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| 00:15.23 | GI_Jack | oi |
| 00:16.34 | GI_Jack | any chance in hell I can persuade the powers to be to make me a custom with a hardware keyboard in a GTA-04 board on it??? |
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| 00:58.57 | Yomin | hi all |
| 01:01.37 | GI_Jack | hi |
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| 01:50.10 | Yomin | Hi, im searching for somebody who knows how to rotate the freerunners framebuffer. |
| 02:19.17 | GI_Jack | not I |
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| 04:22.08 | zeroedout | GI_Jack: I would love that too but the price is already so expensive... what's wrong with a BT keyboard and a bracket? Though maybe if there's enough people to pay for it..... |
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| 14:15.25 | kresp0 | hi all, i've a problem |
| 14:15.36 | kresp0 | the usb connector on my gta02 has come loose |
| 14:15.57 | kresp0 | i've opened it, but don't know how to fix this: http://oi40.tinypic.com/k9t1z9.jpg |
| 14:17.15 | kresp0 | the connections are too small for me :/ |
| 14:17.30 | kresp0 | how should I fix it? |
| 14:17.36 | Wonka | solder it. ;) |
| 14:18.15 | kresp0 | yeah, thanks Wonka but that connections are damn too small, do you think I should try? |
| 14:18.55 | kresp0 | i've never soldered anything like that |
| 14:19.20 | Wonka | it's just SMD, and not really a fine pitch |
| 14:19.32 | Wonka | maybe find some friend who does smd soldering? |
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| 14:20.37 | Wonka | you're lucky the traces on the PCB are undamaged |
| 14:21.29 | Wonka | also, the connector's pins are only minimally bent |
| 14:23.22 | kresp0 | thank you Wonka, I'll try it before on some broken SMD boards |
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| 19:29.29 | Yomin | Hi, im looking for someone who knows how to rotate the freerunners framebuffer. |
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| 20:11.28 | mickeyl | Yomin: some framebuffer drivers feature rotation, i don't know offhand whether ours does. check the kernel configuration and the sysfs display/framebuffer nodes. Usually though, this rotation is performed by the display manager, i.e. the main Qt/Embedded, EFL, or whatever UI toolkit program. |
| 20:17.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | mickeyl: what's our global concept regarding orientation and display rotation? |
| 20:19.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | given both display and accelerometer are resources and both need a central management |
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| 20:21.47 | mickeyl | if a given launcher or whatever main program is interested in handling display rotation, it requests the accelerometer resource and listens for dbus display rotation signals. It then has the chance to act accordingly. FSO gives you the information, but does not handle the rotation itself, that way the launcher/main program can decide whether it's a good time to rotate or not, i.e. if a game is operating |
| 20:22.28 | mickeyl | this enables X clients to use xrandr or pure framebuffer systems to use the UI-toolkit-specific rotation means |
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| 20:33.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | sounds straight. Just make sure everybody understands completely that there is a dedicated display-orientation data available from FSO, so no app is "abusing" raw accelerometer data to do its own orientation thing |
| 20:35.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | mickeyl: rationale: systemwide orientation lock, for example |
| 20:35.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | which logically belongs into FSO then |
| 20:37.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | line-between-feyes-horizon detection with front camera, to override orentation of device to gravity |
| 20:37.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | :-D |
| 20:39.04 | mickeyl | :) |
| 20:39.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | all has - to ssome degree - to live inside FSO, or control FSO, so FSO can send the correct display-orientation data |
| 20:39.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | actually display orientation is orientation of display to user, not to earth center |
| 20:41.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | mickeyl: this tends to become a unrecoverable mess when no cleqar howto and API is available before first app then is using raw g-meter data in lack or ignorance of proper display-orientation concept |
| 20:45.33 | mickeyl | yeah. like so many areas we lack examples and documentation and more device integration... |
| 20:45.49 | mickeyl | i don't even know whether we have accelerometer plugins for all devices we support |
| 20:46.32 | Yomin | ah hey, maybe i specify my problem in more detail |
| 20:47.56 | Yomin | i only want todo some basic stuff only requiring plain terminal, so i just removed all x related stuff (got debian running) |
| 20:48.23 | Yomin | and for better readability i want it in landscape mode |
| 20:48.58 | mickeyl | ah, so check whether the fb-console supports rotation |
| 20:49.08 | Yomin | after googling i came up with /sys/graphics/fb0/rotate and /sys/graphics/fbcon/rotate |
| 20:49.20 | Yomin | and fb0/rotate actually does rotating |
| 20:49.35 | Yomin | but doesnt change the virtual size of the fb |
| 20:50.02 | Yomin | means the lower part of the screen isnt visible and the right part is scrambled |
| 20:51.20 | mickeyl | perhaps you can fix that part with fbset |
| 20:51.23 | Yomin | so i googled alot but unfortunately wasnt able to find a solution |
| 20:51.43 | Yomin | i tried fbset in i think all possible ways but no luck |
| 20:52.06 | mickeyl | hmm, perhaps you can specify the fb rotation as CMDLINE argument to the drive |
| 20:52.07 | mickeyl | r |
| 20:52.17 | mickeyl | so it might init already in landscape |
| 20:52.36 | Yomin | ive tried adding fbcon=rotate:3 without success |
| 20:53.15 | Yomin | but somehow nothing related to fbcon is working |
| 20:53.19 | mickeyl | hmm, too bad, out of ideas then |
| 20:53.40 | mickeyl | try asking on the community mailing list |
| 20:53.51 | Yomin | especialy the fb rotates not via fbcon/rotate |
| 20:54.51 | Yomin | yes that will be my next step |
| 20:58.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | Yomin: /join #openmoko-cdevel |
| 20:58.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | ask there |
| 20:58.39 | Yomin | kk :) |
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