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01:50.47anixanyone around???
02:18.31anixanyone around???
02:18.59anixdoes anyeone knwo how to flash the slug with a custom compiled kernel?
02:43.14rwhitbyanix: yes
02:46.14anixis it simply reflash -i
02:46.16anix?
02:46.32anixreflash is failing  openslug-nslu2-20061101044251.flashdisk.img: failed to find Kernel partition in image
02:48.37rwhitbyanix: is this from slugos head?
02:49.06rwhitby(cause that's in major transition at the moment into an apex second-stage loader-based arrangement, using the open source driver)
02:49.43anixno
02:49.46anixit should be 3.10
02:51.59rwhitbyreflash -i should work with a 3.10 image
02:52.15rwhitbyrun slugimage on the image to see what's in it.
02:55.57HopsNBarleyrwhitby, i'm stuck in 2.6.12 land on the iomega storcenter, and therefore devfs.  two "things" a) not that i need it, but why isn't devfsd used? b) there is an awful lot of messing with /dev -through device_table, /etc/init.d/devices, turnup, etc. it seems i hardly need any of that in a devfs environment.  have i missed something obvious?
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03:07.47anixrwhitby: still around?
03:34.48rwhitbyHopsNBarley: all that stuff is OE infrastructure which we haven't really modified
03:34.50rwhitbyanix: yes
03:35.07HopsNBarleythanks rod.
03:35.48rwhitbyHopsNBarley: are you stuck in 2.6.12 due to peripheral binary modules?
03:36.12HopsNBarleyrwhitby, it's cause i'm not smart enough to take the vendor 2.6.12 patches and get to something newer   (-;
03:37.32rwhitbyHopsNBarley: yeah, I have that problem too - that's why we have dwery on the project :-)
03:38.01HopsNBarleyhe took a look at the patch, and said it would be easy to do...
03:39.13HopsNBarleynow why would i loose etc/rcS.d/* output and control-c after i turnup?  /dev is exactly the same.  wierd.
03:39.20rwhitbyback later (work)
03:40.51VoodooZrwhitby: I was wondering... with the 2 stage bootloader system: how can someone already using apex affected?
03:44.31VoodooZsomehow I always manage to put myself in the "special" group. :)
03:44.47HopsNBarleyme too.
03:45.05HopsNBarleyi'm not even using a slug, and here i am on openslug. sigh.
03:45.16VoodooZhehehe a rebel!
03:45.20VoodooZwhat h/w?
03:45.41HopsNBarleyiomega storcenter - freescale ppc core
03:46.15VoodooZouch. not even arm based too. you are much more "special" then me! :)
03:46.36VoodooZHave you tried angstrom?
03:46.36HopsNBarley(-;
03:46.39HopsNBarleynope.
03:47.21VoodooZdidn't too talked about glibc 2.5 stuff in #oe?
03:47.35VoodooZs/too/you
03:47.47HopsNBarleyyeah, i'm running 2.5.
03:47.52VoodooZnice.
03:47.58VoodooZusing openslug?
03:48.05HopsNBarley"well, it compiled"
03:48.11VoodooZhehehe. me too.
03:48.18VoodooZbut I'm not game to flash it.
03:48.40VoodooZPlus I need my board for my robotics stuff so I can't really test stuff.
03:48.48HopsNBarleymy engineering partner and i did a complete takeover of the storcenter.  it was pretty cool.
03:48.58VoodooZcool
03:49.32HopsNBarleyfigured out the serial port, soldered it on there.  then used OE to make everything.  then figured out how to flash a unit right out of the box.
03:49.36VoodooZso you only got to compile but never ran it?
03:49.49VoodooZpretty good feeling.
03:49.53HopsNBarleyoh, i'm running it now on about 4 boxes.
03:50.10VoodooZglibc 2.5 + openslug?
03:50.15HopsNBarleyyeah, until stdout went away on my "turnup disk" environment.  very wierd and baffling.
03:50.23VoodooZis that w/ HEAD?
03:50.42HopsNBarleyno, a month or two old.  and i'm using "openstor", our version of openslug.
03:51.36VoodooZso to get glibc 2.5 in there you have to build it manually or?
03:51.59HopsNBarleyeverything is build from OE
03:52.03HopsNBarleyif that's what you are asking...
03:52.10VoodooZyep
03:52.28VoodooZI'm trying to see if I can learn how to make it work with slugos4.
03:52.39VoodooZusing your distro as areference
03:53.00VoodooZI know angstrom and others already have it running
03:53.07HopsNBarleymy distro isn't in OE yet.
03:53.10VoodooZbut if you used openslug as a base then it's easier.
03:53.30VoodooZdid you use slugos as a starting point though?
03:53.42HopsNBarleyyeah.  it is invaluable.
03:53.50VoodooZnice.
03:55.11VoodooZdo you remember having to change anything to get it working with 2.5?
03:55.32VoodooZI tried it but it says it's not available or something.
03:56.54HopsNBarleyit took a bit of fiddling for OE to eat it. You certainly have to comment out the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1 line in the bb file.  then you'll have to adjust the various preferred_provider's in the distro/conf file
03:58.20VoodooZwhich bb file?
03:58.31VoodooZglibc_2.5?
03:58.31HopsNBarleythe glibc_2.5.bb file
03:58.46VoodooZok.
03:59.04VoodooZI already tried setting it as PREFERED provider in the distro one.
04:00.24VoodooZI basically copied angstrom's EABI stuff and provider stuff.
04:01.09VoodooZWould you mind emailing me your distro file or anything you think is helpful?
04:03.20VoodooZHopsNBarley: Strange. I couldn't find that DEFAULT_PREFERENCE line in glibc_2.5.bb
04:03.38HopsNBarleyhttp://pastebin.ca/248919
04:03.50HopsNBarleywe may be working off different heads.
04:05.26VoodooZok. I'll keep looking ...
04:08.15VoodooZThanks for your help.
04:08.31HopsNBarleyhope the file is actually helpful.  let me know.
04:09.45VoodooZI will.
04:12.35VoodooZHopsNBarley: I grep'ed for DEFAULT_PREFERENCE and it appears it's in most other glibc bb files but not in 2.5.
04:13.50HopsNBarleynot sure what to tell you.  maybe one of the gang removed that line 'cause it was deemed working.
04:15.12HopsNBarleyi probably didn't explain that - the D_P=-1 was meant to de-select version 2.5.  i removed that line in order to use it.  so it's no problem if it is not there.
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04:18.46VoodooZHopsNBarley: yep. that's what I figured. I just started a build w/ some of your conf stuff.
04:19.03VoodooZI'll let you know how it went tommorow as it's midnight here.
04:20.26VoodooZnight
04:20.46HopsNBarleylater!
04:29.44rwhitbyThe 02-patch in slugos head gives a false positive on swapping in openslug.
04:29.48rwhitbySearching for RedBoot partition table in IXP4XX-Flash.0 at offset 0x7e0000
04:29.49rwhitbymaster->erasesize is 0x20000
04:29.49rwhitbynumslots #1 is 512
04:29.49rwhitbyFound FIS directory in slot 5
04:29.49rwhitbynumslots #2 is 2
04:29.49rwhitbyswapping RedBoot
04:29.51rwhitbyswapping SysConf
04:29.54rwhitbynumslots #4 is 2
04:29.56rwhitby2 RedBoot partitions found on MTD device IXP4XX-Flash.0
04:29.58rwhitbyCreating 2 MTD partitions on "IXP4XX-Flash.0":
04:30.02rwhitby0xb0000050-0xb0000450 : "RedBoot"
04:30.04rwhitbymtd: partition "RedBoot" is out of reach -- disabled
04:30.05rwhitbynslu2 mac: read failed
04:30.07rwhitby0xb0000450-0xb0000650 : "SysConf"
04:30.09rwhitbymtd: partition "SysConf" is out of reach -- disabled
04:30.12rwhitbySo the 02-patch is not working.
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08:40.09NAiLkoen: morning
08:41.15NAiLI'm retrying getting slugos to build glibc 2.5. Finally it actually tries to build 2.5, but it starts with 2.5-intermediate, which fails with missing "__thread" support. Is that because it doesn't build -initial?
08:42.22koenno, we use -intermediate for that
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08:45.47NAiLhmm
08:45.49NAiLNOTE: package glibc-intermediate-2.5-r3: task do_configure: failed
08:45.57NAiLrunning configure fragment for nptl/sysdeps/pthread
08:45.57NAiLconfigure: error: compiler support for __thread is required
08:46.22NAiLthat is using gcc-4.1.1-initial
08:49.33NAiLShouldn't that "Just Work" then? Any clues to where I'm screwing up?
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10:02.34NAiLkoen: Any ideas?
10:02.55koenno idea
10:03.13koenworksforme(TM)
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13:26.51unverbrauchti've got a question regarding gdb and threads
13:27.03unverbraucht(if you haven't read it in #nslu2-linux already ;)
13:27.27unverbrauchti'm running gdb on a pthreaded program under stock openslug 3.10 beta
13:27.49unverbrauchtthe program crashes and reports a SIGKILL
13:28.06unverbrauchtgdb doesn't give me a backtrace but only states that the program has terminated
13:28.19unverbrauchtcan anybody give me some pointers about what to do next?
13:28.24koenOOOM?
13:28.26koenehm
13:28.29koenOOM?
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13:37.36unverbrauchtsorry?
13:39.22unverbrauchtah i just saw that i didn't compile the program with -mthumb-interwork, could that be the problem?
13:40.33koenit shouldn't be
13:40.48koenit could get killed by the Out Of Memory killer
13:44.10NAiLunverbraucht: do you have any swap?
13:44.25unverbrauchtyes
13:44.32unverbrauchtbut only 32m
13:45.22NAiLtry increasing swap. that might be the cause
13:45.29unverbrauchtbut free shows that swap hasn't been touched
13:45.29unverbrauchtthe binary is small and only mallocs about 2mb
13:45.38unverbrauchtok, will do that, thanks
14:05.53VoodooZNAiL: with HopsNBarley's help I kindof of got a bit further with head building glibc2.5
14:06.13VoodooZIt now fails at the building of glibc-intermediate with this error:
14:06.18VoodooZports/sysdeps/arm/nptl/tls.h:48:3: error: #error "TLS support is required."
14:06.32VoodooZwhic appears to be a minor config issue. ???
14:08.08koenmore likely using the wrong linux-libs-headers
14:08.11NAiLhmm
14:08.20koens/libs/libc/
14:08.26NAiLVoodooZ: I got this far:
14:08.28NAiLchecking for ARM TLS support... no
14:08.28NAiLrunning configure fragment for nptl/sysdeps/pthread
14:08.28NAiLconfigure: error: compiler support for __thread is required
14:10.49VoodooZkoen: thanks I forgot to check if those were in line with angstrom's.
14:11.09VoodooZI'll keep trying.
14:11.30VoodooZkoen: is TLS really required though?
14:15.32VoodooZI must have been sleep last night as I forgot to copy the libc-headers lines. building...
14:15.38VoodooZbbl
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14:48.13NAiLNOTE: preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available
14:48.14NAiLNOTE: package glibc-intermediate-2.5: started
14:48.21NAiLoh.. really?
14:50.35cbrakeNAiL: yeah, I get this too, but it seems to be buiding glibc2.5 fine.
14:53.29NAiLon openslug?
14:53.46NAiLglibc-intermediate fails to build here
14:54.28unverbrauchtbye
14:54.49cbrakeNAiL: no, compulab/generic
15:10.21HopsNBarleyi had to use glibc-initial = 2.3.2, but then 2.5 for intermediate and "final"
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18:58.37VoodooZ_nah. I'm still getting the TLS required crap.
18:58.54VoodooZ_I'll need to try different combinations.
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22:15.23koen[g2]: "your device is shipped tommorow."
22:15.39koen[g2]: so hopefully I'll have a POE'd loft next week
22:17.50[g2]koen cool
22:19.34koenin the process of moving my desk I found 9(!) of those '8' shaped plugs
22:19.41koentime for some creative soldering
22:21.26VoodooZ_koen: I tried using the more recent headers and stuff but I still get TLS required. any tips?
22:21.57koenno idea on that
22:22.16koenI can build ixp4xx for angstrom now, so I'm happy :)
23:03.29VoodooZ_nice.
23:03.36VoodooZ_perhaps I should try that instead.
23:04.00VoodooZ_Is it a matter of changing a few choice lines in distro/machine conf files?
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