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| 00:30.03 | seebs | Impressive. Two new NA servers, and now only two servers are full. |
| 00:30.30 | seebs | Apparently, caps are not so much per-server as per-cluster, so having two clusters means per-server caps can be higher. |
| 01:21.28 | Noshei | Wildtide: another error |
| 01:21.30 | Noshei | Error: wtLibUnitDatabase/wtUnitDatabase.lua:117: attempt to concatenate a nil value |
| 01:21.30 | Noshei | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.30 | Noshei | stack traceback: |
| 01:21.30 | Noshei | [C]: in function '__concat' |
| 01:21.30 | Noshei | wtLibUnitDatabase/wtUnitDatabase.lua:117: in function 'TriggerBuffUpdates' |
| 01:21.32 | Noshei | wtLibUnitDatabase/wtUnitDatabase.lua:190: in function <wtLibUnitDatabase/wtUnitDatabase.lua:176> |
| 01:21.42 | Noshei | zone in after death |
| 01:24.55 | seebs | I am using a laptop I got in 2001. |
| 01:24.57 | seebs | This is amusing. |
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| 03:42.49 | seebs | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.07 | seebs | I think I'd better go find out which dev maintains the patcher, and send a personal note apologizing for killing everyone they had ever loved or cared about. |
| 03:56.26 | seebs | Huh. |
| 03:56.39 | seebs | Daglar says he hates the PvP ruleset and wishes they'd done something else for the PvP servers. Now I am super curious. |
| 03:56.50 | Ivnedar | lol "Laethys is Full. Position in Patron queue: 1" |
| 03:57.45 | seebs | Heh. Faeblight's full. Position in patron queue: 3. 2. Estimated time: Calculating... |
| 04:01.45 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 04:45.16 | Noshei | seebs daglar is referring to the 2 faction pvp system |
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| 07:35.18 | Thorarin | What a mess :P We're somehow supposed to transfer without having mail boxes or (guild) bank NPCs again :( |
| 07:35.56 | Noshei | what do you mean? |
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| 07:43.56 | Thorarin | The server has no NPCs in Tempest Bay or the other cities |
| 07:44.08 | Noshei | ah, nice |
| 07:44.09 | Thorarin | It's gone Trial server, so you have to move to play |
| 07:44.27 | Thorarin | For that, you need your stuff in your inventory or personal bank |
| 07:44.33 | Ivnedar | can you port to sanctum? |
| 07:44.36 | Thorarin | NPCs help to accomplish that :) |
| 07:44.45 | Ivnedar | or meridian |
| 07:44.47 | Thorarin | Sanctum has no NPCs either |
| 07:45.14 | Ivnedar | :( |
| 07:45.20 | Thorarin | At least it was like that before, but I can't port there |
| 07:45.35 | Thorarin | No portal NPCs ;) |
| 07:45.45 | Thorarin | I'm not bound there, so no luck |
| 07:51.20 | Ivnedar | personal mailbox? |
| 07:52.00 | Thorarin | Myeah, to get out 300 mails :> |
| 07:52.10 | Thorarin | Not a lot of time I can tell you :) |
| 08:13.57 | Thorarin | Oh, Sanctum has NPCs atm, an alt of mine in in there |
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| 14:37.35 | ZorbaBeta | back to streaming, if anyone's awake - http://www.twitch.tv/zorbathut |
| 14:42.45 | Ivnedar | ooh, yay |
| 14:43.33 | Ivnedar | will watch once I finish learning about internet explorer and what it can do for me |
| 14:43.36 | Ivnedar | :D |
| 14:45.02 | Ivnedar | you're using a das brown keyboard? |
| 14:45.14 | Ivnedar | wife just asked what keyboard you're using after the sound of it |
| 14:45.24 | Ivnedar | going off memory from convo before, her eyes lit up when I said das |
| 14:51.37 | ZorbaBeta | yep, das keyboard brown |
| 14:53.15 | Ivnedar | I'm watching the stream for the coding, wife's watching it for the keyboard sounds and "kitty!!" |
| 14:53.25 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, there's two kitties. they are helpful. consistently. |
| 14:54.28 | Ivnedar | "That's what the internet is made for!" |
| 14:54.30 | Ivnedar | re: cat video |
| 14:54.37 | Baanano | the cat tree behind the 2nd monitor looks nice xD |
| 14:56.11 | Baanano | oh 2 cats |
| 15:05.56 | Ivnedar | should have muted mic before going to the loo ;) |
| 15:06.25 | ZorbaBeta | hah, will remember that in the future then :D |
| 15:15.51 | Ivnedar | My wife's waving back :P |
| 15:19.10 | Ivnedar | She's going to bed now, so back to 13 |
| 15:25.25 | ZorbaBeta | fair :) |
| 16:33.39 | Ivnedar | Enjoy the movie :) |
| 16:34.10 | Baanano | ruthless refactoring at the start |
| 16:48.29 | ZorbaBeta | yep! if you're gonna do it, you better do it right :) |
| 16:48.37 | ZorbaBeta | actually the code's already cleaner - I think this is just flat-out a better approach |
| 16:54.39 | Baanano | was it related to the frames project on github you linked some time ago? |
| 16:56.00 | ZorbaBeta | yup, same project |
| 16:56.08 | ZorbaBeta | wildtide's actually using it right now, he seems to be finding it quite usable |
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| 17:55.50 | Imhothar | http://www.riftui.com/downloads/info203-ImhotharsBags.html#comments |
| 17:55.52 | Imhothar | topmost comment |
| 17:56.22 | Imhothar | I have no idea if it's possible. But if it is I'm certain it's a tOS violation |
| 17:56.24 | Ivnedar | facepalms |
| 18:24.57 | Wildtide | nice :) |
| 18:51.54 | Imhothar | is that actually possible? I've never bothered with DirectX |
| 18:52.35 | Imhothar | In order to pull that in OpenGL one would need to interface with the process memory |
| 18:55.21 | Imhothar | and then it would work only if one figured out all the texture Ids |
| 18:56.19 | Baanano | and turning the bags invisible wouldn't make them not interactable |
| 18:56.33 | Imhothar | depends on the selection technique |
| 18:56.43 | Imhothar | if its gpu based like color picking it might even work |
| 18:59.47 | Baanano | that sounds more expensive than checking if the mouse position is contained in a rectangle |
| 19:00.02 | Imhothar | depends on many factors |
| 19:01.56 | Imhothar | the plus side is you can use the same selection algorithm for UI and 3D, including transformed UI obejcts in 3D space |
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| 19:29.13 | Wildtide | i don't think it would be possible. you can overlay stuff i think (like Steam does), probably by grabbing a reference to the DX COM object, but preventing an app from sending triangles to the screen sounds a bit far fetched |
| 19:29.32 | Wildtide | unless you hack the app ofc |
| 19:34.23 | Imhothar | sending triangles is one optin, the other is to mess with textures |
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| 20:03.09 | RBDevelop | anyone on here? :X |
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| 20:22.01 | Imhothar | the more I read about the Xbox One the more I wonder who are the nutheads working for Microsoft |
| 20:25.44 | seebs | I am pretty confused myself. |
| 20:28.36 | Imhothar | I hate to say it but it really sounds like a Microsoft 1984 |
| 20:29.14 | Imhothar | very surprising to see this comming from a country where everyone is so damn proud about their freedom etc |
| 20:32.27 | Imhothar | I'm pretty sure the TOS clause they added about lawsuits would be totally illegal here, resulting in the TOS itself to be non-binding |
| 20:49.55 | seebs | At least here, the whole agreement isn't invalidated by one bogus clause, as long as it has a clause saying that the clauses are severable. |
| 20:50.34 | seebs | I note that Rift appears to allow unbinding alt+f4, allowing f4 to be used normally as a binding. |
| 20:50.46 | seebs | Unfortunately, not all OTHER games do, so I don't want to get in the habit of using it anyway. |
| 20:51.55 | Imhothar | yeah well there's nothing special about alt+f4, it's just that the default action is WM_QUIT |
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| 20:57.56 | seebs | It's just that the WM_QUIT thing is so widespread, and so many programs have it instantly kill the game... |
| 20:58.02 | seebs | I didn't know about that, for a long time. |
| 20:58.17 | seebs | Wasn't a Windows user, and it's not exactly what I'd call an intuitive thing that's connected in any way to any other keystrokes. |
| 20:58.33 | Imhothar | well, WM_QUIT is the windows messages for requesting program shutdown. how the app reacts to it is a cmpletely different thing |
| 20:58.36 | seebs | And I was playing WoW under Wine, and I had this problem where my paladin couldn't self-heal with one spell. |
| 20:58.46 | seebs | I'd try to do it and BAM crash to desktop. |
| 20:59.50 | seebs | Took a long time to figure that one out. |
| 20:59.56 | Imhothar | crash or close? |
| 21:00.09 | seebs | Well, actually close. |
| 21:00.30 | seebs | But a close I didn't know I had initiated, with no dialog box or anything, while in combat and not in a rest area? I thought it was a crash. |
| 21:01.18 | Imhothar | understandable |
| 21:02.36 | Imhothar | "[PlayerA]: What's the combination for mails?" |
| 21:02.38 | Imhothar | "[PlayerB]: alt+f4" |
| 21:02.38 | Imhothar | "PlayerA left the channel" |
| 21:02.47 | Imhothar | used to happen a lot in the early wow days |
| 21:03.05 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 21:03.17 | seebs | Which is why I think it's clever that Rift makes it pop up the exit dialog box instead. |
| 21:03.24 | seebs | I don't know what happens if you unbind that. |
| 21:03.38 | seebs | Presumably, either it becomes an instant quit, or it stops doing anything. |
| 21:04.01 | Imhothar | well sometimes I want an instant quit button without having to fiddle through menus first |
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| 22:12.18 | Noshei | Wildtide: any idea yet as to why buffs arent filtering correctly in gadgets:buffs? |
| 22:12.45 | Wildtide | aren't they? |
| 22:13.31 | Noshei | oh ya know what I think I may have over writen my code i put in it, cause that would make sense |
| 22:13.47 | Noshei | so I could filter some buffs to only display mine |
| 22:13.54 | Noshei | but not filter all of them |
| 22:13.56 | Wildtide | ah, crap. have you still got it? |
| 22:14.18 | Noshei | hopefully |
| 22:25.14 | Noshei | oh good news, I had posted the changes I made in the gadgets:buff thread |
| 22:27.09 | Noshei | Wildtide: http://forums.riftgame.com/technical-discussions/addons-macros-ui/328456-addon-gadgets-buffs-4.html#post3986083 |
| 22:28.01 | Wildtide | i was gonna say, i thought you'd sent them to me |
| 22:28.09 | Wildtide | and then i totally forgot to do anything with them |
| 22:28.27 | Noshei | lol yeah I thought I had posted it |
| 22:28.28 | Wildtide | thanks, i'll get those added into the main repo for the next update |
| 22:28.36 | Noshei | cool, thanks |
| 22:30.29 | ZorbaBeta | we have a few dedicated trolls on the rift staff who enjoy subtly countertrolling other trolls. the alt-f4 dialog box was their idea :3 |
| 22:31.03 | Noshei | lol, that makes me sad |
| 22:31.13 | Noshei | I love Alt+F4 |
| 22:42.07 | Thorarin | :P |
| 22:42.30 | Thorarin | alt+f4 asks for confirmation, but X button doesn't. Makes no sense ;) |
| 22:42.56 | Thorarin | Unfortunately most people know what the X does |
| 23:03.16 | Noshei | Ivnedar: you should look into adding an option to sort quests by the sub zone they are in |
| 23:19.32 | seebs | X button? |
| 23:19.39 | seebs | And yeah, countertrolling is hilarious. |
| 23:19.51 | Noshei | red x in windows to close a window |