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| 13:10.04 | navaati | hello |
| 13:11.43 | navaati | do the moko need an antena to make GPS work ? i dont succeed in having it doing a fix |
| 13:13.38 | PaulF | navaati: no, it doesn't. |
| 13:13.54 | PaulF | navaati: i mean it does but it has an internal antenna already integrated. |
| 13:14.47 | navaati | :/ so why can't i get a fix... and it doesn't work with any distrib |
| 13:15.08 | navaati | does it usually work, for most people ? |
| 13:15.16 | PaulF | Sure |
| 13:16.12 | navaati | and does it need to be connected to GPRS by the same time to work ? |
| 13:16.14 | nullix | sure it works, it is slow to get fix sometime it might take 5 minutes |
| 13:16.32 | nullix | navaati: no GPS has no need of GPRS |
| 13:16.57 | nullix | i often use tangogps and it works like a charm |
| 13:17.11 | rhkfin | navaati: what distro do you use? Are you outside when trying to get the fix? Are there any houses/trees/something around you that prevents the GPS signal from getting to you..? |
| 13:17.31 | nullix | when i use it in my car i disable power suspend, else it stops and sometimes doesn't recover wihout a reboot. |
| 13:18.00 | navaati | ah ! maybe being outside is a good clue >< |
| 13:18.07 | rhkfin | navaati: :) |
| 13:18.08 | nullix | wiht tangogps you can see how many satelites it get |
| 13:18.29 | rhkfin | omgpsalso shows the location of the satellites on the sky |
| 13:18.31 | rhkfin | omgps also.. |
| 13:18.32 | nullix | navaati: sure it won't work if you have no view over the sky |
| 13:18.33 | navaati | (i tried on hackable:1 and now qtmoko) |
| 13:18.56 | nullix | hackable works for sure. |
| 13:20.02 | nullix | even in the car gps should be near front glass else it doesn't receive the signal in a good manner. |
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| 13:20.52 | nullix | to speed up position detectionin tangogps you set your current position to the correct one, it accelerate computations to synchronize satellites informations. |
| 13:20.53 | navaati | hum, ok, i'll try to wait 5min while being outside, another day |
| 13:21.37 | navaati | and the OSs don't support AGPS for the moment ? 5min is much time... |
| 13:22.38 | navaati | on Iphone (ok, bad reference), the fix is almost instantaneous |
| 13:23.22 | rhkfin | navaati: it fetches the position of the satellites from internet |
| 13:23.32 | rhkfin | (check opkg.org and agps from there) |
| 13:24.20 | rhkfin | you can try to compile it to debian and make it fetch you the position. Helps in getting the fix faster a lot |
| 13:24.31 | rhkfin | (5min might not be enough....) |
| 13:24.58 | navaati | not embedded in any distrib ? |
| 13:25.10 | rhkfin | nullix: are you sure that tango uses the map view information to find satellites faster....? |
| 13:25.16 | rhkfin | navaati: don't think so |
| 13:25.34 | rhkfin | i think ~all recent distros store the latest know position of the satellites |
| 13:25.46 | rhkfin | but ~none of them is able to fetch it from the net by default |
| 13:25.51 | nullix | rhkfin: if it is not the case then it is psychological effect :-) |
| 13:26.15 | rhkfin | nullix: absolutely! |
| 13:26.29 | nullix | at least it was what i felt, but might just be that last known position was near the new one. |
| 13:26.31 | rhkfin | navaati: actaully omgps has ublox integrated |
| 13:26.38 | rhkfin | nullix: propably that |
| 13:26.43 | rhkfin | navaati: i mean agps |
| 13:27.46 | rhkfin | navaati: U-BLOX binary protocol is used by default, efficient. Automatically switch to ogpsd upon conflict. |
| 13:27.50 | rhkfin | U-BLOX AGPS online, which cuts TTFF down to about 10s. |
| 13:27.57 | rhkfin | http://code.google.com/p/omgps/ |
| 13:28.06 | rhkfin | dump aiding data on close and after AGPS online, feed these data to GPS receiver on start. |
| 13:28.18 | navaati | omgps is a deamon or an UI ? |
| 13:28.40 | rhkfin | UI |
| 13:29.11 | rhkfin | "GPS GUI application for OpenMoko mobile phone. |
| 13:29.42 | rhkfin | Knows ~everything tangogps knows and something more |
| 13:30.12 | rhkfin | I'd suggest to try that if you want to have quick fixes |
| 13:30.22 | rhkfin | After the fix you can start other gps apps |
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| 13:33.19 | navaati | hum, it's been on the edge of my window for 10min and i didn't get any fix |
| 13:33.29 | navaati | (neronGPS is the app) |
| 13:34.45 | navaati | and omgps needs FSO, so not QtMoko nor hackable... i'd need debian but i think my sd card reader is broken |
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| 14:14.07 | skamster | hello all |
| 14:15.26 | navaati | hi |
| 14:15.27 | skamster | i've got 2 problems.. first: qtmoko tells me, my sms-storage is full. if i delete a sms, it tells me the simcard is not ready - but i couldn't recive sms yet (i think, it's just full on simcard but not otherwhise..) |
| 14:16.16 | navaati | couldn't you put the sim in another phone an delete SMSs ? |
| 14:16.23 | skamster | second: all the phoneui-app's on shr make just a grey screen.. i use the current shr-version + updates and now also mokosuite2 (but the problem is older) |
| 14:16.35 | skamster | i don't got any here.. |
| 14:16.57 | skamster | i think about to use the sim-card-manager on shr -> but also grey screen |
| 14:18.04 | skamster | navaati: another idea is to use fso over console.. but i've forgot the command to access it the dbus-way.. may you know it? |
| 14:21.16 | navaati | mdbus ? |
| 14:22.18 | skamster | yes :D |
| 14:22.31 | skamster | exactly.. thanks! |
| 14:24.57 | navaati | hum... but qtmoko doesn't use FSO... |
| 14:25.30 | skamster | no - but with mdbus i could delete the messages from the sim-card.. so the sim got space again |
| 14:25.35 | skamster | i hope, it work |
| 14:25.36 | skamster | s |
| 14:26.37 | navaati | oh, you run 2 distros, ok |
| 14:47.32 | skamster | yes.. mmh, sms-space isn't full anymore, but i'm again not able to recive sms :s |
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| 15:51.45 | navaati | bye |
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