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| 02:08.30 | jaaron | hello. |
| 02:09.18 | jasonb | jaaron: Hi! |
| 02:09.30 | jasonb | Oops, he left before anyone could answer him! :) |
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| 02:56.03 | Spline | ibot: Hellaenergy |
| 02:56.04 | | hellaenergy is, like, a neat idea at http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0401/hotrocks.html |
| 02:57.58 | Spline | ibot: spline |
| 02:57.59 | | it has been said that spline is at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Teaching/1999/AGraphHCI/SMAG/node5.html |
| 02:58.10 | Spline | So now we need one for jasonb |
| 02:58.42 | jasonb | Do each of us get an ibot home page? :) |
| 02:58.56 | jasonb | ibot: jasonb |
| 02:58.57 | | no idea, jasonb |
| 03:00.10 | Spline | have to teach it :) |
| 03:00.22 | Spline | I think I found your real one, thats no fun! |
| 03:05.22 | jasonb | :) msg me which one you think it is.. |
| 03:07.59 | Spline | OK I got a good one |
| 03:08.10 | Spline | ibot: jasonb is an accomplished individual at http://www.socalbass.com/jasonb.htm |
| 03:08.11 | | okay, Spline |
| 03:08.17 | Spline | lol |
| 03:08.40 | jasonb | Ugh. |
| 03:09.04 | Spline | well, now you get to figure out how to correct ibot :) |
| 03:10.01 | jasonb | ibot: jasonb is at irc://irc.freenode.net/tomcat |
| 03:10.03 | | ...but jasonb is already something else... |
| 03:10.11 | jasonb | :( |
| 03:10.49 | Spline | hint: /msg ibot elp |
| 03:10.58 | Spline | new hint: /msg ibot help |
| 03:10.59 | jasonb | elp ? :) |
| 03:11.20 | jasonb | ibot: forget jasonb |
| 03:11.20 | | i forgot jasonb, jasonb |
| 03:11.27 | jasonb | ibot: jasonb is at irc://irc.freenode.net/tomcat |
| 03:11.27 | | okay, jasonb |
| 03:11.33 | jasonb | ibot: jasonb |
| 03:11.34 | | [jasonb] at irc://irc.freenode.net/tomcat |
| 03:11.52 | jasonb | That's going to be funny when someone requests that. :) |
| 03:16.24 | Spline | ibot: no, jasonb is an attractive man at http://www.hunkmodels.com/jasonb.htm |
| 03:16.25 | | Spline: okay |
| 03:16.28 | Spline | lol |
| 03:20.49 | jasonb | Hey! |
| 03:21.36 | jasonb | That's funny since that's exactly my height & shoe size.. |
| 03:23.04 | jasonb | ibot: no, jasonb is at irc://irc.freenode.net/tomcat |
| 03:23.05 | | okay, jasonb |
| 04:09.04 | Spline | ibot: the sock calculator is a useful tool at http://www.renfro.com/consumer/Renfro/funstuff/sockcalculator/ |
| 04:09.05 | | okay, Spline |
| 04:09.15 | Spline | ibot: sock calculator |
| 04:09.16 | | hmm... sock calculator is a useful tool at http://www.renfro.com/consumer/Renfro/funstuff/sockcalculator/ |
| 04:09.42 | Spline | man, I'm going to have ibot's database as big as webcrawler's in 97 one of these days |
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| 05:58.05 | Igor01 | hi all |
| 05:59.58 | Spline | lo |
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| 09:17.18 | akb | hey all Goodafternoon. |
| 10:29.57 | mapleman | hi |
| 10:38.26 | Angus | akb: hell |
| 10:38.32 | Angus | hello, that is |
| 10:40.53 | akb | yo |
| 10:40.58 | akb | hi Angus |
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| 10:55.14 | Angus | what's up? |
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| 11:01.57 | a4akb | hi |
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| 11:56.25 | akb_ | helloo |
| 11:56.38 | akb_ | i got breaking news! |
| 11:56.45 | akb_ | jasonb_ wake up!! |
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| 12:03.01 | akb_-_ | man how many ghosts do i have here? |
| 12:06.01 | akb_-_ | one man down! |
| 12:06.06 | akb_-_ | Man Down!! |
| 12:06.21 | akb_-_ | guys what will it take to wake u all up.. |
| 12:10.14 | akb_-_ | helloOo |
| 12:13.44 | hellabot | "akb" pasted Stanford Researchers Set Internet Speed Record at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/5 |
| 12:14.23 | akb_-_ | :) |
| 12:21.07 | akb_-_ | good to see some life in here how are you PW_Wrk |
| 12:21.55 | PW_Wrk | I'm fine |
| 12:22.10 | PW_Wrk | except for the fact that I'm a work :/ |
| 12:22.23 | akb_-_ | :) |
| 12:22.26 | akb_-_ | work can be fun at times |
| 12:22.51 | PW_Wrk | huh? |
| 12:23.15 | akb_-_ | if you love your work then you can have fun at work too doing it right! |
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| 12:26.49 | akb_-_ | hey vaky |
| 12:26.51 | akb_-_ | how r u |
| 12:29.07 | vakYpollo | having fun ;) |
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| 13:12.54 | hellabot | Someone pasted HTTP Status 404 - /jsp-example at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/6 |
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| 15:35.42 | akb_ | hey |
| 15:35.46 | akb_ | how r u all? |
| 15:36.21 | akb_ | hey farmer |
| 15:36.27 | akb_ | jasonb_ u here? |
| 15:37.59 | farmer | hey |
| 15:40.10 | akb_ | hey farmer |
| 15:40.18 | akb_ | u busy ploughing freebsd? |
| 15:40.25 | akb_ | when is the first reap? |
| 15:40.25 | akb_ | ;) |
| 15:40.28 | farmer | trying to get netbeans to work |
| 15:41.00 | farmer | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: |
| 15:41.01 | farmer | gah |
| 15:41.04 | farmer | i hate this error |
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| 15:41.37 | akb_ | lol |
| 15:41.37 | akb_ | what are you using? |
| 15:41.37 | akb_ | netbeans hmm |
| 15:41.48 | akb_ | what are you importing in the import statement? |
| 15:41.58 | farmer | huh? |
| 15:42.01 | farmer | just trying to run it L:-) |
| 15:42.04 | farmer | ./runide.sh |
| 15:42.48 | akb_ | google on that error and check the api if you can |
| 15:43.16 | farmer | i know that error |
| 15:43.28 | farmer | cant find the netbeans class to run it |
| 15:43.48 | akb_ | hmm |
| 15:44.56 | akb_ | brb |
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| 16:01.50 | akb_ | hey farmer any luck |
| 16:04.51 | farmer | yeah i got it running |
| 16:04.56 | akb_ | cool |
| 16:05.00 | akb_ | what was the problem |
| 16:05.02 | farmer | but i dont see some parts of the main window |
| 16:05.03 | farmer | sucks! |
| 16:05.12 | farmer | i hate developers |
| 16:05.17 | farmer | who dont build for freebsd |
| 16:05.18 | akb_ | lol |
| 16:05.23 | farmer | ignoring assholes |
| 16:05.29 | akb_ | :P |
| 16:06.22 | farmer | weew |
| 16:06.24 | farmer | ran it again |
| 16:06.31 | farmer | now i can see everything |
| 16:06.31 | akb_ | cool |
| 16:06.35 | akb_ | nice |
| 16:06.45 | akb_ | what about those ignorant bum-holes.. |
| 16:06.47 | akb_ | :) |
| 16:07.50 | akb_ | hey that e-book url u gave me, it aint opening :`( |
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| 17:02.22 | jkk | so where can i learn more about the tomcat redesign? |
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| 17:21.54 | find_me | how do i pre-compile jsp pages |
| 17:29.01 | lalle | find_me: Why should you? |
| 17:29.01 | lalle | =) |
| 17:29.04 | lalle | yeye, bbl |
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| 17:29.43 | farmer | google died ;( |
| 17:35.19 | find_me | lalle: first hit takes a lot of time to compile the page and display. |
| 17:35.39 | find_me | lalle: i read somewhere you can pre-copile the jsp's. |
| 17:36.16 | find_me | s/copile/compile |
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| 18:33.03 | Hellaenergy | morning |
| 18:33.50 | Hellaenergy | since when is #php invite only? |
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| 18:49.28 | Hellaenergy | morning jasonb_ |
| 18:49.30 | Hellaenergy | morning jasonb |
| 18:50.02 | Hellaenergy | Hows the project going? |
| 18:50.22 | jasonb | Going well.. tiring, but going well. |
| 18:50.32 | jasonb | I'm supposed to finish around the end of this month. |
| 18:50.46 | Hellaenergy | ouch |
| 18:51.11 | Hellaenergy | jasonb: where are some pointers on how I can secure tomcat? |
| 18:51.47 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: In what way would you like to secure Tomcat? |
| 18:52.08 | Hellaenergy | against gaining root access |
| 18:52.12 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 18:52.39 | jasonb | Well, don't run Tomcat as root, and run it as another user who doesn't have very much permissions on the filesystem. |
| 18:52.59 | Hellaenergy | what about the parent process? |
| 18:53.01 | jasonb | Here's one link you might learn a bit from: http://kinetic.more.net/web/javaserver/resources/wpapers/security.shtml |
| 18:53.31 | Hellaenergy | what are some other ways of securing tomcat (in a nutshell) |
| 18:54.05 | jasonb | You could run your webapps in the security manager. But, to do this, you'd likely need to tighten up your webapp itself. |
| 18:54.29 | Hellaenergy | Whats a security manager? |
| 18:54.33 | jasonb | You could also use chroot and trap your Tomcat in a fake root so that it simply can't access files that you don't want it to. |
| 18:54.36 | Hellaenergy | chrooted jail? |
| 18:54.39 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 18:55.44 | Hellaenergy | how do you run tomcat as a different user? |
| 18:55.49 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Here's info about Java security managers: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/docs/guide/security/permissions.html |
| 18:55.49 | Hellaenergy | just start it with that user? |
| 18:56.22 | jasonb | Yes, just start it as a different user, but before that, chown the whole tomcat tree as that user too, so that when it runs, it has access to its own files. |
| 18:56.27 | Hellaenergy | thanks alot |
| 18:56.33 | jasonb | Yeah. |
| 18:56.40 | jasonb | Security is a nice thing. |
| 18:57.49 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Actually, this link might be better for you: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/docs/guide/security/ |
| 19:04.59 | Hellaenergy | jasonb: how do you tell tomcat to run as a different user? |
| 19:06.56 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Tomcat knows nothing about it. |
| 19:07.08 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: You can do it in one of at least a couple of ways. |
| 19:07.34 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: If you are doing this from an init script, you can do "su - tomcatuser" and then "catalina.sh start". |
| 19:07.57 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Or, if you're running it by hand you can simply log in as the tomcatuser and then run catalina.sh by hand. |
| 19:08.36 | Hellaenergy | I don't want to have this user to have a home or shell |
| 19:08.43 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Right. |
| 19:08.55 | Hellaenergy | is that possible? |
| 19:09.06 | jasonb | So, in that case, you'd need some command/code that will switch users down to another user from root. |
| 19:09.12 | Hellaenergy | how can I su without a home or shell? |
| 19:09.27 | Hellaenergy | k |
| 19:09.33 | Hellaenergy | how do I do that :) |
| 19:09.46 | jasonb | You can't su if the user you're su'ing to doesn't have a useable login shell.. no home dir usually isn't a problem, but no login shell is a problem. |
| 19:10.10 | Hellaenergy | thus the security benifit |
| 19:10.14 | jasonb | I actually wrote some code to make this work on Linux.. |
| 19:10.23 | Hellaenergy | will you share? |
| 19:10.28 | jasonb | Same with Solaris.. |
| 19:10.32 | Hellaenergy | nice |
| 19:10.58 | jasonb | On the BSDs, the chroot command will allow switching users as well, and that's very handy. |
| 19:11.46 | jasonb | Unfortunately, the Linux and Solaris chroot command don't do this, or, at least not on the versions I checked. :( |
| 19:12.48 | Hellaenergy | doesn't look like it here either |
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| 20:31.06 | Hellaenergy | Has anyone here every used http://www.fusebox.org/ |
| 20:46.59 | jasonb | Looks pretty lame to me. |
| 20:50.37 | Hellaenergy | lol |
| 20:56.51 | Hellaenergy | jasonb: hows 4.1.21? |
| 20:57.37 | jasonb | I still haven't tried it, but I'm certain to do that within the next few hours. |
| 20:58.06 | Hellaenergy | I'll be here |
| 20:58.11 | jasonb | Cool. |
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| 21:49.46 | akb_oOo | welcome to channel sex? |
| 21:49.50 | akb_oOo | am spamming on myself? |
| 21:50.18 | akb_oOo | let me check that again.. |
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| 21:51.23 | akb_oOo | lmao yeah man |
| 21:51.23 | akb_oOo | where is the world coming to?? |
| 21:51.24 | akb_oOo | now where do i clean my arse of this stuff.. |
| 21:51.36 | akb_oOo | btw hi guys |
| 21:51.42 | akb_oOo | hey hella, jasonb |
| 21:52.06 | akb_oOo | kylev seems to be on vacation or something, havent heard him over a month.. |
| 21:54.16 | akb_oOo | its almost 1am, just wanted to say hi before i got some shuteye.. |
| 21:55.12 | akb_oOo | hey jasonb did u checkout what i pasted today |
| 21:56.25 | akb_oOo | http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/5 |
| 21:57.33 | hellabot | Someone pasted Math.DEG = Math.PI/180; moviec at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/7 |
| 21:59.00 | hellabot | "max0matic" pasted set2circle at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/8 |
| 22:00.54 | akb_oOo | hey guys so all finally decided to hut up on me :`( |
| 22:01.28 | akb_oOo | shut even |
| 22:04.29 | akb_oOo | ... |
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| 22:13.23 | akb_oOo | ah clean of the bug.. :) |
| 22:13.24 | akb_oOo | hi all |
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