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01:18.52*** join/#ubuntu-utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@gateway.publicvpn.net)
01:20.54linuxalienHi people
01:20.59linuxalienWork is boring.
01:33.33linuxalienstab it in the face!
01:33.42linuxalienOops...sorry, I get like that after watching werewolf movies.
01:33.46maquislinuxalien: you any good with postfix?
01:34.14linuxalienNopers.  I won't be either if I keep using macs
01:35.57maquiswhat mail server to macs use?
01:36.41linuxalienHmmm good question.  I'm a client side person.  Haven't messed with their servers yet.
01:37.48maquisah
01:44.10linuxalienI'd be curious to pick up a book though.
01:52.12maquisi'm trying to manage my own web/mail/sql server
01:52.17maquisand it's gettng to be a pain
01:52.23maquisparticularly since i'm a student
01:52.23maquis:)
01:53.38maquisit ends up in the "go here if you need an excuse for procrastinating" pile
01:53.40linuxalienOh that bite.s  Good luk
01:53.47maquisthx :)
01:54.04maquisless than a month until i can get out of the student position
01:59.41linuxalienYou're welcome.
02:14.33maquisfor future reference
02:14.55maquiswhile debian wants the aliases file in /etc/aliases, centos expects it in /etc/postfix/aliases
02:15.18linuxalienWow, interesting.
02:15.29linuxalienI need to keep reading up on the linux stuff
02:15.56maquiswhat parts do you need to read up on?
02:19.16maquislinuxalien: if you decide to start setting up some server stuff, i do not exceptionally recommend changing what distro your server is on too often
02:19.21maquisit's great for learning, but quite frustrating
02:19.48linuxalienYeah, true... I'd want to stick with ubuntu maybe
02:21.28linuxalienI gotta get it running in Virtual PC
02:21.28maquisor...
02:21.32maquismaybe it needs it in both places
02:21.33linuxalienI'll find a FAQ on that
02:21.36maquisnow *that* is weird
02:22.10linuxalienYeah, true.  Both places would be kinda strange but may be an attempt to stay compatible or something.
02:22.12linuxalienNot sure
02:22.22maquisyeah
02:22.26maquisi'm just linking them
02:22.33linuxalienCool
02:23.08maquisdoh
02:24.40maquisi broke something again
02:27.36linuxalienThat's computers for ya
02:27.45maquisi fixed it again
02:27.54linuxalienhehehe
02:27.58maquis(this is the story of my life with computers, it seems like)
02:30.25linuxalienYeah, same here
02:30.58maquishmmm
02:31.06maquisi don't think i can change my preferences for uug email...
02:31.39linuxalienBummer.  How come/
02:31.41linuxalien?
02:32.15maquisbecause the uug website/server/whatever is currently held together with bubble-gum
02:32.24maquisand it's not even sticky bubble-gum
02:32.32maquisand there's not even string or floss with it
02:33.19linuxalienWow, nice.  They should fix it. :P
02:33.34maquisyeah
02:36.45linuxalienRun it on a mac-mini
02:36.48linuxalien;)
02:36.51maquislol
02:37.03maquisif you want to provide the machine, i'm sure nobody would complain
02:37.08linuxalienI bet in some cases, a mac-mini would make a good server
02:37.09maquisi think we're running on the last machine that was donated
02:37.20linuxalienHey, if I had the money I'd get an old G4 mac mini for you guys
02:37.22maquisa mac mini would be a *ton* nicer than the current machine
02:37.44maquisaside from the fact that our current machine has 3 or 4 hard drives smashed in it
02:37.47maquis3
02:37.47maquisbecause we had 4
02:37.54maquisand then we let the magic smoke out of 1
02:38.10maquisit's an ancient machine, though
02:38.39maquiswhich explains why, during the elections over a yea ago, it got accidentally DDOSd
02:38.58maquis(it's bad when 2 or 3 people running scripts can accidentally DDOS a machine)
02:39.24maquisooh...
02:39.40maquisi think if i try to go around the back way, i might be able to get into the mailing list stuff on the server
02:39.51maquisif worst comes to worst, i don't think they've changed the root password
02:43.14maquiserm...
02:43.16maquisthis sucks
02:45.48linuxalienYeah, getting DDoS'ed sucks
02:46.56maquisactually... that was somewhatfunny :)
02:48.42linuxalienhehehe Well, I'd be kinda mad at the peeps that did that
02:48.52maquisnah
02:48.58maquisit was the people running for office
02:49.04maquisduring the elections
02:49.06linuxalienOh nice. hehehe
02:49.10maquisddos'ing the machines with scripts
02:49.15maquisvoting scripts..
02:49.16maquis:)
02:49.22linuxalienOh nice haha
02:49.44maquisdemocracy
02:54.03linuxalienYeah hehehe
02:54.31maquis:)
02:54.35maquisit was april fools day :)
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02:58.20maquisuug elections are always fun
02:58.41maquisthey happen on or around april fools day, which allows for some fun pranks
02:58.51maquisetc
03:15.01linuxalienhehehehe
03:15.06linuxalienCool
03:50.01*** join/#ubuntu-utah Kuyaedz (n=Kuyaedz@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com)
03:50.26KuyaedzI think we should bomb Turkey
03:56.23linuxalienSounds fun
03:56.49KuyaedzJust got hit from Turkey again
03:56.58linuxalienOh great
03:57.01linuxalienon ubuntu?
03:57.11linuxalienThose turkish hackers are annoying
03:57.22Kuyaedzits an ubuntu web server but its a vhcs flaw.. distro-unrelated.
03:57.50KuyaedzI've spent the last little while tracking more Turkish IP ranges so I can block them all.
03:58.01linuxalienThat sucks
03:58.08linuxalienI'm off work.  Talk to you when I get home.
03:58.58Kuyaedzlater
03:59.04linuxalienlater
04:15.21*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@12.184.89.194)
04:15.28Kuyaedzhey hey
04:15.34herlohola
04:15.50herlobeen at Knott's Berry Farm all day with my son!
04:15.50Kuyaedzherlo: any good with iptables?
04:16.00herloI can probably help, what's up?
04:16.34KuyaedzI got hit from Turkey again on my webserver (vhcs vulnerability).  I found a blacklist generator at http://blacklist.linuxadmin.org
04:16.46herlookay
04:16.56Kuyaedz...but this blacklists based on port.  I'm trying to remember the right syntax for just block-all, not just per port.
04:17.08herlojust drop the port specification
04:17.13herloso something like this
04:17.29Kuyaedziptables -A INPUT -t filter -s ip.address -j DROP ?
04:17.46herloiptables -A INPUT -s 170.44.98.0/24 -j DROP
04:17.54herloyeah, something like that
04:17.59herlofilter is default table
04:18.18Kuyaedzso I don't need filter?
04:18.23herloyou can block entire ip ranges by using CIDR notation
04:18.40herlono, you don't if that's your intent, there's also nat and mangle tables
04:19.36KuyaedzI've been using 'iptables -A INPUT -t filter -s $x -j DROP' where $x = IP/range
04:19.53Kuyaedz..just wanted a second pair of eyes to see if that was right.
04:19.59herloyep, looks fine
04:20.30herloI really can't believe I am able to pull that stuff right from my head so easily
04:20.33KuyaedzLooks like I only had originally blacklisted one of the many Turkey based subnets.  Hopefully this takes care of the rest.
04:20.57herloyou could block an entire class B network with /16
04:23.13herloalso iptables does support VLSN as well, so if you don't know the exact CIDR notation, you could use /255.255.255.0 for example
04:39.13KuyaedzI am tempted to block some of these other countries too.. just for good measure
04:39.35Kuyaedzdoubt I need/want much traffic from places like Korea, Taiwan & Russia
04:40.18herloyou sure?
04:40.40Kuyaedzno, just paranoid at this point
04:40.59herloyeah, you know how to test it right?
04:41.25Kuyaedzcan't think right now.. tell me
04:41.56herlojust modify the ip address to match something you own, test that range
04:42.06herlotest the limits especially
04:42.26herlolike if its a /25 bit mask, make sure to check 1 - 128
04:44.10Kuyaedz..right
04:44.16Kuyaedzman I'm tired now
04:46.36herlohow come?
04:46.43herloit's only 10:45
04:47.11Kuyaedzjust been working on sites & now this server issue all day
04:47.17Kuyaedzjust kind of worn out mentally
04:48.14herloyeah, understandable
04:50.00KuyaedzI'm going to wrap it up tonite.  Thanks for the tips
04:50.00Kuyaedzttyl
04:50.06herlognight
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05:04.51linuxalienHi people
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10:59.51Dapper606If people from Poland are called Poles, why aren't people from Holland called Holes?
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15:10.52atoponce?? Dapper606
15:10.54Dapper606dapper606[1]: Ubuntu-Utah bot for maintaining tasks in the channel
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15:27.49atoponceDapper606: it's time to reboot
15:31.03Dapper606I seem to be experiencing technical difficulties.  Tell Pistos, or complain in http://purepistos.net/forums .
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19:45.40linuxalienHi beefers!
21:18.38herloatoponce: September has 3 e's, you're post is missing one
21:30.23atoponcei need to take advantage of the spell checking that google toolbar provides
21:31.12atoponcethx
21:39.56herloyeah, I understand the desire, btw, flock has built in blog posting, and I think it does spell checking too
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