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| 07:16.08 | chomwitt | what the diff between ubi qi file and non-ubi qi file ? |
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| 08:06.14 | HeinervdmWork | qi-ubi is qi with ubifs support |
| 08:08.30 | chomwitt | thanks |
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| 10:52.59 | PaulFertser | HeinervdmWork: that's not exactly accurate, Qi knows nothing about ubi, but qi-ubi version has appropriate (for ubi rootfs) kernel cmdline parameters hardcoded. |
| 10:56.47 | lindi- | so you need to change boot loader to change kernel boot options? |
| 10:59.07 | PaulFertser | lindi-: only for NAND, and NAND was never meant to be the preferred boot method for qi. |
| 10:59.59 | lindi- | PaulFertser: it seems to be used by shr and qtmoko though |
| 11:05.06 | PaulFertser | lindi-: yes, because it's easier to compile a custom version with custom cmdline than to manage u-boot, i guess. |
| 11:12.25 | PaulFertser | lindi-: the fact nobody was interested in actually pushing the needed u-boot patches upstream is somewhat hinting. |
| 11:29.10 | lindi- | PaulFertser: well that is a separate problem? ;) |
| 11:29.55 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i mean lack of interest might mean that using u-boot on FR is not "cool". |
| 11:30.36 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I am definitely interested |
| 11:30.50 | lindi- | PaulFertser: it's just is not very easy to port those patches |
| 11:35.57 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i understand your point and your usecases, i'm not dismissing them :) Just it somehow happens that demand for a minimalistic bootloader is rather high to. |
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| 13:28.32 | SpeedEvil | discovers http://openmokast.org/using-openmokast.html while looking up DAB stuff. |
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| 15:05.07 | FelixJongleur | Hi, I got some problems building my own kernel and starting it on the freerunner. Building and flashing the device worked, but I can't seem to get the kernel booting correctly. I've written down what I've done so far here: http://46.182.19.64:8080/openmoko/kernelOpenmoko.html Does someone have a hint? Thanks |
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| 15:09.48 | lindi- | FelixJongleur: om-gta02-2.6.32, hmm |
| 15:12.05 | lindi- | FelixJongleur: can you take a photo of the full kernel error message? |
| 15:20.20 | FelixJongleur | don't have a good cam here. as far as i can read it, it says unknown block(0,0), add correct root= option, available partitions. mtdblock from 0 to 6 and mmcblk0 and mmcblk0p1, kernel panic. VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). than backtrace info. |
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| 16:18.58 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: how do you boot it? what's the kernel command line? |
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| 16:27.39 | FelixJongleur | shouldnt the bootcmd be the kernel command line!? I also put the outputs of printenv and mtd into the file mentioned above. |
| 16:29.59 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: so, do you mean the kernel says unknown root then "root=/dev/mtdblock6", then it outputs all known block devices and mtdblock6 is among them? |
| 16:30.44 | FelixJongleur | right |
| 16:32.38 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: what is on that nand partition? |
| 16:38.57 | FelixJongleur | a shr lite jffs2 image |
| 16:41.29 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: have you checked jffs2 support is compiled in? (wild guessing here) |
| 16:44.24 | FelixJongleur | jffs2 * ... yes |
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| 16:48.03 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: why is that you're using drm defconfig and also merging something from other branch? |
| 16:48.18 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: are you trying to follow some OE recipe? |
| 16:50.15 | FelixJongleur | PaulFertser: I am using this howto: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Howto_compile_Openmoko_kernel_for_Neo_Freerunner#Building_the_2.6.32_branch as this is my first try building an own kernel for the freerunner. |
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| 16:53.35 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: why is that you want to use 2.6.32 and not the newer version anyway? And why are you compiling the kernel yourself in the first place? |
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| 16:56.21 | PaulFertser | Also, FelixJongleur : -a 30008000 -e 300080e0 for mkimage? |
| 16:57.14 | FelixJongleur | PaulFertser: I need to write a kernel module which directly sends the accelerometer data to another device ... |
| 16:57.49 | FelixJongleur | PaulFertser: The 300080e0 is a mistake from another howto... corrected this but its still wrong in my document |
| 16:58.19 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: what is that objcopy trick, why are you trying to do that? |
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| 16:59.31 | FelixJongleur | well, this is taken from a uboot howto... actually i tried to use this in the first place but didn't at the end ... |
| 17:00.08 | FelixJongleur | PaulFertser: the shorter mkimage command for the uncompressed image seems to work anyway... |
| 17:00.29 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: zImage is a compressed image. |
| 17:03.42 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: do you not have a debug board so we can get full dmesg output? |
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| 17:08.02 | FelixJongleur | PaulFertser: This part is wrong/obsolete. I deleted it. I do but dont have the time for this today. new try tomorrow. anyway thx for your time. I think I'm gonna switch to a newer kernel version and afterwards complete this little howto to save others the time I spent ;) |
| 17:08.32 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: ok, feel free to ping me whenever needed. |
| 17:08.46 | FelixJongleur | PaulFertser: thx, bye |
| 17:08.50 | PaulFertser | Bye |
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| 18:25.09 | edje | hi all, http://lists.openmoko.org seems to be down, any idea if someone is looking in to that ? |
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| 18:38.28 | zrafa | edje: it is down and it will be down until people who keeps that on free time can fix some problems. BTW, I wrote 2 weeks ago a mail asking openmoko community for ideas of suggestions about how to continue this community |
| 18:38.46 | zrafa | edje: because openmoko MLs were down severals days a few weeks ago. Nobody replied |
| 18:39.17 | zrafa | edje: so it seems people use it if it is there (ML).. if it is down for ever they do not care |
| 18:39.57 | edje | i thought it was down by incident, not because the mailing lists will stop working |
| 18:40.04 | PaulFertser | Yes |
| 18:40.12 | PaulFertser | Also Openmoko has a functional admin trac. |
| 18:40.22 | PaulFertser | If you file a ticket there, it'll get delivered to those who do care. |
| 18:40.26 | zrafa | PaulFertser: mmh?.. last bill was paid for some volunters |
| 18:40.37 | zrafa | PaulFertser: what do you mena with functional admin? |
| 18:41.20 | PaulFertser | zrafa: technical problems will be promptly resolved when reported here: http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/ |
| 18:41.48 | PaulFertser | zrafa: and fyi some of the infra is already moved to Harald afaik. |
| 18:42.19 | edje | so, is there just a technical problem at the moment, or are things taken down? |
| 18:42.38 | zrafa | PaulFertser: yes, and Harald paid last bill. And what about of that?.. Harald is not going to keep that for much. No time from him from his answers |
| 18:43.14 | PaulFertser | edje: i'm neither roh nor Harald, so i do not know. Werner reported on irc that openmoko.org mail server got compromised and was taken down for maintanence. |
| 18:43.41 | zrafa | PaulFertser: yes, and roh said that he will work on that when he gets time |
| 18:43.55 | PaulFertser | zrafa: i think Harald has got his own servers where he can host the community |
| 18:43.56 | zrafa | PaulFertser: that is not something maintained or paid |
| 18:44.06 | PaulFertser | zrafa: i know. But he cares neverthereless. |
| 18:45.52 | zrafa | PaulFertser: that is why I asked community. Harald did that just because carity. roh does the job when he gest real free time and he can not fill that with another thing.. |
| 18:46.41 | PaulFertser | zrafa: i understand, i'm not sure what to say more. |
| 18:47.07 | edje | sounds like a good reason to take it offline for a while. I think if it needs to be we can find someone who can run a mailinglist on a home server, the volume is a few mails per day |
| 18:47.20 | zrafa | edje: Werner is a little rush because his mail address is @openmoko.org.. there are few more, but no much. So I guess that if nobody will take care he will do something :) |
| 18:49.27 | zrafa | edje: yes, the servers were compromised, like PaulFertser said you. SO until somebody can check properly if there are rootkits or whatever, and avoid new ones (doing upgrades, etc) the servers will be down. |
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| 18:52.42 | edje | perhaps we can set something up spread accross two mail servers, so if one is down for maintenance the other can take over and vica versa ? |
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| 19:03.33 | edje | does anyone have mail address of roh and or Harald ? perhaps i can setup a mx relay with them. |
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| 21:27.18 | zeromobi | hrmm, the website at lists.openmoko.org is down. I can ping it tho |
| 21:34.38 | PaulFertser | That's a known problem |
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