 18:31.31 | tapH20guru | yessir |
| 18:31.50 | tapH20guru | any help would be appreciated |
| 18:32.05 | Zelut | beef up your contributions. that is what they want to see. |
| 18:32.21 | tapH20guru | k |
| 18:32.24 | Zelut | looking thru it myself I see 1 forum post and 1 wiki post. more? |
| 18:32.45 | Zelut | they want to see sizeable and continued contributions |
| 18:32.49 | tapH20guru | k |
| 18:33.34 | Zelut | if you're doing much with the AZ team list it. |
| 18:33.47 | tapH20guru | k |
| 18:39.01 | nurn | hey does any one know how to bridge a windows and linux dns server? |
| 18:53.38 | clutchmm | Yorokobi: sorry for the response time... "beifal" is "thunderous applause" |
| 18:54.15 | tapH20guru | Zelut: I've updated my wiki page... too weak still? |
| 18:54.18 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 19:02.57 | atoponce | tapH20guru: did i miss it? |
| 19:03.24 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 19:03.28 | tapH20guru | it's at 2pm |
| 19:03.34 | tapH20guru | thanks |
| 19:03.35 | atoponce | oh. ok. cool |
| 19:03.36 | atoponce | np |
| 19:07.47 | Zelut | tapH20guru: honestly I don't think I'd approve it. It looks to me like it needs to be more long-term sustained contribution.. |
| 19:07.57 | Zelut | tapH20guru: ..but I'm not on the CC. :) |
| 19:08.14 | tapH20guru | yeah - understanable |
| 19:08.15 | Zelut | tapH20guru: looks like you're off to a really good start though and definitely going in the right direction. |
| 19:08.22 | tapH20guru | if not I'll try for next time |
| 19:08.55 | Zelut | don't want to sound like a downer or anything.. just seen a lot of these CC meetings. |
| 19:09.37 | tapH20guru | do you think it's worth a shot? I'm ok pulling my name and doing ti next time |
| 19:11.21 | Zelut | I think I'd pull it.. but could be a learning experience going through and seeing what they suggest. |
| 19:11.48 | tapH20guru | i think I'll pull it and go to the meeting to see how it runs |
| 19:11.51 | tapH20guru | thanks for your help |
| 19:41.28 | atoponce | LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLO |
| 19:41.47 | atoponce | putty for feisty????? |
| 19:41.52 | atoponce | what's the point? |
| 19:42.58 | maquis | huh? |
| 19:43.18 | atoponce | maquis: _LOL_ |
| 19:43.28 | Yorokobi | Yeah, but why? |
| 19:45.12 | atoponce | give me *one*, and only one, _good_ reason why putty *needs* to be ported for linux |
| 19:45.32 | atoponce | i understand it's FOSS |
| 19:45.42 | atoponce | but still. |
| 19:46.16 | Yorokobi | PuTTY has been in the repositories for quite a while. Did you just stumble on it? |
| 19:46.29 | atoponce | btw- ssh -fN is the coolest thing since sliced bread |
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| 19:47.44 | atoponce | Yorokobi: i did just stumble on it, and i find it h.i.l.a.r.i.o.u.s. |
| 19:48.29 | atoponce | the funniest thing i find about it, is it was built for windows, so that cow pasture could have an ssh client |
| 19:48.43 | atoponce | and we port it to linux? what am i missing? |
| 19:48.45 | Yorokobi | There are a lot of packages for Debian (and, by extension, children of Debian) that are not necessary |
| 19:49.03 | atoponce | true. and this one takes the cake |
| 19:49.28 | atoponce | sorry. i just find it funny. i'll get back to work now |
| 19:51.17 | Yorokobi | atoponce, here's your one reason: because it can be. |
| 19:52.38 | atoponce | ok. that works. foss is all about choice. i understand that |
| 19:54.53 | atoponce | i just never thought i would've seen an app, built especially for windows, to give windows linux functionality even, ported to linux |
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| 20:38.33 | Hearts|Laptop | wow guess I left my laptop on all night |
| 20:41.02 | JoeyDay | atoponce: What does ssh -fN do? |
| 20:42.37 | Hearts|Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:43.29 | Yorokobi | -f fork ssh to the background; -N do not open a terminal/login/shell |
| 20:43.59 | Yorokobi | correction: -N Do not execute a remote command. |
| 20:44.18 | Hearts|Laptop | when would it be useful? |
| 20:44.49 | Yorokobi | I use -fN for port forwarding or SOCKS5 proxying |
| 20:45.55 | Hearts|Laptop | Maybe its time I did |
| 20:53.14 | clutchmm | Hearts|Laptop: have you messed with Linux on the ps3 yet? |
| 20:54.37 | herlo | sontek: ping |
| 20:54.52 | clutchmm | I am still working on virtual machines for the ps3, I'm close but having trouble compiling "kqemu", apparently GCC doesn't like the powerpc64 architecture |
| 20:55.52 | Hearts|Laptop | No |
| 20:56.02 | Hearts|Laptop | Sorry I was in another window |
| 20:56.11 | Hearts|Laptop | I did read your post |
| 20:56.32 | Hearts|Laptop | on the installation stalling at 15% and your work around |
| 20:56.34 | clutchmm | speak of which... I still can't figure out how to use a different compiler other than GCC... Does anyone know how to set something other than GCC as the default compiler for Ubuntu |
| 20:57.02 | Hearts|Laptop | never used anything but gcc |
| 20:57.05 | Hearts|Laptop | sorry |
| 20:58.30 | Hearts|Laptop | I do have a question though Clutch, If I do try the linux port to my PS3.... is it reversible if I want to put it back? |
| 20:58.33 | clutchmm | Hearts|Laptop: I am trying to create a new distribution of Ubuntu that is designed for the ps3, the current install is just the powerpc distribution with a few tweaks to get it to run on the ps3 |
| 20:59.01 | clutchmm | what do you mean "put it back? |
| 20:59.57 | Hearts|Laptop | back to the factory out of the box settings |
| 21:00.56 | Hearts|Laptop | I just like to do some reading before I tear into it |
| 21:01.02 | clutchmm | yes you can, there is an option somewhere in the xmb under "system settings" I think that will let you revert the hdd to the original factory settings |
| 21:02.13 | clutchmm | the way it's set up, once you partition the drive for another OS, the other OS partition can't access the xmb(ps3 OS) partition, it's impossible |
| 21:02.59 | clutchmm | I partitioned 10gigs for the other OS and kept 50gigs for the xmb |
| 21:04.30 | clutchmm | if you decide you want or need more space for the "Other OS" partition, you can just connect an external hdd(like I'm about to) and use it all for linux stuff |
| 21:05.15 | Hearts|Laptop | External Drive is it USB? |
| 21:05.22 | clutchmm | yes |
| 21:05.55 | clutchmm | or if you have the money you can get a blue tooth external drive and use that |
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| 21:07.14 | clutchmm | right now (in my opinion) Ubuntu is the best choice for the ps3 |
| 21:07.39 | clutchmm | mainly for it's ease of use once it's installed |
| 21:07.53 | Hearts|Laptop | Where is the best reading on the HOW TO? |
| 21:09.57 | clutchmm | I'm not quite sure what you mean by "best reading" but I would start by going to http://www.psubuntu.com which is an online community just for Ubuntu on the ps3 |
| 21:11.10 | Hearts|Laptop | thanx |
| 21:11.59 | clutchmm | The formatted version of my How To is in the "Forum" section under user submitted How Tos |
| 21:18.04 | clutchmm | Hearts|Laptop: if you have any trouble of questions just ask me and I'll give you a hand, I am playing a game so it might take ma a bit to respond |
| 21:53.48 | atoponce | JoeyDay: sorry. went to lunch |
| 21:54.02 | atoponce | ssh -f will background the process |
| 21:54.18 | atoponce | ssh -N will keep from commands being executed |
| 21:54.30 | atoponce | so, paired together, it's perfect for setting up ssh tunnels |
| 21:54.36 | atoponce | ~w00t |
| 21:54.38 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 22:38.47 | clutchmm | is it possible to setup a file like .ssh.config but for vncviewer so I can assign host names to the ips I am accessing? |
| 22:46.22 | atoponce | clutchmm: you want to assign just ips to hostnames? do that in /etc/hosts |
| 22:57.25 | clutchmm | atoponce: do I do that on the client or host machine? Basically I don't want to have to type in 192.168.1.1:0 anymore, I would just like to be able to type in "vncviewer ps3" instead |
| 22:58.16 | tapH20guru | aaron is right... that'd be your /etc/hosts or if you have your own internal dns server.. it would be there |
| 23:04.21 | clutchmm | also, I installed xtightvncviewer, I thought it was a gui based viewer but I can't find it, also vnc4 and tightvnc servers only give me a grey screen with a big "X" for a cursor and don't show my remote desktop. Vino works fine, but it is basic and doesn't have any configuration to speak of which also means I can't copy text from my laptop's desktop and paste it onto the remote machine through the vnc window(which is something vnc4server allows) |
| 23:11.54 | clutchmm | atoponce: thanks, that worked for the name |
| 23:20.15 | Hearts|Laptop | clutchmm: thanx sounds like a weekend project, redo-ing the PS3 |
| 23:22.03 | clutchmm | Hearts|Laptop: for your install is will take about 1-2 hours or so, My project will take a lot longer if I can't get a team put together to help me :) |
| 23:23.27 | clutchmm | most of my trouble is the fact that I jumped in head first(like always) and there are things I don't know how to do on Linux that if I did, things would go a lot smoother for me |