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| 00:24.06 | tim_abell | damn it why can't developers document their code |
| 00:24.22 | tim_abell | i've spent hours trying to work out how to use this pygps library |
| 00:24.27 | tim_abell | not a single line of comment |
| 00:25.21 | tim_abell | well ok there are some comments, but the api certainly isn't documented >:-( |
| 00:30.05 | tim_abell | nrrrgh |
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| 00:33.05 | tim_abell | where is everyone? |
| 00:33.19 | tim_abell | openmoko is definitely starting to feel like a dying project |
| 00:34.11 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: well, nothing's really changing lately. |
| 00:34.21 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: the work is ongoing by its pace |
| 00:34.50 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: have you take a look at git blame or something to find out whom to report problems with that pygps to? |
| 00:36.26 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: the FSO api is documented, the GPS part of it is gypsy-like and afair is documented on the official docs.freesmartphone.org website. |
| 00:41.18 | tim_abell | ah ha, thanks PaulFertser, the dbus approach would be much better |
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| 00:45.51 | tim_abell | mdbus to the rescue |
| 00:47.15 | tim_abell | mdbus org.freesmartphone.Gypsy.Position |
| 00:47.16 | tim_abell | Service name not found |
| 00:47.18 | tim_abell | hrmph |
| 00:49.52 | tim_abell | i have fso-gpsd running apparently, does that conflict with gypsy? |
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| 00:52.51 | tim_abell | i'm confused |
| 00:53.16 | tim_abell | should i install the gypsy package? |
| 00:56.47 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: no, fso has that already. |
| 00:56.54 | tim_abell | oh |
| 00:57.06 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: fso-gpsd is kind of a proxy that speaks gypsy and translates that to gpsd protocol. |
| 00:57.25 | tim_abell | hrm |
| 00:57.29 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: mdbus2 is much better btw. |
| 00:57.35 | tim_abell | any idea why my dbus call didn't work? |
| 00:57.38 | tim_abell | oh, ok |
| 00:58.08 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: you're using a wrong busname i'm afraid. |
| 00:58.13 | tim_abell | ah |
| 00:58.20 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: i guess that'd be mdbus2 org.freesmartphone.ogpsd |
| 00:58.58 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: you can use mdbus2 (and mdbus) to introspect available busses, then objects, pathes and functions. |
| 00:59.23 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: also mdbus2 can be used in an interactive way with readline, completion and history support! |
| 01:00.05 | tim_abell | very nice |
| 01:01.33 | tim_abell | hmm. no sign of anything gps related |
| 01:01.36 | tim_abell | # mdbus2 |
| 01:01.36 | tim_abell | org.enlightenment.wm.service |
| 01:01.36 | tim_abell | org.freedesktop.DBus |
| 01:01.36 | tim_abell | org.freedesktop.Notifications |
| 01:01.36 | tim_abell | org.gnome.keyring |
| 01:01.45 | tim_abell | that's everything it seems |
| 01:02.14 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: i have to warn though that this gypsy-inspired api didn't get wide acceptance and it looks like a developer who is serious about using gps (especially if it's not only for freerunner) should consider running the upstream gpsd and use its libgps for interfacing. |
| 01:02.18 | tim_abell | this was supposed to be a quick app :-/ |
| 01:02.18 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: mdbus2 -s |
| 01:02.21 | PaulFertser | (to use the system bus) |
| 01:02.45 | tim_abell | it's not a serious app i'm playing with |
| 01:02.57 | tim_abell | just something to note down speed limits easily for openstreetmap |
| 01:02.59 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: yes, the fso docs could have been better but it's so obvious for those who already had some experience with it... |
| 01:03.06 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: just use mdbus2 -s |
| 01:03.09 | tim_abell | that's the trouble with docs |
| 01:03.09 | PaulFertser | (for the system bus) |
| 01:03.24 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: also, for gps to work you have to request the resource first. |
| 01:03.35 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: do you know about FSO resource system concept? |
| 01:03.38 | PaulFertser | In fact it's easy. |
| 01:03.46 | tim_abell | haven't heard of it |
| 01:03.56 | tim_abell | ah, much bigger list this time |
| 01:04.00 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources |
| 01:04.04 | tim_abell | including gypsy |
| 01:04.40 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: simple ``fsoraw -r GPS yourcoolapp'' would suffice but since you're writing an app anyway it would be better to request the resource from inside of it. |
| 01:05.57 | tim_abell | yes i was wondering about that |
| 01:07.26 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: time to sleep for me, hope you've got all the needed pointers. You should have asked earlier ;) |
| 01:07.48 | tim_abell | i didn't know i had a question earlier :) |
| 01:08.03 | tim_abell | though I was nearly there, hadn't noticed the other trees |
| 01:08.24 | tim_abell | ta for your help |
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| 01:10.16 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: welcome, and good luck hacking :) |
| 01:11.51 | tim_abell | MDBUS2> org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition |
| 01:11.51 | tim_abell | (7,1294189894,51.445808700000001,-0.9097307,51.515000000000001) |
| 01:11.53 | tim_abell | yay |
| 01:12.31 | tim_abell | no you know where i am :D |
| 01:12.33 | tim_abell | now |
| 01:20.22 | tim_abell | hurrah, sorted |
| 01:20.24 | tim_abell | laters |
| 01:20.29 | tim_abell | thanks again PaulFertser |
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