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| 01:20.17 | mick_laptop | hi everyone, i've tried to get android on my openmoko to no availe |
| 01:20.22 | mick_laptop | s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19 |
| 01:20.29 | mick_laptop | then after another reboot: |
| 01:20.34 | mick_laptop | after rebooting i get: CRCFAIL 0x1a3f again |
| 01:20.40 | mick_laptop | i think i need a newer kernel |
| 01:20.59 | mick_laptop | what should i flash first? bootloader, then kernel? |
| 01:21.13 | mick_laptop | http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/ <-- figured i'd get it from here |
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| 03:36.40 | mick_laptop | when i have this thing plugged into the power outlet does it charge if the aux button doesnt turn red? |
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| 06:39.59 | PaulFertser | mick_laptop: as a general idea, charging works properly only when the system is fully booted. |
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| 10:07.10 | PaulFertser | JaMa: hi there |
| 10:07.47 | PaulFertser | JaMa: well... I decided not to go to the greatest non-commercial open-air music fest because i was afraid i'd have to go ~100km in rain alone :/ |
| 10:07.52 | PaulFertser | The weather sucks here. |
| 10:14.09 | PaulFertser | JaMa: "A man walks by a playground and sees a little girl in a dress on a swing. He says: "Hey, girl, why are you wearing a dress, it's too cold outside", Girl: "Because it's summer", Man: "Just look at the temperature, it's really cold now", Girl: "Well, it's still a summer, ain't it?", Man: "There's plenty of snow on the ground, how on earth can this be summer?!", Girl: "That's some motherfucking kind of summer indeed" |
| 10:15.41 | PaulFertser | Apparently /me sucks at telling jokes |
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| 11:04.41 | JaMa | PaulFertser: hehe |
| 11:05.06 | JaMa | PaulFertser: while reading I wasn't sure if it's joke or true story from real life :) |
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| 12:51.54 | mick_laptop | damn i think i bricked my phone |
| 12:52.13 | JaMa | mick_laptop: gta01? |
| 12:52.29 | mick_laptop | gta02 |
| 12:52.54 | mick_laptop | nm, it started to work (randomly) |
| 12:52.57 | JaMa | gta02 is harder to brick, what did you do and why do you think it's bricked |
| 12:52.58 | mick_laptop | *sigh* |
| 12:53.00 | SpeedEvil | have you soldered on the motherboard? |
| 12:53.07 | SpeedEvil | If not - you basically can't. |
| 12:53.25 | mick_laptop | well i tried to get the thing to boot for a long time |
| 12:53.38 | mick_laptop | held down the power for minutes at a time |
| 12:53.45 | mick_laptop | no response |
| 12:53.55 | mick_laptop | now, it did come up |
| 12:54.10 | JaMa | SpeedEvil: it's safe to dump mtd[245]? |
| 12:54.17 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 12:54.34 | SpeedEvil | there is a backup flash that you cannot write to with the standard hardware. |
| 12:54.37 | mick_laptop | now to try and put android on this thing (again) |
| 12:54.40 | SpeedEvil | That contains a copy of uboot |
| 12:54.52 | JaMa | SpeedEvil: you mean NOR right? |
| 12:55.04 | mick_laptop | has anyone put out a recent version in jffs? |
| 12:55.17 | mick_laptop | or do i need to go the sd card route? |
| 12:55.36 | JaMa | mick_laptop: shr is always available with jffs images.. |
| 12:55.38 | mick_laptop | since that didn't wfm, i just figured i'd flash the device w/ a decent jffs |
| 12:55.55 | JaMa | SpeedEvil: one of those is not so easy to restore IIRC |
| 12:55.56 | JaMa | mtd2: 00040000 00020000 "depr-ub-env" |
| 12:55.56 | JaMa | mtd4: 000a0000 00020000 "depr" |
| 12:55.56 | JaMa | mtd5: 00040000 00020000 "identity-ext2" |
| 12:56.07 | JaMa | PaulFertser: you probably know ^^ |
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| 12:56.57 | mick_laptop | i'll just go w/ shr for now |
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| 12:57.06 | mick_laptop | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ from here -right? |
| 12:57.12 | mick_laptop | or is stable prefered? |
| 12:57.27 | mick_laptop | i'm not sure if it is like debian in that way (where most people just use testing) |
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| 12:59.50 | JaMa | mick_laptop: feel free to use unstable if you're not depending on FR as daily phone |
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| 13:32.08 | *** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | German folks might consider to join #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 |
| 13:34.55 | mick_laptop | ah "finland" |
| 13:35.01 | mick_laptop | see, i asked about the US ;) |
| 13:35.20 | mick_laptop | they are scared that a malfunctioning phone will screw w/ the network |
| 13:35.25 | mick_laptop | i think |
| 13:35.58 | mjr | You also asked which one I was using. It's not my fault you made assumptions :þ |
| 13:36.49 | mick_laptop | not everyone is from the US? *gasp* |
| 13:36.57 | mick_laptop | i'm just kidding ;) |
| 13:38.25 | mjr | anyway, I really doubt they block phones routinely, it's one of the huge benefits of gsm that "any" compliant phone will work with any network |
| 13:38.45 | mjr | (modulo frequencies and all, yeah...) |
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| 13:48.15 | mick_laptop | they have something where they put the mac (or some equivalent) into their computer as an "allowed device" |
| 13:48.26 | mick_laptop | when they saw my phone, they were like "ummm, no" |
| 13:48.53 | mjr | who're "they"? |
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| 13:49.27 | mick_laptop | the people at the store, when i tried to get a plan |
| 13:49.34 | mick_laptop | i think it was t-mobile |
| 13:49.54 | mjr | and they're just being bastards then, but the US mobile industry being the anticompetitive piece of excrement that it is, I suppose it's not too surprising |
| 13:50.11 | mjr | one would think though that they allowed random phones to roam there at least... |
| 13:50.25 | mick_laptop | yup, they are bastards |
| 13:50.49 | mick_laptop | the better business beaureu has a separate department that deals just w/ cellphone suckyness |
| 13:51.00 | mick_laptop | it is their version of /dev/null :) |
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| 13:52.03 | mick_laptop | new SHR seems pretty sweet |
| 13:52.12 | mjr | anyway, I suppose AT&T is "the other" option around there, bastards too as I understand but ... |
| 13:52.22 | mick_laptop | even worse |
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| 14:19.17 | PaulFertser | JaMa|GoNe: the device would work just fine without an identity partition (it will lack persistent usb mac). And Qi doesn't need any u-boot env. |
| 14:27.20 | mick_laptop | shr (unstable) just crashed after a few minutes (enlightenment had an issue) - so I'm going to try testing |
| 14:32.48 | emsyr | mick_laptop: did you do a fresh install of the latest shr-u? |
| 14:41.45 | mick_laptop | emsyr: from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ |
| 14:41.56 | mick_laptop | used the OM Flasher |
| 14:42.54 | emsyr | mick_laptop: and you' re having a problem? |
| 14:43.25 | mick_laptop | enlightenment crashed after a few minutes of a fresh flash |
| 14:43.30 | mick_laptop | so i'm trying testing |
| 14:43.35 | mick_laptop | flashing now |
| 14:44.10 | mick_laptop | after enlightenment crashed (it told me "enlightenment crashed....") it became a bit unstable |
| 14:44.23 | mick_laptop | unresponsive at times and just acted "funny" |
| 14:45.52 | emsyr | I've been using the latest testing for the last few weeks |
| 14:46.23 | emsyr | It's stable enough but has some minor problems too... |
| 14:48.11 | mick_laptop | i wanted to try android but i never did get that to work |
| 14:48.17 | mick_laptop | i followed a few guides |
| 14:48.30 | mick_laptop | i tried w/ an ext3 + vfat - then only vfat |
| 14:48.59 | mick_laptop | i just untar'ed the contents in there - but i think it could have been failing because my bootloader was old |
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| 14:49.59 | mick_laptop | i had gotten a CRCFail message before which looked like it wanted a newer kernel |
| 14:50.18 | emsyr | any other distribution? |
| 14:51.30 | mick_laptop | have i tried another one? |
| 14:51.34 | mick_laptop | not recently |
| 14:52.00 | mick_laptop | i kind of got fed up w/ trying to get something to work in a reliable way before |
| 14:52.09 | mick_laptop | and get a carrier that did't suck |
| 14:52.34 | mick_laptop | when i saw the FOSDEM thing w/ android on om - i got interested again |
| 14:53.43 | emsyr | you can tried again then.. |
| 14:53.54 | mick_laptop | yup will do |
| 14:53.57 | emsyr | *try it |
| 14:54.02 | mick_laptop | i wanted to try SHR again though |
| 14:54.04 | mick_laptop | seemed nice |
| 14:54.20 | mick_laptop | and if i can get wifi+gps+pidgin i'll be happy :) |
| 14:54.50 | emsyr | reliable enough to use with your fr |
| 14:55.00 | mick_laptop | fr? |
| 14:55.10 | emsyr | freerunner |
| 14:55.16 | mick_laptop | i'd love it if i could use my OM to make *reliable* calls |
| 14:55.24 | mick_laptop | you know, where there is no jitter ;) |
| 14:55.48 | emsyr | the latest one has problems with the wifi connections though |
| 14:56.02 | emsyr | you can try the previous one |
| 14:56.23 | mick_laptop | latest SHR or android? |
| 14:56.44 | mick_laptop | emsyr: what is the link to the one that you recommend i check out? |
| 14:58.37 | emsyr | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100426-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 14:58.52 | emsyr | for nand |
| 14:59.10 | emsyr | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100426-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 14:59.15 | emsyr | for sd card |
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| 15:17.40 | mick_laptop | as for android "sorry i was not able to find installation files sorry" |
| 15:18.34 | mick_laptop | at least it had the descency to appologize :) |
| 15:20.57 | mick_laptop | tried w/ another one just fat - unable to load mmc fatload |
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| 18:43.29 | slaxxer | few minor problems with shr-unstable--like 2 programs that pop up by their self after suspend |
| 18:43.56 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.13 | slaxxer | gsm works very well |
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| 18:45.12 | slaxxer | i can leave my wireless area then return an it hooks back up very well |
| 18:49.44 | Fox_Muldr | is sms sending/receiving reliably for you? this was the reason why i changed back to my old cellphone a few weeks ago |
| 18:51.35 | Fox_Muldr | everything else worked quite well, but without to be sure that sms worked (there is no visual feedback when sending) it was not reliably enough to be my primary phone :( |
| 18:52.13 | Fox_Muldr | i missed quite some sms and some i sended never arrived |
| 18:52.25 | undrwater | Fox_Muldr: did you try opimd-notify? |
| 18:52.46 | undrwater | i guess that wouldn't solve that problem |
| 18:53.12 | Fox_Muldr | i only new about opimd-notify after i wrote this in a mail in the mailinglist. but i don't think that it changes anything about the sms problems |
| 18:53.41 | undrwater | no...it doesn't |
| 18:53.43 | Fox_Muldr | but i really like opimd-notify. it should be default enabled in shr-u :) |
| 18:53.50 | Fox_Muldr | looks so nice |
| 18:53.51 | undrwater | it is nice |
| 18:56.57 | Fox_Muldr | i think it would be very helpfull if after sending a sms there were a visual feedback from fso if the delivery to the gsm network was successfull or something went wrong. so at least i could see if my sms were send or not. |
| 18:57.31 | Fox_Muldr | my old sony ericcson always shows a status window when sending and it shows ok or error, regarding the state of the sending |
| 18:59.43 | undrwater | when replying with opimd, you can see that your message was sent |
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| 19:00.17 | undrwater | it moves up into the "conversation" "window" :) |
| 19:00.52 | undrwater | lots of upgrades right now |
| 19:01.01 | Fox_Muldr | hmm ok, i never relied to a message in the week i used it as main phone. but when sending a new message to someone it always shows up in the list of sended sms without any notice if it realy got sended |
| 19:01.07 | Fox_Muldr | replied |
| 19:01.48 | undrwater | i'm hoping xrandr gets fixed soon too |
| 19:02.12 | Fox_Muldr | what xrandr problem is there? i only use rotate and this works very good |
| 19:02.49 | undrwater | shr-u? |
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| 19:03.06 | undrwater | when i rotate, the calibration is thrown off |
| 19:03.15 | Fox_Muldr | yes, shr-u. but to be honest i had to modify a script a bit after a hint in the mailing list because else the touchscreen gets confused :) |
| 19:03.25 | undrwater | yes...i saw that |
| 19:03.42 | undrwater | that's what i'm talking about :) not having to modify that script |
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| 19:04.00 | Fox_Muldr | yes, exactly this problem i had and it is because of preparing for the newer 2.6.34 kernels. but as long as there is no newer kernel i changed this preparation back and it worked again :) |
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| 19:04.46 | Fox_Muldr | i can redo this change if a new kernel arrives but until then i like to use rotation ;) |
| 19:05.05 | undrwater | i played with a couple of the .32 kernels...looking forward to a release |
| 19:05.41 | undrwater | does your modification hold after reboot? |
| 19:05.58 | Fox_Muldr | when i read the comments in the ml right it seems that the new kernel is getting very close to shr-u. but who knows :) |
| 19:05.59 | Fox_Muldr | yes |
| 19:06.04 | Fox_Muldr | it is permanent |
| 19:06.11 | undrwater | can you paste? |
| 19:06.11 | Fox_Muldr | and only very minor changes to do |
| 19:06.24 | Fox_Muldr | i can point you to the mail from the list |
| 19:06.32 | Fox_Muldr | it's quite easy |
| 19:06.40 | undrwater | i saw it...and when i made changes, i must have screwed it up |
| 19:06.57 | undrwater | because calibration was messed for both modes :P |
| 19:07.21 | Fox_Muldr | no it works quite good since i changed it back |
| 19:07.35 | Fox_Muldr | have you done both changes meantioned in the mail? |
| 19:07.42 | undrwater | yes |
| 19:07.59 | Fox_Muldr | this worked for me after a reboot |
| 19:08.08 | undrwater | i'll try again |
| 19:08.39 | Fox_Muldr | but /etc/pointercal.xinput was installed only a short time later by a new upgrade so i had to remove it again. ;) |
| 19:09.54 | undrwater | hmmmm....maybe that was the problem...i removed it, and maybe update replaced it |
| 19:10.55 | Fox_Muldr | yeah for me it did replace it. i only saw it because i toke a look in the list of upgradeable packages before doing a real upgrade |
| 19:12.50 | Fox_Muldr | mostly i need screen rotating for scummvm to work. i love to play monkey island again when driving in the train :) |
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| 19:18.29 | undrwater | i haven't tried scummvm on freerunner yet |
| 19:19.32 | Fox_Muldr | it's nice. and the games run very well. but some of them were designed for C64 and better so i think the freerunner is more than enough for them :) |
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| 19:20.15 | undrwater | how about interface and menus? |
| 19:21.01 | Fox_Muldr | works all ok in landscape mode |
| 19:21.38 | Fox_Muldr | i changed the aux key to start the ingame menu when lanuching scummvm so i even can save and load the games without too much trouble |
| 19:22.10 | undrwater | what does aux do outside of game? |
| 19:23.11 | Fox_Muldr | nothing at the moment. i would like to use screen lock again outside of game but at the moment it is not possible. |
| 19:23.29 | Fox_Muldr | i want to use siglaunchd for this but it isn't working right at the moment :/ |
| 19:24.35 | undrwater | i'm using it to bring up the dialer...i can pretty much do most phone stuff from there |
| 19:25.03 | Fox_Muldr | do you use multiple functions for aux like short press and longer press? |
| 19:25.34 | undrwater | i tried...but with long press, both actions are triggered |
| 19:25.43 | Fox_Muldr | at the moment i don't see how i could realize that without siglaunchd working :/ |
| 19:25.49 | undrwater | so i had short press= dialer and long press= rotate |
| 19:26.27 | Fox_Muldr | hmm and how do you bind the button to these two functions? at the moment i can only use one function at all |
| 19:26.32 | undrwater | long press brought up the dialer, then rotated screen about 10 times :P |
| 19:26.51 | Fox_Muldr | hehe ok |
| 19:26.52 | undrwater | it's in illume-settings, key-binding, |
| 19:27.15 | Fox_Muldr | yeah but could i change the action there for different lengths i press the button? |
| 19:27.27 | Fox_Muldr | i thought i could only bind one action there |
| 19:27.31 | undrwater | generic actions: delayed action |
| 19:27.58 | undrwater | just above Launch | Command |
| 19:28.14 | Fox_Muldr | ah ok. maybe i could use this for my purpose. the short action is just a normal keyboard action i define with xmodmap and for the long action i could use illume-settings |
| 19:28.37 | undrwater | if it works, let me know |
| 19:28.54 | Fox_Muldr | than the short action will also be executed but this is no problem for me because mostly no program reacts to F5 |
| 19:29.03 | Fox_Muldr | :) |
| 19:29.14 | undrwater | ahh |
| 19:29.35 | Fox_Muldr | then i could always assign F5 to aux and with longer press screen lock gets de-/activated |
| 19:29.38 | undrwater | in illume1, only the one action was executed |
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| 19:29.54 | Fox_Muldr | i use illume2 |
| 19:29.57 | undrwater | me too |
| 19:30.12 | undrwater | keyboard in rotate is important :) |
| 19:30.19 | Fox_Muldr | the first action (F5) will always be executed no matter whyt i set in illume-settings ;) |
| 19:30.26 | Fox_Muldr | what |
| 19:31.00 | undrwater | illume1's keyboard didn't render correctly in landscape |
| 19:31.23 | Fox_Muldr | with illume2 the keyboard shows correct in landscape mode |
| 19:31.34 | undrwater | but delayed actions worked better...so first action wouln't take place if you held the button for second action |
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| 19:31.51 | undrwater | yep...that's why i bit the bullet and went with illume2 |
| 19:31.57 | Fox_Muldr | yeah, but i can't define keypress F5 in illume settings, or could i? |
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| 19:32.31 | Fox_Muldr | i thought just actions like screen lock or running programs |
| 19:32.38 | undrwater | you might be able to... |
| 19:33.01 | Fox_Muldr | hmm i just have to start my fr and try it over vnc :) |
| 19:33.09 | undrwater | yes |
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| 19:36.01 | Fox_Muldr | ahhh |
| 19:36.34 | Fox_Muldr | keybord shortcuts is unuseable because in german the window is way to big and the left and right side is outside the screen |
| 19:38.53 | Fox_Muldr | what is the command line to start illume settings? maybe i can set the LANG var before starting it |
| 19:40.30 | undrwater | it's an enlightenment_remote command iirc |
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| 19:50.55 | n1md4 | evening |
| 19:51.11 | Fox_Muldr | hi |
| 19:52.41 | n1md4 | I've always kept an eye on the openmoko, but alas, I'm not a great developer. I've now got an Android, but would still very much like a Free and Open phone platform. Is OpenMoko going to be that? |
| 19:53.07 | Fox_Muldr | openmoko is as free as you can get on the marked right now :) |
| 19:53.47 | Fox_Muldr | you have a completely free linux running on the openmoko |
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| 19:54.25 | slaxxer | think of the possibilities |
| 19:54.51 | n1md4 | I can see the handset coming of age quite quickly, given the speed of the mobile market. Are phone manufacturers likely to develop compatible models? |
| 19:55.35 | n1md4 | I'd love an age where the user can chose an open distro for their phone. |
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| 19:57.05 | undrwater | n1md4: i don't think it will happen soon...unless at least one major carrier and one major manufacturer buy into the concept |
| 19:57.14 | slaxxer | we have a free an open case design |
| 19:57.49 | SpeedEvil | Openmoko is not going anywhere. Unless someones willing to inject a large slice of a million dollars in a small run. |
| 19:58.02 | SpeedEvil | And the fundamental problem with that is that n900 has decapitated the market. |
| 19:58.09 | SpeedEvil | n900 is quite free enough for many. |
| 19:58.39 | slaxxer | naaaa just need a new pcb |
| 19:58.53 | SpeedEvil | And unless you manage to come in lots under that pricepoint, especially as you won't have as shiny a phone, it gets hard to sell. |
| 19:58.55 | slaxxer | that fits the case |
| 19:59.03 | SpeedEvil | Umm... |
| 19:59.40 | SpeedEvil | A new phone design from scratch will cost at least $10000 to develop. |
| 19:59.46 | SpeedEvil | That is only counting parts cost. |
| 20:00.00 | SpeedEvil | And assuming you get lucky, and it works after only a dozen revisions. |
| 20:00.02 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.06 | n1md4 | Well, I see Android/Linux on many smart phones now. I think I mal-phrased my question, when do we get to install <distro of choice> *unix on our phones, and does the OM project contribute toward that? |
| 20:00.21 | SpeedEvil | n1md4: no. |
| 20:00.29 | SpeedEvil | n1md4: Or only peripherally |
| 20:00.41 | SpeedEvil | Some of the things used in OM, or improved in OM have been used elsewhere. |
| 20:01.15 | SpeedEvil | And n900 is following the same path of going gtk->qt :) |
| 20:01.37 | SpeedEvil | Advanced free hardware is horribly hard to do. |
| 20:01.47 | SpeedEvil | The nice omponents are not available in small numbers. |
| 20:01.55 | Fox_Muldr | in shr-settings->key bindings i got three "keys" named "Execute", "Keycode-219" and "XF86PowerOff" and all of them are binded to phoneui-quick-settings. which one of these is which real key in the freerunner? |
| 20:02.01 | undrwater | or with open specs ;) |
| 20:02.05 | SpeedEvil | that too |
| 20:02.27 | undrwater | Fox_Muldr: they all work |
| 20:02.45 | undrwater | you can delete them all and choose bind keys just to get the one |
| 20:02.51 | Fox_Muldr | for which key? aux or power? |
| 20:02.57 | undrwater | sorry...for power |
| 20:03.21 | Fox_Muldr | ok i try it for aux key |
| 20:03.22 | undrwater | aux is xf86phone |
| 20:04.09 | Fox_Muldr | i see now :) |
| 20:04.57 | Fox_Muldr | is there a command line to de-/activate the shr-u screen lock? |
| 20:05.14 | undrwater | it's a line in... /etc/something... |
| 20:05.27 | Fox_Muldr | maybe a dbus call or something like that which i could execute with a delayed action? |
| 20:05.44 | slaxxer | apparently some large hardware mfgs are going to do it so get ready |
| 20:05.56 | Fox_Muldr | no i mean a command line which i can call from the shell myself |
| 20:07.03 | undrwater | Fox_Muldr: Oh! don't know about that |
| 20:07.17 | Fox_Muldr | i will search for it :) |
| 20:11.57 | Fox_Muldr | hmm the delayed actions doesn't work how i expected it |
| 20:14.14 | Fox_Muldr | i tried as parameter [0.0 exec vala-terminal][1.0 exec xev] and it always starts xev. and the longer i press aux the more xev processes are started :/ |
| 20:14.27 | Fox_Muldr | but never starts vala-terminal |
| 20:15.00 | Fox_Muldr | maybe i misinterpreted the numbers in front but i thought they were seconds to press the key |
| 20:16.11 | Fox_Muldr | undrwater: what param do you use there which works for you? |
| 20:23.55 | undrwater | Fox_Muldr: try 0.3 for vala |
| 20:24.25 | Fox_Muldr | ok i try 0.3 for vala and 2.0 for xev now |
| 20:24.31 | undrwater | and i had the same results as you...screen rotated multiple times |
| 20:24.47 | Fox_Muldr | the repetition of the programs is quite a bug i think :/ |
| 20:24.51 | undrwater | yep |
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| 20:25.52 | undrwater | shoot...navit is broken |
| 20:26.54 | Fox_Muldr | hmm now nothing happens at all. something is really strange with this delayed actions ;) |
| 20:27.05 | undrwater | agreed |
| 20:28.23 | Fox_Muldr | i hoped i could use siglaunchd for that purpose but at the moment the press time parameter has no effect. so every rule for the same key is executed no matter the press time set ;) |
| 20:30.04 | Fox_Muldr | ok, than i will live with the current situation and use aux key for nothing more than F5 when in a game ;) |
| 20:33.37 | undrwater | heh |
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| 21:41.34 | mick_laptop | anyone get android to run on their openmoko fr? |
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| 21:46.26 | undrwater | yep |
| 21:46.52 | undrwater | not recommended for real life use, though |
| 21:46.53 | mick_laptop | all of the tutorials that i've tried didn't wfm |
| 21:47.04 | mick_laptop | and the openmoko is recommended? ;) |
| 21:47.16 | mick_laptop | "for real life use" |
| 21:47.18 | undrwater | shr-u or qtmoko |
| 21:48.01 | undrwater | if you have BT headset, qtmoko is more painless :) |
| 21:48.11 | mick_laptop | heh |
| 21:48.34 | mick_laptop | last i tried a distro i wasn't able to make a call w/o getting a crap load of jitter |
| 21:48.49 | mick_laptop | on the receiver side (not mine) |
| 21:49.59 | undrwater | do you have buzz fix? |
| 21:50.05 | mick_laptop | ? |
| 21:50.18 | undrwater | which handset do you have? |
| 21:50.43 | mick_laptop | i just made a call w/ my fr |
| 21:50.46 | undrwater | familiar with the wiki? |
| 21:51.10 | mick_laptop | i know it enough to say that it is outdated and inaccurate in many places :) |
| 21:51.27 | undrwater | true...but search for "buzz fix"...that may be your problem |
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| 21:51.43 | undrwater | latest shr-u now has mic control in call...which might help as well |
| 21:51.47 | mick_laptop | well i figure one of the newer distros will have a fix |
| 21:52.03 | mick_laptop | i got mine from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ |
| 21:52.16 | mick_laptop | that the prefered image? and place to get it? |
| 21:52.20 | undrwater | i'd recommend unstable |
| 21:52.28 | mick_laptop | it crashed on me |
| 21:52.33 | mick_laptop | so i went w/ testing |
| 21:52.33 | undrwater | unstable did??? |
| 21:52.41 | mick_laptop | enlightenment did - yes |
| 21:52.50 | mick_laptop | it was after 4 minutes of using it |
| 21:52.52 | undrwater | interesting...i've been getting crashes with testing |
| 21:52.56 | mick_laptop | so i went w. testing |
| 21:53.01 | mick_laptop | hmm |
| 21:53.02 | undrwater | very stable with unstable ;) |
| 21:53.11 | undrwater | how long ago did you flash unstable? |
| 21:53.28 | mick_laptop | how long ago ? |
| 21:53.31 | mick_laptop | this morning |
| 21:54.37 | undrwater | into NAND, or on SD? |
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| 22:18.14 | slaxxer | upgrading shr-u work from the 20100604 image? |
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| 22:25.13 | undrwater | slaxxer: that's what i've got... |
| 22:25.25 | undrwater | seems to have broken navit...but everything else seems to work |
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| 22:31.14 | slaxxer | ok |
| 22:51.56 | slaxxer | its a huge upgrade |
| 22:52.17 | slaxxer | lots of linking going on |
| 22:52.42 | slaxxer | if it works it will be the first time |
| 22:52.58 | slaxxer | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/renice to renice.util-linux-ng |
| 22:52.59 | slaxxer | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/wall to wall.sysvinit |
| 22:52.59 | slaxxer | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/chfn to chfn.util-linux-ng |
| 22:52.59 | slaxxer | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/newgrp to newgrp.util-linux-ng |
| 22:52.59 | slaxxer | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/chsh to chsh.util-linux-ng |
| 22:52.59 | slaxxer | update-alternatives: Linking //bin/login to login.util-linux-ng |
| 22:53.01 | slaxxer | update-alternatives: Error: not linking //sbin/vipw to vipw. |
| 22:53.07 | slaxxer | etc |
| 23:04.29 | undrwater | worked OK for me |
| 23:10.13 | slaxxer | so far so good!! |
| 23:10.37 | undrwater | :D |
| 23:11.34 | slaxxer | anybody find a good cheap source for screens for gta02/? |
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