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00:03.20atoponceZelut: ping
00:03.21Zelutpong
00:04.18atoponceany ideas on the irc meet
00:05.02Tianonirc!  =]
00:05.33atoponceand, any ideas on the meet coming up in 3 days?
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00:06.05Zelutno meet in three days. didn't that email go thru?
00:06.31ZelutI sent out to the list a few days ago..
00:07.22atoponcehmm. have a date/time? i'm not seeing anything, but i could be overlooking it
00:07.33Tianonmeet in 3 days?  =P
00:08.03Zelutwe don't have a planned meeting for Feb
00:08.14atoponce2nd sat as usual
00:08.18Zelutnotice the topic. "pending"
00:09.07Tianonsilly topic  =P
00:16.11atoponceUbuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | Feb meeting canceled | Meeting with CO LoCo Feb 12: see mailing list for details | Help with the constitution: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Constitution
00:16.15*** topic/#ubuntu-utah by atoponce -> Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | Feb meeting canceled | Meeting with CO LoCo Feb 12: see mailing list for details | Help with the constitution: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Constitution
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00:17.59Tianonaww  =P
00:18.54atoponcewe should have an irc meeting this month though, i think
00:19.07atoponceshoot for the 24th?
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02:48.56Tianonis feisty stable enough for real usage yet?
02:53.41Tianoncurrently downloading herd3 to "play"  =P
02:54.43Tianonwish there was a mini.iso for it  =P
05:07.52ZelutTianon: I've got it on two machines. Works really well so far
05:08.09Tianonkewl
05:08.13ZelutI haven't put it on my production machine yet, but it seems stable enough
05:08.19Tianonlol
05:08.19Tianon:)
05:09.12Zelutanyone have any idea if $50 is too much / too little for a firefox plugin bounty?
05:44.06ZelutI guess not :)
05:46.15atoponce:)
05:46.37atoponcebounty? as in finding, documenting, and fixing a bug?
05:46.51atoponceif you're willing to pay it, i think it's great
05:47.33Zelutcreating a plugin is what I'm looking for
05:47.57atoponceso you're willing to pay $50 for someone to write a plugin for you?
05:48.05atoponcei'd do it, if i knew how
05:48.23Zelutand I'd do it if I knew how.. but I don't
05:49.08atoponcesoooo..., what are the details? give me the low-down. are you pony-ing up the bounty, or someone else?
05:49.14ZelutThe way I want to market the plugin on my marketing site I think I can make that investment back soon
05:49.48Zelutit'll be free, of course, but the traffic & publicity will pay with traffic, adsense and affiliates
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05:51.11Zelutall I need it to do is report the current URL to google using site: and display whether or not its indexed
05:51.47atoponcesouds simple enough
05:52.13ZelutI'm sure I could even do it using bash, but integrating as a plugin for FF I have no idea
05:53.16Zelutbut with as much work that I do and others in my industry do with link building I think it'd be really useful
05:53.50atoponcei'd put it on your blog, and see if you generate any responses
05:53.54atoponcemaybe the mailing list too
05:54.00atoponces/st/sts/
05:54.27Zelutone step ahead. I figure once it hits the planet(s) I'll get some replies
05:54.55atoponcedefinitely
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06:05.04Zelutatoponce: so did the email I sent not go out about the cancelled meeting?
06:07.57atoponcei don't see it. do you have a timestamp when it was sent?
06:08.08atoponcei may have overlooked it in my email
06:08.38ZelutTue, 06 Feb 2007 09:40:21 -0700
06:09.13atoponcenope. not sent
06:09.23atoponceat least i don't have it
06:10.02ZelutI just resent it.. let me know if you see it please
06:10.50atoponcegot it
06:11.54Zelutok. wonder why the last one didn't go thru
06:12.31Zelutyour blog is going to look like the feed icon? or you're adding that large icon?
06:12.34atoponcedunno
06:12.53atoponceyeah, but not quite that size, and it'll blend with my theme nicely
06:13.43ZelutI'm a big fan of prominent RSS icon.
06:14.33Zelut450 subscribers on ubuntu-tutorials, 50 on the marketing site.. I think much of that is based on the prominent icons.
06:23.34ZelutI'm off to bed
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06:54.39thenetduckhey is anyone up?
07:16.45atoponcethere. feed icon updated with a css rollover effect
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15:33.35tristanbob_somebody translated my blog - but at least they linked to my post
15:33.37tristanbob_http://pollycoke.wordpress.com/2007/02/08/cinque-modi-per-usare-unapp-winzoz-only-su-linux/
15:37.43redbeard1hey that's handy
15:53.45tristanbobLinspire's New Partnership with Canonical and Ubuntu
15:53.54tristanbobhttp://www.linspire.com/linspire_letter_archives.php?id=40
15:54.29tristanbob<PROTECTED>
15:54.29tristanbobThere are two main components to this partnership: 1) Linspire will immediately transition from Debian to Ubuntu as the base for their Linspire and Freespire operating systems, and 2) Canonical will utilize Linspire's CNR technology for aspects of Ubuntu's software delivery system
15:54.56redbeard1what is their CNR technology?
15:55.55tristanbobclick n run
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15:56.12tristanbobthey will be offering it on multiple OS soon
15:56.21tristanbobit has been free for a few months
15:56.28tristanbobThis is a neat pic: http://net2.com/OSbuildingblocks.jpg
15:56.36tapH20gurutristanbob! it's me...  Scott barber
15:56.54tristanbobtapH20guru: holy cow!
15:56.58tapH20gurulol
15:57.12tristanbobis the tapH20guru  name because it is so dry in Arizona? ;)
15:57.34tapH20guruso true... although it's 75 right now so I can't complain
15:57.45maquis"the details of your message indicate that the printer is experiencing a hardware issue that will require printer repair.  HP cannot provide this service via our email support program at this time."
15:57.49tapH20guruit's awesome to see the cool work done with oalug and ubuntu-utah
15:58.10tapH20guruatoponce? you there?
15:58.13maquissweet... in the future they're planning on providing hardware repair over email?
15:58.57tapH20gurutristanbob: nice link on digg btw
16:01.37tristanbobtapH20guru: thanks :)  it made me happy.  I put adsense on the next day
16:01.38tapH20gurulol
16:01.38tristanbobI'm on target for $8/month... YES!
16:01.38tristanbobubuntu-utah is fun and so is oalug
16:02.17tapH20gururolling in the dough
16:02.18tapH20gurui wish the AZ community was as cool
16:02.20tapH20gurui'm more into stright up Ruby/Rails user groups now
16:02.34tapH20gurustill would like to see the ubuntu AZ team take off
16:02.41tristanbobtapH20guru: how is the job?  family?
16:02.55atoponcetapH20guru: here
16:02.57tristanbobyou know that Ubuntu-utah helps new US teams, right?
16:03.08tapH20gurugood good... sysadmin at UoP fam is good
16:03.08atoponcefor a minute or two, anyway
16:03.19tapH20guruatopance... it's me ScottyB
16:03.21tristanbob#ubuntu-us
16:03.34atoponceword
16:03.36tapH20gurutristanbob: i'll have to look at
16:03.38tapH20guruword up
16:03.41atoponcehow's AZ?
16:03.49tapH20gurunice and worm now
16:04.00atoponcecool
16:04.03tapH20gurui'm going to be in Utah in Marc.. still a oalug meeting going on?
16:04.08tapH20guruMarh
16:04.24atoponceyeah. not sure what we're doing atm.
16:04.33tapH20guruare there ubuntu-uath meetings?
16:04.41tristanbobyes - monthly
16:04.47tristanboband IRC meetings monthly
16:04.53tapH20guruslc?
16:04.53tristanbob(me thinks)
16:04.56tristanbobyes the library
16:05.03atoponce14th, probably a linux install fest, as it's been requested we go back to the basics
16:05.18tapH20gurusweet nectar... i'll be in town for the mtn west ruby conf
16:05.29tristanbobatoponce: perhaps I'll present on games once a year :)
16:05.41tapH20guruthat whole week... march 11-18
16:05.42atoponcetristanbob: or more often?
16:05.44atoponce:)
16:06.04atoponcetapH20guru: cool. it would be good to see you again.
16:06.26tapH20guruyeah.. I'll try and stop by
16:06.34tristanbobtapH20guru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USTeams
16:06.47atoponcetapH20guru: cool. i'm off to work. bbiab
16:06.50tapH20guruyou guys have done great work with oalug and ubuntu-utah
16:06.58tapH20gurusee ya
16:07.06tristanbobhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam I see you on there
16:07.34tapH20guruyeah.. i created the page to see if there were interest
16:07.47tapH20guruno one really contacted me though
16:09.54tristanboba few people signed up after you
16:10.51tapH20guruyeah.. i tried contacting them .. no dice
16:11.16tapH20gurui need to see how a team is supposed to be created
16:11.32tapH20gurui'll read up on this wiki page
16:14.02tapH20guruwell.. it was real... see you guys in next month
16:19.01tristanbobatoponce: why do you think they cannot help you when on break
16:24.12tristanbobatoponce: you blog better not catch me as spam again...
16:25.08tristanbobZelut: you gotta be kidding?  You get us all interested in this plugin, but you don't list it on your site?  
16:26.41tristanbobatoponce: Crap!  After 60 seconds of processing, your blog called me spam again.  (I have never gotten through your filters)  
16:38.33maquis:)
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16:52.57Zeluttristanbob: I wonder why you get filtered and nobody else does?
16:55.32Zelutatoponce's blog always filters me out
16:59.35maquistristanbob: do your posts talk about v14gr4 or something?
17:18.32atoponcetristanbob: it's called "customer service", and *every* retail/customer job i've had, i was *always* instructed to provide customer service even when on lunch or break
17:18.45atoponcethere's no legal law. it's lack of caring
17:19.26atoponcetristanbob: Zelut: i don't know why the filters catch you two. i get plenty of comments through the filters, and the settings are quite reasonable
17:20.00atoponcei'll lokk through the database, and see what the reasons for catching you were
17:21.20atoponcetristanbob: post recovered
17:21.58atoponcethe reason it blacklisted you was because of your url: *.blogspot.com
17:22.25atoponceapparently, it doesn't like that url thinking it could be spam bots looking for google juice
17:29.28ZelutI do half my work off the clock
17:37.18tristanbob"Will the CNR plugin ever be shipped by default in Ubuntu?
17:37.18tristanbobCanonical plans to integrate aspects of the open source CNR technology into Ubuntu's software management system starting with Ubuntu's Feisty +1 release expected in October 2007."
18:08.44atoponcei'm just glad it won't replace apt as the default package manager. i think it's great that it's a viable option, however
18:16.36tristanbobatoponce: I agree
19:27.12Zeluttwo cancellations already today. argh
19:40.42[phoenyx]!geek
19:40.42UtahBotYou might be a geek if you head straight past People and the always entertaining Weekly World News for this month's Computer Shopper or Linux Format.
19:40.51[phoenyx]!geek
19:40.51UtahBotYou might be a geek if you've ever written a useless program just for the "fun" of it.
19:41.44synic!geek
19:41.45UtahBotYou might be a geek if you've ever debated the merits of the FVWM95 window manager.
19:41.52synic*sigh*
19:41.54synic<-- geek
19:43.42[phoenyx]!geek
19:43.42UtahBotYou might be a geek if you buy a Mac SE, install 7.1 and MacHTTP, and become a web server - running over PPP.
19:44.15[phoenyx]!geek
19:44.16UtahBotYou might be a geek if you consider 65536 and 256 "nice round numbers".
19:44.21[phoenyx]lol
19:44.30Tianonnot just nice ones
19:44.35Tianonthose are the ONLY round numbers  :P
19:46.05[phoenyx]!geek
19:46.06UtahBotYou might be a geek if you refer to eating and drinking as uploading!
20:11.03Zelutyou guys having fun with that ehh?
20:12.55maquisyou might be a geek if you think evilwm is the greatest wm in existence
20:16.14atoponceok boys and girls, put on your thinking hats
20:16.36atoponcei generate an ssh key with a passphrase.
20:17.06atoponcenow, when i login in the morning, i need to run 'ssh-add' and type my passphrase
20:17.19atoponceunfortunately, i have to do this every morning
20:17.41atoponcewhat i would like to do is take my login password, and use that as my ssh-add passphrase
20:17.48atoponceany ideas?
20:18.04maquisatoponce: well... you can set the passwords the same, but you'll still have to type ssh-add every time
20:18.14maquisatoponce: simple solution: don't log out
20:19.06atoponceor, run ssh-add in screen?
20:19.13atoponcei don't think ssh-add relies on X
20:19.19atoponcethat could be viable
20:22.46atoponcehmmm. maybe not
20:22.48Tianonor add ssh-add to your .profile  :P
20:23.02Tianonor .bashrc, whichever is applicable
20:23.25atoponceTianon: how would that help? i would still need to type my passphrase, which is what i'm trying to avoid. securely that is
20:23.31Tianontrue...
20:23.34Tianonhrm
20:23.40Tianonscreen is a no-go?
20:23.51atoponcei *could* just generate a key without a passphrase, but then i'm compromising a level of security
20:24.19atoponceno. because ssh-add adds the key to ssh-agent which is looking for environment variables
20:34.14maquisatoponce: i thought ssh-add had to be run for each terminal you open?
21:00.01atoponcehmm
21:00.05atoponcei'm learning here
21:00.11atoponcethis is what is happening i think
21:00.24atoponcegnome automatically runs ssh-agent when i login
21:00.47atoponceso, i just need to run ssh-add in a terminal, type in my passphrase, and i'm golden
21:01.20atoponceif i logout, then the ssh-agent that gnome ran will be killed, and thus, when i relogin, i'll have to rerun ssh-add
21:02.12atoponcebut, any and all terminals launched under gnome have access to the process
21:20.25maquisatoponce: oh... that makes sense
21:27.46Zelutanyone else have a broken update package today?
21:31.10tristanbobalert: sell all trimspa stock
21:33.11[phoenyx]Zelut: I did
21:47.18maquistrimspa?
21:49.39redbeard1http://www.kevinvanaelst.com/art.html
21:49.48redbeard1oops, i meant to put that in #utah
21:50.02redbeard1you guys might like it too
21:53.05redbeard1some of those are very fractal
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22:12.21Tianonthere's a #utah ?
22:12.22Tianonlol
22:12.29stuporglueThere is.
22:12.42Tianonwow, it has a good number of people inside, too
22:12.42stuporglueIt's the Open Source oriented chat room for Utah
22:13.04stuporglueIt's usually fairly lively :-)
22:13.09Tianonsilly utahns, the internets are for pornographers!
22:13.14Tianon:P
22:14.18Zelutduh
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22:54.21atoponcewhere are the ssh logs?
22:57.32atoponcenevermind. found them
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23:34.08thenetduckhey in the last Ubuntu-Utah meeting, there was a presentation by atoponce. How did he make the presentation?
23:37.30Zelutyou mean what software?
23:38.12thenetduckwell.. ya
23:38.22thenetduckwas it just open office?
23:47.26Zeluts5
23:53.55[phoenyx]is that the eric meyer thing?
23:56.14Zelutsorry I'm on the phone. yes
23:59.28atoponceyeah. s5
23:59.28atoponceit rocks-
23:59.28[phoenyx]amen
23:59.58atoponcewell, i'm off

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