| 00:19.49 | Cwiiis | Anyone with access to the oz site around? |
| 00:20.19 | Cwiiis | Well, I have access, but I don't trust myself :p |
| 00:36.42 | CoreDump|afk | Cwiiis: what's the matter? |
| 00:37.08 | Cwiiis | CoreDump|afk: Just wanted to get added to the developers page, along with a donations button |
| 00:37.43 | CoreDump|afk | yeah, well, go ahead then :) |
| 00:39.05 | Cwiiis | Do I just edit the html, or is there some fancy editing system in place now? |
| 00:39.33 | CoreDump|afk | click the "Edit this entry" link just below the title (Developers) |
| 00:40.34 | Cwiiis | Wouldn't I need a login? |
| 00:40.43 | Cwiiis | (just noticed login link :)) |
| 00:40.45 | CoreDump|afk | yep, i thought you had one? |
| 00:41.00 | Cwiiis | I take it it differs from my sf login? |
| 00:41.35 | CoreDump|afk | indeed |
| 00:41.53 | CoreDump|afk | AFAIK only hrw can add you |
| 00:42.31 | CoreDump|afk | try to register |
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| 00:43.22 | Cwiiis | ah, good stuff - I guess hrw will deal with it when he has the time :) |
| 00:43.44 | CoreDump|afk | well, I'll try to set a password for you |
| 00:45.19 | CoreDump|afk | did it work? |
| 00:47.04 | Cwiiis | Let me check |
| 00:47.22 | Cwiiis | No e-mail, so I guess not? |
| 00:48.37 | CoreDump|afk | nah, try your login and the password i've told you |
| 00:49.26 | CoreDump|afk | dunno if that'll work but it's worth a try :) |
| 00:50.19 | Cwiiis | ah, ok :) |
| 00:51.29 | Cwiiis | CoreDump|afk: Seems to work, cheers :) |
| 00:51.44 | CoreDump|afk | :) have fun then. I'm off to bed. nigh! |
| 00:51.48 | CoreDump|afk | night even |
| 00:55.06 | Ikkakujyu | Dangit. Now that I'm all happy with GPE, what do I use in place of Wellenreiter? |
| 01:00.50 | Cwiiis | Night CoreDump|afk, and thanks :) |
| 01:01.14 | Cwiiis | Ikkakujyu: There's a matchbox-panel app gpe-aerial that's quite good for scanning networks |
| 01:01.52 | Ikkakujyu | I'm on it. |
| 01:13.58 | imk | http://inexistent.com/firefox_on_z.png |
| 01:15.41 | Ikkakujyu | Now let's see it running on the 5500... |
| 01:15.51 | imk | that is on the 5500 |
| 01:15.58 | imk | notice the sysinfo |
| 01:16.31 | Ikkakujyu | Ah. Well, I'm kinda blind to that sort of stuff :) |
| 01:18.01 | Ikkakujyu | X/Qt or Pocketworkstation or something? |
| 01:18.15 | imk | oz-bootstrap + debian (from PW) |
| 01:18.40 | Ikkakujyu | Impressive. |
| 01:19.23 | Ikkakujyu | Just having X draw a desktop bigger than the screen? |
| 01:20.31 | imk | yeah |
| 01:21.06 | imk | you can pan around easily from the pda... you can adjust the screen to any res you want |
| 01:21.16 | imk | or vnc into it |
| 01:21.19 | imk | works flawlessly |
| 01:21.36 | Ikkakujyu | Gotta figure out how to do that in GPE... couldn't find an xorg.conf or anything :( |
| 01:22.34 | Cwiiis | Ikkakujyu: The gpe-image uses kdrive rather than xorg/xfree86 - It's only configurable through command-line parameters |
| 01:23.01 | Ikkakujyu | Ah. Didn't know that. |
| 01:23.38 | Cwiiis | It probably isn't as configurable as xorg/xf86 either, but I've not really looked at it much |
| 01:25.36 | Ikkakujyu | The GPE project -says- it uses Xorg... hrm. |
| 01:26.07 | Cwiiis | Ikkakujyu: Well, it says it uses the X windows system, and links to xorg |
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| 01:28.04 | Ikkakujyu | Ah. Kdrive website says all the configuration is done at compile time. |
| 01:28.39 | Ikkakujyu | Erm. And with command line flags. |
| 01:32.12 | Cwiiis | :) |
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| 01:36.07 | Cwiiis | heading to bed... night |
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| 01:47.54 | newuser | hello |
| 01:50.15 | newuser | has someone managed to use WPA on the internal wireless chipset on an SL-6000L |
| 01:50.16 | newuser | ? |
| 02:08.44 | newuser | ifconfig? |
| 02:08.55 | Ikkakujyu | Doesn't work in GPE, so far as I can tell. |
| 02:09.27 | newuser | what do you mean with does not work? |
| 02:09.50 | Ikkakujyu | ifconfig does not exist anywhere on the device. |
| 02:10.01 | newuser | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 02:10.07 | newuser | i am using GPE |
| 02:10.29 | newuser | if you are not using root, it is not ou your PATH |
| 02:10.29 | Ikkakujyu | Interesting. |
| 02:10.32 | Ikkakujyu | Um. |
| 02:10.39 | Ikkakujyu | It's not in the PATH for root either. |
| 02:10.46 | Ikkakujyu | That's why I couldn't find it. |
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| 03:35.43 | Ikkakujyu | imk: So how useable is your bootstrap/Debian setup? |
| 03:37.15 | imk | what do you mean? |
| 03:37.59 | Ikkakujyu | Well. Would you reccomend it for someone who mainly does text editing and music playing_ |
| 03:38.02 | Ikkakujyu | ? |
| 03:38.11 | imk | no |
| 03:38.26 | imk | but then again, if all i did was text edit and listen to music... id be using the console |
| 03:39.09 | Ikkakujyu | What do you mostly use it for, then? |
| 04:17.08 | Pendalar | heh.. no kergoth or mickeyl or hrw... |
| 04:17.30 | Pendalar | ah n/m |
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| 04:32.17 | jumpkick | is there a gpe-nmf package in OZ-3.5.3 for GPE? |
| 04:37.11 | imk | Ikkakujyu: gaim, firefox, irc, etc |
| 04:37.42 | Ikkakujyu | Isn't it a little slow? |
| 04:39.09 | imk | yeah, but no different than if youre running opie i suppose |
| 04:39.25 | imk | firefox takes a little longer to start up than konqueror but once its started its fine |
| 04:39.29 | imk | gaim is just as fast |
| 04:43.39 | Ikkakujyu | I might give it a shot. |
| 04:46.01 | imk | you have to know what youre doing |
| 04:47.45 | Ikkakujyu | Something I'm not too good at. But for now, sleep. |
| 05:13.22 | darmou | would it be possible to use the sharp camera with gpe? |
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| 06:59.09 | hrw | added some links into oz.org |
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| 08:22.19 | alan_ | hi evry one !! |
| 08:23.32 | alan_ | i'm currently using pdaxrom on my c750, but i'd like to test openzaurus, and especially the gpe version |
| 08:23.57 | alan_ | yet, i really really need a good word processing tool |
| 08:24.45 | alan_ | does abiword work on oz ? i don't see it in official feeds, only on external feeds. |
| 08:27.44 | XorA | alan_: abiword was recently added, I dont htink it was packaged because at time of release it didnt build |
| 08:28.55 | alan_ | oki !! thanks XorA ! do you knowin which feed i can find it ? |
| 08:29.11 | XorA | alan_: how long you gonna hang around? |
| 08:29.47 | alan_ | XorA: sorry, i don't understand your question ? |
| 08:30.07 | XorA | alan_: how many mins/hours do you plan to slay on this channel? |
| 08:30.44 | alan_ | well, not a lot, i have to leave in 20 min... |
| 08:31.10 | alan_ | can i ask why ? |
| 08:31.46 | XorA | alan_: I can try and build abiword, but not until later today |
| 08:31.59 | XorA | alan_: try the familiar feeds, they are more X11 based |
| 08:32.00 | buffer | anyone know a decent wifi card for the sl-5600 |
| 08:34.55 | XorA | buffer: I think you were answered on #zaurus, pretty much anything compatible works |
| 08:35.03 | XorA | buffer: I use a WCD-12 |
| 08:35.06 | XorA | WCF-12 |
| 08:35.17 | XorA | it even survived the washing machine |
| 08:35.30 | buffer | who manufactures that? |
| 08:35.40 | XorA | buffer: linksys |
| 08:36.58 | alan_ | Xora : wow, this is great !!! you know i can wait ! i won't flash oz before tonight, maybe tomorrow... there are lots of things i need to check before i decide to nand flash in order to get the partitionning back to original, and then flash oz. Plus i don't really understand if the apps are installed in the internal memory or needs an external card (in this case, i'll need a new sd card...) |
| 08:36.58 | alan_ | ^^ |
| 08:36.58 | hrw|work | I have dlink cf-660w |
| 08:37.59 | buffer | XorA, do you know what kind of chip it has? |
| 08:59.08 | XorA | buffer: prism2 |
| 08:59.22 | XorA | alan_: c7x0 devices have plenty of flash for apps |
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| 09:05.05 | hrw|work | lardman: ping |
| 09:05.56 | alan_ | XorA: thanks again ! I got to go. |
| 09:14.47 | lardman | hrw|work: pong |
| 09:15.22 | hrw|work | lardman: I think that I will start for being moderator in oz part of oesf forum.. |
| 09:15.32 | hrw|work | lardman: 3.5.3 upgrades thread needs some cleaning |
| 09:15.53 | lardman | Cool, I don't think I'm able to add you though, you'll have to ask Offroadgeek |
| 09:16.09 | hrw|work | I know |
| 09:16.48 | hrw|work | lardman: best way is PM him? |
| 09:17.13 | lardman | yep, he normally replies pretty fast |
| 09:17.28 | lardman | I'll also send him a mail |
| 09:17.29 | hrw|work | ok |
| 09:19.05 | hrw|work | send |
| 09:19.20 | lardman | done |
| 09:24.09 | buffer | XorA, have you tried war driving with it? |
| 09:28.24 | XorA | buffer: all the time |
| 09:28.36 | buffer | what program do you use? |
| 09:28.43 | XorA | buffer: kismet |
| 09:28.47 | buffer | Ah nice |
| 09:29.12 | buffer | Where did you purchase the card from - and how much |
| 09:29.25 | XorA | buffer: dabs.com, 50 GBP |
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| 10:11.43 | Rupert-Giles | sup |
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| 10:34.00 | buffer | hello???? |
| 10:34.05 | buffer | anyone in there? |
| 10:34.13 | XorA | yes |
| 10:34.34 | buffer | good morning |
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| 11:04.17 | *** topic/#openzaurus by GeeSeCillo -> OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
| 11:04.17 | *** topic/#openzaurus by ChanServ -> OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.2 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.2/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
| 11:04.25 | GeeSeCillo | 3.5.3 ... |
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| 11:18.29 | inPherno | yo bos |
| 11:18.36 | inPherno | How is everybody? |
| 11:18.55 | Rupert-Giles | :) |
| 11:19.08 | Rupert-Giles | need some cool C3000 apps |
| 11:21.03 | hrw|work | I need vga games |
| 11:21.09 | Rupert-Giles | ;) |
| 11:21.20 | GeeSeCillo | i need money for buy c3000 |
| 11:21.21 | GeeSeCillo | ;) |
| 11:21.24 | Rupert-Giles | heh |
| 11:21.27 | XorA | hrw|work: fix sdl-qpe to get correct rotation on c7x0 and you can play quake |
| 11:21.31 | Rupert-Giles | are there no {} keys on the C3000? |
| 11:21.34 | hrw|work | Rupert-Giles: after switch from collie to husky most of games are not playable |
| 11:21.43 | Rupert-Giles | hrw|work damn |
| 11:21.45 | Rupert-Giles | :| |
| 11:21.46 | hrw|work | XorA: I never was a fan of quake |
| 11:21.54 | Rupert-Giles | i've been checking out a few apps |
| 11:21.56 | Rupert-Giles | got kpacman |
| 11:21.57 | Rupert-Giles | lol |
| 11:22.00 | GeeSeCillo | hrw|work, i have a collie ;) |
| 11:22.09 | hrw|work | GeeSeCillo: I too |
| 11:22.11 | XorA | hrw|work: if they key only games then you can zoom Stopia |
| 11:22.13 | XorA | Qtopia |
| 11:22.14 | GeeSeCillo | kpacman r00lz |
| 11:22.25 | Rupert-Giles | totally dood |
| 11:22.31 | Rupert-Giles | i was like pwnin some bad guyz |
| 11:22.35 | Rupert-Giles | ;-) |
| 11:22.41 | GeeSeCillo | hrw|work, do u know ettercap app? |
| 11:22.43 | Rupert-Giles | although it plays in portrait mode |
| 11:22.47 | Rupert-Giles | :| |
| 11:22.49 | hrw|work | GeeSeCillo: know, dont use |
| 11:23.06 | GeeSeCillo | hrw|work, ops |
| 11:23.12 | Rupert-Giles | should try and put debian on it |
| 11:23.17 | GeeSeCillo | phone wait |
| 11:23.22 | Rupert-Giles | but i've only got it so i dont wanna break it |
| 11:23.26 | Rupert-Giles | :) |
| 11:24.14 | hrw|work | Rupert-Giles: go help OZ |
| 11:24.24 | Rupert-Giles | ye |
| 11:24.33 | GeeSeCillo | hrw|work, i install ettercap on collie and i need more resolution... |
| 11:24.47 | GeeSeCillo | :-/ |
| 11:24.49 | Rupert-Giles | hrw|work how heh ;) |
| 11:25.04 | Rupert-Giles | OZ on a C3000 would be cool |
| 11:25.12 | hrw|work | Rupert-Giles: read oz-devel archives - there are few persons which work on it |
| 11:25.29 | Rupert-Giles | someone said they had OZ on their C3000 and it was almost done |
| 11:25.35 | hrw|work | and atleast one with C1000 |
| 11:25.39 | hrw|work | Rupert-Giles: Noodles ;) |
| 11:25.46 | Rupert-Giles | yeh that was the dude :) |
| 11:25.56 | Noodles | It's still the OPIE keyboard map that needs work. I've had no time. |
| 11:25.57 | hrw|work | Rupert-Giles: almost does not mean that this is stop.. |
| 11:26.07 | Rupert-Giles | hrw|work true |
| 11:26.09 | Noodles | I spent the weekend trying to disassemble an ARM bootloader for a different box. |
| 11:26.09 | hrw|work | Rupert-Giles: porting 2.6 for it can be fun also |
| 11:26.38 | hrw|work | Rupert-Giles: 2.6.11 on c760 is great (never used 2.4.18 on it) |
| 11:26.42 | Rupert-Giles | ill have a look at the devel archives |
| 11:27.39 | XorA | hrw|work: 2.4.18 suxx0r3d |
| 11:27.54 | hrw|work | XorA: tell me more.. I used it on collie |
| 11:28.02 | hrw|work | for over the year |
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| 11:28.15 | XorA | hrw|work: BTW your new OZ website, what decision did you come to with regards to developer blogs |
| 11:28.45 | hrw|work | XorA: didnt have time to think about it |
| 11:29.08 | Noodles | Rupert-Giles: All the stuff you should need to get to where I am has been posted to openzaurus-devel |
| 11:29.29 | GeeSeCillo | what wifi monitor of signal can i use ? |
| 11:29.32 | GeeSeCillo | someideas? |
| 11:29.39 | GeeSeCillo | applet or app |
| 11:29.41 | Rupert-Giles | at www.openzaurus.org? |
| 11:30.08 | XorA | GeeSeCillo: avoid opie-wireleassapplet |
| 11:30.45 | hrw|work | Noodles: can you write some words about c3000 status on openzaurus.org? |
| 11:31.10 | GeeSeCillo | XorA, w0w ok thanx |
| 11:31.36 | XorA | GeeSeCillo: reports of it preventing Z's from suspending |
| 11:32.15 | Noodles | hrw|work: Hmm, ok. Is there any mention of the c3000 currently on the new site? If not, where should it go? |
| 11:32.34 | GeeSeCillo | XorA, what? |
| 11:32.49 | Noodles | Under installation perhaps with "Not supported" in big warning letters? |
| 11:32.54 | XorA | GeeSeCillo: opie-wirelessapplet stops zaurus from suspending |
| 11:33.11 | GeeSeCillo | ops ok thanx ;) |
| 11:33.30 | hrw|work | Noodles: maybe we make new 'Page' for it - place it in main level |
| 11:34.18 | hrw|work | Noodles: 'Development'->C3000 Development->C1000 Development->'How to start' etc? |
| 11:34.45 | lardman | BTW I think getting Quake working might just draw pdaXrom users - that's seems to be about the only thing they say when we ask why they don't want to use GPE |
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| 11:37.22 | hrw|work | Noodles: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/development/c3000-support/ is for you |
| 11:38.21 | Noodles | Ok; I'll put something up later. |
| 11:38.31 | hrw|work | Noodles: ok |
| 11:38.32 | XorA | hrw|work: I assume we write our own blurbs on developers? |
| 11:38.39 | hrw|work | XorA: yes |
| 11:38.46 | lardman | Surely more fun to make stuff up about people ;) |
| 11:39.03 | hrw|work | XorA: I was thinking about create several pages for everyone like we did in OE wiki |
| 11:39.43 | XorA | hrw|work: I dont remeber the OE wiki, I dont look there often |
| 11:40.07 | hrw|work | XorA: 'developers' as only list of devels with links to pages which give more info |
| 11:40.36 | XorA | hrw|work: makes sense, especially if that page is a "blog" |
| 11:40.50 | hrw|work | XorA: so 'developers' page is short and all persons are listed in one place |
| 11:40.57 | XorA | hrw|work: I would try and keep some form of blog uptodate with my thoughts/issues/projects |
| 11:41.27 | hrw|work | XorA: I have to find some software to write to blogs - to easier writing |
| 11:41.55 | XorA | hrw|work: is wordpress not one? |
| 11:42.13 | hrw|work | XorA: desktop util I mean |
| 11:42.28 | XorA | hrw|work: ah, yeah, LJ has a few, but most are poor |
| 11:42.34 | hrw|work | or even zaurus one - to write posts when be offline |
| 11:42.38 | XorA | my blog takes stuff by email |
| 11:43.09 | hrw|work | wordpress can also |
| 11:45.37 | XorA | hrw|work: hmmm, I might have to look at wordpress for xora.org.uk |
| 11:46.00 | hrw|work | www.xora.org.uk you meant? |
| 11:46.28 | hrw|work | www. even ;P |
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| 11:49.55 | lardman | Duke3D is another one |
| 11:59.10 | XorA | hrw|work: yeah, though it should be aliased |
| 12:01.53 | lardman | :) interesting first sunset pic - is that in 4bit, or were you really standing in the middle of a pea-souper? |
| 12:04.10 | XorA | lardman: thats what happends when you shrink by non integer numbers :-) |
| 12:04.20 | lardman | Ah, I see |
| 12:05.01 | XorA | lardman: it is a camera on a phone as well, whcih sucks |
| 12:05.57 | lardman | XorA: That explains a lot - looks like most of the pics from mine, except most of mine are shades of black |
| 12:06.28 | XorA | btw the building is where you want to bomb to end scottish government |
| 12:06.39 | hrw|work | fsck.. husky dont want to start |
| 12:07.34 | lardman | XorA: It's a long long way away, sort of |
| 12:08.26 | lardman | hrw|work: just keep on pressing that on button and uttering the secret incantations |
| 12:08.38 | lardman | XorA: Scotland that is |
| 12:08.54 | XorA | lardman: guess what the weather is :-) |
| 12:09.17 | lardman | XorA: Snowing? |
| 12:09.23 | XorA | lardman: nah rain like normal |
| 12:09.39 | lardman | XorA: Ah, sunny down here in Bath |
| 12:09.53 | lardman | XorA: In-between the rain that is |
| 12:10.39 | XorA | lardman: we get rain between our rain |
| 12:11.16 | lardman | :) |
| 12:11.25 | GeeSeCillo | where i change a theme? i install a opie-theme-luna and i don't see theme on aparience |
| 12:13.44 | Cwiiis | lardman: You don't go to uni in Bath, do you? |
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| 12:15.37 | lardman | Cwiiis: In a manner of speaking, yes |
| 12:15.57 | hrw|work | GeeSeCillo: select "theme" and then 'settings' |
| 12:16.23 | hrw|work | lunch... |
| 12:16.37 | Cwiiis | lardman: Ah, you lecture there perhaps? |
| 12:16.57 | lardman | Cwiiis: I'm a research officer, though I did do my degree here too |
| 12:17.09 | Cwiiis | ah, k - Got a friend studying there y'see :) |
| 12:17.55 | lardman | Cwiiis: I see - I do Mech Eng, but I may be able to put in a bad word about them elsewhere for you ;) |
| 12:18.10 | Cwiiis | hehe |
| 12:18.55 | lardman | hrw|work had a good point - my stomach's about to eat itself, bbl |
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| 12:26.38 | Rupert-Giles | where :D |
| 12:27.47 | Noodles | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/development/c3000-support/ |
| 12:27.51 | Noodles | It's just basic status. |
| 12:40.25 | hrw|work | Noodles: great - thx |
| 12:42.42 | Noodles | I'm building a bootstrap-image to see if it actually works; if not I'll try to get it into a state where it does. |
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| 12:50.29 | hrw|work | traceback functionality in wordpress is nice ;) |
| 12:50.32 | hrw|work | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/04/16/page-moved/ |
| 12:51.04 | XorA | hrw|work: is there an image gallery in wordpress? |
| 12:51.36 | hrw|work | there are plugins |
| 12:57.07 | Noodles | Hmmm. I need to tell bitbake to grab CVS rather than to keep trying treke.net, don't I? Is it my connection or is it regularly unavailable? |
| 12:58.14 | hrw|work | Noodles: disable CVS_TARBALL_STASH |
| 12:58.23 | hrw|work | Noodles: treke has a problems with hardware |
| 12:59.22 | Noodles | Yeah, I know the option to tweak, I was just curious if it was a treke.net problem or a me problem. |
| 13:00.19 | XorA | hrw|work: need to teach bitbake torrent and donkey protocols |
| 13:02.05 | hrw|work | XorA: first let it take less mem... |
| 13:02.54 | XorA | hrw|work: a mass source pool of anyone who has ever used it :-) |
| 13:18.09 | GeeSeCillo | how to update opie for update apps installed? |
| 13:18.28 | GeeSeCillo | i change language.... |
| 13:19.37 | GeeSeCillo | other question |
| 13:19.38 | hrw|work | GeeSeCillo: 'how to make opie see apps which you installed in console'? |
| 13:19.52 | GeeSeCillo | i install powermanga on sl5500 |
| 13:19.59 | GeeSeCillo | run powermanga... |
| 13:20.01 | GeeSeCillo | linuxroutines/chargeFichier() : can't locate file : graphics/BIGSTAR0.SPR |
| 13:20.12 | hrw|work | powermanga from 3.5.2? |
| 13:20.14 | Rupert-Giles | so does the C3000 have '{' && '}' characters? |
| 13:20.15 | Rupert-Giles | heh |
| 13:20.20 | Rupert-Giles | manga kicks ass |
| 13:20.21 | GeeSeCillo | hrw|work, 3.5.3 |
| 13:20.36 | hrw|work | GeeSeCillo: hmm.. I was thinking that it was fixed |
| 13:20.50 | GeeSeCillo | ops |
| 13:30.47 | XorA | GeeSeCillo: update apps installed using opie-sh-launcher-refresh |
| 13:31.18 | GeeSeCillo | XorA, thanx ;) |
| 13:35.19 | hrw|work | e tam.. |
| 13:35.26 | hrw|work | opie-icon-reload is mych better |
| 13:35.54 | GeeSeCillo | w0w ok |
| 13:42.08 | zinga | hello, I have troubles running wellenreiter : "the Wireless Extension Versions do not match! : Wellenreiter II : WE V17 Interface driver: WE V16" on oe 3.5.3. any tips? |
| 13:43.22 | hrw|work | zinga: known bug |
| 13:44.22 | zinga | hrw|work: ok, sorry, but kismet should work... btw where can I check bugs like that before asking here? |
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| 13:46.53 | hrw|work | zinga: oesf forum, oz-users/oz-devel mailing list |
| 13:47.34 | zinga | hrw|work: ok, sorry, thanks :) |
| 13:53.43 | hrw|work | lardman|lunch: I'm moderator now |
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| 13:59.29 | GeeSeCillo | gaim only support jabber protocol? |
| 13:59.43 | XorA | GeeSeCillo: download other plugins |
| 13:59.55 | GeeSeCillo | mm |
| 13:59.59 | GeeSeCillo | XorA, ;) ok |
| 14:01.56 | lardman|busy | hrw|wok: cool |
| 14:02.06 | lardman|busy | hmm s/wok/work |
| 14:03.09 | hrw|work | lardman|busy: how do you think - can I remove obsolete requests? |
| 14:04.08 | lardman|busy | not sure - I think I used to have an option to delete posts, but I've not seen it recently |
| 14:04.56 | hrw|work | I edited your post ;) |
| 14:05.14 | lardman|busy | Cool :) |
| 14:05.38 | hrw|work | and have to upgrade signature |
| 14:05.42 | lardman|busy | I think there used to be a button to delete them too - but I wanted to delete one of mine yesterday, and I can't seem to find it |
| 14:07.29 | lardman|busy | hrw|work: you know anything about cache errata bug? http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12030&hl= |
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| 14:08.28 | Rupert-Giles | sweet |
| 14:08.34 | hrw|work | lardman|busy: no |
| 14:08.53 | XorA | lardman|busy: its in poodle kernel |
| 14:08.53 | lardman|busy | hrw|work: okay |
| 14:09.25 | lardman|busy | XorA: Yeah, I was just wondering if it's only takes effect if the processor is a 250 |
| 14:10.35 | XorA | lardman|busy: from memory I think its an on/off switch in poodle-config for 2.4.18 |
| 14:10.55 | XorA | lardman|busy: though there was some discussion about that months ago |
| 14:11.15 | lardman|busy | XorA: okay, thanks for the info |
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| 14:27.10 | hrw|work | who want to try zbedic 0.9.4 (need --force-depends, may not work under oz 3.5.3)? |
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| 14:30.57 | Rupert-Giles | i need to put debian on my Z |
| 14:31.04 | lardman|busy | why? |
| 14:31.14 | Rupert-Giles | dunno looks cool |
| 14:31.44 | hrw|work | I prefer OZ as lightweight debian like distro |
| 14:32.03 | Rupert-Giles | no OZ for C3000 :| |
| 14:32.04 | Rupert-Giles | heh |
| 14:32.18 | Rupert-Giles | ill get OZ when it's working :) |
| 14:32.18 | lardman|busy | It'll come |
| 14:32.44 | hrw|work | Rupert-Giles: no debian for c3000 too |
| 14:32.54 | bipolar | I think OZ should start using RPM's instead of IPK's, since they are clearly a better format. |
| 14:33.07 | Rupert-Giles | yeh there is hrw|work |
| 14:33.29 | lardman|busy | bipolar: but possibly larger, and how much meta-data do they need to have stored on the device? |
| 14:34.09 | Cwiiis[uni] | What's wrong with ipks? |
| 14:34.41 | bipolar | um... that was just a joke.... really... I know it's monday and all, but... common... :P |
| 14:35.13 | ccooke | Installing debian on the c3000 is easy, though... |
| 14:35.27 | ccooke | Just use debootstrap :-) |
| 14:36.55 | bipolar | way back when there was a system called "intimate" for the ipaq that ran debian off of a CF card. |
| 14:37.07 | XorA | bipolar: www.pocketworkstation.org |
| 14:37.14 | XorA | bipolar: debian for pda's |
| 14:37.50 | bipolar | XorA, cool |
| 14:38.33 | ccooke | the only downside of debian on the zaurus is the lack of integration... which isn't all that bad, really. |
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| 14:57.09 | lardman|busy | XorA: Is that mplayer the binary from atty.jp, or an OE compile of the source? |
| 14:57.21 | XorA | lardman|busy: oe compile of the source |
| 14:57.32 | lardman|busy | Is it up in a feed somewhere? |
| 14:58.04 | lardman|busy | Actaully, I think I may have grabbed it last time you gave me an url |
| 14:58.09 | lardman|busy | Yep, found it |
| 14:58.37 | lardman|busy | Anyone thought about adding kino to OE? |
| 14:58.38 | XorA | lardman|busy: my feed is always there, just dont post it to zug or anything as thats my poor adsl line |
| 14:58.47 | lardman|busy | no worries |
| 14:58.47 | XorA | lardman|busy: I did, it uses libsl.so |
| 14:59.03 | lardman|busy | XorA: oh, much effort to remove the references? |
| 14:59.33 | XorA | lardman|busy: Its localised to file requester, so if you know how to open qt filerequester should take ten mins or so |
| 15:00.07 | lardman|busy | XorA: I know nothing about it, I was just wondering |
| 15:00.23 | XorA | lardman|busy: is my problem, I had it compile upto final link stage |
| 15:00.49 | lardman|busy | XorA: It would be good though, esp as mplayer seems to be the best video player about |
| 15:01.09 | XorA | lardman|busy: I use on console currently, but yeah, needs a frontend |
| 15:07.43 | hrw|work | XorA: replace it with OFileDialog() |
| 15:08.23 | XorA | hrw|work: ok, I look at that tomorrow |
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| 15:54.25 | Rupert-Giles | anyone got gnuboy heh |
| 16:00.41 | Rupert-Giles | the emulation can be a bit slow :| |
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| 16:16.12 | dballester | hi to all |
| 16:17.17 | dballester | congrats to openzaurus people for the 3.5.3 and the new site :) |
| 16:18.14 | hrw | thx |
| 16:18.25 | lardman|busy | oz.org is v. slow |
| 16:18.37 | hrw | lardman|busy: sf.net is slow |
| 16:18.48 | lardman|busy | ok |
| 16:20.21 | lardman|busy | aquarius: ping |
| 16:20.28 | dballester | when i try to conect my collie with oz 3.5.3 / gpe 2.6 to my ubuntu, tailing /var/log/messages i get only "Apr 18 18:12:50 localhost kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 6" know bug or my fault? |
| 16:20.52 | lardman|busy | sounds normal |
| 16:21.08 | lardman|busy | did you have it working with 3.5.2? |
| 16:21.49 | dballester | I was hoping to get something related to Sharp Zaurus |
| 16:22.01 | dballester | It was working with 3.5.2, yes |
| 16:22.37 | lardman|busy | you should see something saying Zaurus if you use usbview |
| 16:22.38 | dballester | mmmh... wait |
| 16:25.27 | dballester | nothing, only my optical mouse |
| 16:26.08 | dballester | on Z side i can see "NETDEV WATCHDOG: usbd0: transmit timed out" |
| 16:26.40 | lardman|busy | I don't think the PID & VID changed for this release for you (which kernel are you running) so it should just work |
| 16:27.18 | dballester | 2.6.8.1-5-686 |
| 16:27.26 | lardman|busy | sorry, I meant on your Z |
| 16:27.32 | dballester | ops, sorry me |
| 16:27.34 | dballester | :) |
| 16:28.13 | dballester | 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
| 16:28.23 | dballester | original one |
| 16:28.38 | lardman|busy | Did you have to set it up when you first tried attaching? |
| 16:28.48 | lardman|busy | whenever that was - many ROMs ago |
| 16:30.08 | dballester | are you saying if i had configured the usb ethernet tcp/ip values the first time i attached the zaurus? |
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| 16:30.51 | lardman|busy | the usb hotplug thing (which matches the usb device PID & VID to the driver) |
| 16:31.13 | dballester | ok, i understand now |
| 16:31.34 | dballester | seemss to be a good idea to get a look to my /etc :) |
| 16:31.54 | lardman|busy | This is for Mandrake: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Mandrake_%28USB%29 |
| 16:32.10 | lardman|busy | But I'm not an expert when it comes to this, so others may have a better idea |
| 16:32.41 | lardman|busy | I'd be tempted to look in your messages.gz (is that the right one?) files to see if the ID numbers have changed since the flash |
| 16:32.52 | lardman|busy | then you'll know whether you're wasting time looking there |
| 16:34.17 | dballester | thanks for the ideas lardman|busy :) |
| 16:34.51 | lardman|busy | np. I guess you've also looked here: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/usb-networking/ |
| 16:36.58 | dballester | lardman|busy, i have a printed copy in front of me :) |
| 16:37.40 | lardman|busy | good luck |
| 16:37.43 | lardman|busy | ;) |
| 16:37.56 | dballester | the problem is that my desktop machine is not able to link the usb zaurus signal with the usbnet module |
| 16:38.12 | dballester | i will dive into /etc |
| 16:38.34 | lardman|busy | can you see the zaurus with something like usbview, or lsusb? |
| 16:38.55 | lardman|busy | I'd have thought that dmesg would also print out some info about it for you |
| 16:43.04 | dballester | nothing, tail -f /var/log/messages on my Desktop shows only the "usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 6" |
| 16:44.22 | dballester | time to go at home, see you and thanks again for the tips! |
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| 17:07.32 | lardman|busy | I was sat on the train in Paddington on Sun evening and thought I'd look for a wifi network |
| 17:07.52 | lardman|busy | there were lots, and a few were not WEP (according to the GPE finder app - aerial?) |
| 17:08.23 | lardman|busy | However I couldn't connect to them - why? (I don't know much about wifi hacking) |
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| 17:38.00 | lardman|busy | night all |
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| 18:19.10 | frdy | on sl-5500, what is the easy way to keep root space clean |
| 18:19.44 | frdy | when i flash, i've got around 1mb free space on root, but it's getting smaller |
| 18:19.54 | frdy | when i install apps, even on sd/cf |
| 18:25.07 | hrw | remove unneded modules, apps |
| 18:25.14 | hrw | move /opt/ to card |
| 18:26.39 | frdy | by moving opt you mean changing fstab ?? |
| 18:27.16 | hrw | no - I mean what I say |
| 18:31.26 | frdy | bluez is for bluetooth, isn't it ?? |
| 18:39.25 | hrw | yes |
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| 18:41.04 | frdy | sorry if my question are stupid, btw. thx for "Opie po polsku" on your website |
| 18:43.17 | B0Ti | is there an easy way to build a custom kernel for the Z? |
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| 18:54.10 | [cc]smart | frdy: the space is used by lots of symlinks that make the installed apps appear to be in normal space |
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| 18:55.18 | frdy | ah so |
| 18:55.23 | [cc]smart | btw, does sbdy know a way to move all root (/) to sd ? |
| 18:56.05 | hrw | rboot |
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| 19:08.39 | [cc]smart | rboot seems good |
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| 19:38.14 | aquarius | How can I diagnose a segfault in 3.5.3's python-gtk package? |
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| 19:42.07 | aquarius | I create a top level window, any widget, add the widget to the window, show both the window and the widget, and then call gtk.main(). |
| 19:42.12 | aquarius | And then it segfaults. |
| 19:42.25 | aquarius | If I don't create the widget, or don't show it, it workd |
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| 20:02.38 | B0Ti | aquarius: do you have the code to show? |
| 20:03.06 | B0Ti | aquarius: did you test in on a PC? |
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| 20:07.19 | Justasien | does this channel also do anything with the zaurus 5500 |
| 20:07.20 | Justasien | ? |
| 20:10.12 | hrw | yes |
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| 20:18.21 | Rupert-Giles | grrr damn libqsfepj.so |
| 20:18.47 | Rupert-Giles | libkke.so.1 |
| 20:18.48 | Rupert-Giles | :| |
| 20:19.18 | Noodles | Argh. |
| 20:19.33 | Rupert-Giles | i wanna play mario world :D |
| 20:19.34 | Rupert-Giles | lol |
| 20:20.04 | Noodles | Shutdown on the C3000 is a pain. |
| 20:20.15 | Rupert-Giles | how come |
| 20:20.22 | Noodles | If you've pivot root to the HD and then try to kill cardmgr it gets really unhappy. |
| 20:20.48 | Rupert-Giles | you got snes9x working ;P heh |
| 20:21.13 | Noodles | No, not touched it. |
| 20:22.49 | Noodles | Woah. Someone committed my updater script. |
| 20:22.55 | Rupert-Giles | cool |
| 20:25.12 | Rupert-Giles | Noodles on the C3000 where is the '}' character |
| 20:25.14 | Rupert-Giles | i found the '{' |
| 20:25.14 | Rupert-Giles | heh |
| 20:38.42 | alan_ | good evening everyone. (22:38 in France) |
| 20:38.54 | Rupert-Giles | so |
| 20:38.59 | Rupert-Giles | heh |
| 20:39.07 | alan_ | sorry for this newbie question : a c750 is a shepered, right ? |
| 20:45.06 | alan_ | never mind, i'll find it by myself. Good night !! |
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| 21:22.08 | Zero_Chaos | can anyone give me more information on why wireless extensions are broken in 3.5.3? |
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| 21:48.40 | Zero_Chaos | does MickeyL hang out in here? |
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| 21:50.50 | Zero_Chaos | ~seen mickeyl |
| 21:50.52 | ibot | mickeyl is currently on #zaurus (11h 23m 27s) #opie (11h 23m 27s) #oe (11h 23m 27s) #handhelds.org (11h 23m 27s). Has said a total of 170 messages. Is idling for 21m 44s |
| 21:51.01 | Zero_Chaos | ibot: thanks |
| 21:51.01 | ibot | Zero_Chaos: gern geschehen |
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| 22:29.53 | Noodles | Rock. The trick is to kill -9 cardmgr so it doesn't try to free the HD resources. |
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| 22:51.16 | Justasien | can anyone answer a quick sync question on the 5500 for me? |
| 22:53.14 | Justasien | anyone.?? :) |
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| 22:55.03 | Justasien | well pooh |
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| 23:54.46 | oe | hi |
| 23:54.53 | JohnAK | Howdy. |
| 23:55.20 | oe | /nick Dormi |
| 23:55.54 | oe | /nick Dormi |
| 23:56.13 | oe | :( |
| 23:57.27 | raboof | so, zaurus and agenda vr3 are `the' choices when you want a PDA that `really' runs linux in the sense that you can cross-compile to it, telnet into it and such? |
| 23:57.30 | raboof | any others? |
| 23:57.34 | raboof | ipaq maybe? |
| 23:57.47 | JohnAK | I've seen a older ipaq running linux. |
| 23:58.05 | JohnAK | It wasnt easy to install from what the owner told me |
| 23:58.17 | JohnAK | What about the Yopi and the Simpad? |
| 23:58.40 | raboof | never heard of those, checking 'm out |
| 23:58.46 | JohnAK | or is that Yopy, I forget how its spelled, one of the people on the oesf forums had one and was praising it. |
