| 00:09.38 | yassine | is there a way to set global/application wide properties for jsp project ? |
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| 00:51.20 | yassine | wb jbalint |
| 00:51.35 | jbalint | hey |
| 00:52.04 | yassine | now i understand what you mean with your question about the " ! " |
| 00:52.20 | yassine | its used for declaration right |
| 00:52.46 | yassine | <%! declaration %> |
| 00:52.50 | jbalint | Yes, it's not processed during the request but when the page is created. |
| 00:52.55 | yassine | <% call declaration %> |
| 00:53.13 | jbalint | Eh, kind of, that's just scriptlet, so it happens during the request. |
| 00:53.54 | yassine | mhh what im trying to do is to set a kind of global / application wides variables that i could access from each jsp file |
| 00:54.25 | yassine | like the one i normally creates in the web.xml and access in my init() |
| 00:54.40 | jbalint | "each" jsp file? |
| 00:54.51 | yassine | in the application |
| 00:54.56 | jbalint | Why do you need filesystem paths in every single JSP file? |
| 00:55.38 | yassine | im i neeed to merge some xml xsl file and my xml file and xsl are spreded in differnt diretories |
| 00:56.12 | yassine | so each time i want to merg xml and it xsl i need to point to them /ther paths |
| 00:57.17 | jbalint | you cant do this with one servlet or something? |
| 00:58.35 | yassine | i can but that mean more work since i took over this project from someone who spent adosen of hours on it |
| 00:58.54 | yassine | so i wanted to use what already done |
| 01:00.22 | yassine | but i think right now seriously about that |
| 01:00.47 | yassine | no comments nothing so its a bit hard to find a start here |
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| 01:02.06 | jbalint | Yes, that's a bad place to be. |
| 01:05.15 | yassine | jbalint, servlets are not faster than jsp right since jsp are converted to servlets before getting compiled so maybe jsp's are a bit slower at the first call since they get generated but after that its all same or is my understanding wrong ? |
| 01:05.58 | jbalint | Yeah, but it's probably easier for a number of other reasons to hjust use one servlet instead of modifying every single JSP page. |
| 01:06.54 | yassine | i think i will move to servlets since i feel more confortable with them than this chinese here :) |
| 01:07.05 | Uviz | How do you precompile a jsp page so the first call would be fast as well? |
| 01:07.08 | Uviz | yassine, Haha. |
| 01:07.14 | yassine | :) |
| 01:07.25 | yassine | heya Uviz |
| 01:07.42 | Uviz | I found $20k but that's beside the point. |
| 01:08.05 | yassine | Uviz, i was just wondering if on of them is faster Servlets vs jsp but i dont think so |
| 01:08.50 | Uviz | Compiled jsp is same as the servlet. I think you can view the source in your tomcat directory somewhere. |
| 01:08.51 | Uviz | Hold on. |
| 01:09.09 | yassine | i know Uviz |
| 01:09.37 | yassine | i was just making a a kind of comparing |
| 01:09.44 | Uviz | I see. |
| 01:09.51 | yassine | sorry my english is :s |
| 01:10.23 | Uviz | It's more matured than mine. |
| 01:10.26 | yassine | how do you say comparaison ? |
| 01:10.32 | Uviz | Comparison. |
| 01:10.35 | yassine | is that right |
| 01:10.37 | yassine | okay |
| 01:11.13 | Uviz | That's "separate" with "ara." |
| 01:11.57 | yassine | i wrote the one i know from french :) |
| 01:12.14 | yassine | une comparaison a Comarison |
| 01:12.32 | yassine | i think i need some sleep |
| 01:12.54 | Uviz | It's 3 am, you sure do need some sleep. |
| 01:12.54 | yassine | :) |
| 01:13.04 | yassine | its 3 am at your place too ? |
| 01:14.01 | Uviz | No, 9 PM. :) |
| 01:14.01 | yassine | you lucky |
| 01:14.01 | yassine | okay guys good night |
| 01:14.02 | Uviz | G'night. |
| 01:14.02 | jbalint | see you |
| 01:14.17 | yassine | thanks jbalint for the help today :) |
| 01:14.27 | jbalint | Ok. |
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| 01:50.31 | Uviz | ucsd hu'! |
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| 02:21.54 | Uviz | Why is it that most "Vaigra" spams I get, depict a young couple for their advertisement. Do young people too suffer from penile dysfunction? |
| 02:21.58 | Uviz | Argh! |
| 02:22.06 | lyken | lolz |
| 02:22.23 | Uviz | You know, the worst kind type of spam is the ones about penis augmentation. |
| 02:22.37 | Uviz | I'm like, DUDE! I'm just happy with what I have. |
| 02:23.20 | Uviz | That's when I just dump every e-mail, good or bad, they all go into trash and deleted right away -- everyone would suffer. |
| 02:23.38 | lyken | lol |
| 02:24.51 | Uviz | Back to Tomcat -- I just realize I suck at deployment. Every single application would regurtitate a trail of exceptions. |
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| 08:07.35 | lyken | lolz |
| 08:07.39 | lyken | why are you still awake? |
| 08:14.13 | jasonb | Well, writing. |
| 08:15.04 | jasonb | I *try* to get some things finished and off to the editor by the end of each weekend, although I usually fail to actually do it. |
| 08:15.54 | lyken | hehe, well ill be the voice in your head to get something happening |
| 08:15.54 | lyken | hehe |
| 08:16.31 | jasonb | I'm writing, and working on it a lot, but it's so huge that I think I'm nearly finished with a chapter and then it takes me an additional 4 weeks.. |
| 08:16.58 | jasonb | That's consistenly happening just as it did when we wrote the first edition. |
| 08:17.51 | lyken | heh |
| 08:18.52 | jasonb | I'm still encouraged by lots of reviews I read by the readers of the first edition saying how much they appreciated the verbose text about why something was good or why it wasn't good. They were pretty pleased to finally get some good english explanations for things that were perplexing. |
| 08:19.30 | lyken | yer |
| 08:19.38 | lyken | also.. |
| 08:19.46 | lyken | need to put in a postgres section if its not already there :) |
| 08:20.44 | jasonb | I also often caught myself telling people "well, I did explain this in the book.." and then when I went back and looked at the section where I thought I wrote it, it wasn't there. It turned out that I only thought I wrote it in there, and I really didn't for lack of time, so the reader didn't get sufficient warning about certain things.. This time I'm filling a bunch of that in. |
| 08:21.13 | lyken | cools |
| 08:21.27 | jasonb | It's just time consuming.. all of it, really. |
| 08:22.41 | jasonb | I'd love to put in some detailed text about each popular database people could use with Tomcat.. yes, even including MySQL. :) But, again, there just isn't time. |
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| 08:24.12 | jasonb | I don't even have time to write text about all of the Tomcat features I think should be written about in the book, let alone all the popular permutations of using Tomcat with another popular piece of software like the databases.. |
| 08:24.15 | jasonb | Hi yassine. |
| 08:24.25 | yassine | hi jasonb :) |
| 08:24.32 | jasonb | yassine: I saw lyken today! |
| 08:24.38 | yassine | woow |
| 08:24.51 | jasonb | yassine: He's like 7 feet 5 inches tall or something.. |
| 08:24.51 | yassine | where ? |
| 08:24.57 | yassine | lol |
| 08:25.42 | jasonb | yassine: Like 5 meters tall.. :) |
| 08:25.55 | yassine | wow thats too much |
| 08:26.08 | jasonb | Just kidding. He's "normal" height. :) |
| 08:26.42 | jasonb | I'm sure he codes like he's that tall though! |
| 08:26.42 | yassine | 7 feet = 2.1336 m |
| 08:26.52 | yassine | hihi |
| 08:27.01 | yassine | i hope you both enjoyed |
| 08:27.08 | jasonb | Yeah, we had fun. |
| 08:27.19 | yassine | great :) |
| 08:27.32 | yassine | im going to take a shower and get back here |
| 08:27.37 | jasonb | Okay. |
| 08:27.37 | yassine | i just wake up |
| 08:27.42 | jasonb | I'm headed to bed soon. |
| 08:27.46 | jasonb | Good morning! |
| 08:27.51 | yassine | :) |
| 08:31.12 | odin_ | what is the book about? |
| 08:32.51 | jasonb | Uhh.. Tomcat! |
| 08:33.21 | lyken | jasonb: well there is stuff in there about mysql realms |
| 08:33.26 | lyken | only fair to add pg realms :) |
| 08:34.02 | jasonb | lyken: I could swear there's a little stuff in there about postgres. There's really not much in there about mysql either. |
| 08:34.30 | lyken | hehe |
| 08:34.33 | lyken | aights |
| 08:34.35 | lyken | well i needa sleep |
| 08:34.43 | lyken | riding across the bay in the morning |
| 08:35.27 | jasonb | Okay.. have a good sleep! |
| 08:35.59 | lyken | ill try :) |
| 08:36.08 | jasonb | Cheers. |
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| 08:47.20 | ferrox | can a tomcat server (very generally speeking) perform the same functions as a lotus domino webserver? |
| 08:51.01 | jasonb | Sure. |
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| 08:51.22 | yassine | good night lyken :) |
| 08:51.34 | harpoon | greetings |
| 08:51.42 | yassine | moin harpoon |
| 08:51.59 | harpoon | hi yassine |
| 08:52.14 | yassine | whats your local time jasonb ? |
| 08:52.35 | ferrox | looking at $18000 just for vap licences to ibm |
| 08:52.41 | jasonb | yassine: 1:52am. |
| 08:52.55 | yassine | ohh its late |
| 08:53.00 | jasonb | ferrox: Don't pay for lotus domino.. ugh. |
| 08:53.07 | jasonb | yassine: Very. I need to go to bed. |
| 08:53.34 | ferrox | that's the platform development wants to use |
| 08:53.53 | yassine | okay so have a good night im moving to work here my day just starts |
| 08:53.59 | yassine | harpoon, bis nachher ;) |
| 08:54.01 | jasonb | ferrox: Well development is off their rocker then! |
| 08:54.24 | harpoon | i've had just started to work |
| 08:54.44 | jasonb | yassine: Thanks. See ya! |
| 08:54.55 | harpoon | jasonb: have a good night |
| 08:55.57 | jasonb | ooh, a new article on XSS attacks.. http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=603037&rl=1\ |
| 08:56.04 | jasonb | http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=603037&rl=1 |
| 08:56.16 | jasonb | harpoon: Thanks! |
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| 09:45.17 | litap1985 | Anybody here uses Netbeans IDE |
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| 10:11.55 | yassinework | hi * |
| 10:18.51 | litap1985 | yassinework, have u ever used the netbeans IDE |
| 10:19.11 | yassinework | litap1985, i just tried it some couple of times :s |
| 10:19.32 | yassinework | do you have good experience with it ? |
| 10:19.52 | litap1985 | yassinework, i am unable to put up my geronimo server onto it |
| 10:20.26 | yassinework | ahh geronimo that biest im sorry i can't help you with that :s |
| 10:20.26 | litap1985 | yassinework, no i am a newbie to it |
| 10:21.01 | yassinework | mhh never worked with geronimo and netbeans too (just installed them a couple of times but nothing more ) |
| 10:21.22 | litap1985 | yassinework, well thats fine... |
| 10:33.15 | harpoon | i've used netbeans three times at all |
| 10:33.37 | harpoon | i went back to eclipse every time pretty soon |
| 10:43.07 | yassinework | lol |
| 10:43.50 | yassinework | harpoon, do you happen to have an idea how i could redirect a post request to a page that only supports GET ? |
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| 10:47.59 | harpoon | yassinework: no i haven't |
| 10:48.13 | yassinework | me neither :) |
| 10:48.17 | harpoon | hehehe |
| 10:49.04 | yassinework | ich gehe essen vieleicht hilf es |
| 10:49.09 | yassinework | bis denne |
| 10:51.31 | harpoon | bye |
| 11:03.27 | litap1985 | yassinework, why do u want to do it |
| 11:40.54 | yassinework | litap1985, i need to redirect a user in case a log in works to some static contents on an other server |
| 11:45.20 | litap1985 | yassinework, can it be done by putting a script into your login page |
| 11:48.00 | yassinework | litap1985, you mean i kind of meta redirection ? |
| 11:48.34 | litap1985 | yassinework, yes... will it work for ur problem? |
| 11:49.30 | yassinework | i guess that should do the job i only need to create that optionally if login true print meta data into the response other wise back to log in page |
| 11:52.45 | litap1985 | yassinework, are u making an xhr for your login page to come through |
| 11:53.00 | yassinework | xhr ? |
| 11:53.11 | litap1985 | xhr request |
| 11:53.21 | litap1985 | xmlhttprequest |
| 11:54.31 | yassinework | no |
| 11:55.06 | yassinework | in only have my contents on differnt servers static contents on apache and dynamic on tomcat |
| 11:55.23 | yassinework | so i need to authenticate from tomcat and send back to apache |
| 11:55.36 | litap1985 | oh i see |
| 11:58.44 | yassinework | i hope this will do the job hres.addHeader("location","http://apacheserver/"); |
| 12:25.31 | Uviz | yassinework, How about response.sendRedirect(...);? |
| 12:25.46 | Uviz | I gotta run to work... :( |
| 12:26.01 | yassinework | ohh ok see you later Uviz |
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| 13:14.37 | litap1985 | yassinework, did u try sendRedirect() |
| 13:14.49 | yassinework | yes it works fine |
| 13:15.27 | yassinework | Uviz, merci thansk and Danke ... ;) |
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| 14:25.13 | Tal | I have a problem starting tomcat, I get parsing errors on the default web.xml |
| 14:48.39 | Tal | N.m, solved |
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| 15:09.21 | a_l_e | hello, i'm trying out the tomcat/webservices from the ibm tutorial and: |
| 15:09.38 | a_l_e | a/ i've made a change to an example to meet the path on my machine |
| 15:09.46 | a_l_e | b/ it doesn't compile |
| 15:09.57 | a_l_e | c/ i've no backup of the original example |
| 15:10.37 | a_l_e | d/ the download link from ibm doesn't bring me to the examples any more (no, i don't know why; yes i've tried several times) |
| 15:11.15 | a_l_e | e/ i don't know which values i should put in axis.home and tomcat.home |
| 15:11.17 | yassinework | a_l_e, can you give me the url ? |
| 15:11.20 | yassinework | of the tut |
| 15:11.44 | a_l_e | the tutorial is here https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-tomcat/ |
| 15:12.00 | a_l_e | yassinework: i can put my version of the build.xml on line... |
| 15:12.33 | yassinework | oups : Authorization Required |
| 15:12.40 | a_l_e | ... http://ideeale.free.fr/tmp/build.xml |
| 15:13.12 | yassinework | est ce que tu peut copier toute la page et la pose ds pastbin.ca stp ? |
| 15:13.14 | a_l_e | yassinework: yes, you need an account @ developperworks |
| 15:13.28 | a_l_e | yassinework: la page du manuel? |
| 15:13.31 | yassinework | oui |
| 15:13.40 | yassinework | si c possible bien sure |
| 15:14.45 | a_l_e | http://ideeale.free.fr/tmp/j-tomcat-a4.pdf |
| 15:15.57 | yassinework | a_l_e, i think i have somthing for you : <property name="axis.home" location="/usr/local/tomcat/"/> |
| 15:16.31 | a_l_e | (it would at the pages 20 and 21) |
| 15:16.48 | yassinework | a_l_e, i think that should points to the axis home |
| 15:17.07 | a_l_e | /home/ale/docs/src/tomcat/example/step3/client/build.xml:23: /usr/local/tomcat/lib not found. |
| 15:17.16 | yassinework | which is afaik in your case /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/axis |
| 15:17.36 | yassinework | assuming you deployed your axis into tomcat |
| 15:17.53 | a_l_e | /home/ale/docs/src/tomcat/example/step3/client/build.xml:23: /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/axis/lib not found. |
| 15:18.17 | yassinework | mhh |
| 15:18.27 | yassinework | can you search for axis |
| 15:18.29 | a_l_e | ... /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/axis/ is where axis il located |
| 15:18.38 | yassinework | so its located there ? |
| 15:18.45 | a_l_e | yes and it works! |
| 15:18.49 | yassinework | mhh |
| 15:18.59 | yassinework | did you moved its library somewhere else ? |
| 15:19.17 | yassinework | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.33 | a_l_e | http://localhost:8080/axis/ shows everything ok. |
| 15:19.57 | yassinework | a_l_e, but that will works also if the libs are located in common/lib |
| 15:19.58 | a_l_e | the validation links seems ok |
| 15:20.10 | yassinework | so im wondering if you moved the libraries there ? |
| 15:20.36 | a_l_e | the libs are in WEB-INF/lib |
| 15:21.30 | yassinework | strange |
| 15:21.52 | yassinework | so your axis.home is indeed /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/axis/ |
| 15:22.26 | a_l_e | "ln -s /WEB-INF/lin ." in ./webaps/axis/ doesn't change the situation :-( |
| 15:22.34 | a_l_e | "ln -s /WEB-INF/lib ." in ./webaps/axis/ doesn't change the situation :-( |
| 15:23.13 | yassinework | which error you do gets ? |
| 15:24.53 | a_l_e | it changes when i change the location... but most of them are either |
| 15:25.01 | a_l_e | /home/ale/docs/src/tomcat/example/step3/client/build.xml:23: /usr/local/tomcat/lib not found. |
| 15:25.05 | a_l_e | /home/ale/docs/src/tomcat/example/step3/client/build.xml:23: /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/axis/lib not found. |
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| 15:25.17 | a_l_e | /home/ale/docs/src/tomcat/example/step3/client/build.xml:22: /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/axis/WEB-INF/webapps/axis/WEB-INF/lib not found. |
| 15:25.27 | a_l_e | and BUILD FAILED on top of it |
| 15:26.48 | a_l_e | BUILD SUCCESSFUL!!! |
| 15:27.12 | a_l_e | yassinework: ok, sorted out... there was (probably) an error on <fileset dir="${axis.home}/WEB-INF/lib"> |
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| 15:27.31 | a_l_e | which was " <fileset dir="${axis.home}/webapps/axis/WEB-INF/lib">" |
| 15:27.49 | a_l_e | (mmmh, sortd out... now it compiled... let's see if it works :-) |
| 15:28.11 | a_l_e | ... tu peux me tenir les pouces si t'en a le temps :-) |
| 15:30.06 | yassinework | :) |
| 15:30.47 | a_l_e | ok, encore une petite correction dans le class_path... et maintenant ça a marché! |
| 15:31.05 | a_l_e | merci bien pour le support moral et matériel :-) |
| 15:31.06 | yassinework | congratulations |
| 15:31.23 | yassinework | est ce que je peut grade la pdf que tu ma passe ? |
| 15:32.27 | a_l_e | je crois que oui... peut-etre il ne faut pas trop le passer autour: je ne sais pas s'il y a mon nom dedans! |
| 15:32.46 | yassinework | okay merci |
| 15:32.56 | yassinework | tu viens d 'ou en faite ? |
| 15:33.08 | yassinework | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.12 | a_l_e | j'habite zurich, en suisse |
| 15:33.26 | yassinework | ahh alors tu parle alleman aussi ? |
| 15:34.24 | a_l_e | moins bien que le français, mais oui (et en tout cas je suis de langue maternelle italienne... à défaut d'avoir fait le tour du monde, j'ai fait le tour de suisse) |
| 15:34.48 | yassinework | ahh okay |
| 15:36.42 | a_l_e | voilà, et maintenant je termine le manuel et j'essaye de faire quelque chose d'un peu plus sérieux! |
| 15:38.58 | yassinework | moi aussi je suis de langue maternelle (arabo/francais) et a force de faire le tour du monde je parlle allemand un peut de ts :) |
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| 16:23.14 | eNEMY^x | Im getting a ERROR - Servlet.service() for servlet flowServlet threw exception |
| 16:23.15 | eNEMY^x | java.lang.NullPointerException |
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| 16:23.31 | eNEMY^x | while trying to post to a servlet using perl/lwp..... |
| 16:24.16 | eNEMY^x | Anyone have any good qlues on how I can actually debug this on tomcat? I`ve tested my perl script and checked that it actually posts the stuff it should and also that the cookies are correctly set etc. |
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| 16:37.06 | eNEMY^x | I`m getting http://pastebin.ca/131675 this error while trying to post some data to a servlet from a perl script with lwp. I`ve checked that the perl script has the correct cookies set and that the post actually happens. |
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| 17:16.30 | yassinework | c u later all |
| 17:29.00 | jbalint | bye |
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| 18:42.12 | Darwin | hi, just wanted to ask about the best way to directly redirect a user to a servlet when he accesses to / directory. there are various ways to do so, but what is the best way to do it? |
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| 19:00.36 | rhizmoe | from within tomcat? |
| 19:01.09 | rhizmoe | i'm not a developer, but i think it'd be a <servlet-mapping> in web.xml |
| 19:01.43 | rhizmoe | in apache/mod_jk you'd do a JkMount /* <thingy> |
| 19:06.22 | Darwin | is it a good idea to put a index.jsp into the directory which contains something like <jsp:forward page="http://server/servlet/startApp " /> ? I'd like to have a solution which is supported by all browsers |
| 19:09.10 | rhizmoe | i don't know |
| 19:26.14 | yassine | Darwin, hresp.setRedirect() |
| 19:26.31 | yassine | or somthing like that works for me |
| 19:27.22 | Darwin | am now using something like that |
| 19:27.25 | Darwin | <% response.sendRedirect("http://server/servlet/startMain"); %> |
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| 20:11.24 | jaye | Hi Everyone, tomcat feels a bit sluggish for the hardware I have it on, is there a way to increase the number of threads or something like that to be able to serve content quicker? |
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| 21:07.44 | yassine | no one here guys ? |
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| 21:30.03 | longbeach | hey |
| 21:31.50 | longbeach | i have a problem with apache i think. I have some links who point to an URL like this : http://blabla:81/joe. Sometimes the links omit the port number. http://blabla/joe, resulting in an invalid URL. I do not know if the problem is in the Apache configuration but you have any idea/ suggestion that could help, i would like to hear it :) |
| 21:32.32 | swente | longbeach: how about omitting the server in the url? |
| 21:33.19 | longbeach | how ? we use Apache as a front end for Weblogic |
| 21:34.02 | yassine | how are you connecting them ? |
| 21:36.31 | longbeach | the links ? |
| 21:40.16 | yassine | no the connectors |
| 21:40.56 | yassine | for example : (Apache Httpd) <->(mod_jk) <-> (Tomcat) |
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| 21:46.12 | aaron_ | Hi |
| 21:51.27 | longbeach | i could paste httpd.conf |
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| 23:41.11 | Bengel | hi anybody out there? |
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| 23:41.51 | Bengel | hi |
| 23:41.56 | yassine | hi Bengel, |
| 23:42.18 | Bengel | do you know anything about tomcat clustering? |
| 23:43.04 | yassine | no i dont sorry |
| 23:43.28 | Bengel | but i have another question |
| 23:43.50 | Bengel | how can i forward a complete request,response to another server? |
| 23:46.41 | yassine | hresp.sendRedirectnewServerUrl() |
| 23:46.49 | yassine | hresp.sendRedirect(newServerUr() |
| 23:47.08 | yassine | hresp.sendRedirect(newServerURL); |
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| 23:47.39 | yassine | where hresp is an object of HttpServletResponse |
| 23:47.53 | redeeman | hello |
| 23:48.28 | yassine | Bengel, sorry i missunderstand you you main chainig requests ? |
| 23:48.47 | yassine | Bengel, sorry i missunderstand you you main chaining requests ? |
| 23:48.59 | yassine | hi redeeman |
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| 23:56.20 | redeeman | i have been told about an option in tomcat |
| 23:56.40 | redeeman | to enable it to compile the jsp files at startup |
| 23:56.47 | redeeman | how do i enable that? |
| 23:58.33 | jasonb | redeeman: Read the Java Servlet Specification.. search for "load-on-startup". |