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| 11:42.16 | sYskk | I guess this question is asked oftenly but how does openmoko position in relation to android |
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| 11:48.52 | tim_abell | crap, i have no sound in calls all of a sudden (shr-t) |
| 11:49.24 | tim_abell | things were going so well as well |
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| 11:50.28 | tim_abell | help! |
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| 11:50.47 | tim_abell | i already get enough grief for having a joke of a phone |
| 11:50.52 | tim_abell | i could really do without this |
| 11:51.35 | tim_abell | speaker phone works |
| 11:51.37 | tim_abell | :-s |
| 11:52.14 | tim_abell | sliding back to normal, has no effect |
| 11:52.16 | tim_abell | argh |
| 11:52.17 | tim_abell | shit |
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| 11:55.34 | tim_abell | how long is it going to take for the volume slider fix to get back-ported to shr-t from shr-u? |
| 11:55.39 | tim_abell | i gather the fix is already done |
| 11:55.46 | tim_abell | and i'm guessing my issue is related |
| 11:55.59 | tim_abell | i have a max of 30 mins before i get an earful :( |
| 11:56.15 | tim_abell | i see there are no upgrades pending on the feeds for me |
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| 12:13.59 | tim_abell | excuse me expressing my emotions - fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck |
| 12:14.17 | tim_abell | i can't use my damn phone *again* |
| 12:17.19 | pabs3 | did you upgrade? |
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| 12:24.05 | PaulFertser | tim_abell: you should ask spaetz who's usually doing backporting and other testing-related stuff. |
| 12:25.36 | tim_abell | it wouls seem spaetzzZ is sleeping :) |
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| 13:43.31 | pva_theor | Hi. My openmoko was completely discharged while being in electrical host mode. Now I'm unable to charge it and switch it on. Is there any trick (without charging battery elsewhere) to put openmoko device into device mode again? |
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| 13:46.56 | mjr | I would guess, but not know, that at least removing the battery for a while would reset that setting; that said, it can be tricky to bootstrap the device with a drained battery. |
| 13:48.18 | mjr | you can't boot it even with external power plugged in? |
| 13:48.42 | pabs3 | anyone know when shr-stable is expected to be released? |
| 13:49.03 | pva_theor | mjr: yup. and even with/without battery... |
| 13:51.29 | pabs3 | isn't there a trick with NOR bootloader? |
| 13:52.13 | mjr | have you tried to keep it attached to power for a couple of hours in the hopes that it'll trickle-charge sufficiently? (IIRC at least GTA01 did that, not sure about FR though) |
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| 13:54.39 | pabs3 | pva_theor: perhaps this section helps: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_(GTA02)_Battery#Make_sure_your_battery_never_discharges_completely. |
| 13:56.23 | PaulFertser | pva_theor: search for "flat battery" advices on the wiki. |
| 13:56.52 | PaulFertser | pabs3: the trick with nor bootloader works with some hosts but not with others... Seems to always work with the wallcharger. |
| 13:57.13 | PaulFertser | pva_theor: so basically the easiest: use your wallcharger to boot to NOR |
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| 14:04.18 | pva_theor | Thank you guys. I'll try ) |
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| 17:53.28 | brolin_empey | peeks and pokes zeroedout. ;) |
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| 17:55.44 | brolin_empey | radekp: I left my FR charging overnight at home. In the morning, my FR was dead again: I had to remove the battery to get it to power on again. After QtMoko finished booting, the "Welcome to Qt Extended" first-run setup wizard was stuck in an infinite loop: every time I completed it, it would start again. I needed to go to work, but QtMoko would not suspend, so I powered off my FR. |
| 17:56.05 | brolin_empey | radekp: Now I am at work and QtMoko still has the same problem. :( |
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| 18:15.09 | brolin_empey | radekp: RNDIS appears to not work so I cannot even ssh into QtMoko while the first-run wizard is running. :( |
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| 18:23.10 | radekp | brolin_empey: do you have qtmoko in NAND or on SD card? |
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| 18:43.09 | brolin_empey | radekp: in NAND, as always. |
| 18:44.45 | brolin_empey | radekp: RNDIS works now. It did not work before because I booted my FR with it connected to my PC, so I had to unplug and replug the USB cable after QtMoko was finished booting. |
| 18:45.16 | radekp | maybe there will be someting intersting in /var/log/messages |
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| 18:51.41 | brolin_empey | radekp: Interesting: ARP on QtMoko works for our LAN's Internet gateway (192.168.0.2) at work, but not at home: at home, I have to manually add an ARP entry. Both LAN's Internet gateway is at 192.168.0.2, but at work we have a Thompson Speedtouch ADSL modem connected to a Linksys WRT54GL v1.1 running DD-WRT; at home, I have a Siemens Gigaset wireless ADSL gateway (ADSL modem + wired gateway + WLAN access point all in 1 box). Bo |
| 18:54.34 | brolin_empey | radekp: Why does my FR keep dying, even after I have upgraded from moko8, which came with my FR, to the current moko11 and upgraded to the current QtMoko release? :( |
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| 18:56.47 | radekp | brolin_empey: no idea, i dont have enough info to tell |
| 18:57.25 | radekp | brolin_empey: nothing in /var/log/messages ? |
| 18:57.46 | radekp | do you have charged battery? |
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| 19:02.10 | brolin_empey | radekp: Yes, the battery is charged, but there are lots of messages indicating JFFS2 corruption in /var/log/messages . :( |
| 19:03.55 | radekp | hmm i have problem that i cant flash qtmoko jffs image on my phone too |
| 19:04.08 | radekp | wonders what could be the cause |
| 19:04.30 | radekp | can you try qtmoko on SD card? |
| 19:05.09 | radekp | i think it could work well with sd clock speed lowered |
| 19:06.09 | brolin_empey | radekp: I could, but I would rather continue using QtMoko on NAND. Can I fsck the JFFS2 file system on NAND while I am running QtMoko from it? |
| 19:06.40 | radekp | i dont think so |
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| 19:08.44 | brolin_empey | radekp: We have had problems with JFFS2 corruption on NAND on our SA2410 Medallion CPU Module at work too. The SA2410 uses the S3C2410AL, same as the Neo 1973. |
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| 19:15.12 | brolin_empey | radekp: I have a DBoard at home. Would that help? Or should I just install QtMoko on a spare SD card and boot from it so I can try to fsck the JFFS2 on NAND? |
| 19:15.59 | radekp | brolin_empey: i'd try install on SD card |
| 19:17.14 | brolin_empey | radekp: I have 2 spare HP 8 GB Class 4 microSDHC cards because I bought 3 cards total because I thought I may need them for my 5 spare FRs. I was regretting buying 3 cards instead of 1 because so far I have used only 1, but now it seems the 2 spare cards will be useful after all. :) |
| 19:17.37 | radekp | brolin_empey: :) |
| 19:18.12 | radekp | brolin_empey: in fact if running from would turn out to be smooth, it could be better then NAND |
| 19:18.51 | radekp | brolin_empey: you have more space on rootfs and you can easily make backup (on PC with SD card reader) |
| 19:18.59 | swoody | brolin_empey: 5 spare FR's? :o What do you do with those puppies? |
| 19:19.48 | brolin_empey | radekp: Now I can have a QtMoko card to test my 5 spare FRs without worrying about losing anything important from the card. :) |
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| 19:23.04 | brolin_empey | radekp: Yes, I would have enough space to install OpenOffice.org! ;) Seriously, though, I prefer running QtMoko from NAND because I still have sufficient space in / and can change SD cards without having to connect a USB card reader to the FR since QtMoko runs from NAND. |
| 19:25.07 | brolin_empey | swoody: The display did not come on on 1 of the 5, so I do not know if it works. Currently, they all sit on my |
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| 19:26.09 | brolin_empey | swoody: The display did not come on on 1 of the 5, so I do not know if it works. Currently, they all sit on my "dining room" table, which I never use for dining any more, because I do not currently have a use for them. |
| 19:27.10 | swoody | brolin_empey: wow, I'm trying to afford one, lol. You didn't try to RMA the one with the screen issue? |
| 19:28.27 | brolin_empey | swoody: I say "dining room" table because I have a 1-bedroom apartment, which has the (carpeted (fail)) dining area and living room in the same room. |
| 19:28.53 | swoody | brolin_empey: ah, I gotcha. My last apartment was just like that, too. |
| 19:29.09 | swoody | major carpet fail there, too. You would suck up half of it with a vacuum :/ |
| 19:33.49 | brolin_empey | swoody: I cannot RMA it because I bought everything as-is for 150 USD. See http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-March/060655.html |
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| 19:34.53 | swoody | brolin_empey: very cool :) |
| 19:35.29 | swoody | brolin_empey: have you tested them with a headset yet? |
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| 19:42.59 | brolin_empey | swoody: No, I am too busy with my FR #0. See http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-March/060980.html |
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