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| 05:31.47 | Bhaal | Okeys guys, Ive just setup tomcat on a server, whats the default user/pass for the admin/manager sections on the server? |
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| 08:04.41 | agony_aunt | hi i need somehelp..its a newbie question..but i just cant get it up and running, i make my own folder in webapps and store the classes in WEB-INF but still its gives a 404 not found can someone help me please |
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| 11:44.23 | wolf359 | my build for the jk2 2.0.2 connector fails, since it seems to require a util directory which is not present in the tarball |
| 11:44.40 | wolf359 | anybody have any idea what going wrong? |
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| 12:26.36 | segfault- | wolf359: have a build.xml ? |
| 12:26.48 | wolf359 | sure, a bunch |
| 12:27.15 | segfault- | do you build the app ? |
| 12:27.28 | segfault- | or looked into the build.xml |
| 12:27.35 | wolf359 | my first idea was to just build the jk2 connector |
| 12:28.01 | wolf359 | using just ant on a "clean" download of the connectors package |
| 12:28.30 | wolf359 | that didn't work, because a bunch of stuff seemed to be missing (util packages appearantly) |
| 12:28.37 | wolf359 | so, I got everything from cvs |
| 12:28.51 | wolf359 | so now I *do* have util |
| 12:28.53 | segfault- | in the meaning, few jars you might put in lib/ ? |
| 12:29.10 | wolf359 | i don't understand |
| 12:29.25 | segfault- | the utils come in jar format ? |
| 12:29.48 | wolf359 | it seems like it, there's a lot of tomcat distributions for instance |
| 12:30.00 | wolf359 | including their jars, I believe |
| 12:30.37 | segfault- | i have no clue, asked in #java ? |
| 12:30.56 | wolf359 | it's just that the entire build seems to break |
| 12:31.14 | segfault- | yeah but resolvable ;) |
| 12:31.26 | wolf359 | and since you *have* to build the jk2 connector :( |
| 12:31.52 | wolf359 | hwo come there's no binary distr for jk2? |
| 12:31.56 | segfault- | give me url ill check (not for cvs version pls) |
| 12:32.31 | wolf359 | URL? for source code? |
| 12:33.21 | segfault- | yeah or traball archive |
| 12:33.57 | segfault- | tar* |
| 12:35.13 | wolf359 | http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk2/release/v2.0.2/src/ |
| 12:36.57 | wolf359 | that release just bombs on me |
| 12:37.15 | wolf359 | i have apache2 and tomcat4.1 btw |
| 12:38.22 | sobel | i got my jk and jk2 connectors packaged with SuSE 8.2 |
| 12:38.38 | wolf359 | :( |
| 12:39.09 | wolf359 | redhat 8 |
| 12:39.15 | sobel | bummer |
| 12:39.32 | wolf359 | it has the jk connector, but i need the jk2 functionality |
| 12:39.41 | sobel | which is what? |
| 12:39.57 | sobel | i just switched to jk because i couldn't make jk2 do session affinity |
| 12:39.58 | wolf359 | well, jk2 is the successor of jk |
| 12:40.10 | sobel | i know, but what functionality are you talking about? |
| 12:40.20 | sobel | that jk2 does but jk doesn't |
| 12:40.21 | wolf359 | and it has some monitoring ability on the mappings |
| 12:40.33 | wolf359 | the status worker if that says anything? |
| 12:40.42 | wolf359 | I don't even know if it'll help... |
| 12:41.03 | wolf359 | but my mappings aren't always going through |
| 12:41.27 | wolf359 | I'm getting a MAPPING request error that I've been stuck on for 2 days now (!) |
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| 12:42.12 | nakeee | hey |
| 12:42.37 | nakeee | I tried few versions of tomcat but non worked well:/ |
| 12:42.46 | segfault- | hello nakeee |
| 12:43.06 | nakeee | any toturial for simpletons like me explaning how to use tomcat? |
| 12:43.23 | segfault- | look at build.xml |
| 12:43.37 | wolf359 | yes |
| 12:44.05 | segfault- | wolf359: give url for util now |
| 12:45.30 | wolf359 | well, I didn't quite get that either, but... |
| 12:46.02 | wolf359 | if you get the cvs version, in *that* build file, there's a "download" target that seems to get stuff into util |
| 12:46.48 | wolf359 | the source like it's presented is probably as useless to you as it was to me... |
| 12:47.25 | segfault- | the tarball is just messed up |
| 12:47.36 | wolf359 | yeah, I know! |
| 12:47.53 | segfault- | odd tarballs contains util ? |
| 12:47.55 | wolf359 | and since there no binary distribution, us mere mortals get stuck |
| 12:48.06 | wolf359 | just the dir |
| 12:48.23 | wolf359 | what do you mean "odd"? |
| 12:48.32 | segfault- | http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/coyote/release/v1.0-rc2/tomcat-util.jar |
| 12:48.47 | segfault- | (first google) |
| 12:48.56 | segfault- | i'm unsure it's the right tool |
| 12:49.03 | segfault- | but you can find it ;) |
| 12:49.12 | nakeee | I don't get why people think this XML format is human readble |
| 12:49.16 | segfault- | http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/coyote/release/v1.0-rc2/ |
| 12:49.18 | nakeee | it's so horribly messy |
| 12:49.25 | segfault- | it is |
| 12:49.27 | segfault- | nakeee |
| 12:49.46 | nakeee | is messy or is human readble?:) |
| 12:50.34 | segfault- | http://silara.no-ip.info/~gipsi/build.txt |
| 12:51.19 | segfault- | if you think this is unreadable |
| 12:51.24 | segfault- | stop servlet work |
| 12:51.33 | wolf359 | ;) |
| 12:51.50 | wolf359 | or check out "make" files |
| 12:52.00 | wolf359 | easy to see why they went for xml |
| 12:52.02 | segfault- | rahhhhhh nan never |
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| 12:53.18 | kiuma | lo ppl |
| 12:56.46 | wolf359 | hi |
| 12:57.40 | segfault- | makefiles kill me for java progs |
| 12:58.06 | segfault- | (many assholes include full path to their libs and mess the whole tarball at many time) |
| 13:04.02 | wolf359 | mmm... it seems to be doing something now |
| 13:05.51 | segfault- | wolf359 |
| 13:06.00 | wolf359 | yes? |
| 13:06.03 | segfault- | coyote release contain as much all things |
| 13:06.09 | segfault- | HTTP/1.1 protocol handler |
| 13:06.09 | segfault- | JK 2 protocol handler, with support for AJP 1.3 and JNI workers |
| 13:06.09 | segfault- | An adapter for Tomcat 3.3.x |
| 13:06.09 | segfault- | An adapter for Tomcat 4.0.x |
| 13:06.14 | wolf359 | including .so's? |
| 13:06.24 | segfault- | i bet |
| 13:06.27 | segfault- | check the page |
| 13:06.30 | wolf359 | got a url? |
| 13:06.40 | segfault- | look at your privates :) |
| 13:07.51 | nakeee | wjat does message No Context configured to process this request means? |
| 13:08.47 | segfault- | whole error message please |
| 13:09.10 | nakeee | doesn't the default context suppose to be to /? |
| 13:09.56 | segfault- | how i can answer without any infos ? |
| 13:11.05 | wolf359 | nakeee, if there's a config error, tomcat will drop the context as well |
| 13:11.06 | kiuma | anyone experienced in jsp precompilation today ? |
| 13:11.19 | wolf359 | you might have a problem in your web.xml file for instance |
| 13:11.29 | wolf359 | this will make the "context" unavailable |
| 13:11.39 | wolf359 | usually, you find some good info in your logs |
| 13:11.47 | nakeee | MAPPING configuration error for req |
| 13:11.48 | nakeee | uest URI /protonet/adv_search.jsp |
| 13:11.54 | nakeee | is what I see in the log |
| 13:12.18 | wolf359 | see, there's some mapping going wrong, so tomcat kicks the entire context out of existence |
| 13:14.45 | nakeee | wolf359 how can i find which mapping cause the problem? |
| 13:14.59 | wolf359 | elimination |
| 13:15.46 | wolf359 | try and subtract mappings, untill you get a context going (in essence, you get some response from tomcat) |
| 13:16.24 | wolf359 | see if previous mappings worked |
| 13:16.34 | segfault- | http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=jsp+precompilation&meta= |
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| 13:20.34 | svoy | hi peop'le |
| 13:21.29 | wolf359 | hi |
| 13:21.52 | svoy | nknow anyone if can use PHP on TOMCAT |
| 13:22.07 | svoy | nknow anyone if can I use PHP on TOMCAT |
| 13:22.12 | wolf359 | what do you mean *on* tomcat? |
| 13:22.53 | svoy | I have server Tomcat and i want to try PHP... it' works or not? |
| 13:23.27 | nakeee | svoy you can use apache together with tomcat |
| 13:23.31 | wolf359 | well, you can combine php with j2ee on one website, if that's what you need |
| 13:23.54 | nakeee | and let apache handle the php and pass jsp things to tomcat |
| 13:23.57 | wolf359 | but i don't believe tomcat itself will serve (parsed) php pages |
| 13:24.05 | wolf359 | exactly nakee |
| 13:24.13 | svoy | OK thanks! |
| 13:24.22 | wolf359 | but you do need to put apache in front! |
| 13:25.12 | svoy | Please teel me i don' want install new server what i need to do for work with PHP |
| 13:25.14 | svoy | ?? |
| 13:26.00 | wolf359 | well, you don't have to remove tomcat, just install apache next to it |
| 13:26.21 | svoy | OK thanks a lot!!!!! |
| 13:26.24 | svoy | ciao |
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| 13:26.26 | wolf359 | have apache handle all things on port 80 and have it delegate stuff to tomcat |
| 13:26.34 | wolf359 | mmm |
| 13:26.42 | nakeee | a Realm store all the tomcat configuration? |
| 13:26.46 | wolf359 | he's in for the ride ;) |
| 13:27.12 | kiuma | where is a channel i can ask 4 jsp questions ? |
| 13:27.36 | wolf359 | www.javaranch.com is pretty good if you have the time |
| 13:33.16 | nakeee | if I had one server class I don't need to use virtual host right? |
| 13:34.09 | wolf359 | hmmm |
| 13:36.04 | wolf359 | from the docs: At least one Host is required, and one of the nested Hosts MUST have a name that matches the name specified for the defaultHost attribute |
| 13:36.20 | segfault- | you don't have to use port 80 for tomcat |
| 13:36.29 | segfault- | if you want both apache & tomcat |
| 13:36.38 | wolf359 | have you looked at the reference manual nakee? |
| 13:37.17 | nakeee | yea, but for some reason I really don't understand them |
| 13:37.28 | segfault- | with the module proxypass |
| 13:37.30 | segfault- | for apache |
| 13:38.16 | segfault- | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.16 | segfault- | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.16 | segfault- | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.16 | segfault- | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.16 | segfault- | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.17 | segfault- | ProxyPass /tomcat/ http://127.0.0.1:7112/ |
| 13:38.20 | wolf359 | with an example server.xml file next to it, it's doable |
| 13:38.26 | segfault- | and then you will be done |
| 13:38.56 | segfault- | (in my example i use 7112) |
| 13:40.15 | nakeee | segfault- but that would only work if you use pure jsp no?I mean if you use mixed php/jsp you can't just proxy everything to the tomcat |
| 13:41.08 | wolf359 | svoy is gone if you haven't noticed... |
| 13:45.40 | nakeee | if I use jkMount from apache |
| 13:45.57 | nakeee | I need to run tomcat in tomcat-apache or tomcat standalone? |
| 13:46.53 | segfault- | nakeee: it's a mapping to the server |
| 13:46.59 | segfault- | why the tomcat will not run |
| 13:47.07 | segfault- | just virtually mapped to / |
| 13:47.19 | segfault- | tomcat will handle request as normally |
| 13:47.41 | nakeee | I want apache to use tomcat to for its servlet container |
| 13:47.59 | nakeee | and that every jsp request would be proccessed by tomcat |
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| 13:49.05 | kiuma | i've listened ppl saying that jetty is faster than tomcat, what r the advantages of T over jetty ? |
| 13:49.34 | wolf359 | tomcat is the reference implementation |
| 13:49.48 | wolf359 | so you might be a bit safer as far as implementation is concerned |
| 13:49.51 | wolf359 | my 2 cents |
| 13:50.01 | kiuma | here it is |
| 13:50.04 | tang^ | I'l second wolf359's response |
| 13:50.44 | kiuma | is jetty "really" faster than tomcat?? |
| 13:50.57 | wolf359 | try it ;) |
| 13:51.03 | kiuma | 4 a human i mean |
| 13:51.06 | kiuma | ok |
| 13:51.09 | wolf359 | it usually depends on many many factors |
| 13:51.27 | wolf359 | your application not the least |
| 13:51.44 | wolf359 | plus, stuff like system resources might be important to you as well |
| 13:52.17 | kiuma | i use in bundle with jboss |
| 13:52.34 | wolf359 | well, do you use EJB's and such? |
| 13:53.19 | kiuma | yes and hibernate and jsp and much more |
| 13:54.52 | wolf359 | well, then a fully featured container is important for you obviously |
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| 13:55.14 | wolf359 | maybe more even than reference implementations |
| 13:58.10 | IRCMonkey | Hi, do you know what is the best to acces to a properties file (configuration) in a webapp with Tomcat ? We actually use getResourceAsStream to get it but I'm not sure this is the good way to do it. |
| 14:03.26 | wolf359 | well, you could use getContext.getRealpath(..) from with your app |
| 14:03.33 | wolf359 | I find this to be very reliable |
| 14:03.50 | wolf359 | it locks the location relative to the app |
| 14:04.08 | wolf359 | and get your properties from that |
| 14:05.30 | IRCMonkey | ok I'll try it, thx |
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| 14:11.59 | Hellaenergy | IRCMonkey: Make up a new nick ;) |
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| 14:19.52 | nakeee | haa |
| 14:19.54 | nakeee | it's running |
| 14:20.15 | nakeee | now everytime I try to get a jsp I get an empty page |
| 14:20.29 | nakeee | the request is send to the tomcat according to the log |
| 14:25.27 | wolf359 | error in page? |
| 14:25.42 | nakeee | no nothing just a blank page |
| 14:25.48 | wolf359 | try a *very* simple jsp page |
| 14:26.10 | nakeee | hmm weird it gives me a blank page even when the page I entered does not exist |
| 14:30.43 | nakeee | 2003-07-31 17:30:19 StandardEngine[Standalone]: Mapping server name 'protodev.cs |
| 14:30.50 | nakeee | 2003-07-31 17:30:19 StandardEngine[Standalone]: Trying a direct match |
| 14:30.55 | nakeee | 2003-07-31 17:30:19 StandardEngine[Standalone]: Trying the default host |
| 14:31.10 | nakeee | that what I get after I make the debug level up |
| 14:51.06 | aharth | when i access a file from within a servlet, where's the path for that file usually? |
| 14:52.40 | sobel | use absolute pathnames |
| 14:54.33 | nakeee | geeezzzz it just won't work! |
| 14:54.43 | aharth | relative path would be more elegant imho but it doesn't seem to work. getRealPath()? |
| 14:58.10 | sobel | i've done it before, i'll see if i can dig it out.. |
| 14:58.25 | sobel | there's a servlet call to get the context's absolute path |
| 14:59.50 | nakeee | can someone send me a working tomcat configuration? |
| 14:59.58 | Hellaenergy | nakeee: You could try stopping tomcat and gettin rid of your work/Standalone/webapp dir and restarting |
| 14:59.58 | nakeee | just something I'll be able to compare with? |
| 15:00.11 | aharth | sobel: would be great, the solution i have right now is quite unstable |
| 15:00.25 | aharth | nakeee: what tomcat version? |
| 15:00.26 | Hellaenergy | nakeee: One came with tomcat you downloaded ;) |
| 15:00.37 | nakeee | 4.1.1 |
| 15:00.39 | sobel | for now you can just hardcode the correct path prefix |
| 15:01.35 | nakeee | I tried to connect to tomcat on port 8080 that gives me an empty page as well |
| 15:02.56 | aharth | sobel: good idea, will do that as quick fix |
| 15:03.23 | aharth | nakeee: have 4.1.24 here, maybe you should upgrade :) |
| 15:03.55 | nakeee | thanks |
| 15:04.04 | nakeee | I upgraded 3 times in the last 2 month |
| 15:07.28 | nakeee | haa |
| 15:07.35 | nakeee | you do have to have a virtual host |
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| 15:15.07 | nakeee | back to the old context problem again:) |
| 15:16.29 | nakeee | aharth in the file you send me you didn't define any context does it work with out it? |
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| 15:17.43 | aharth | nakeee: it's just the debian tomcat4 standard config, works nicely |
| 15:18.47 | nakeee | oh |
| 15:18.50 | nakeee | weird |
| 15:21.19 | nakeee | I have almost identical configuration file |
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| 18:11.23 | Shaym | hello |
| 18:11.28 | Shaym | what do you think about JSP ? |
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| 18:16.52 | Hellaenergy | hi jasonb |
| 18:17.19 | jasonb | Hi Hella. |
| 18:17.44 | Shaym | Hello all |
| 18:17.49 | Shaym | what do you think about JSP ? |
| 18:17.55 | jasonb | It rocks. |
| 18:18.39 | Shaym | and template engine like Velocity or Freemarker ? |
| 18:18.54 | jasonb | blah. |
| 18:19.05 | Shaym | jasonb: can you show me some JSP piece of code |
| 18:19.15 | Shaym | just to see how you code one form |
| 18:19.22 | jasonb | Shaym: Tomcat comes with plenty of examples. |
| 18:19.23 | Shaym | a complete form |
| 18:19.34 | Shaym | your, please |
| 18:20.59 | jasonb | Shaym: If you want an example of a JSP that I wrote, have a look at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tomcat/chapter/ch06.pdf |
| 18:21.14 | jasonb | Shaym: It has 1 test jsp in it. |
| 18:21.20 | Shaym | you wrote a book, man ? |
| 18:21.25 | Shaym | whouahh |
| 18:21.37 | jasonb | Shaym: Co-wrote, but yeah. |
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| 19:51.12 | sobel | indeed, jsp rocks |
| 20:30.11 | dMacRohar | do you have the fullversion ? ;) |
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| 21:34.43 | kylev | does tomcat have a configurable/extensible URL mapper? |
| 21:35.25 | kylev | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.06 | Spline | thats in server.xml, but i'm not sure what you mean by "configurable/extensible" |
| 21:36.16 | Spline | you mean you want to write a little class that takes over the mapping? |
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| 21:37.25 | kylev | Spline: aye |
| 21:37.41 | kylev | my customers want their own URL/cookie-domain |
| 21:37.54 | kylev | but I don't want to deploy the app 14 times for 14 customers |
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| 21:38.18 | Spline | why not just give them subdirectories inside one app? |
| 21:39.32 | kylev | because it's really the same app |
| 21:40.19 | Spline | er, sounds like an argument *for* my suggestion :) |
| 21:40.21 | kylev | /foo/yadda.jsp is the same page as /bar/yadda.jsp |
| 21:40.38 | Spline | hmm |
| 21:41.02 | kylev | was hoping there was an extensible wedge |
| 21:41.07 | Spline | be careful, it might be smarter to factor out the business logic into a business layer like EJB and deploy 14 thin UI war's |
| 21:41.16 | kylev | because I'd *really* like the mappings to be externally modifiable |
| 21:41.22 | Spline | what if you end up wanting to tweak out the look and feel for each customer? |
| 21:42.03 | kylev | we do that. the app will need to be aware of the URL it was accessed on |
| 21:42.26 | Spline | which it will be if you deploy it as a separate app |
| 21:42.34 | kylev | which will cause it to change its skin |
| 21:42.39 | kylev | yes, however |
| 21:42.55 | kylev | once I hit 150 customers, deployment of the app gets, um, really bad |
| 21:43.02 | Spline | nah |
| 21:43.09 | Spline | because by then you'll start wanting to scale out |
| 21:43.24 | kylev | this is my solution: one generic app |
| 21:43.27 | Spline | you'll want to put them on multiple servers |
| 21:43.29 | kylev | that can scale greatly |
| 21:43.59 | Spline | hey brb grocery shopping |
| 21:44.01 | kylev | also, eventually, this is supposed to be a self-service app |
| 21:44.16 | kylev | so new user can sign up and access /newfoo |
| 21:44.25 | kylev | thus my mapper should be db driven |
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| 23:59.56 | vudusense | eng{bar4ka} i have a problem with tomcat and java.policy i think |