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| 11:14.09 | SanTah | hi how can i configure that my wlan allways conect and without the manager width i had this some days ago but now it doesnt work anymore |
| 11:14.27 | SanTah | wicd |
| 11:15.19 | SanTah | thats in my interfaces#wlan networking |
| 11:15.19 | SanTah | auto eth0 |
| 11:15.19 | SanTah | iface eth0 inet static |
| 11:15.19 | SanTah | wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 11:15.19 | SanTah | address 192.168.100.202 |
| 11:15.19 | SanTah | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 11:15.20 | SanTah | network 192.168.100.0 |
| 11:15.20 | SanTah | gateway 192.168.100.2 |
| 11:15.59 | SanTah | and the wpa_supplicant.conf is also correct |
| 11:16.31 | SanTah | there are my key and essid inside |
| 11:17.00 | SanTah | do i have to deinstall wicd |
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| 14:06.45 | uma_ | hello |
| 14:08.47 | uma_ | hello |
| 14:11.55 | openick | hi |
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| 14:12.31 | openick | hi I have GTA01 working, require some help |
| 14:13.44 | openick | hi matokal |
| 14:13.48 | openick | matokla |
| 14:17.13 | SpeedEvil | What's the problem? |
| 14:19.21 | openick | I have my sim connected, phone works, there is audio on incoming and outgoing calls, but don't have ringtone |
| 14:19.30 | openick | what do I do? (GTA01) |
| 14:21.11 | openick | Tried uname -r and ls /lib/modules but this is what I found: |
| 14:21.11 | openick | name@computer:~$ sudo cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 |
| 14:21.11 | openick | Connected. |
| 14:21.12 | openick | GTA01Bv4 # uname -r |
| 14:21.12 | openick | Unknown command 'uname' - try 'help' |
| 14:21.12 | openick | GTA01Bv4 # sudo uname -r |
| 14:21.12 | openick | Unknown command 'sudo' - try 'help' |
| 14:21.13 | openick | GTA01Bv4 # ls /lib/modules |
| 14:21.13 | openick | Scanning JFFS2 FS: get_fl_mem_nand: can't alloc 872080792 bytes |
| 14:21.14 | openick | off = 0x1e2f4 magic 0x1985 type 0x0 node.totlen = 872080792 |
| 14:21.14 | openick | done. |
| 14:21.15 | openick | find_inode failed for name=lib |
| 14:21.15 | openick | ls: Failed to scan jffs2 file structure |
| 14:21.16 | openick | What do I do? |
| 14:22.07 | SpeedEvil | umm |
| 14:22.31 | SpeedEvil | That looks like massive filesystem corruption. |
| 14:23.21 | SpeedEvil | I had similar results some time ago when I flashed a smaller jffs filesystem on top of a big one, without wiping |
| 14:24.12 | openick | thanks SpeedEvil, but if the file system is corrupt, how is the phone booting and connecting to the mobile network |
| 14:24.16 | openick | makes and receives calls |
| 14:24.31 | openick | the gui is fine, except that I have difficulty scrolling |
| 14:25.52 | SpeedEvil | jffs seems to do that |
| 14:26.29 | SpeedEvil | umm |
| 14:26.35 | openick | what should I do now? |
| 14:26.53 | SpeedEvil | is that actually booted linux? |
| 14:27.10 | openick | I don't have a basic idea of unix / linux commands, but somehow followed the instructions line by line from online instructions, set it up |
| 14:27.13 | SpeedEvil | I vaguely recall that teh bootloader has a limited shell which responds like that |
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| 14:27.35 | SpeedEvil | I'd say wayit for someone wih more clue |
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| 14:28.36 | openick | have ubuntu on my laptop, if I have to find the version of kernel, version of openmoko to post it here, what commands do I give on mode GTA01bv4# |
| 14:29.49 | SpeedEvil | umm |
| 14:30.02 | SpeedEvil | you should be connecting to it over ssh in some ways |
| 14:30.11 | SpeedEvil | that's not linux booting |
| 14:30.18 | SpeedEvil | sorry - afk - good luck |
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| 14:36.48 | DrGrov | Hello |
| 14:36.59 | openick | hello |
| 14:37.13 | DrGrov | Thinking about buying a Neo Freerunner which has been in use for the past 1 - 1,5 years for about 100 +/- 20 |
| 14:37.36 | DrGrov | I wonder if that 100 price is reasonable or should I go up to 150 as the seller is asking for? |
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| 14:41.48 | mickey|zzZZzz | were any hardware fixes applied to the device? |
| 14:42.06 | mickey|zzZZzz | if not, I'd rather try to get him down to 80 |
| 14:42.12 | mickey|zzZZzz | if so, 100 sound ok |
| 14:44.29 | DocScrutinizer | told him about buzzfix and A7 already |
| 14:45.12 | DocScrutinizer | aiui the device isn't mainly for phone usage |
| 14:45.31 | DocScrutinizer | s/the/ DrGrov |
| 14:47.44 | DocScrutinizer | ponders to sell a few of the dozens in his shelf as well |
| 14:49.53 | DocScrutinizer | what's the "new golden SHR" after 0808 legendary version? |
| 14:51.44 | DrGrov | Yes, I told him but it did not have buzzfix and A7 so I skipped the deal |
| 14:52.22 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: You have some Freerunners for sale? |
| 14:52.32 | DocScrutinizer | pondering |
| 14:52.52 | DocScrutinizer | the pile is a tad too high ;-D |
| 14:53.22 | DrGrov | LOL |
| 14:53.44 | DocScrutinizer | ~joerg |
| 14:53.45 | apt | joerg is probably a HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, usually known as DocScrutinizer |
| 14:54.35 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 14:54.35 | apt | DocScrutinizer: thanks |
| 14:55.01 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: perhaps if you would be interested in selling one relatively cheap if you got several? :) |
| 14:56.33 | DocScrutinizer | need inspection, every single one of them. Either hold private data, or screwed botloaders, or case sticker ser# doesn't match the mainboard inside. See I juggled with them n all ways yu could think of |
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| 14:57.58 | DocScrutinizer | might find one or two that are unmodified and complete and working. Probably no A7 / buzzfixed one though, that I'd want to sell. You could get buzzfix anyway |
| 14:58.51 | DocScrutinizer | lemme think about it while I get a coffee in a beergarden |
| 14:58.55 | DocScrutinizer | waves |
| 15:00.36 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Ok, get back to me when you got time :) |
| 15:01.58 | DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: (skipped the deal) if it's an A6 and you get it for 80, then you may have buzzfix according to the docs I linked to in other chan, and get a "usable" phone. Or you just test if performance/audio quality is sufficient for the people you call, without buzzfix |
| 15:02.38 | DocScrutinizer | wonders why he's pushing down the resales prices :-S |
| 15:02.42 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: I would not get it for 80, I would need to pay the 150 |
| 15:03.49 | DocScrutinizer | need to think about what I'm doing here. Maybe 150 is a reasonable price, depending on whether market is paying that much for used FR |
| 15:04.58 | DrGrov | The problem is that he would not sell it for less than 150... Which I consider to be too much. |
| 15:05.19 | DrGrov | Of course, the 150 is not a too big problem if the market is paying that much. |
| 15:06.23 | DocScrutinizer | well, generally for a electronic device in use for 18 months, a price <50% of new is normal, I'd think |
| 15:06.58 | DocScrutinizer | but then otoh that largely varies depending on particular class / brand of device |
| 15:07.21 | DocScrutinizer | honestly I have no idea, I never bought or sold a FR |
| 15:07.39 | DrGrov | Okay. No worries about that you do not have any idea :) |
| 15:09.16 | DocScrutinizer | just don't want to do a bad favour to all our users, by spoiling the resale prices out of a adhoc estimation based on ... well nothing |
| 15:09.38 | DrGrov | I understand, that is no worries. |
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| 15:11.47 | DocScrutinizer | check past sales on ebay, maybe. should give you an idea about resale price. Watch for either A7 board revision or alternatively buzzfix rework applied. this for sure is more expensive class of devices than those without |
| 15:13.15 | DrGrov | Okay, I will check over on ebay. I really would like to have one for the car. |
| 15:17.27 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: thanks for the help :) |
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| 15:34.45 | Gabrys | I paid roughly $150 for my FR |
| 15:35.02 | Gabrys | it was used, had two batteries, all headsets and stuff |
| 15:35.10 | Gabrys | and 512 M uSD |
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| 15:41.06 | openick | hi |
| 15:41.40 | openick | is this the channel for openmoko help? |
| 15:41.53 | openick | Or is there a separate channel? |
| 15:42.14 | lindi- | openick: openmoko hardware or software? |
| 15:42.40 | openick | software issue, related to GTA01 some basic help |
| 15:42.48 | lindi- | openick: SHR? |
| 15:43.20 | openick | lindi, sorry I am unfamiliar with abbreviations here, what is SHR? |
| 15:43.29 | lindi- | openick: SHR is a linux distribution |
| 15:43.46 | lindi- | openick: what distribution are you using on your GTA01? |
| 15:44.25 | openick | NO, I have ubuntu on my computer, installed the software follwing how to flash instructions given for GTA01 in the openmoko wiki |
| 15:44.27 | openick | the phone works |
| 15:44.50 | openick | But how do i find the kernel version and the other details of the software that I have installed? |
| 15:44.57 | lindi- | openick: the wiki changes all the time, when exactly did you follow the instructions? ;) |
| 15:45.05 | lindi- | openick: and which wiki page? |
| 15:45.05 | DocScrutinizer | ~convert 150 USD to EUR |
| 15:45.30 | lindi- | openick: "uname -r" command prints kernel version |
| 15:46.01 | openick | but there is an error message when I tried uname -r |
| 15:46.19 | lindi- | openick: what error message is it? |
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| 15:47.58 | openick | mom lindi |
| 15:48.35 | openick | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.29 | lindi- | openick: "uname -r" is a gnu/linux command |
| 15:49.34 | lindi- | openick: you are talking to the boot loader |
| 15:49.43 | lindi- | openick: you need to boot before you can run "uname -r" |
| 15:50.02 | lindi- | openick: are you familiar with boot loaders like lilo or grub? |
| 15:50.47 | openick | no... |
| 15:50.53 | openick | I am not familiar with unix at all |
| 15:51.16 | openick | have some very basic working knowledge to follow instructions, line by line, for use in termainal |
| 15:51.28 | openick | followed instructions at page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_1973 |
| 15:51.38 | lindi- | openick: ok. I am not sure if GTA01 is very useful then |
| 15:51.58 | DocScrutinizer | http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/unsorted/neo-ssh |
| 15:52.04 | openick | and now have neo GTA01 working, the GUI is fine, except for a scrolling issue, sim card connects me to the network, can make and receive calls |
| 15:52.19 | lindi- | openick: which file did you exactly flash? |
| 15:52.33 | openick | the only problem is that I don't know how to find the file I flashed |
| 15:53.00 | DocScrutinizer | though scratch that, assumes PC is linux :-D |
| 15:53.04 | openick | I think I did ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01-20070501054014.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 15:53.13 | openick | pc is ubuntu |
| 15:53.18 | openick | ubuntu 10 something |
| 15:53.42 | DocScrutinizer | 20070501 yay |
| 15:54.20 | openick | have the phone connected |
| 15:55.08 | DocScrutinizer | tbh I have no idea what version / vlavour of OS that is at all |
| 15:55.16 | openick | now on this modeL |
| 15:55.18 | openick | ~$ cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 Connected. In: usbtty Out: usbtty Err: usbtty GTA01Bv4 # Enabling automatic fast charge GTA01Bv4 # |
| 15:55.33 | lindi- | openick: ok |
| 15:55.45 | openick | uname -r says unknown command |
| 15:55.47 | lindi- | openick: 2007 is so old that you probably can't even build it from source code anymore asily |
| 15:55.58 | openick | GTA01Bv4 # uname -r Unknown command 'uname' - try 'help' GTA01Bv4 # |
| 15:56.04 | lindi- | openick: so even a skilled person is not going to be able to support you easily |
| 15:56.25 | openick | lindi, I have flashed it, the phone works alright |
| 15:56.32 | DocScrutinizer | try 'help' |
| 15:56.34 | lindi- | openick: but? |
| 15:56.40 | openick | phone vibrates on incoming calls, the audio on calls is good, both incoming and outgoing |
| 15:56.45 | openick | but I don't hear it ringing |
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| 15:57.01 | lindi- | openick: I don't think we can help much :( |
| 15:57.02 | DocScrutinizer | waves |
| 15:57.03 | openick | the gui is fine, but have a minor scrolling problem |
| 15:57.21 | openick | where do I find help lindi? |
| 15:57.40 | DocScrutinizer | (<lindi-> openick: I don't think we can help much :( ) except suggesting to get recent OS/distro |
| 15:58.14 | openick | how do I switch to a recent OS? |
| 15:58.18 | DocScrutinizer | openick: you're like asking about details for Win3.11 |
| 15:58.25 | openick | How do I delete the installation ? |
| 15:58.33 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: well I would not recommend GTA for a person without *nix experience |
| 15:58.43 | openick | NO, not win 3.11 docswcrutinizer |
| 15:58.50 | openick | OK, you were figurative |
| 15:58.53 | DocScrutinizer | ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./<my-recent-OS> |
| 15:59.48 | openick | what exactly do I type in place of <my-recent-OS> |
| 15:59.57 | openick | ( I am so dumb Doc) |
| 16:01.03 | DocScrutinizer | sorry I'm gone now. Get help to install SHR to a uSD card, and boot GTA01 from that. Quite some people should be able to tell you. If not, /join #openmoko-cdevel and ask there |
| 16:01.18 | lindi- | openick: I recommend that you learn some basic *nix first |
| 16:01.45 | openick | Thansk Doc, LIndi |
| 16:01.59 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: he's using ubuntu, so he knows all he needs to get SHR |
| 16:02.35 | lindi- | maybe |
| 16:02.36 | DocScrutinizer | could be worse, he might use Win7 and ask how to use flasher |
| 16:02.52 | DocScrutinizer | afk, bbl |
| 16:03.04 | lindi- | just trying to warn in advance :) |
| 16:03.10 | openick | I installed Ubuntu from an easy to install disto, but know so little about linux / unix commands |
| 16:03.17 | openick | I get along somehow |
| 16:03.56 | openick | get stuck a little on command mode, but could come as far as get a neo working |
| 16:04.01 | lindi- | even skilled people have switched to another device after struggling :) |
| 16:04.43 | openick | the point is that the phone is working fine, I am proud of my achievement, given the fact that the command line is difficult for me, very difficult for me |
| 16:04.49 | DocScrutinizer | be supportive and helping, not scare new users away :-) |
| 16:05.15 | openick | so I don't want to disturb the installation, and without risking it, want to try and upgrade to a current version somehow |
| 16:05.26 | openick | and then will get freerunner and try |
| 16:05.40 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: if somebody is willing to learn, by no means tell him 'it's too difficult for you' |
| 16:05.56 | openick | the basic issues are, I must be making some mistake with the uname -r command |
| 16:06.05 | openick | how do I get that right |
| 16:06.11 | openick | sudo uname -r ? |
| 16:06.26 | DocScrutinizer | openick: the nice thing about SHR on uSD is, you won't destroy what you got now |
| 16:06.33 | openick | Thanks Doc so much for your +attitude |
| 16:06.43 | openick | oh, that is excellent |
| 16:07.12 | openick | I get a SD, insert in in my card reader on my laptop and install? |
| 16:08.07 | DocScrutinizer | yes, basically |
| 16:09.37 | openick | I have a sandisck 512mb microsd card, can I try it in the slot beneath the sim card slot? |
| 16:09.56 | openick | It is a spare that came with the neo 1973 GTA01 |
| 16:11.32 | quatrox | openick: yes |
| 16:11.43 | quatrox | that is the correct place |
| 16:15.21 | quatrox | openick: just download an image such as http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/lite-om-gta02.tar.gz |
| 16:15.40 | quatrox | then put your uSD card in your computer |
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| 16:16.14 | quatrox | openick: it should be automounted to /media/<somewhere> |
| 16:16.46 | quatrox | openick: then open a terminal and cd /media/<somewhere> |
| 16:17.31 | quatrox | then sudo tar xzpf ~/Downloads/lite-om-gta02.tar.gz |
| 16:18.23 | quatrox | then cd / ; sudo umount /media/<somewhere> |
| 16:18.24 | openick | hello quatrox |
| 16:18.34 | openick | I got disconnected, went offline |
| 16:18.42 | openick | so I must have missed part of what you said |
| 16:18.50 | quatrox | I will repeat |
| 16:19.11 | openick | your instutions are visible from line "it should be automounted to /media.<somewhere> |
| 16:21.00 | openick | It is /media/D03A-D53C |
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| 16:21.03 | quatrox | I sent you a pm |
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| 16:21.21 | openick | didn't get your pm quatrox |
| 16:21.39 | quatrox | strange |
| 16:21.43 | quatrox | try to pm me |
| 16:22.57 | quatrox | hmm... |
| 16:23.03 | openick | quatrox, I am using the online verson irc2go, so there must be somelimitation |
| 16:23.18 | openick | would you be kind enough to mail me at isolatednet at gmail? |
| 16:23.42 | quatrox | openick: sure |
| 16:24.11 | lindi- | offline version of IRC would be interesting :) |
| 16:25.12 | openick | I have an irc cleinet smuxi, tried it, it had its own limitations as well |
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| 16:26.12 | openick_ | hello |
| 16:27.12 | openick_ | hello quatrosx |
| 16:27.17 | openick_ | hello quatrox |
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| 16:27.53 | openick_ | quatrox, now I am trying this on smuxi, see that the chats that I send out appears on the window |
| 16:28.10 | openick_ | I see your name on the list in the left, but when I right click on your name, there is no menu |
| 16:28.18 | openick_ | so don't know how to send a pm |
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| 16:28.56 | quatrox | openick: I hope you got the mail |
| 16:29.47 | openick_ | yes quatrox, I got your mail, sent a quick, interim reply |
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| 16:38.42 | quatrox | openick: I will eat soon... good luck and feel free to send a mail if there is anything |
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| 17:24.04 | openick | hello |
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| 17:58.07 | openick | hello |
| 17:59.45 | quatrox | openick: hello |
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| 20:04.36 | openick | hello |
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| 20:34.12 | Martix | openick is bot? :D |
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