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| 02:12.50 | naquan | Hi, can anyone tell me how much disk space is needed to cross-build SHR from source? |
| 02:13.12 | SpeedEvil | I would guess around 20G |
| 02:15.51 | naquan | O.o |
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| 02:18.52 | SpeedEvil | This is based on old builds of OE needind about 12 |
| 02:18.58 | SpeedEvil | it may be a lot better - but... |
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| 02:20.42 | naquan | Thank you |
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| 04:32.20 | shaz123 | Building shr error .... "Build of /home/shaz/moko/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/fontconfig/fontconfig-native_2.6.0.bb do_configure failed" ... then did make image again and it worked .... whats this behavior called :) |
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| 07:33.57 | bakc | hi i am new who have Freerunner.. i searching something for multiboot from sdcard with a few partitions,, on each partition i want have another distribution. Exist some solution for this? i found project qi-bootmenu-but i dont know what is wrong maybe "qi-bootmenu" is wrong,, becouse in my "menu" i saw only power off but on sdcard i have 3 prartitions with ext3 fs. I want got something like this picture,, http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/qi-bootmenu/scre |
| 07:33.57 | bakc | enshot.png but i have only poweroff |
| 07:34.09 | bakc | sry for my poor english |
| 07:35.35 | PaulFertser | bakc: tried reading qi-bootmenu manual? |
| 07:36.46 | bakc | PaulFertser, yes i trying ,, but my english is not fully good, then i can not found or understand where is problem |
| 07:37.03 | PaulFertser | bakc: are you sure you have only primary partitions on your SD? |
| 07:37.13 | bakc | yes |
| 07:37.26 | bakc | it is only primary none logical-extendet |
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| 07:55.18 | PaulFertser | bakc: no idea, you should have /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin on every partition you want to be able to boot. |
| 08:02.00 | bakc | hmm, thx also |
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| 08:11.28 | djp_ | trying to bring my freerunner out of suspend... when i press the power button, the following message appears... "... bq27000-battery bq27000-battery.0: battery service reschedule failed". i'm running shr-unstable (13.5.2010). anyone know why my freerunner is failing to come out of suspend and reporting a failed "battery service reschedule"? |
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| 08:23.00 | naquan | uhm, is SHR trying to minic Android and remove buttons to switch and close applications? I can't find a way to switch or close applications in SHR-u 2010-05-13 :( |
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| 08:28.51 | djp_ | naquan: open up terminal and run shr_elm_softkey |
| 08:29.13 | djp_ | naquan: then tap the top shelf |
| 08:30.27 | naquan | djp_: great, thank you |
| 08:31.19 | djp_ | naquan: np. by the way, does your freerunner have issues with suspend using shr (2010-05-13)? |
| 08:31.52 | djp_ | naquan: if i leave my fr to auto suspend, i can't bring it back out of suspend! |
| 08:32.10 | djp_ | naquan: worked fine on earlier shr-unstable releases |
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| 08:34.38 | naquan | djp_: i'm not sure, my phone has just auto-suspended once and there's no problem of resuming. |
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| 08:46.51 | djp_ | naquan: ah, ok. yes, i find it won't come out of suspend if left for a while. if i let it go into suspend and then immediately try and bring it out of suspend, all is fine. |
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| 09:10.34 | djp_ | update on issues with suspend and latest versions of shr-unstable. if i suspend manually, by pressing the power button to call up profile/power and using the option to suspend, then everything appears fine. i can press the power button to come out of suspend and all works as it should. it would seem that the problem only exists when auto-suspend is enabled. |
| 09:15.44 | SpeedEvil | odd |
| 09:16.09 | SpeedEvil | Lots of people have reported over the last month or two that suspend is broken in 'recent' FSO for them. |
| 09:16.17 | SpeedEvil | I haven't seen any solution. |
| 09:18.27 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: oh really? well at least i'm not on my own then ;) |
| 09:18.40 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: thanks for the advice |
| 09:19.56 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: i'm wondering if the message that i received this morning about "battery service reschedule", was related to the fr going into suspend while charging |
| 09:20.37 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: i came across this, http://shr-users-discussions.2691941.n2.nabble.com/New-SHR-unstable-td4035401.html |
| 09:21.03 | djp_ | seems to talk about an issue with shr-unstable/charging and suspend |
| 09:21.03 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - not actually running SHR at the moment. |
| 09:21.27 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: ah, i see. what do you run out of interest? |
| 09:21.37 | SpeedEvil | Well - my neo1973 is dismantled awaiting reassembly into a microwave oven controller. |
| 09:21.41 | SpeedEvil | Also - n900. |
| 09:21.49 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: :) |
| 09:22.15 | SpeedEvil | I got one - though I couldn't really afford it - with the promise to myself that I'd partially pay for it with a diet/planned meals. |
| 09:22.23 | SpeedEvil | Now 20Kg down. :) |
| 09:22.27 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: i only use my fr for phone calls. is shr-unstable the best distro for that task do you know, or is there a better alternative? |
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| 09:22.37 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - no FR. |
| 09:22.49 | SpeedEvil | I recall people saying it was more stable a few months back. |
| 09:22.58 | SpeedEvil | I have no idea if there are shapshots available. |
| 09:23.28 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: yes, it was. maybe i should dig out an older version and go with that. |
| 09:23.39 | PaulFertser | djp_: or shr-t |
| 09:23.49 | SpeedEvil | If you want to be loved, binary-search to find the failing commit. |
| 09:25.14 | PaulFertser | djp_: so do you have usb networking or not after a "failing" resume? |
| 09:25.14 | djp_ | PaulFertser: is shr-t better to use than unstable? |
| 09:25.32 | PaulFertser | djp_: that question is better be answered by the shr usres |
| 09:25.35 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: i wouldn't know where to start! ;) |
| 09:26.13 | djp_ | PaulFertser: do they have an irc channel do you know, or do they hang out here? |
| 09:26.19 | SpeedEvil | djp_: Find a commit where shr works and suspends properly. Find one where it does not. |
| 09:26.28 | PaulFertser | djp_: here + #openmoko-cdevel |
| 09:26.35 | djp_ | PaulFertser: thanks |
| 09:26.35 | PaulFertser | djp_: but why not debug the issue? |
| 09:26.43 | PaulFertser | djp_: do you have usb access or not? |
| 09:26.47 | SpeedEvil | djp_: Now, pick one in the middle. Does it suspend? If so - try a later one, ... |
| 09:26.52 | djp_ | PaulFertser: yes |
| 09:27.07 | PaulFertser | djp_: aha, so the device in fact resumes properly |
| 09:27.07 | SpeedEvil | djp_: in about 10-15 searches, you find the exact commit that caused the suspend problems. |
| 09:27.14 | djp_ | SpeedEvil: ah, i see. yeah, think i could do that! ;) |
| 09:27.25 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: i think i remember the issue he's talking about |
| 09:27.29 | djp_ | PaulFertser: yes |
| 09:27.48 | djp_ | PaulFertser: it only seems to have an issue when set to auto-suspend |
| 09:27.59 | PaulFertser | djp_: so, after a "failing" resume access it with usb, type ps ax | grep X, that'll tell you the VT number, then do "chvt <number>" |
| 09:28.39 | djp_ | PaulFertser: aha! it's gone wrong again. this time i see a message... "hdq error: 3" |
| 09:28.53 | PaulFertser | djp_: hdq errors are safe to ignore |
| 09:29.16 | djp_ | PaulFertser: let me try what you suggest... |
| 09:31.43 | SpeedEvil | djp_: http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-bisect.html - has some overview - I don't think the project uses git - but it's the idea |
| 09:31.57 | djp_ | PaulFertser: 660 ? S 0:00 xinit /etc/X11/Xsession -- /usr/bin/Xorg -br -pn -dpi 280 -nocursor 665 tty2 S<s+ 0:22 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -pn -dpi 280 -nocursor 873 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep X |
| 09:32.08 | PaulFertser | djp_: so? |
| 09:32.17 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: OE uses git :) |
| 09:32.37 | djp_ | PaulFertser: what number do i use? the last one, 873? |
| 09:33.09 | PaulFertser | djp_: :-O |
| 09:33.13 | PaulFertser | djp_: of course not |
| 09:33.17 | PaulFertser | djp_: 2 |
| 09:34.08 | djp_ | PaulFertser: chvt 2 returns nothing |
| 09:34.19 | PaulFertser | djp_: does the screen change? |
| 09:34.39 | djp_ | PaulFertser: yes |
| 09:34.53 | djp_ | PaulFertser: back to screen and out of suspend |
| 09:35.14 | PaulFertser | djp_: pardon? |
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| 09:35.46 | djp_ | PaulFertser: the freerunner has returned to the shr-unstable desktop |
| 09:35.56 | djp_ | PaulFertser: or whatever you refer to it as |
| 09:36.12 | djp_ | PaulFertser: or whatever you refer to it as |
| 09:36.16 | djp_ | oops |
| 09:36.27 | djp_ | PaulFertser: so not stuck on suspend |
| 09:36.39 | djp_ | PaulFertser: does that make sense? |
| 09:36.50 | PaulFertser | djp_: now you can tell something meaningful to JaMa like: "Hi, JaMa, do you have any idea why my FR doesn't switch to the second VT with X after it auto-suspends. Using SHR-u with the latest upgrades". |
| 09:37.30 | djp_ | PaulFertser: ah! thanks. |
| 09:37.46 | PaulFertser | djp_: mrmoku might be of help too. |
| 09:37.49 | PaulFertser | :) |
| 09:38.42 | mrmoku | that one seems to be a hard to solve nut :/ |
| 09:38.53 | PaulFertser | djp_: http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-user@lists.shr-project.org/msg04743.html |
| 09:38.55 | djp_ | PaulFertser: i'll note down what you've explained. i'm not a dev or anything like that you see, thus my complete blank face (which i realise you can't see ;)) when reading your advice! |
| 09:38.55 | mrmoku | some people have it... some don't |
| 09:39.04 | PaulFertser | djp_: is there any reason you haven't seen that thread yet? |
| 09:39.25 | djp_ | PaulFertser: searched through, but not seen that one no. |
| 09:39.37 | djp_ | PaulFertser: thanks. will take a look. |
| 09:39.50 | PaulFertser | djp_: you should be subscribed to that ML ;) |
| 09:40.20 | PaulFertser | mrmoku: probably you can use a workaround like chvt on every resume? |
| 09:40.35 | djp_ | PaulFertser: yes! think i should. :) i'll subscribe right now... |
| 09:41.48 | PaulFertser | :D |
| 09:42.57 | PaulFertser | mrmoku: is it possible some extra action is involved during the suspend triggered by phonefsod? |
| 09:43.14 | PaulFertser | mrmoku: some script in /etc/suspend.d or something? |
| 09:48.00 | mrmoku | PaulFertser: I was not involved in debugging that thing... but IIRC trying that system freezed immediately |
| 09:48.23 | mrmoku | PaulFertser: Heinervdm would know more for sure :) |
| 09:48.32 | PaulFertser | mrmoku: thanks :) |
| 09:48.54 | PaulFertser | mrmoku: fyi the user report chvt works for them |
| 09:49.16 | Heinervdm | PaulFertser: i just flashed the 17052010 image |
| 09:49.29 | Heinervdm | there it seems to work again |
| 09:49.37 | Heinervdm | but i haven't rebootet yet |
| 09:50.49 | Heinervdm | PaulFertser: the problem with the script on resume is, that we use fso-apm and so /etc/resume.d/ scrips aren't executed |
| 09:51.29 | Heinervdm | cross your fingers, i'm rebooting now ;) |
| 09:53.46 | PaulFertser | Heinervdm: apm2 from cornucopia? |
| 09:55.54 | Heinervdm | PaulFertser: i don't think so, i will look where it's from |
| 09:56.44 | Heinervdm | PaulFertser: ah, it's apm2 from cronucopia |
| 09:58.30 | PaulFertser | Heinervdm: it's anyway wrong idea i guess. Why not use pm-utils? |
| 10:00.02 | Heinervdm | PaulFertser: i think this is to handle the suspend in the FSO way |
| 10:00.16 | PaulFertser | Heinervdm: it doesn't make any sense ;) |
| 10:01.06 | Heinervdm | PaulFertser: What i know is: with apm instead of fso-apm suspend isn't working right ;) |
| 10:01.32 | Heinervdm | PaulFertser: don't know why mickey|zzZZzz has choosen this way |
| 10:02.12 | PaulFertser | Heinervdm: you do not get me |
| 10:02.33 | PaulFertser | Heinervdm: SHR devs should just integrate pm-utils instead of using some "apm emulation" wrapper. |
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| 10:02.49 | PaulFertser | Heinervdm: pm-utils have all you need, including doing the suspend fso-way. |
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| 10:18.12 | djp_ | PaulFertser: all subscribed up! thanks for your help and advice this morning (or whatever time it is where you are) :D |
| 10:18.51 | PaulFertser | djp_: welcome |
| 10:19.12 | PaulFertser | djp_: try upgrading now, as Heinervdm says it started to work for him after yesterday's upgrade. |
| 10:20.14 | Heinervdm | PaulFertser, djp_: i reflashed a fresh image from yesterday, i'm not sure if a upgrade will fix it, as i still don't know what caused this error |
| 10:23.38 | djp_ | PaulFertser: Heinervdm: flashing as i type... ;) |
| 10:23.48 | djp_ | thanks |
| 10:23.58 | Heinervdm | djp_: you should have tried the update mehtode first ;) |
| 10:24.17 | Heinervdm | then we would know if it's fixed with an update too ;) |
| 10:24.52 | djp_ | Heinervdm: :) true... by the way, with regards updating, is it ok to flash a later version than the kernel? |
| 10:25.17 | djp_ | Heinervdm: my kernel is dated 13.5.2010 you see... |
| 10:25.19 | JaMa | djp_: as long as you keep kernel image and kernel modules in sync |
| 10:25.48 | Heinervdm | the kernel is only build on upgrade of the kernel, not everytime an image is build |
| 10:26.15 | djp_ | Heinervdm: ah right, got you. thanks |
| 10:26.22 | djp_ | JaMa: thanks also |
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| 11:33.02 | PaulFertser | yamitenshi: in general with any GSM phone often if you actively use GPRS you're not available for calls/sms messages. |
| 11:38.49 | gena2x | debian-gta02:~# cat /tmp/strace.txt |grep dev |
| 11:38.49 | gena2x | open("/dev/rfcomm0", O_RDWR|O_NOCTTY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) |
| 11:38.49 | gena2x | write(2, "minicom: cannot open /dev/rfcomm"..., 61minicom: cannot open /dev/rfcomm0: No such file or directory |
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| 11:40.24 | gena2x | ^^ sample of informative error messages |
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| 11:49.20 | yamitenshi | So basically, if I just set the GPRS to on demand (which I have to anyway), and set a timeout of, say, 30 seconds, that means that while loading a web page and for 30 seconds after it's done, I can't call? |
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| 11:55.59 | yamitenshi | Gtg, I'll find out later, thanks for your responses :) |
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| 14:47.36 | gena2x | PaulFertser: can I ask you some bluetooth questions? |
| 14:47.55 | PaulFertser | gena2x: sure |
| 14:50.34 | gena2x | PaulFertser: first one, i don't know if you can help: where is 'sco' stat in hciconfig. my guess this should increase if some sco channel connected. can you recall did it increase last time you tried bluetooth headset profile (not a2dp)? |
| 14:53.05 | PaulFertser | gena2x: it did increase when i did everything right with a working headset |
| 14:53.35 | gena2x | PaulFertser: after play()? |
| 14:54.06 | PaulFertser | gena2x: iirc, yes, after play() when the sound started to actually flow to and from headset. |
| 14:54.23 | PaulFertser | gena2x: but i'm not sure |
| 14:54.37 | PaulFertser | gena2x: the counters increased for sure when i was using SCO over HCI. |
| 14:54.43 | PaulFertser | (after the eeprom hack) |
| 14:55.54 | gena2x | PaulFertser: why route it over HCI in software if it shold work in hardware over PCM? |
| 14:56.39 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i wanted to play a sound file from SoC. And also i wanted to investigate if it's possible to use a bluetooth headset for voip. |
| 14:56.48 | gena2x | PaulFertser: i still didn't make my headset work, but have a bit better understanding of all that bluez/bluetooth thing... |
| 14:57.25 | gena2x | PaulFertser: wait, pcm is routed to SoC? |
| 14:58.04 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i tried with two headsets. One headset i could never make to work, no matter how hard i tried (even recompiling the kernel with the latest bluetooth parts). After Play() i can hear only background amp noise. The other headset i tried worked perfectly. |
| 14:58.21 | PaulFertser | gena2x: pcm is not routed to SoC, pcm is connected to Wolfson. |
| 14:58.40 | PaulFertser | gena2x: but i wanted to route SCO to SoC investigating if it's possible to use voip. |
| 14:58.58 | TomaszD | if I have the latest shr-testing, do I have to do anything to enable gps? it's on auto and I'm running tangogps |
| 14:59.25 | JaMa | TomaszD: check if fso-gspd is running |
| 14:59.29 | gena2x | PaulFertser: wait, how soc related to wolfson? |
| 14:59.36 | TomaszD | JaMa, how can I do that |
| 14:59.54 | JaMa | TomaszD: and that you have right fsotdld.conf (the one from .ipk package) |
| 15:00.09 | TomaszD | JaMa, tangogps is by default in shr |
| 15:00.09 | JaMa | TomaszD: ps aux | grep gpsd |
| 15:00.43 | gena2x | PaulFertser: i only hear some noise too, but i see that nothing is really transferred to headset - sco is 0. |
| 15:01.06 | gena2x | PaulFertser: and we have only 1 sound card - wolfson, yes? |
| 15:01.15 | gena2x | PaulFertser: so what is soc? |
| 15:01.16 | TomaszD | JaMa, yep, it's running |
| 15:01.48 | JaMa | TomaszD: and do you have commented out gps sections in fsotdld.conf? |
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| 15:02.02 | PaulFertser | gena2x: soc is system on chip == s3c2442 |
| 15:02.06 | gena2x | PaulFertser: (sorry if my question look stupid) |
| 15:02.20 | PaulFertser | gena2x: (nothing transferred) i think it was exactly the same for me with the non-working headset. |
| 15:02.42 | gena2x | PaulFertser: yes, but how soc participate in sound? |
| 15:03.10 | PaulFertser | gena2x: if i use voip, i need to use a "virtual sound card" that is SCO over HCI (usb). |
| 15:03.33 | PaulFertser | gena2x: because it's SoC that generates and receives the sound in voip case. |
| 15:04.55 | PaulFertser | gena2x: just like you use for playing music over a2dp, but for voip bi-directional communication is needed. |
| 15:05.05 | TomaszD | JaMa, checking.. |
| 15:05.23 | JaMa | leaving sorry |
| 15:05.26 | gena2x | PaulFertser: you mean 'as the CPU on SoC' doing processing and the sound card is vitual -> we call SoC soundcard. |
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| 15:06.34 | gena2x | PaulFertser: (i just thought that SoC might have some integrated sound device you wanted to use) |
| 15:07.31 | gena2x | PaulFertser: s/we call SoC soundcard./we call SoC soundcard?/ |
| 15:08.12 | gena2x | PaulFertser: ok, now i understood. |
| 15:09.10 | gena2x | PaulFertser: what you wanted to archieve. But why not captute/playback throught Wolfson? |
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| 15:17.25 | gena2x | PaulFertser: No, wait, again. as i understand we can pick data from 'bt-CSR' via USB bus (in a2dp case), also we can pick SCO data (in HSP case) via same 'bt-CSR' via USB bus, and finally we can route SCO (HSP case) to Wolfson and pick it up via SoC. |
| 15:19.34 | gena2x | and latter case only case where SoC is used that's why i always thought Wolfson and SoC are synonims from sound point of view. I were wrong? |
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| 15:24.54 | TomaszD | JaMa|Sports, edited the file, rebooted, got a gps fix, thanks |
| 15:31.33 | gena2x | PaulFertser: please, answer. Is i am missing something in understanding system? |
| 15:33.47 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i'm answering :) |
| 15:34.07 | gena2x | PaulFertser: oh, ok, thanks in advance :) |
| 15:34.12 | PaulFertser | gena2x: a2dp is only from SoC to BT, afaik |
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| 15:35.05 | PaulFertser | gena2x: to have SCO flowing over HCI with the csr chip, you need to alter its eeprom |
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| 15:35.31 | PaulFertser | gena2x: wolfson is connected with pcm interface to the BT chip, SoC is connected to the BT only via USB. |
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| 15:36.26 | gena2x | PaulFertser: so all ok in my understanding. |
| 15:36.46 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i think i looked at it and found it impossible to route sound SoC<->Wolfson<->BT PCM (bidirectionally) |
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| 15:38.09 | gena2x | PaulFertser: sounds strange. because BT PCM<==>Wolfson interface is definetly designed for bidirectional transfers (PCM_IN, PCM_OUT) |
| 15:38.39 | gena2x | PaulFertser: without doubt, SoC<==>Wolfson is bidirectional too. |
| 15:38.51 | PaulFertser | gena2x: yes, but you need too tricky routing inside the Wolfson |
| 15:39.07 | PaulFertser | gena2x: probably i'm wrong, just take a look at the diagram and judge for yourself. |
| 15:39.39 | gena2x | PaulFertser: also it seems (for me) that PCM is specially designed for such routing. because even channel in wolfson called 'Voice'. |
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| 15:40.05 | PaulFertser | gena2x: look at the diagram and see for yourself :) |
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| 15:41.51 | gena2x | PaulFertser: i looked to shematics and to Wolfson specification, just wanted to discuss/ask some questions with someone who (i thought) did that too before. |
| 15:42.15 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i did but i've already forgotten the details. Do you think you see a way to route the sound the way you propose? |
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| 15:45.08 | gena2x | PaulFertser: according to how i understand that i read, the PCM output of bluetooth and Voice in of Wolfson is designed to handle bluetooth in hardware (play, record, route to speakers). and thought you did that configuration first (before routing sco via bluetooth) |
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| 15:45.42 | gena2x | PaulFertser: even in wiki this way is described (SCOrouting=PCM) |
| 15:46.22 | gena2x | PaulFertser: Also want to ask about alsa contols (if you know) which should control Voice in Wolfson |
| 15:46.22 | PaulFertser | gena2x: because it's the default eeprom configuration |
| 15:46.46 | PaulFertser | gena2x: have you actually seen "the prettier" diagram? It has all the controls printed over it. |
| 15:47.10 | gena2x | PaulFertser: Which diagram you talking? |
| 15:47.21 | TomaszD | mokonnect is unable to power on the wifi device, any pointers? I'm using latest shr-testing |
| 15:47.28 | gena2x | PaulFertser: (mb i missed it) |
| 15:47.48 | PaulFertser | gena2x: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:WM8753_routing_diagram_alsa_controls.png |
| 15:48.01 | PaulFertser | TomaszD: use iliwili :) |
| 15:48.11 | PaulFertser | TomaszD: or something like that :) |
| 15:49.03 | TomaszD | hmm |
| 15:49.30 | PaulFertser | gena2x: and also this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Wolfson_dai_routing.png |
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| 15:49.38 | TomaszD | does anyone know if the bug that makes the freerunner a heater when there's no microsd in the slot will be fixed anytime soon? |
| 15:49.41 | gena2x | PaulFertser: Oh, thanks much, i really cool!!! |
| 15:50.33 | PaulFertser | gena2x: there's only one ADC, so you won't have bidirectional i think |
| 15:50.42 | gena2x | PaulFertser: like in specification but with alsa controls added! |
| 15:50.44 | SpeedEvil | TomaszD: The obvious way round this is to add a little slip of plastic. |
| 15:51.08 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i waited for someone to add alsa control names for long time. Then i felt i have to do it myself so i did... :/ |
| 15:51.46 | TomaszD | SpeedEvil... the card must be detected by the kernel, it's a kernel bug, present in android-on-freerunner, qtmoko and shr |
| 15:51.56 | gena2x | PaulFertser: _Thank_ _you_ _!_ |
| 15:52.06 | PaulFertser | gena2x: welcome :) |
| 16:01.51 | gena2x | PaulFertser: cool, controls are "Mono playback Volume" and "Mono Mixer Voice Playback Switch" :) |
| 16:02.03 | gena2x | PaulFertser: for mono headset :) |
| 16:02.18 | gena2x | PaulFertser: i mean mono profile for headset :) |
| 16:04.11 | gena2x | PaulFertser: I gone to digest new information :) |
| 16:04.37 | PaulFertser | gena2x: bon appetit |
| 16:04.49 | PaulFertser | Hm, or is it too late |
| 16:05.05 | PaulFertser | gena2x: well, anyway, having only one ADC is not enough for bidirectional communication. |
| 16:05.52 | gena2x | PaulFertser: but where is both VXDIN and VXDOUT. Data come from bt in digital format. |
| 16:06.03 | gena2x | PaulFertser: (as i understand) |
| 16:06.44 | gena2x | PaulFertser: so we need only 1 adc to convert it to our local consumers (as i understand) |
| 16:07.26 | PaulFertser | gena2x: the data comes and goes in digital format, yes, but inside the wolfson it travels in analog form. |
| 16:09.41 | gena2x | PaulFertser: so, only 1 DAC is needed to convert data which we got from VXDIN (headset mic), while we can feed bt with digital data directly? |
| 16:10.36 | PaulFertser | gena2x: how can you feed BT with digital data directly, via what interface? |
| 16:11.12 | gena2x | PaulFertser: VXDOUT output of PCM Wolfson interface |
| 16:11.33 | PaulFertser | gena2x: where will it get digital data from? |
| 16:13.09 | PaulFertser | gena2x: from ADC. But where will SoC get digital data from then? |
| 16:13.54 | gena2x | PaulFertser: Why, you can get digital data for example from SoC |
| 16:14.44 | PaulFertser | gena2x: you want SoC to get what you say in BT mic. So BT is transferring digital data through its pcm interface to Wolfson to its DAC, then you want to route it to SoC but there's no ADC left to do that. |
| 16:16.31 | PaulFertser | gena2x: and if you're considering using ADC for both digital interfaces, we investigated that and came to conclusion it's impossible given our hardware. |
| 16:16.35 | PaulFertser | I do not remember the details. |
| 16:17.55 | gena2x | PaulFertser: I have to think to understand all this... |
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