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00:02.11herloand would love to have all of you in his class.  Teach you a thing or two about manners!
00:02.14herlo:)
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02:05.57*** topic/#ubuntu-utah is Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam | https://launchpad.net/~utahteam | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-utah | Next Meeting: Feisty Release Party April 21 @ Orbit Cafe in SLC- Ping Zelut, atoponce or HoneyShiv for details
02:22.34Zelutwhat does everyone suggest for cell phone providers?
02:25.37linuxalienAnyone but Cingular.  They've ripped me off big time so I quit.
02:26.08ZelutI'm sick of Verizon myself.. what does that leave? T-Mobile, sprint..
02:29.10linuxalienHmm Qwest is ok but watch those "one time fees" They also tend to "accidentally" bill you for silly stuff.
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02:29.45Zelutqworst won't be getting any of my business thank you
02:29.59linuxalienhehehe
02:32.04Zelutherlo: ping ping
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03:18.06Zelutatoponce: ping
03:19.45Zelutlol. i think someone in my building is a WoW nerd.  the essid? "Epic Mount"
03:22.34atoponceZelut: pong
03:22.51Zelutatoponce: are you on a t-mobile plan?
03:22.52sontek:O
03:22.58sontekCingular is the best =)
03:22.59atoponceZelut: yessir
03:23.06atoponcesontek: you mean the net at&t
03:23.09atoponces/et/ew/
03:23.23sontekatoponce: yes =)
03:23.25Zelutatoponce: are you still wanting to switch? any suggestions on plans or phones?
03:23.39sontekZelut: Cingular 8525 with their service
03:24.04ZelutI don't want to stay with Verizon. I don't want AT&T.  I don't want Qworst.  
03:24.06atoponceZelut: i dunno. at times i hate it, but at other times, i don't
03:24.15atoponceatm, i am pleased with them
03:24.20atoponcebut, i would like a new phone
03:24.26sontekZelut: I just moved from verizon to cingular
03:24.36ZelutI like the idea of a treo, but not for $299
03:26.20sontekZelut: Its a badass windows mobile!
03:26.21Zelutsontek: you should know better than than around me dude :)
03:26.32sontekZelut: have you have used palm? Its TERRIBLE
03:26.47ZelutI don't want viruses on my phone!
03:27.05sontekZelut: stick with POS phones that do nothing if you are going to get a Palm
03:27.25sontekEven if you get a Treo I'd get the windows one
03:27.49Zelutyeck
03:28.17sontekYou should find someone with a palm phone and try to use it
03:29.30sontekYou need to learn to chose the best thing that does the job =)
03:30.22sontekor you could get a Trolltech
03:30.24sontekthey run linux
03:30.31sontekI don't know anyone that has one though
03:33.36sontekBut if you are going to put out over $100 for a phone, do some research, you don't want to end up with a piece of crap just because you are a linux biggot =)
03:34.01sontekI'm sure there are _some_ phones that are decent and run linux
03:34.02Zelutnot sure I've been called a bigot for quite some time
03:34.04sontekbut the best don't
03:34.43sontekI don't mean it to be insulting, but you sure aren't open minded about anything else :)
03:37.39sontekbut i'll be right back =)
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04:13.25sontekZelut: so what do you think of fedora so far?
04:15.04Zelutsontek: I haven't been using it much actually.. it's only on my home test machine.
04:15.13ZelutI'll probably need to install it on my laptop before long.
04:16.40Zelutstill looking for phones.. I give up.
04:16.54ZelutI don't need much more than a phone to call people with :)
04:37.45atoponceagreed
04:42.16sontekI use my phone as a mini harddrive, a internet access point when none are there, video player when traveling, mp3 player when at work, and once in awhile I talk on it :P
04:42.33sontekTalking is the last feature I looked for in a phone :P
04:42.38sontekI have more important needs
04:46.12sontekbut the only reason I went with a phone with all the features is because I was sick of carrying my video ipod, phone, and palm everywhere :P
05:07.52Zelutanyone very familiar with west valley?
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14:00.24Zelutmorning
14:08.52redbeard1morning
14:15.57ZelutI have got to find some solution to this bitlbee problem.  driving me nuts!
14:18.02Zeluton a more exciting note though, Feisty Beta should release today
14:24.27sontekmorning!
14:26.18maquis*yawn*
14:46.42atoponcegot my eff t-shirt in the mail
14:46.44atoponcew00t
14:46.52redbeard1what does it look like?
14:48.25atoponcegrey with 4 icons on the front: privacy (a lock), fair use (headphones), innovation (lightbulb) & free speech (megaphone)
14:49.20atoponcehttp://static.flickr.com/39/106772871_0829c7fd98.jpg
14:50.43atoponcethe back has the eff logo (fairly large) with the text "eff.org member supported since 1990"
15:03.47Zelutatoponce: so is that your fair use ipod and OSX as well? :)
15:04.01atoponceipod?
15:04.09Zelutin the picture
15:04.21atoponceahh. that's not mine. found it online
15:05.11ZelutI'm guessing that is a stock photo someplace.  thought it interesting that the 'fair use' shirt shows two non-free items.
15:05.27atoponcewell, it could be a statement
15:05.50atoponcesubconciously
15:11.46maquis*yawn*
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18:13.32atoponcejbot: boo
18:13.33jbotfor heaven's sake, atoponce, don't do that!
18:13.44atoponces/o/oo/
18:13.53atoponcenice
18:13.57atoponcemuch better, i think
18:50.30atoponcei think nixternal deliberately chose those two blogs, because, they'll reach dead ends quickly & stay off the ubuntu planet
18:50.44atoponcewhich is unfortunate
18:50.46atoponceoh well
19:08.06sontek:O!
19:52.14Zelutatoponce: revoke your ping to nixternal and ping someone who wants to play! :)
19:52.34tristanbobperhaps others didn't want to play that game
19:53.30tristanbobit kinda sounded like a multi-level marketing scheme ;)
19:53.49tristanbobor a chain letter
19:56.42sontekatoponce: yeah, usually its more fun if blog tag involves a topic, the last one I was involved in we had to list 5 things that were unique(weird) about us
19:56.52sontekthat was kind of fun because we got to learn things about our friends
19:56.57sontekrather than just posting to post
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20:02.56atoponcesontek: you're posting your rss feeds
20:03.12atoponcehow is that different from the 5 things?
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20:43.36sontekatoponce: I think it'd be more effective if you had to post your 3 favorite blogs to read and why or something
20:44.01sontekatoponce: just posting your OPML doesn't really give content
20:44.20sontekalthough I'd love to see everyones OPML to see what everyone likes, I'd also like to know why =)
20:58.08synichey folks, what's a good blogging software?
21:06.42atoponcewordpress
21:06.45sonteksynic: WordPress
21:10.42[phoenyx]what wordpress plugins do all y'all use?
21:10.57herloall of em
21:11.40redbeard1do you guys know who maddox is?
21:12.07atoponce[phoenyx]: browser sniff, democracy, geshi, openid, spam karma, wp-cache and wp-contactform
21:12.15sontekredbeard1: he runs the best site in the universe
21:12.19sontekredbeard1: and a utah native =)
21:12.21atoponceredbeard1: yeah. he's a moron
21:12.42atoponcehe suffers from penis envy
21:12.44redbeard1harley just told me he's in sllug, is that true?
21:13.20sontekHe could be, I've only been to sllug twice, things always come up
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21:58.31stuporglueSuddenly I can't do anything on my system. I can't log in except on the command line, and I can't write any files anywhere, except as root
21:58.41stuporglueNot even /tmp is writeable. Anyone else get this with the latest Feisty updates? (It was probably me...just checking if anyone else is in the same boat.)
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22:25.24atoponcehmmm
22:25.37atoponceit's been a while since i've cleaned out my gmail inbox...
22:25.41atoponce139 messages...
22:31.46sontekhaha thats all? ;)
22:32.00atoponcei keep it clean daily
22:32.01sontek1132
22:32.49atoponce6597 total messages from june '04 to date
22:34.32sontekI want to keep mine clean but its to screwed up to go back and fix
22:34.46atoponcewhat's wrong with it?
22:34.58sontekI have 1132 in my inbox alone :P
22:35.13sontekand then there are 30/40 labels I have configured that have random crap in them
22:35.14atoponcemeh. take the 10min and clean it. :)
22:35.25sontekI wasn't very organized in 04 and now i'm to lazy :P
22:35.31atoponceahh
22:35.49sontekso how did you get your first gmail account? =)
22:36.01sonteka lot of people have interesting stories about theirs
22:36.12atoponcei had a blogger.com account, and got an invite from google
22:36.30sontekI wrote "GMAIL" on my forehead in sharpie and took a picture and a guy in IRC gave me one :P
22:36.39atoponcenice
22:37.28atoponcea few thing that they do, still bother me
22:37.29sontekI might have the picture still :P
22:37.39atoponceoh really? well, let's have a look
22:37.49sonteki'm looking =)
22:38.04sontekYeah, they are the best web interface out but they still do some things weird
22:38.11sontekI just use mutt usually
22:38.28atoponcei need to start using it
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22:40.21atoponcethere are a few things, that until i figure out with mutt, will keep me in thunderbird
22:58.39atoponce!forums
22:58.41UtahBot[Ubuntuforums] Test - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380275
22:58.42UtahBot[Ubuntuforums] Installation issue(s) noobie - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=389504
22:58.43UtahBot[Ubuntuforums] Can you Add Ubuntu Desktop to a Windows Domain? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390948
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23:44.04dominicgping anyone

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