IRC log for #riftuidev on 20111007

00:11.04Sunspotsnightynighty
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00:51.57SnartyHK time
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02:23.04TorhalGibbous: Huh?
02:23.13Gibbouswhat?
02:23.17Gibboush
02:23.18Gibbousoh
02:23.21TorhalGibbous: [18:31:35] <Gibbous> it'd be much easier if I could do an object :/
02:23.26Gibbouswell instead of needing multiple tables to reference the same bits of data
02:23.35Gibbousif I could just do...an auraData struct in some form
02:23.36TorhalIt's called a metatable.
02:23.56TorhalGibbous: One sec
02:26.28TorhalGibbous: http://www.wowace.com/paste/px9w0u4lbqjgsh5i/
02:27.27TorhalMore like simulating a class than a struct, but whatever. Classes are more powerful.
02:27.32Gibbouswell
02:27.37Gibbousa struct is just a public class in C++
02:27.42TorhalInded.
02:27.45TorhalIndeed.
02:28.04Gibbousthank you for the example
02:28.07TorhalBut yah - tables can have "instances" in Lua.
02:28.09Torhalnp
02:28.37GibbousI was just getting tired of having to create one table for each piece of data, and then storing it all by index
02:28.41Gibbousand wanted a more traditional functin
02:28.43Gibbous^function
02:29.42TorhalYou can actually have more traditional inheritance (and multiple inheritance) via clever usage of metatables.
02:30.03Gibbousthanks
02:30.20Torhal:)
02:54.07TorhalGibbous: Also, BTW:
02:54.12Torhal~pil
02:54.12purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
02:55.12TorhalGibbous: That covers Lua 5.0 - 5.1 has mostly minor changes, but there are a few significant ones (such as how varargs are treated)
02:55.24Gibbousthank you
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04:15.01starlondolby's a pretty cool dolby *nodnod*
04:15.46dolbystarlon's a pretty cool starlon?
04:16.03starlonhehe
04:16.22dolbyCairenn is an awesome Cairenn though
04:16.27starlonI thought the whole "your addon gets removed from the list when updating" was a feature. :)
04:16.42Cairennbleh, no
04:16.43Cairennheh
04:16.48starlonI agree, Cairenn's pretty cool too.
04:16.55Cairenn^^
04:18.30Cairenn(aka, bleh, no)
04:26.53hp94Ooo, I got emailed a write up on the defcon badge challenge, with me in the group picture on the bottom =D.
04:27.07hp94I'm so famous on the internet, like 3 people know who I am lol
04:28.50starlonNow the FBI has you in their crosshairs. Watch whom you nuke. ;)
04:29.13starlonteases.
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04:33.39hp94nukes starlon.
04:33.50starlonfalters.
04:34.00hp94If the FBI even KNEW who I was I'd probably have an easier time getting a job.
04:34.40starlonput in an app to the NSA. I think they were accepting them recently. Read something about that anyways.
04:35.54hp94They probably wouldn't have honeypots on the INSIDE of their systems...
04:35.56hp94Hmm...
04:36.01hp94ponders.
04:40.56starlonYou know those exercises in Grammar and Rhetoric courses where you exchange rough drafts and proof read your peers' works? Why did it seem like I always got perfect drafts -- no mistakes? The professor walks around and I'm like holding my pen in the air, ready to zap something, and she's like "hmmmmmm" and moves along... sigh
04:45.53hp94Bad luck?
04:46.09hp94Not enough hacking* <-Thats what I meant to say.
04:46.25hp94Speaking of hacking, I wonder if RIFTUI has good security.
04:47.25Cairennyes
04:47.57hp94*shifty eyes*
04:48.16Cairennhttp://forums.riftgame.com/rift-general-discussions/general-discussion/261453-riftui-all-your-rift-addon-needs.html#post3211638
04:48.21starlonBetter than Curse I'd say from experience.
04:48.44hp94"•they are manually opened by site staff and checked to make sure there are no executables;"
04:48.59hp94Game. Over.
04:49.29hp94I have to ask if that's what ACTUALLY happens?
04:49.55CairennNo, I made it up, I'm in the habit of lying
04:49.58Cairenn:p
04:50.28CairennWe check every single upload, and update, of all files on our sites
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05:48.02hp94You have been banned for the following reason:
05:48.09hp94Date the ban will be lifted: Never
05:48.15hp94sadface
05:53.41CairennI presume you're talking about WoWInterface?
05:58.10hp94I believe you might have been the one that banned me so long ago.
05:58.26hp94I thought I knew 'Cairenn' from somewhere - but I might be wrong
05:58.40CairennYeah
05:58.46CairennWe've already had this conversation hp94
05:59.06hp94<Bad memory
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07:09.02CairennNight all
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12:39.56SnstrHi
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13:43.03ZorbaBetajust FYI, if you're actively doing addon development you may want to install/patch up the PTS. there's an update coming that adds a bunch of useful debug output for common errors, and cleans up stacktraces at the same time
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14:20.41*** topic/#riftuidev is http://pastebin.com for code snippets || PIL: http://www.lua.org/pil || Rift AddOn Policy: http://t.co/7xXd4LL || AddOn Wiki: wiki.riftui.com/ || RiftUI.com || rift.curse.com || If any of you are going to BlizzCon, or be in the vacinity: http://t.co/hLMq0HZA
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14:41.36Snstruh..
14:41.49Snstrthe role info is only available for party members, not raid members?
14:42.06Snstr(I mean dps, tank, .. )
14:43.26ZorbaBetashould be groupmembers
14:43.31ZorbaBetathough if it's not working, it may be bugged
14:44.44SnstrI guess its bugged then :P
14:44.59Snstrill double check to make sure
15:14.02Snstrdefinetly not getting the roles for other raid parties
15:14.13Snstronly tested in warfront tho
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16:28.08Lyme1ZorbaBeta: will that be a hotfix or rolled with 1.6?
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16:34.28NerfedWarbeen thinking of putting together a layout engine for addons that mimics the one for standard UI elements. addons that want to take advantage of it will need to register each frame they want to be able to layout in the editor. before I start.. anyone working in something similar?
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16:45.48lymeIt is unlikely that every mod developer is in channel, in addition I do not believe there is the full functionality to control other elements to that degree as of yet.
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17:09.23NerfedWarif the addon (let's call it LibLayout) had a function that allowed other addons to register frames with it and how they can manipulated (position, scale, alpha) then LibLayout would be able to do the rest.
17:14.02NerfedWarI think the API has all the functionality required, the question is whether other addons authors would use it..?
17:14.44NerfedWarIn fact..., by directly accessing frames from the UI table, if the layout addon knew the names of the important frames of other addons it wouldn't need them to do anything...
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20:58.22AienyToo much Addon development........I'm working on designing a website, and I just flipped back to the page after making the updates and tried to type /reloadui into the browser
21:08.54nicoli_swhat sorta website you making?
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21:53.09hp94Hey everyone
21:53.21hp94Quick Q: What happened to System.Inspect.Time()?
21:53.31hp94*Inspect.System.Time()?
21:53.40Marru||AFKInspect.Time.Frame()
21:53.47Marru||AFKand Inspect.Time.Real()
21:57.46hp94tyvm
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23:52.48AurorusCairenn: ping
23:53.01CairennAurorus: pong
23:53.28AurorusCairenn: Are you the mistress of rift.zam.com?
23:53.38CairennNo, but I know them
23:54.29CairennWhat's up?
23:54.32AurorusAhh, cool - if you could pass on that on a 1440x900 screen, it's impossible to view the Database -> Zones -> Instances and Database -> Zones -> Zones menu items as they scroll off the bottom of the screen :)
23:54.43CairennWill do
23:55.05Auroruscheers :)
23:55.28CairennPinging right now
23:58.35Cairennhugs Aurorus
23:58.55Aurorushugs Cairenn
23:59.06Aurorus11am on a Sat morning
23:59.18Cairenn8pm on a Fri night
23:59.30CairennYay international friends :)
23:59.44Aurorusyay! :)
23:59.50CairennOne of the reasons why I love our communities so much

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