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| 05:27.12 | Slaxxed | watisit |
| 05:29.06 | Slaxxed | that 0421 Qi in shr testing a real new Qi? |
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| 05:40.21 | Slaxxed | "Doc" |
| 05:52.32 | Slaxxed | what a HUGE upgrade |
| 05:52.57 | Slaxxed | i figure it will hurl |
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| 06:48.43 | eMBee | good afternoon |
| 06:49.14 | eMBee | feels something is wrong with the way he installed SHR |
| 06:49.39 | eMBee | the phone boots only if i manually pull up the bootmenu |
| 06:49.53 | eMBee | simply hitting the powerbutton does nothing |
| 06:50.28 | PaulFertser | eMBee: are you using Qi |
| 06:50.29 | PaulFertser | ? |
| 06:50.35 | eMBee | in fact it seems to make the phone hang and force me to pull the battery just to be able o hit the alternate button and then the power button to get to the boot menu |
| 06:50.43 | eMBee | no,not qi, the other one |
| 06:50.49 | PaulFertser | eMBee: u-boot? Why? |
| 06:51.16 | eMBee | you are asking why i use u-boot? probably becaiuse that was what was on the phone |
| 06:51.35 | eMBee | and there was no strong recommendation to replace it |
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| 06:51.57 | PaulFertser | eMBee: well, either you know how to configure your nand u-boot or you use Qi... |
| 06:51.59 | eMBee | and what i remember from qi from a yar ago wasthat it didn't have a boot menu |
| 06:52.09 | eMBee | ok |
| 06:52.26 | eMBee | so current instructions to install shr assume qi? |
| 06:52.29 | PaulFertser | It still doesn't have a boot menu. |
| 06:52.46 | PaulFertser | eMBee: i do not know about shr instructions, i know one should know his bootloader ;) |
| 06:52.50 | eMBee | yes, that made me a bit uncomfortable, i like to have feedback :-) |
| 06:53.29 | eMBee | well, i would have thought that neotool (which is very simple already) does the right thing |
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| 06:55.29 | PaulFertser | eMBee: if neotool did reflashing of the bootloader and/or u-boot env, i guess it would have needed to be doomed eternally. |
| 06:56.00 | eMBee | hmm? |
| 06:57.50 | eMBee | do i need to reflash u-boot in order to make it bootright? |
| 06:58.16 | PaulFertser | eMBee: to sum up: if you have any particular problem with Qi, feel free to ping me about it, if you have problems with configuring u-boot, read the u-boot manual or wait for someone else. |
| 06:59.49 | eMBee | ok, thanks. already in progress (been searching for u-boot docs) |
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| 07:04.58 | Slaxxed | embee did u opkg upgrade shr testing today |
| 07:05.00 | Slaxxed | ? |
| 07:05.26 | Slaxxed | mine hurled |
| 07:09.44 | eMBee | not yet. hurled? |
| 07:10.39 | eMBee | i wonder if trying to flash android hosed u-boot |
| 07:26.01 | chomwitt | my usb connection drops (times out?) after some minutes . can this be configured? |
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| 07:29.25 | eMBee | just rememberedthat there are two bootmanagers, one in nor and one in nand. so i guess the one in nand is broken. just tried to flash qi, no errors, but it still does not boot |
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| 07:52.32 | PaulFertser | eMBee: are you using SHR on NAND or on uSD? |
| 07:52.46 | PaulFertser | eMBee: have you tried waiting for long enough when you tried booting with Qi? |
| 07:57.17 | eMBee | on nand |
| 07:57.26 | eMBee | how long is long enough? minutes? |
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| 08:01.55 | eMBee | i hit the powerbutton, aux lights red, the vibrator humms, and then nothing |
| 08:03.32 | PaulFertser | eMBee: yes, minutes. |
| 08:03.49 | PaulFertser | eMBee: what you describe sounds "ok": means it skips uSD. |
| 08:06.14 | eMBee | ok |
| 08:06.46 | eMBee | well it has been more than 5 minutes now |
| 08:07.54 | PaulFertser | eMBee: hm, then there's certainly something wrong. I hope you didn't damage neither kernel nor rootfs partition during Qi flashing, did you? |
| 08:08.45 | eMBee | nope. i can still boot finr using u-buut in the nor |
| 08:09.07 | eMBee | erm... fine using u-boot |
| 08:09.20 | PaulFertser | eMBee: that's unfortunate, probably it's the bad blocks table inconsistency we never fixed :( |
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| 08:09.52 | PaulFertser | eMBee: then my suggestion is to flash u-boot to nand, connect to it via ACM, configure the environment, save. |
| 08:10.25 | PaulFertser | eMBee: unless you have a debug board of course, in this case it would be nice to see Qi output on the serial console. |
| 08:11.48 | eMBee | sorry, no debug board |
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| 08:14.17 | eMBee | if qi tries to boot from uSD the red light does not show? |
| 08:16.36 | PaulFertser | eMBee: iirc the red light will blink once anyway. |
| 08:16.56 | PaulFertser | eMBee: but every vibration means it skips a boot possibility. |
| 08:17.14 | PaulFertser | It's elaborated in details on Qi wikipage. |
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| 08:25.50 | eMBee | ok, thanks |
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| 09:19.50 | unknown_102 | hi |
| 09:20.24 | unknown_102 | i would like to know is possible to use gps from openmoko in other linux based pc? |
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| 09:22.24 | PaulFertser | unknown_102: why not? |
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| 09:23.01 | unknown_102 | PaulFertser: could you tell me how i can do that? i googled for some info about this but without success |
| 09:23.18 | SpeedEvil | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS |
| 09:23.24 | SpeedEvil | probably outdated |
| 09:23.46 | SpeedEvil | definately outdated I guess |
| 09:23.59 | PaulFertser | unknown_102: just use gpsd as usual |
| 09:24.27 | unknown_102 | SpeedEvil: thx a lot :-) |
| 09:24.32 | unknown_102 | PaulFertser: thx a lot :-) |
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| 11:22.46 | thrashold | Can you use the FreeRunner wireless with WPA? |
| 11:25.25 | soltys | thrashold: it works for me with wpa-psk |
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| 11:29.54 | thrashold | Damn, my WPA configuration is 1:1 as the one on my laptop, and it still doesn't seem to work |
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| 12:59.11 | thrashold | Does iwlist scan display WPA info on the FR for anyone? Like IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 ? |
| 12:59.54 | PaulFertser | thrashold: i think it does show "Unsupported IEs" |
| 13:00.24 | thrashold | I don't get neither the unsupported IEs, nor the WPA info :) |
| 13:01.41 | PaulFertser | Probably that's not wpa then? |
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| 13:04.14 | thrashold | PaulFertser: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/205598/ |
| 13:05.23 | PaulFertser | thrashold: ain't rsn_ie enough for you? RSN ~is wpa2. |
| 13:06.18 | thrashold | Well, WiFi on the laptop is working, on the FR with the configuration copied from the laptop isn't, so I'm going after all possible differences |
| 13:06.55 | thrashold | If there is correct WPA info on somebody else's FR, then I should change the drivers or iw* userland tools |
| 13:09.06 | PaulFertser | thrashold: do you have 5-sec delay between powering on the wifi module and starting wpa_supplicant? |
| 13:09.40 | thrashold | Well, I'm using wicd, which does a iwlist scan first :) |
| 13:10.39 | PaulFertser | thrashold: also have you read my wifi mail? Have you tried the maxperf trick? Have you tried changing SSID? |
| 13:10.52 | thrashold | I have "successful" authentication half of the time, there is TX and RX packets in ifconfig, but I can't send and receive any :) |
| 13:11.04 | PaulFertser | thrashold: then try maxperf trick |
| 13:11.10 | PaulFertser | A clear clue |
| 13:11.52 | thrashold | This should be fired up each time the WiFi is powered on? |
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| 13:17.28 | bruce | hi all, i need some doc about usb host/device, ex: hot to compile kernel, how to switch usb mode, URL will be ok, thank you very much. :D |
| 13:18.28 | bruce | hello? |
| 13:18.40 | bruce | please! |
| 13:19.28 | PaulFertser | thrashold: yes :( |
| 13:19.43 | PaulFertser | bruce: what device are you talking about? |
| 13:20.04 | bruce | gta02 |
| 13:20.17 | PaulFertser | bruce: why do you want a self-compiled kernel? |
| 13:20.43 | PaulFertser | bruce: and are you going to correct the wrong information you found on the wiki? |
| 13:21.31 | bruce | no. because i have not known it all, so i will not do it |
| 13:21.48 | PaulFertser | bruce: i assumed you already checked the wiki before asking... |
| 13:22.16 | bruce | kk |
| 13:23.07 | bruce | thank you! |
| 13:24.03 | PaulFertser | bruce: btw, the sysfs path will probably differ depending on your kernel version, please keep that in mind. |
| 13:25.20 | thrashold | For more fun, I don't have eth0 on each boot :D |
| 13:25.45 | bruce | oh, i got it. |
| 13:31.11 | thrashold | Where can I find recent builds of the andy-tracking kernel? |
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| 13:39.31 | PaulFertser | thrashold: shr buildhost i guess |
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| 13:49.49 | thrashold | PaulFertser: Thank you very much, the maxperf trick did it |
| 13:50.10 | thrashold | Now if only I find a way to use the trick :) |
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| 15:10.46 | thrashold | Still looking for a binary of a recent working andy-tracking kernel :) |
| 15:11.57 | PaulFertser | thrashold: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ |
| 15:12.34 | thrashold | I looked here, but page search for andy returns nothing |
| 15:13.01 | PaulFertser | thrashold: all .29 kernels there are andy-tracking |
| 15:13.34 | thrashold | PaulFertser: OK, I'll try them, thanks :) |
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| 15:22.53 | thrashold | OK, then, a recent build that works on Debian ;D |
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| 15:26.31 | PaulFertser | thrashold: any kernel should work |
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| 15:28.03 | thrashold | PaulFertser: Well, the lastes .29 from shr-unstable doesn't work as a USB gadget and didn't have WiFi (OK, I booted only once in it so far), and also seemed slower than the andy-tracking build I'm using now |
| 15:28.28 | PaulFertser | thrashold: have you unpacked the modules in the proper place? |
| 15:29.11 | thrashold | PaulFertser: Well, yes |
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| 15:54.29 | chomwitt_ | hi. does wireless work in SHR ? |
| 15:54.53 | skhme | In short: yes |
| 15:55.45 | chomwitt_ | i get into terminal but ifconfig doesnt give me a wireless interface. |
| 15:56.05 | chomwitt_ | and monokonect scans nothing |
| 15:57.37 | chomwitt_ | or strangely scans only one network (from a neighbor) but not mine |
| 15:58.28 | chomwitt_ | is a new neo user , installed SHR and experiments. |
| 16:01.22 | thrashold | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/org.shr.phoneui.Contacts.xml', needed by `phoneuid-contacts-service-glue.h'. Stop |
| 16:01.23 | thrashold | Awesome |
| 16:04.08 | thrashold | Which source does /usr/lib/phoneui/modules/shr.so come from? If such thing exists at all :) |
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| 16:09.37 | PaulFertser | thrashold: http://git.shr-project.org look for phoneui related stuff. |
| 16:10.01 | PaulFertser | chomwitt_: let me suggest you use wpa_supplicant directly, much more productive. |
| 16:10.28 | PaulFertser | chomwitt_: http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg58146.html |
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| 16:14.35 | chomwitt_ | PaulFertser: thanks for the tip! |
| 16:14.41 | PaulFertser | Welcome |
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| 17:09.38 | PaulFertser | Hey folks! Any Emacs users in here? http://wiki.github.com/paulfertser/fso-el/ (unofficial preliminary announcement) |
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| 19:11.16 | wiml | Is there some documentation on what the numbers in [fsodevice.kernel_idle] actually mean? The wiki says what order of power-save states the phone goes through, but not what happens in each state. |
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| 19:18.48 | PaulFertser | i-pink: hey :) |
| 19:19.08 | PaulFertser | i-pink: how're you? How's your shiny cool device? ;) |
| 19:19.20 | i-pink | ××× |
| 19:19.23 | i-pink | hiii |
| 19:19.31 | i-pink | i kill it! |
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| 19:26.17 | PaulFertser | i-pink: do you mean that's a routine procedure, or you really killed it, or are you going to kill it? |
| 19:26.44 | i-pink | is not work |
| 19:26.51 | i-pink | the moko is die |
| 19:27.19 | PaulFertser | i-pink: did you damage hardware somehow? :-O |
| 19:27.33 | i-pink | no |
| 19:28.31 | PaulFertser | i-pink: then what is the problem? :-O FR can't be "bricked" by software means. |
| 19:28.35 | PaulFertser | By design |
| 19:29.31 | i-pink | the softwer not work totaly |
| 19:30.00 | PaulFertser | i-pink: NOR u-boot always works. |
| 19:32.09 | i-pink | but i want hakable |
| 19:34.13 | PaulFertser | i-pink: you just flash everything you need with NOR u-boot. |
| 19:34.49 | i-pink | i need to call to doron.. |
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| 21:09.35 | Bert_2 | Hi, I just flashed the latest SHR-unstable image on my Freerunner and accidentially selected the shr 2 theme instead of the standard one, where can I change it back ? |
| 21:13.56 | tomcatek | Bert_2: remove .e directory |
| 21:14.45 | Bert_2 | k |
| 21:14.48 | Bert_2 | I'll do that |
| 21:14.49 | Bert_2 | thx |
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| 21:49.19 | thrashold | What does it mean if the phoen doesn't start on pressing the power button, instead the AUX blinks red, and there's a slow vibration? |
| 21:49.31 | thrashold | small |
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| 21:58.32 | badcloud_ | thrashold: do you use qi or uboot? |
| 21:58.45 | thrashold | uboot |
| 22:00.26 | badcloud_ | thrashold: damn, qi has documentation regarding vib/aux |
| 22:00.54 | thrashold | I take the battery out, put it back in, and then red light. Red light. After 2-3 minutes it boots :) |
| 22:01.02 | badcloud_ | hmmm |
| 22:01.53 | badcloud_ | no clue, sorry |
| 22:02.13 | badcloud_ | ask tomorrow earlier in the day, you'll find more qualified folk awake |
| 22:02.15 | badcloud_ | :) |
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| 22:26.03 | brian__ | maybe yo kernel is bad |
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