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08:40.20_sho_hey all
08:40.27_sho_have a question about overrides in tomcat
08:40.37_sho_currently, i have two conflicting versions of mysql-connector
08:40.59_sho_does the one in /common/lib automatically override the one in WEB-INF/lib?
08:41.14_sho_and if so, how can i get around that
08:44.08jkkyou can't
08:44.21_sho_jkk: ah hm. ok. ill just wholesale replace it
08:44.28jkk_sho_: well
08:44.32jkkyou can get around it
08:44.35_sho_i assume when i update the jar file, i have to restart tomcat yes?
08:45.00jkktomcat has an option to make sure that a servlet first searches WEB-INF/lib before searching up the parent classloaders
08:45.05_sho_jkk: less pain is best. :p
08:45.19_sho_really? where would that be located
08:45.22jkkat least i've seen the source code and it's an option you can pass to the WebappClassLoader
08:45.23_sho_catalina.xml?
08:45.33jkk_sho_: i have no idea, it's prolly something in server.xml
08:45.47jkkbut i don't think you want to get around it. just replace the one in /common/lib
08:45.51jkkand restart tomcat
08:46.07_sho_sounds like a plan
08:46.18jkkif you have other servlets that strongly depend on the old mysql-connector classes then recompile them
08:49.06_sho_nod
08:49.09_sho_muchas gracias jkk
08:49.21_sho_i just didnt know if it was possible to get around it or if it was wise
08:49.31_sho_and now... i know. :P
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09:04.24caskeyI'm using jk2 + apache 1.3.x and trying to send *.jsp and /servlet/* URLs to tomcat but the two obvious entries in workers2.properties just aren't doing it, the one howto on server config only discusses apache2, are there other docs/references/list archives I can search?
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16:11.42toolamahhi
16:12.20toolamahsomeone can help me?
16:15.28toolamahtnx
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17:08.54heapshallo people
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17:12.39franlHi
17:13.28franlCan I download the tomcat .tar.gz file if I want to install on Windows?  Or do I have do download the .zip file?
17:15.47franlIn other words, does the .zip file have any native Windows .exe or .dll files in it?
17:15.49find_me.zip
17:16.04franlfind_me, ok.
17:16.34heapsthey have not made a tar command for windows yet?
17:16.51franlWinZip can read .tar.gz files.  Also, I have Cygwin installed.
17:17.55franlI just looked through the .zip file and all I see is .jar, .html, .gif, and .jsp files.  I would think, I could use the .tar.gz file on Windows.
17:18.16heapssorry to be stoopid, what is Cygwin? a *nix sitting on top of windows?
17:18.32franlYes.  See http://www.cygwin.com/
17:19.08heapsokay. but i dont think i have use for it
17:19.13franlIt's a DLL that exports the UNIX system API.  They have gcc, bash, ls, cp, mv, XFree86 and hundreds of other apps ported.
17:20.28heapsfranl: go ahead and install it on Cygwin, am curious as to the result.
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17:20.54franlYeah, I have Apache running as a daemon under Cygwin.  I want to try Tomcap with it.
17:21.00franl*Tomcat
17:21.02heapsi see on the tomcat scripts it checks for Cygwin related
17:21.10franlCool.
17:21.44heapsand you dont happen to run jetspeed yet do you?
17:23.10jasonbfranl: You should be able to install and use the tar.gz under Cygwin.. and I'm pretty sure I've done that before.
17:23.35heapshi jasonb
17:23.41franljasonb, thanks.  I'm about to start it...
17:23.42jasonbhi heaps!
17:24.37jasonbfranl: I consider Cygwin a separate UNIX OS.  It works amazingly well for getting UNIX/Linux software running on top of Windows.
17:25.31heapsjasonb: good to know that, im reluctant to use it before
17:25.39jasonbfranl: As far as Java goes, there's no Java specifically made for Cygwin, so you'll have to use the regular Windows Java with Cygwin, which means some awkwardness.
17:26.06jasonbheaps: Cygwin is about the only cool thing to run on top of Windows.  Use it.. it makes the OS bearable!
17:26.11franljasonb, yeah, I've d/l'ed source packages, unpacked them, configur'ed them, did make and make install and they just work.
17:26.52heapsill have to try it one of these days, how much disk space require by Cygwin?
17:26.54franljasonb, Cygwin and NT Emacs.
17:27.09jasonbfranl: Yes.  They'll almost always work, especially linux stuff.  Cygwin is now owned by RedHat and the guys who write it are very clued.  They've really tried hard to make Windows basically source compatible with Linux.
17:27.49jasonbheaps: I haven't installed Cygwin lately so I'm not sure how much disk space it requires, but consider that it is a full UNIX, including basically everything, so that isn't going to be very small.
17:27.53franlheaps, if you don't install XFree86 (I don't), it's probably < 400 MB.
17:28.15franlBut you can pick and choose what you want.  A minimal install might be <100 MB.
17:28.41jasonbYeah, but do _not_ do a minimal install!  From that point on you'll just suffer due to missing packages
17:29.25jasonbInstall it about like you'd install a Linux distro.  The more stuff you include, the smoother things'll be.
17:29.28franlYeah.  Disk space being cheap, I install everything but XFree86 and Tetex.
17:30.14jasonbfranl: Eventually you run into packages that won't compile without the X stuff being there, when you only want to use the packages without X.. so eventually you also need X, so I suggest installing it all.
17:31.56franljasonb, yep.  On a fast network connection, the full install probably takes 30 minutes.  After that, you can do an update once every couple of weeks or so.
17:32.46franlI've got a CD with the full distro on it.  On a new machine, I install from CD, then grab the updates over the net.
17:32.48jasonbOnce you get it installed, you've got the full UNIX environment under Windows, so you can maintain it any way you like.  
17:33.53franlI even made a Windows version of the classic X 6x10 font, so my Windows desktop looks and feels a _lot_ like Linux/UNIX.
17:35.00jasonbfranl: I often fanticize about having a full Gnome desktop on top of Cygwin on top of Linux, and then just forgetting there's Windows under there.  :)
17:35.26jasonbugh.. looks like I already forgot..  "on top of Linux" should have said "on top of Windows".
17:35.46franljasonb, I've had XFree86 running under Cygwin in full-screen mode with FVWM as the window manager.  It was indistinguishable from Linux.
17:36.09franlExcept that Alt-TAB was seen by Windows. :(
17:36.29jasonbI've also tried to use Cygwin on top of Wine on top of Linux so that I could develop for Cygwin without running Windows.  So far that hasn't worked, probably because of shortcomings in wine, but I may also investigate Cygwin on Bochs on Linux.
17:37.05franlI've wondered if User Mode Linux could run on Cygwin.  But I don't have the time to play with that.
17:37.19jasonbfranl: Yeah, heh!  I've had part of that running before, like 2 years ago or so.  It was just too alpha-ish to be useful at that time, but now I'll bet it works fine.
17:37.31franlScary.
17:38.00franlWell, I just used the startup.sh script to start Tomcat from my Bash shell on Windows.  It works.
17:39.32franlBut I think I lucked out in one respect: my JAVA_HOME variable is set to c:/apps/j2sdk1.4.2 instead of /cygdrive/c/apps/j2sdk1.4.2 -- the latter would probably not have worked with Tomcat.
17:40.34jasonbYeah, Java can't understand Cygwin (including Cygwin paths).  So, it needs a regular Windows path.
17:46.19heapsthanks for those insight..am off for now
17:46.26jasonbNp.
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17:53.19aristidehello
17:53.27aristideall english ????
17:54.03aristidewho is a man ?
17:54.39aristidei need help please
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18:40.27raduhello
18:40.50radui just installed tomcat
18:40.55raduand the servlets work
18:41.02radubut when i try to run jsp's
18:41.08radui get error 500
18:41.15radudoes anybody know why>
18:41.16radu?
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18:45.27grotonhello all
18:46.52radui just installed tomcat
18:46.57raduand the servlets work
18:47.00radubut when i try to run jsp's
18:47.03radui get error 500
18:47.06radudoes anybody know why>
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19:05.18aristideanybody ?
19:06.20aristideyour adress http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tomc is not valid
19:06.26aristideyou should change it
19:07.16grotontry adding "at" at the end :)
19:08.28aristidedoes anybody ever heard of struts ?????????
19:10.46euclidesI guess that most of the people in here work with struts
19:11.12euclideswhat do you want to know about struts?
19:16.10grotoneuclides: i have a different problem... when i start ./startup.sh, i get "JAVA_HOME is not defined", but i defined it, what could be the problem?
19:17.04grotonif i do "echo $JAVA_HOME" i get "/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_02" so i wonder where is the problem, actually
19:17.53euclideswhat shell are you working on?
19:19.19grotonbash
19:19.28grotonah, maybe i need EXPORTing :) sorry
19:19.34euclidesexactly
19:19.37euclidesexport JAVA_HOME
19:19.39grotonvery sorry
19:19.54euclideslet me know if it works
19:19.58grotonok
19:21.16grotonnow it works, but this is just the first step on Linux (until now i used alweays windows+tomcat)
19:30.02aristideeuclides
19:30.07aristidecould you help me ?
19:30.28euclidesI don't know, tell me what you need first
19:30.35aristideright
19:30.36aristidecool
19:30.49aristidei work wuth jakarta struts with tomcat
19:31.28aristideand everytime a start a request tomcat says it doesn't find actionservlet
19:31.43aristidewhereas i have put all my libraries in shared ones
19:31.54aristideit' an error 503
19:32.04aristideso ?
19:33.02euclidesyou need the struts.jar in the WEB-INF/lib directory. Do you have it there?
19:34.32aristidethe directory of the app or the shared directory ?
19:34.53aristideit's in the shared
19:34.57aristidebut not in my app
19:35.19aristidesorry it' in both
19:37.18euclidesyou have a directory called webapps right?
19:37.38aristideyes
19:37.43aristideand web-inf
19:37.46aristideand lib
19:37.55aristideand struts.jar is in
19:38.26euclidesinside the webapps you have a directory where your application is located?
19:38.38aristideyes
19:38.42euclidesok
19:38.56euclidesand then you have in there the WEB-INF
19:39.00aristideyes
19:39.05euclidesthere you have the web.xml
19:39.07euclidesright?
19:39.08aristideyes
19:39.17aristideand strut-config.xml
19:39.20euclidescan you copy in here the servlet definition?
19:39.24euclidesof the web.xml
19:39.28aristideyes
19:39.33aristidei did it
19:39.36aristidei did all
19:39.44aristidei think the problem comes from tomcat
19:40.10aristidethere might be an environnment variable to change
19:40.52euclidesit says that it does not find actionservlet or ActionServlet?
19:41.12euclidesno environment variables to change
19:41.33aristideActionServlet
19:41.56aristidemoreover it doesn't work at al
19:41.57aristidel
19:42.01aristidethanks
19:42.09aristidei'll be back perhaps
19:42.38aristidei want to try with lib directory in myapp/web-inf
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19:47.18aristidenooooooo
19:47.25aristidewhere is he ?
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20:18.02litheum__i'm trying to send a file from a jsp page and i'm wondering if anyone has suggestions on how to do this efficiently.. i'm using a FileInputStream right now and using out.write() to write i guess one byte at a time.. that doesn't seem so good.
20:18.06litheum__is there a better way?
20:24.14grotonlitheum: try using the cos package at oreilly network
20:24.21litheum__ugh
20:24.22litheum__cos?
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20:29.54grotonyes, Com.Oreilly.Servlet package
20:31.19grotonhello Hella
20:32.46grotonhang: go #tupperware
20:32.58grotonsorry, wrong window :)
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21:13.45csguy314has anyone here tried tomcat 5?
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21:50.36duncanmvwhat is the difference between tomcat LE distibution and the another one?
21:58.23grotonhello duncanmv
21:58.42grotonLE means light-edition, and it has less stuff in the package
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22:49.28duncanmvthanks groton
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