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12:00.16*** topic/#qi-hardware is Copyleft hardware - http://qi-hardware.com | hardware hackers join here to discuss Ben NanoNote, atben / atusb 802.15.4 wireless, and other community driven hw projects | public logging at http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs and http://irclog.whitequark.org/qi-hardware
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13:16.19DocScrutinizer05ROTFL https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1311792.html
13:17.23DocScrutinizer05HARDCODED, EH?!?
13:17.36DocScrutinizer05MORONS
13:18.19DocScrutinizer05~systemd
13:18.19infobotsystemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer, Daniel Mack, Tom Gundersen, David Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel, or see https://devuan.org  http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
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13:29.48DocScrutinizer05I really don't get it how much idiocy seems to accumulate around and inside systemd*
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13:56.59eintopflikes systemd
14:22.02larscit's the best thing since sliced bread
14:47.14eintopftoastbread
14:51.18kyak"shouldn't postfix also be configured by
14:51.20kyakdefault to relay mail via GMail?"
14:51.25kyakliked that :)
15:14.55wpwrakit's the best thing since bread falling buttered side down
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15:34.39virickyak: well, the old word 'mail' could be renamed to the more modern 'gmail'.
15:35.21larscand log messages are saved in your facebook feed by default
16:06.45DocScrutinizer05ssssshhh! Poettering might hear you!
16:07.44DocScrutinizer05actually I already wondered if systemd supports port 513 err 512 err ?
16:08.49DocScrutinizer05so once they notice they might need remote logging, they actually may come up with crap similar to that FB idea
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18:13.07paul_boddieMaybe systemd will log output directly to Stack Overflow as questions.
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18:17.42paul_boddieI managed to run the current Linux kernel on the NanoNote, by the way.
18:18.05paul_boddieThe jz4740 just seemed to work, although I suspect that the backlight handling stuff is absent.
18:20.03paul_boddieThe screen goes white when suspended, which I seem to remember reading about on the list at one point.
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18:39.39kristianpaulwpwrak: http://hackaday.com/2015/03/29/3d-printed-mechanical-keyboard/
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19:35.06larscpaul_boddie: the driver for the panel is not upstream
19:36.34larscthese are the patches you want on top of upstream https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/target/linux/xburst/patches-3.18
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20:21.08paul_boddielarsc: Thanks! I see your name all over the jz4740 stuff. :-)
20:21.51paul_boddieI'm actually comparing some jz4730 Ingenic stuff with the jz4740 code at the moment and trying to figure some of it out.
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20:38.19paul_boddieI found that with the plain kernel sources, "make uImage" doesn't produce a usable image, and I have to set the load address myself with mkimage.
20:39.37paul_boddieThe 0xffffffff80010000 address gets converted to 0xffffffff by some kernel script magic.
20:41.25pcercueiyeah
20:41.31pcercueiI remember that
20:42.45pcercueihttps://github.com/gcwnow/linux/blob/jz-3.19/arch/mips/jz4770/Platform#L3
20:43.18pcercueithe fix is not upstream
20:43.50paul_boddieWhen I changed the address in the Platform file, "make uImage" refused to do anything. So there's some target-creating magic as well.
20:44.34paul_boddieAnd when I commented out the test for addresses less than 0xffffffff80000000 so that the uImage target is provided, it still didn't call mkimage correctly.
20:53.38paul_boddieI guess you guys would have an opinion on whether jz4730 would fit within jz4740 or not. It's difficult to tell from the datasheets how different the various registers and pins are.
21:37.12paul_boddietries the kernel on the Ben
21:38.13paul_boddieI've built the ili8960 driver, but still get the white screen of suspension. And the keymap doesn't seem right: no fn combinations for the numerals.
22:30.48paul_boddieI guess I'll take a look at this later. Maybe I did something wrong.
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