IRC log for #riftuidev on 20140511

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09:18.52Nosheiseebs: I've found that you can often get a response from ggg by sending a pm to any of the lead devs.
09:19.45Nosheiso I would say, send a pm to chris or email support@grindinggear.com, either will most likely get you an answer.
10:07.14*** join/#riftuidev Imhothar (~Imhothar@ppp-93-104-176-7.dynamic.mnet-online.de)
10:16.08Ivnedarwow, warrior dps legs finally dropped from ultane
10:16.19Ivnedarafter many many many months of killing every week ...
10:23.43Ivnedaroh dear, tdq is broken
10:23.52Ivnedarpvp constraint enabled
10:24.00Ivnedardefiants can't heal guardians and vice versa
10:31.58Ivnedarit's weird, it's only some things
10:32.08Ivnedarso their nameplates show up as hostile, but green, not red
10:32.17Ivnedarand their relation is hostile in the api
10:59.41Amadeus-that's awesome
10:59.43Amadeus-haha
10:59.47Ivnedaruh huh
10:59.58Ivnedarmakes for some interesting raid comps to make up for it :)
11:00.25Ivnedarseems to be only in tdq though ...
11:00.52*** join/#riftuidev Imhothar1 (~Adium@ppp-93-104-176-7.dynamic.mnet-online.de)
11:00.58Amadeus-it actually made me think of a fun event for once a month or whatever: a pvp holiday! (Where pve servers become like pvp servers and vice-versa.) ...ahahaha!
11:01.32IvnedarIt'd burn the community too much
11:01.37Amadeus-naw
11:01.45Amadeus-One day ..during the week
11:01.54Amadeus-people that don't like it can just not log in that day ..lol
11:02.10Ivnedar'cause that's a winning strategy :)
11:02.55Imhothar1"holiday" is probably the wrong word for it
11:05.29Ivnedarand trash loot in idh has no .name now ...
11:05.38Ivnedarso Ivnedar has looted: []
11:05.46Ivnedaryou can click on the item link and it's empty
11:05.54Amadeus-maybe it's screwed up similarly to how conquest was screwed up that one time.
11:05.57Amadeus-might just be a bad instance.
11:08.26Ivnedarthey're worth 3.5g at least :D
11:08.32Amadeus-Did you guys know about when EQ did the "progression servers" experiment? I wonder if that would work with Rift? (Obviously, the server would have to be segregated from the other servers.)
11:08.48Ivnedarwhat's that entail?
11:08.58Amadeus-I was trying to find a good website to explain it
11:09.10Amadeus-basically, they opened a new server with only content that was availble when the game was released
11:09.16Ivnedarah, ok
11:09.18Amadeus-everyone had to start as a new character
11:09.30Amadeus-then, content was "unlocked" as players beat bosses
11:09.45Amadeus-so, to unlock the first expansion, all of the bosses from 1.0 had to be killed.
11:09.49Amadeus-(raid bosses)
11:10.01Amadeus-It was almost purely a pve thing ...but, was very fun and interesting.
11:10.10IvnedarI am sad that more games don't do the large scale world events like wow's scarabwall/aq event
11:10.11Amadeus-Nostalgia is a powerful thing :)
11:10.34IvnedarI loved it at the time too!
11:10.42Ivnedarthe race between servers
11:10.46Amadeus-yea
11:10.51Ivnedarwith server status shown on a public site
11:10.55Amadeus-yea
11:10.56Imhothar1even though it was realy nothing more than a huge grind fest
11:10.56Amadeus-that was it
11:11.02Ivnedaryeah, it was
11:11.14Ivnedarbut one that everyone could contribute to at every level of progress
11:11.40Imhothar1still, I'd rather have no event than such an event again
11:11.55Amadeus-With Rift, I think it would be fun to just have a new server in which players couldn't transfer to other servers, nor could they move to other servers ....the only interaction between that new server and the others would be the chat channels.
11:12.28Amadeus-Just be fun to have everyone starting at lvl 1 again...and enjoy the process of leveling up without twinking, etc.
11:12.48Amadeus-I think players might return for the novelty
11:13.06Imhothar1what novelty?
11:13.24Amadeus-Just be fun to have everyone starting at lvl 1 again...and enjoy the process of leveling up without twinking, etc.
11:13.32Imhothar1you seriously overestimate how many people "enjoy" leveling up and repeating the same content
11:13.50Amadeus-shrug ...I've still not played all of the classes to level 60 yet :)
11:14.14Amadeus-I think a lot of people enjoy leveling
11:14.19Imhothar1aye, think about it
11:14.37Amadeus-The only part I don't like is the slow run/mount speeds at lower levels.
11:14.38Ivnedarpeople enjoy experiencing new content
11:15.04Amadeus-Ivnedar, people also enjoy new experiences...and it would be new to anyone that wasn't there at launch.
11:15.18Amadeus-The experience of leveling from the beginning with everyone in the same situation.
11:15.29Imhothar1what's the difference?
11:15.53Imhothar1oh right, all your mobs are gone because everyone needs them and the lag is terrible because everyone's in the same area
11:15.55Imhothar1yay
11:15.59Amadeus-There is a big difference from when I leveled my rogue at launch ..to when I leveled new characters just a couple months ago.
11:16.23Imhothar1because when you did levle your first character it was the first time you did experience the Rift content
11:16.50Amadeus-I still think it would be fun, regardless ....the social interaction would be fun I think
11:17.40IvnedarI think a lot of that is why people game hop
11:17.52IvnedarThey get to experience that glut of people all experiencing the same new content
11:18.12IvnedarThey get to consume 3-4 years worth of content development in a few months, then move onto the next one when it dries up
11:18.55Imhothar1even if not everyone is leveling together. you cannot possibly have the same experience again that you did when you played the game for the first time in your life
11:19.37Amadeus-Well, I thought it was fun in EQ and a *lot* of people participated in it ...and that game was 10 years old when it happened...lol.
11:19.43Imhothar1whether everyone else was on the same level or not doesn't matter. it was a new experience taht you cannot repeat. that's what causes nostalgia in the first place
11:19.55Imhothar1you forget a lot in 10 years
11:20.12Imhothar1after such a long time it's certainly different
11:20.25IvnedarSooo, I can walk backwards through the gate leading to the second boss in idh ...
11:20.33Ivnedarwhich makes me out of LoS of the boss and the raid
11:21.23Imhothar1especially if you don't play the game for a very long time
11:23.27Imhothar1Ivnedar: stop breaking the encounters. they are not designed to be broken!
18:59.02ZorbaTHutonly backwards?
20:09.49ZorbaTHutalso our raid tester wants to know if that makes progression any easier or if it's equivalent to just not being in the raid :V
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