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| 00:21.08 | _beast_at | hi everyone |
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| 01:02.30 | fredrin | is it smart of dumb to run the GSM firmware upgrade process inside of 'screen'? |
| 01:02.48 | fredrin | or.. |
| 01:03.55 | fredrin | instead of using 2 ssh connections |
| 01:04.04 | fredrin | and if the ssh connection dies or something |
| 01:04.32 | fredrin | or if it suspends... gah |
| 01:06.55 | SpeedEvil | screen is always better than ssh |
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| 01:07.49 | Dave | norsk! |
| 01:08.55 | TsaiHarry | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry |
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| 01:10.33 | TsaiHarry | give a hand fill the survey...thanks :D |
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| 01:27.13 | Gras | ello |
| 01:28.03 | Dave | :o |
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| 01:29.40 | orzo | will the gta01 charge faster if i plug it in turned off? |
| 01:29.59 | Dave | orzo! |
| 01:30.03 | orzo | dave! |
| 01:30.06 | Dave | and, no |
| 01:30.21 | Dave | (it will not) |
| 01:30.48 | orzo | damn |
| 01:31.03 | orzo | the low battery life wouldnt be as bad if it charged instantly |
| 01:31.23 | Dave | :\ |
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| 01:33.24 | orzo | i broke an ereader today |
| 01:33.30 | orzo | dropped it |
| 01:33.49 | Dave | :O |
| 01:35.47 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 01:35.54 | SpeedEvil | Can I have the bits? |
| 01:35.58 | SpeedEvil | stabs e-ink |
| 01:36.10 | SpeedEvil | (for their lack of selling e-ink film) |
| 01:36.30 | SpeedEvil | Though :/ |
| 01:36.36 | orzo | well i need it for what it still does atm |
| 01:36.43 | SpeedEvil | I'd really like an open-source reader. |
| 01:37.23 | orzo | since all my sd slots seem to break, the one on the reader has become important |
| 01:38.25 | SpeedEvil | USB-SD are very cheap fortunately. |
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| 01:40.21 | orzo | oh |
| 01:40.29 | orzo | well so are broken ereaders |
| 01:40.47 | orzo | i saw some on ebay, prs 505 |
| 01:40.58 | orzo | why do you want the bits? |
| 01:42.12 | SpeedEvil | orzo: to try harvesting the film from. |
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| 01:43.23 | SpeedEvil | Actually, practically, I suppose I have enough to be going on with. |
| 01:43.39 | SpeedEvil | I got some displays from magazine ads from eba |
| 01:43.42 | SpeedEvil | y |
| 01:44.25 | orzo | what are you going to do with it? |
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| 01:45.02 | SpeedEvil | I just find it annoying that I can't try some ideas I have. |
| 01:45.02 | SpeedEvil | well - can't commercialise, I may be able to try. |
| 01:45.28 | SpeedEvil | For example. Take some e-ink film, place on a conductive plastic backsheet. Now 'wipe' a printer over it, and you can instantly re-write it. |
| 01:45.39 | SpeedEvil | Ideal for rewritable permenant labels. |
| 01:46.23 | SpeedEvil | Take a small micro and some SD, and place it in a 3cm*10cm cylinder or so, with a slot in the middle, with a linear strip of electrodes at 100DPI. |
| 01:46.40 | SpeedEvil | Pull an e-ink page through, get an instantly printed page. |
| 01:46.53 | SpeedEvil | at _much_ lower cost than the current book readers. |
| 01:48.07 | SpeedEvil | Or laminate it with conductive plastic film, place on a specially designed PCB, and you've got a cheap segmented display. |
| 01:48.17 | SpeedEvil | Redesignable by only swapping the PCB |
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| 02:45.20 | harrytt | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry, give me few minutes fill the survey...thanks |
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| 04:16.59 | fredrin | gah, how can I debug Wifi? |
| 04:18.21 | Dave | gameover |
| 04:18.26 | Dave | abandon ship |
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| 04:19.06 | fredrin | Dave: pirates? |
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| 04:23.53 | mwester | fredrin: Nope -- the captain ran the ship into the rocks. |
| 04:25.07 | Dave | :D |
| 04:25.17 | Dave | ahoy, matey! |
| 04:25.24 | slaxxin | Mutiny |
| 04:25.55 | mwester | you stay aboard and mutiny -- with the fish. I'm swimming for the next boat. |
| 04:25.58 | slaxxin | more faster an better |
| 04:26.04 | Dave | hahaha |
| 04:26.31 | slaxxin | davey |
| 04:26.45 | fredrin | welcome to the real pirateship |
| 04:27.13 | Dave | yarr |
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| 04:58.32 | slaxxin | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/glibc/images/om-gta02/ |
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| 05:06.13 | AntonTakk2 | night all |
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| 05:24.49 | fredrin | trying opkg upgrade on shr-testing..... |
| 05:25.02 | slaxxin | cool |
| 05:25.11 | slaxxin | proly break |
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| 05:25.29 | fredrin | most likely |
| 05:26.03 | fredrin | slaxxin: have you upgraded your gsm firmware? |
| 05:26.04 | slaxxin | gettin some stuff/? |
| 05:26.10 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.18 | fredrin | things are updating |
| 05:26.18 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.24 | fredrin | same here |
| 05:26.39 | fredrin | my v7 got stolen, but I had two :) |
| 05:26.52 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.59 | fredrin | eh? |
| 05:27.22 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.44 | fredrin | yes |
| 05:27.49 | slaxxin | it would phone home with cordinates |
| 05:28.27 | fredrin | just seams like all packages have gotten .1 added to them |
| 05:28.51 | slaxxin | huh? |
| 05:29.12 | slaxxin | maybe the gps will work now |
| 05:30.02 | slaxxin | well maybe thats bad |
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| 05:34.08 | fredrin | opkg died :( |
| 05:34.16 | fredrin | opkg: fork failed |
| 05:34.16 | fredrin | Segmentation fault |
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| 05:35.11 | slaxxin | flash man |
| 05:35.39 | slaxxin | Linux om-gta02 2.6.28-rc4 #1 PREEMPT Sun Feb 8 19:53:16 CET 2009 armv4tl unknown |
| 05:35.46 | fredrin | nah, trying downgrading from shr-unstable to shr-testing :) |
| 05:35.57 | fredrin | if that fails, flashing |
| 05:36.16 | fredrin | slaxxin: are you using same kernel as me now? |
| 05:36.38 | harrytt | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry give me a hand fill the survey....pls |
| 05:37.37 | fredrin | harrytt: i looked at it |
| 05:38.00 | harrytt | give few minutes..please |
| 05:38.10 | harrytt | finish it .... |
| 05:39.28 | slaxxin | i recon so |
| 05:40.07 | slaxxin | epiano has no icon |
| 05:40.27 | slaxxin | guitar tuner terminated 3 times |
| 05:41.34 | fredrin | harrytt: tried, but it was to boring, so i just started to fill it out random just to see all the questions, but i did not submit. |
| 05:42.01 | harrytt | I know survey is boring.... |
| 05:42.36 | slaxxin | looks as if smssentry installed |
| 05:42.49 | fredrin | most of the questions i did not have any strong feelings for |
| 05:43.07 | fredrin | slaxxin: from opkg.org? |
| 05:44.20 | slaxxin | yup |
| 05:45.27 | slaxxin | sound works:) |
| 05:48.27 | fredrin | opkg dies randomly |
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| 05:49.41 | mwester | opkg is a horrible tangle of code |
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| 05:50.03 | DocScrutinizer | :-) |
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| 05:54.51 | fredrin | mwester: who made opkg? |
| 05:56.09 | mwester | It was done under contract for Openmoko. The names of the guilty are in the sources, but to be fair to them, I suspect that there was only one individual who wrote/designed the worst of it, and everyone else just tried their best to patch up the horror. |
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| 05:58.02 | fredrin | mwester: what would be the right way to do it then? make apt-get work? |
| 05:59.41 | slaxxin | usr the openmoko /applications wiki? |
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| 06:00.40 | mwester | fredrin: That's the right question to ask. I'm the release manager for the SlugOS distro -- we followed OE's direction and moved to opkg as well. So I have spent a fair amount of time with opkg sources, and in my opinion, it is not possible to salvage it. So I am investigating stripping down dpkg to make it fit. |
| 06:01.13 | mwester | Frankly, the gta0x devices have enough ram and cpu to run the full dpkg/apt solution, they should all switch to that. |
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| 06:01.47 | fredrin | mwester: sounds like the right thing to do |
| 06:02.02 | fredrin | it works nice with the debian distributions |
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| 06:04.03 | fredrin | guss making packages would be easier too |
| 06:08.56 | fredrin | mwester: is ipkg also a deadend system? |
| 06:10.30 | fredrin | ok, read in the wiki now that ipkg was a dead system with tradmark/name problems |
| 06:10.36 | mwester | ipkg worked, or at least we knew what was broken with it. |
| 06:11.26 | mwester | the real truth is that ipkg was owned by a gentleman who has a running feud with some of the handheld-device community, so there is too much bad blood there for anyone to have picked up ipkg. |
| 06:13.03 | fredrin | ah, the wonderful world of open source :) |
| 06:14.08 | mwester | :D |
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| 06:34.47 | slaxxin | well now if tangogps didnt error/fail when u try to change the OSM map location to the media card ,, i would be good |
| 06:35.16 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:35.50 | slaxxin | shr |
| 06:35.59 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.16 | fredrin | i'm testing now aswell |
| 06:36.21 | slaxxin | slo but well |
| 06:36.41 | fredrin | after flashing |
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| 06:54.03 | fredrin | just for fun, i did opkg update && opkg upgrade after flashing to latest shr-testing, but opkg still dies |
| 06:54.23 | fredrin | about here: |
| 06:54.25 | fredrin | Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/shared-mime-info_0.51-r2.1_armv4t.ipk |
| 06:54.26 | fredrin | opkg: fork failed |
| 06:54.26 | fredrin | Segmentation fault |
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| 07:05.05 | Hopscotch | :q |
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| 07:53.29 | methril|work | morning |
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| 07:58.09 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 09:27.27 | alx_ | hi all |
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| 09:42.25 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4943 10/developers/werner/gta03/cam/cap2ppm.pl: Quick and dirty camera capture to PPM conerter. |
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| 10:48.17 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4944 10/developers/werner/gta03/cam/capture/ (. Makefile NOTES capture.c cpc): |
| 10:48.17 | CIA-49 | openmoko: Slightly modified version of V4L2's "capture" example. (Just for debugging. |
| 10:48.17 | CIA-49 | openmoko: Don't build on this.) |
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| 11:06.01 | panicking | Hi all, I wold like to retreive USSD message in text mode. anyone know how Can I do? I look throw at documentation but I don't find nothing |
| 11:06.52 | max_posedon | As fast intro I suggest run dbus -s -l |
| 11:07.04 | max_posedon | retreive USSD and see dbus -s -l log |
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| 11:15.44 | panicking | http://pastebin.com/d79c0cfd9 |
| 11:15.51 | panicking | I'm on android |
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| 11:15.55 | panicking | freerunner |
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| 11:40.43 | rhkfin | Trying to cross-compile, runnign make gives me "/usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format" - What to do, I have no idea? opkg-target list|grep thread |
| 11:40.51 | rhkfin | doesn't return anything. |
| 11:41.17 | rhkfin | neither does apt-cache search gthread |
| 11:43.56 | mickey|cafe | sounds like you're using wrong CFLAGS or have configured libtool wrongly, it shouldn't pick up your host includes |
| 11:44.03 | mickey|cafe | getting this stuff right is tough |
| 11:44.11 | mickey|cafe | that's why Openmoko is using OE |
| 11:44.42 | mickey|cafe | might check whether the cross-version of libgthread is present at all |
| 11:44.57 | Weiss | yep.. it should be looking for an ARM version of libgthread-2.0.so somewhere (run 'file /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so' to check that format the other version is) |
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| 11:46.00 | rhkfin | /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: symbolic link to `libgthread-2.0.so.0.1800.2' |
| 11:46.21 | rhkfin | I'm using this instruction http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/cross_compiling/READ.txt |
| 11:46.32 | rhkfin | Trying to compile vagalume (last.fm client) |
| 11:46.56 | mickey|cafe | recommends an existing package |
| 11:47.01 | mickey|cafe | unless you want to work on it |
| 11:47.12 | rhkfin | mickey|cafe: of vagalume? where/how? |
| 11:47.38 | rhkfin | http://vagalume.igalia.com/ has maemo/debian/etc packages.. |
| 11:47.54 | rhkfin | I guess debian is closest -> 'ar' a .deb and see what happens? |
| 11:48.05 | mickey|cafe | try one of our feeds |
| 11:48.11 | mickey|cafe | e.g. downloads.freesmartphone.org |
| 11:48.18 | rhkfin | point taken :) |
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| 11:51.09 | rhkfin | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=vagalume - I fear that the dependencies require too new packages. I'll try it later. |
| 11:51.55 | Weiss | if the binary package has lots of dependencies, you're unlikely to have an easier ride compiling from source :) |
| 11:52.30 | rhkfin | right |
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| 13:14.25 | zobi8225 | hi |
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| 14:07.33 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4945 10/developers/werner/gta03/cam/patches/ (8 files): Restructure patches for submission. Back out the atrocities in wip.patch |
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| 14:37.24 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4946 10/developers/werner/ahrt/host/tmc/ (lib/scope.py lib/wave.py python.c): |
| 14:37.24 | CIA-49 | openmoko: - python.c: increase buffer size from 1 MB to > 20 MB |
| 14:37.24 | CIA-49 | openmoko: - lib/scope.py: added basic support for Tektronix MSO4000 series |
| 14:37.24 | CIA-49 | openmoko: - lib/wave.py: label assignment logic in "binary" incorrectly assumed that we |
| 14:37.24 | CIA-49 | openmoko: only use waves, no scalars |
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| 14:54.24 | rhkfin | So, anyone intersted in the programming competition: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/ |
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| 15:02.33 | SpeedEvil | That URL is wrong. |
| 15:02.41 | SpeedEvil | http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competit |
| 15:02.41 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:03.13 | SpeedEvil | (though it's appoaching usablity, in many ways that's not as true as it was a relatively short time ago) |
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| 15:04.50 | SpeedEvil | And isn't gsoc programming competitions? |
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| 15:37.05 | slaxxin | shr made it through the night:) |
| 15:37.28 | slaxxin | woke up from suspend well; |
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| 16:09.25 | spydon | Can I make the freerunner wake up from suspend if I'm ssh'd into it? |
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| 16:10.01 | mwester | being ssh'd in should not affect suspend/resume in any way. |
| 16:10.13 | cjb | spydon: I don't think wlan is powered during suspend |
| 16:10.24 | spydon | through USB ofc |
| 16:11.27 | mwester | USB is shut down on suspend without regard to any connections that might be open over it. |
| 16:11.43 | mwester | So it should suspend and resume completely normally, no matter if you are ssh'd in or not. |
| 16:12.18 | cjb | mwester: (I think he's saying that he *wants* it to resume when he sends new data over ssh.) |
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| 16:12.37 | cjb | but I agree, it won't work, everything's unpowered then. |
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| 16:12.53 | spydon | well I am connected over ssh and I can do stuff on the phone but the screen is black after it suspended and it doesn't wake up if I press the button... |
| 16:13.01 | mwester | cjb: Oh, ok - then I misunderstood his question, as stated it sounds like he's having trouble resuming if he is ssh'd in. |
| 16:13.35 | cjb | oh, hah, looks like you're right |
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| 16:16.47 | spydon | Hehe I should have stated the question better :P |
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| 16:27.12 | slaxxin | lots of applications wont install correctly |
| 16:27.57 | slaxxin | guitar tuner terminates |
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| 16:28.28 | henk | what distri are you talking about? |
| 16:28.50 | slaxxin | is it that people go in an change the programs that breaks them |
| 16:28.59 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.07 | slaxxin | testing |
| 16:30.11 | slaxxin | tangoGPS quits when i try to change the maps to /media/card/maps |
| 16:31.11 | slaxxin | gps works though |
| 16:31.15 | henk | i've given up on those distris ... |
| 16:31.23 | slaxxin | might be my card |
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| 16:31.41 | slaxxin | qtopia now? |
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| 16:31.46 | slaxxin | debian? |
| 16:31.47 | henk | no, debian |
| 16:32.06 | slaxxin | i used fyp for a week |
| 16:32.08 | henk | on the card. fyp in the flash atm, but that probably sucks too... |
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| 16:32.32 | slaxxin | battery goes too fast |
| 16:32.44 | slaxxin | cant see the buttons |
| 16:33.04 | slaxxin | if your 15 it might be ok |
| 16:33.23 | henk | i'll wait for om2009 before trying to use it as a phone again... |
| 16:33.25 | slaxxin | im 49 |
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| 16:33.46 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.56 | tomboy64 | henk, actually i find it embarassing that google's os is actually more usable already :( |
| 16:34.15 | slaxxin | they get paid |
| 16:34.25 | slaxxin | lots |
| 16:35.02 | slaxxin | how many people are on that program anyway? |
| 16:35.07 | henk | tomboy64: i think it's an unfair comparison... google vs. openmoko is something like david vs. goliath |
| 16:35.10 | slaxxin | 1000? |
| 16:35.19 | slaxxin | 5000? |
| 16:35.30 | tomboy64 | henk, well, david won |
| 16:35.43 | tomboy64 | even linux triumphs against windows every day |
| 16:35.51 | henk | tomboy64: true. but afaict openmoko isn't half as clever as david... |
| 16:35.52 | tomboy64 | (which started out as david once, too) |
| 16:35.56 | tomboy64 | :-D |
| 16:36.00 | tomboy64 | apparently |
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| 16:36.10 | slaxxin | unless u want to usa a lexmark printer |
| 16:37.44 | henk | tomboy64: true, linux did win, but look at the competition... that's like david vs. a picasso picture of goliath senior... |
| 16:38.10 | tomboy64 | ;) |
| 16:38.17 | slaxxin | i use my neo as a phone every day all the time everywhere |
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| 16:40.00 | slaxxin | the lack of a dictator whit a clear plan makes u guys flutter around in all directions using your minds to the fullest weather u like it or not:) |
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| 16:40.31 | slaxxin | which is very good for the community as a whole |
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| 16:42.02 | Dave | hehe, silly slaxin |
| 16:45.27 | slaxxin | flutter on dude |
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| 17:08.42 | shellevil | does anyone happen to know of any eye-tracker mice? |
| 17:08.55 | shellevil | (not for phone use) |
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| 17:11.13 | Dave | Evil! |
| 17:11.22 | Dave | eye-tracker? |
| 17:11.23 | cjb | shellevil: headtracking is much cheaper |
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| 17:11.30 | Dave | hah! |
| 17:11.41 | cjb | http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/ |
| 17:11.56 | cjb | (that wasn't a joke, it really is, you don't need to do any computation) |
| 17:12.17 | cjb | you wear an infra-red dot on some glasses on something and it tracks that, it beats trying to work out which way an eye is pointing |
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| 17:16.13 | henk | where do i find official information about moko11? |
| 17:17.39 | shellevil | cj: interesting |
| 17:20.16 | henk | DocScrutinizer2: ping |
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| 17:21.54 | lenin_ | hey |
| 17:22.01 | lenin_ | I just bought freerunner |
| 17:22.43 | henk | how much did you pay? |
| 17:23.53 | lenin_ | idk I had birthday today |
| 17:23.58 | lenin_ | just see how it is working |
| 17:23.59 | max_posedon | lenin_, green card inside box cintains good link) |
| 17:24.09 | max_posedon | *contains* |
| 17:24.20 | lenin_ | I know |
| 17:24.33 | lenin_ | but I can not type "/" in my phone |
| 17:24.56 | lenin_ | to connect network from my debian |
| 17:25.11 | henk | what distribution are you using? |
| 17:25.26 | lenin_ | Debian |
| 17:25.43 | henk | on the phone? |
| 17:25.56 | lenin_ | on the phone i do not know I just bought it |
| 17:25.59 | henk | or both phone and desktop? |
| 17:26.20 | henk | ah ok, i'd advise you to have a look at wiki.openmoko.org for the available distributions. |
| 17:27.44 | henk | are you a developer? |
| 17:27.59 | lenin_ | not yet I am at start of this big adventure |
| 17:29.25 | henk | what kind of adventure? using it as a phone? helping in making it usable as a phone? just play around with the hardware? |
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| 17:30.23 | lenin_ | henk: could you tell me have type "/" in my phone |
| 17:30.46 | Dave | :o |
| 17:31.37 | lenin_ | humm? |
| 17:31.50 | henk | lenin_: probably not. by default the devices come with 2007.x, which is old, obsolete, unmaintained. |
| 17:32.10 | henk | afaik. |
| 17:32.13 | lenin_ | humm |
| 17:32.27 | lenin_ | so how can I connect phone with netwrok? |
| 17:32.27 | henk | so you probably want to change distribution anyway. |
| 17:32.40 | henk | ssh? |
| 17:32.45 | lenin_ | ah |
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| 17:34.23 | lenin_ | I need install debian on? |
| 17:34.34 | henk | you can |
| 17:35.00 | lenin_ | and then all will working |
| 17:35.09 | lenin_ | some helpbooks? |
| 17:35.20 | henk | no |
| 17:35.28 | lenin_ | uff |
| 17:35.33 | henk | helpbooks? |
| 17:35.44 | henk | wiki.openmoko.org is everything you need for the start :) |
| 17:36.18 | lindi- | lenin_: beware, the wiki is bit messy, don't trust everything it says without checking the facts :) |
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| 17:38.07 | lenin_ | I think I had openmoko 2007 |
| 17:38.35 | lenin_ | and I need install debian? |
| 17:39.00 | henk | lenin_: you _can_. there are about 8 distris available for the openmoko... |
| 17:39.16 | henk | as almost always in oss: your choice |
| 17:39.41 | lenin_ | I had debian on my computer so it will be better to install it on my phone |
| 17:40.27 | Wonka | i like debian, but would like to have some of the bling of shr there |
| 17:40.35 | lindi- | lenin_: please note #openmoko-debian |
| 17:43.00 | lenin_ | humm... maybe I try to stay with openmoko first cuz I need my phone for tommorow working |
| 17:43.25 | henk | .oO( haha ) |
| 17:44.08 | Wonka | good lick |
| 17:44.41 | henk | Wonka: s/i/u/ |
| 17:44.53 | Wonka | good luck, even |
| 17:45.05 | henk | freud? |
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| 17:45.29 | Wonka | typing with fingernail on matchbox-keyboard... |
| 17:46.11 | Wonka | what definition of "working", lenin_? |
| 17:46.12 | henk | oh, you are forgiven ;) |
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| 17:47.55 | Wonka | FR with GPRS rpocks :) |
| 17:48.00 | Wonka | irc from train |
| 17:48.13 | Wonka | hi roh |
| 17:48.28 | henk | i'd become crazy |
| 17:48.35 | henk | i hate those keyboards. |
| 17:48.46 | CVirus | Wonka: cool |
| 17:48.52 | henk | too much... what's it called? feinmotorik in german... |
| 17:49.56 | henk | i'd probably be ok with qwo probably... |
| 17:50.31 | leinir | Fine motor skills :) |
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| 17:52.33 | Wonka | :) |
| 17:52.55 | Wonka | <- german |
| 17:52.55 | Wonka | it's easier with the stylus - you can recach quite decent tsypingspeeds. |
| 17:53.05 | lenin_ | so how can I type "/" in openmoko 2007 |
| 17:53.16 | Wonka | and quite impressive typos |
| 17:53.29 | Wonka | lenin_: dunno... |
| 17:53.34 | lenin_ | :/ |
| 17:54.27 | lenin_ | can I connect it with network without any configuration on phone? only debian? |
| 17:55.15 | Wonka | usb networking works fine here |
| 17:56.04 | lenin_ | humm |
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| 17:57.20 | kW | Hello, does anybody know the pinout of the 2.5mm audio jack of the openmoko freerunner? |
| 17:57.23 | lenin_ | so if I type auto usb0 in network configuration |
| 17:57.44 | Wonka | can tell more, but with a big keyboard... |
| 17:58.04 | lenin_ | I automatically connec wth network? |
| 17:58.13 | Wonka | lenin_: the fr does not hand out DHCP by default |
| 17:58.15 | henk | lenin_: why do you press enter after half of a sentence? that's disturbing. |
| 17:58.29 | lenin_ | =( |
| 17:58.30 | henk | lenin_: no, you have to bring up the interface and give it an ip. |
| 17:59.27 | lenin_ | k |
| 17:59.29 | lenin_ | I will try |
| 17:59.41 | Wonka | by default, it's 192.168.0.202/324 |
| 17:59.51 | Wonka | on usb0 |
| 18:00.57 | Wonka | with a defaul route to 192.168.0.201 |
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| 18:21.20 | DocScrutinizer2 | henk: pong |
| 18:23.21 | DocScrutinizer2 | duh, 192.168.0.201??? |
| 18:23.35 | DocScrutinizer2 | always thought it's ..200 |
| 18:23.51 | henk | DocScrutinizer2: where is the latest official info about moko11? |
| 18:24.02 | DocScrutinizer2 | lol. |
| 18:24.06 | DocScrutinizer2 | in my head? |
| 18:24.11 | DocScrutinizer2 | nah |
| 18:24.47 | DocScrutinizer2 | seriously, you'll find it somewhere spread over gsm/flashing wiki, and devel-ML thread |
| 18:25.20 | DocScrutinizer2 | but plain asking me might be a more direct way to get your answer ;-) |
| 18:25.21 | henk | cp brain://docscrutinizer/*moko11* http://wiki.openmoko.org/ |
| 18:25.40 | henk | DocScrutinizer2: ok, sanest flashing procedure? |
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| 18:27.29 | DocScrutinizer2 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image |
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| 18:28.55 | DocScrutinizer2 | henk: if you're not a total noob on linux or even a win-only (l)user ;-) |
| 18:29.24 | henk | DocScrutinizer2: neither luckily 'g' |
| 18:29.37 | DocScrutinizer2 | so you'll probably like it |
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| 18:30.54 | DocScrutinizer2 | (though I seem to remember someone here on IRC promised to add a section about win-dd to the wikipage ;D ) |
| 18:31.14 | henk | o_O |
| 18:31.42 | henk | DocScrutinizer2: why boot from nor uboot? |
| 18:31.44 | DocScrutinizer2 | maybe he'll find win-untar as well ;) |
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| 18:32.53 | DocScrutinizer2 | cause chances are better to find a NOR version that's actually working for booting this image. NOR hadn't that many different versions ;-) |
| 18:33.03 | DocScrutinizer2 | no other particular reason |
| 18:33.55 | DocScrutinizer2 | and even it's 8sec faster ;P |
| 18:34.34 | henk | qi? |
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| 18:37.18 | DocScrutinizer2 | not yet |
| 18:38.02 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r039067a318e8 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: ogsmd: Add "message-class" property to SMS classes |
| 18:38.03 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * rdf2bce9c259e 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: |
| 18:38.04 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: raise an error on incorrect MTI fields |
| 18:38.04 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: We can't really recover from this error since the MTI defines the rest |
| 18:38.05 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: of the message format. |
| 18:38.07 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * rf664ad40e32a 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (gsm/sms.py modems/abstract/mediator.py): |
| 18:38.10 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Introduce types guess-submit and guess-deliver |
| 18:38.12 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: These will first try to decode the message as sms-submit/-deliver |
| 18:38.14 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: message and if that fails they will try to decode as |
| 18:38.16 | DocScrutinizer2 | though it *should* work if you create the correct link (vimage-foo-GTA02.bin or sth) to /boot |
| 18:38.16 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: sms-deliver/-status-report. This helps when you encounter SIMs on which |
| 18:38.18 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: sms-deliver-reports have been stored. |
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| 18:39.33 | DocScrutinizer2 | alas Qi doesn't show STOUT to console so you might miss the actual FLUID output and only see the Angstrom logo in green after some looong time of silence |
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| 18:40.00 | henk | i'll just use nor :) |
| 18:40.21 | DocScrutinizer2 | yup, it's much simpler to cope with that |
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| 18:40.56 | DocScrutinizer2 | there will be an improved version also working with Qi though, in a few days |
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| 18:41.49 | henk | ok |
| 18:42.17 | DocScrutinizer2 | in /home/root you have 2 scripts flash-moko11 and flash-moko10. You can call these from ssh as well |
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| 18:43.08 | DocScrutinizer2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:44.27 | DocScrutinizer2 | the scripts rely on a very new patch of /sysfs gsm power node, so this is fso-ms5-rootfs, but it's most recent andy-tracking kernel |
| 18:46.32 | DocScrutinizer2 | it's an ugly hack so far, as fluid is somewhat random on result and returncode, and has other funny ideas about behaving in linux |
| 18:46.55 | DocScrutinizer2 | but it works usually, means we never seen it fail so far |
| 18:51.49 | DocScrutinizer2 | henk: please report about your results. Preferably to joerg@om.org (see readme in tarball) |
| 18:53.32 | henk | DocScrutinizer2: what result? about bugs being fixed or not? |
| 18:54.46 | DocScrutinizer2 | just about experience with uSD-image and flashing. Of course reports on bugs (not) being fixed with MOKO11 are welcome, but MOKO11 is considered "official" by now |
| 18:58.02 | henk | works fine so far, some btusb interrupt messages fscked up the progress bar, but apart from that it's perfect |
| 18:59.20 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc3114ce306ad 10/ (11 files in 5 dirs): first sketch at plugin class |
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| 19:24.48 | fredrin | DocScrutinizer2: are you gsm-firmware guy? |
| 19:25.26 | lenin_ | can someone help me to connect my openmoko with network on debian? |
| 19:26.03 | fredrin | lenin_: wifi? |
| 19:26.08 | lenin_ | no |
| 19:26.08 | lenin_ | usb |
| 19:26.16 | fredrin | lenin_: what distro? |
| 19:26.20 | lenin_ | Debian |
| 19:26.33 | DocScrutinizer2 | fredrin: well, sort of |
| 19:26.34 | lenin_ | Debian <-> Openmoko |
| 19:26.57 | Zorkman | fredrin, : he is the HW guy, but he also made that image to flash the firmware |
| 19:27.16 | fredrin | DocScrutinizer2: I was wondering if it's smart or dumb to use 'screen' to flash the firmware, instead of two ssh connections |
| 19:27.33 | fredrin | Zorkman: is there an image to flash the firmware? |
| 19:27.55 | DocScrutinizer2 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image |
| 19:27.55 | fredrin | lenin_: what have you tried so fare? |
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| 19:28.13 | bumbl | ²/EXIT |
| 19:28.18 | Zorkman | bye bumbl |
| 19:28.19 | Zorkman | :) |
| 19:28.35 | DocScrutinizer2 | ²³¼ |
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| 19:32.10 | methril|laptop | re |
| 19:37.53 | fredrin | DocScrutinizer2: what will the dd command be? "dd of=moko.image if=/dev/mmcblk0 " |
| 19:38.31 | DocScrutinizer2 | s/if/of/;s/of/if/ |
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| 19:39.19 | fredrin | dd if=moko.image of=/dev/mmcblk0 |
| 19:39.31 | fredrin | :) |
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| 19:40.10 | DocScrutinizer2 | dd if=flash-moko11-2.image of=<your_uSD_device>; #this is NO partition |
| 19:40.15 | DocScrutinizer2 | see README |
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| 19:40.42 | fredrin | ok, I'm downloading the image now, so can't see the readme file yet |
| 19:42.10 | DocScrutinizer2 | fredrin: /dev/mmcblk0 depends on your linux-PC and cardreader. Make sure it's no partition but the whole physical device (incl MBR) |
| 19:42.33 | fredrin | it's mmcblok0 |
| 19:42.38 | fredrin | mmcblk0 |
| 19:43.05 | fredrin | just removed everything with fdisk |
| 19:43.11 | fredrin | and synced it |
| 19:43.41 | DocScrutinizer2 | if you remove and re-insert the uSD, it should find a 8MB VFAT and a rather standard ext2 partition on the card |
| 19:44.04 | fredrin | mmmkay |
| 19:45.15 | DocScrutinizer2 | if your system hasn't messed up the filesystem right now ;) you should just need to boot from this card on FR |
| 19:46.09 | DocScrutinizer2 | (it should find) that's *after* dd ! |
| 19:46.26 | fredrin | DocScrutinizer2: does it work with Qi? |
| 19:46.40 | DocScrutinizer2 | nope, but with NOR usually |
| 19:46.49 | fredrin | mmmkay |
| 19:46.52 | fredrin | dd'ing now |
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| 19:47.49 | DocScrutinizer2 | I recommend *not* to reinsert the card after dd and sync. Odds are good to mess the filesystem accidentally |
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| 19:48.29 | DocScrutinizer2 | you can do this if the card fails to boot, to see what went wrong |
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| 19:51.05 | fredrin | ok |
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| 19:53.11 | fredrin | gah, it autobooted into flash when i put the battery in |
| 19:53.24 | DocScrutinizer2 | lol |
| 19:53.38 | DocScrutinizer2 | another unsolved miracle of FR-HW :-/ |
| 19:53.42 | fredrin | i hope shr-testing don't mess with the uSD card |
| 19:54.16 | DocScrutinizer2 | you'll notice in a minute ;) |
| 19:55.29 | lenin_ | plx help I still had problem with connection |
| 19:55.35 | fredrin | ok, bootring from uSD now |
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| 19:55.56 | ChristW | Is there a way to fsck and/or format the SD card inside the FR? |
| 19:56.26 | fredrin | ChristW: fdisk is there |
| 19:57.07 | fredrin | blue flashing is going on now :) |
| 19:57.09 | fredrin | looks good |
| 19:57.13 | DocScrutinizer2 | fredrin: yup |
| 19:57.32 | DocScrutinizer2 | have a cup of coffee, or a cig |
| 19:58.05 | fredrin | i'll do both |
| 19:58.16 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r441543bde48a 10/libfsoframework/ (6 files in 3 dirs): build: check for dbus as well, but seperately |
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| 20:02.04 | DocScrutinizer2 | time for green |
| 20:02.24 | fredrin | yeah, it's green |
| 20:02.28 | fredrin | partytime? |
| 20:02.32 | DocScrutinizer2 | yup |
| 20:02.48 | fredrin | Sweet |
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| 20:10.11 | johnsu01 | hm, I'm getting timeouts trying to retrieve the messagebook now |
| 20:12.29 | DocScrutinizer2 | now? |
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| 20:12.40 | johnsu01 | yes, as in, was working before but now is not |
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| 20:12.55 | DocScrutinizer2 | before what? |
| 20:13.24 | johnsu01 | before a day ago, during which time there was a dist-upgrade and also accumulation of more sms |
| 20:13.42 | DocScrutinizer2 | hmm |
| 20:13.58 | DocScrutinizer2 | which gsm-FW? |
| 20:14.06 | DocScrutinizer2 | which distro? |
| 20:14.13 | johnsu01 | debian, but I haven't checked the gsm fw version |
| 20:14.29 | DocScrutinizer2 | ahh, so no clue. |
| 20:14.32 | DocScrutinizer2 | sorry |
| 20:15.01 | DocScrutinizer2 | there's some issue with old SHR and MOKO11. Doesn't apply obviously |
| 20:15.08 | johnsu01 | I can display individual messages |
| 20:15.57 | johnsu01 | well, at least I was able to display message 1, trying to display message 30 is hanging now |
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| 20:16.10 | DocScrutinizer2 | well, maybe you *should* try updating to MOKO11. It fixes buffer overflows when downloading large chunks of data from modem |
| 20:16.35 | johnsu01 | yeah, it's on my list to upgrade the firmware, guess this might be a reason to do it |
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| 20:22.18 | johnsu01 | DocScrutinizer2: Ah, it seems to be an issue with the sim being full.. |
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| 20:28.44 | johnsu01 | proceeds with flashing the firmware anyway |
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| 20:33.25 | amarsh04 | does anyone remember if anyone has run sugar on the freerunner or neo1973? |
| 20:34.15 | Zorkman | anybody using bluez4 and can pair devices? |
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| 20:36.51 | johnsu01 | Zorkman: yes |
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| 20:36.59 | johnsu01 | Zorkman: on debian with bluez built from source |
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| 20:37.24 | Zorkman | do you use simple-passkey? |
| 20:37.30 | Zorkman | because on shr it isn't included |
| 20:37.37 | johnsu01 | no, I use the bluetooth-gnome stuff |
| 20:38.07 | Zorkman | :( |
| 20:41.08 | johnsu01 | hm, what ip should the fso-console image have? I'm not able to ssh into it at 192.168.0.202 |
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| 20:44.13 | johnsu01 | nm, guess I just need the netmask |
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| 20:47.39 | DocScrutinizer2 | yup |
| 20:47.46 | johnsu01 | which firmware file do I want here? |
| 20:47.56 | johnsu01 | the wiki instructions have moko10.m0 |
| 20:48.10 | johnsu01 | but there is also one on the server called calypso-moko-latest.m0 |
| 20:48.29 | DocScrutinizer2 | I suggest using the tar.gz |
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| 20:48.50 | DocScrutinizer2 | in moko11 folder |
| 20:49.13 | DocScrutinizer2 | and look there: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image |
| 20:49.54 | johnsu01 | hm interesting |
| 20:50.03 | johnsu01 | so did I not need to install this fso-console image after all? |
| 20:53.24 | fredrin | humm, GSM is not working with and old version of shr |
| 20:54.07 | Zorkman | johnsu01, : how do you play audio with bluetooth? |
| 20:54.17 | Zorkman | i use mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth -shuffle /media/card/mp3/*; but then i get an error |
| 20:54.19 | johnsu01 | Zorkman: I don't yet :) |
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| 20:54.26 | johnsu01 | Zorkman: I have tried some but also get errors, or no sound |
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| 20:56.35 | Zorkman | too bad :( worked perfectly on 3.33 |
| 20:57.51 | von_fritz | Zorkman pair wit simple-agent from bluez4 source test/folder look http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A2DP ;) |
| 20:58.00 | Zorkman | von_fritz, i have paired it |
| 20:58.07 | Zorkman | the bluetooth device recognizes it and it works |
| 20:58.12 | Zorkman | but playing sound doesn't work |
| 20:58.27 | Zorkman | i use mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth -shuffle /media/card/mp3/* |
| 20:58.33 | Zorkman | but it can't play any sound |
| 20:58.36 | Zorkman | i get errors like: |
| 20:58.48 | Zorkman | [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm.c:2106:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_bluetooth.so |
| 20:58.49 | Zorkman | [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: No such file or directory |
| 20:58.49 | Zorkman | Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound. |
| 20:58.49 | Zorkman | Audio: no sound |
| 20:58.49 | Zorkman | Video: no video |
| 20:58.55 | Zorkman | did it work for you von_fritz ? |
| 20:59.09 | von_fritz | yes |
| 20:59.17 | DocScrutinizer2 | fredrin: [2009-03-03 21:15:01] <DocScrutinizer2> there's some issue with old SHR and MOKO11. Doesn't apply obviously |
| 20:59.31 | Zorkman | von_fritz, how do you play audio files then? |
| 21:00.17 | fredrin | trying good old om2008.12 |
| 21:00.59 | von_fritz | Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_bluetooth.so ?? have you installed libasound-module-bluez - 4.30-r0 |
| 21:00.59 | von_fritz | ? |
| 21:02.05 | Zorkman | nope, i just saw i don't have it :) |
| 21:02.12 | johnsu01 | DocScrutinizer2: Well, I think the flashing went okay.. cross your fingers for me :) |
| 21:02.46 | DocScrutinizer2 | fredrin: you can downgrade to MOKO10 all times, as simple as upgrading to MOKO11 |
| 21:03.11 | Zorkman | thanks von_fritz , i'm such an idiot :) |
| 21:03.21 | DocScrutinizer2 | fredrin: [2009-03-03 21:53:23] <fredrin> humm, GSM is not working with and old version of shr |
| 21:03.26 | von_fritz | nope :) |
| 21:17.15 | johnsu01 | Well, the upgrade seems to have worked but is not affecting the messagebook timeout problem |
| 21:19.15 | fredrin | johnsu01: what distro are you using? |
| 21:19.24 | johnsu01 | fredrin: debian |
| 21:19.42 | slaxxin | gsm has worked for me on all in the past 3 weeks in shr |
| 21:20.02 | fredrin | slaxxin: with new gms firmware? |
| 21:20.04 | fredrin | gsm |
| 21:20.13 | slaxxin | nope factory |
| 21:20.57 | slaxxin | i ordered this phone in the first few days it was for sale |
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| 21:21.35 | johnsu01 | actually it seems to be a matter of just lengthening the timeout values |
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| 21:28.11 | lenin_ | guy where is delete on keyboard? |
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| 21:28.49 | Tig| | drag your finger from right to left |
| 21:28.53 | Tig| | over the keyboard |
| 21:30.14 | lenin_ | ok |
| 21:30.37 | lenin_ | and how to make enter visible |
| 21:30.56 | fredrin | puh, i can make calls |
| 21:31.00 | lenin_ | :P |
| 21:31.09 | johnsu01 | it's odd, it's timing out while displaying particular messages |
| 21:31.21 | lenin_ | strange I see enter when I type text |
| 21:31.24 | fredrin | but the gsm icone in Illume don't show anything about the signal strenght |
| 21:31.25 | johnsu01 | I was able to look at sms with index 15 fine but trying to view 16 times out |
| 21:31.26 | lenin_ | I do not see it |
| 21:31.39 | lenin_ | strange keyboard |
| 21:32.09 | fredrin | how do i check the gsm firmware? |
| 21:34.01 | lenin_ | yeah |
| 21:34.05 | lenin_ | I typed CODE PIN!!!! |
| 21:34.16 | lenin_ | HALLELUYAH |
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| 21:38.50 | lenin_ | what is the problem the screen comes black very fast |
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| 21:43.09 | lenin_ | lol my phone died |
| 21:44.00 | fredrin | lenin_: you should flash u-boot so you can wake your phone up from the dead with an usb cable |
| 21:44.22 | lenin_ | but it was working |
| 21:44.40 | lenin_ | and when I wanna to see contacts |
| 21:44.44 | lenin_ | he died |
| 21:45.03 | fredrin | that's life |
| 21:45.15 | lenin_ | xD |
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| 21:45.26 | lenin_ | do not tell that I had broken something |
| 21:46.26 | lenin_ | it is as battery dead |
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| 21:48.47 | fredrin | lenin_: it's hard to break the phone |
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| 21:49.35 | fredrin | bricking the gsm firmware should be the easiest way to do it :D |
| 21:49.59 | lenin_ | why it is so hard to open |
| 21:50.00 | lenin_ | ? |
| 21:50.06 | DocScrutinizer2 | nonsense |
| 21:50.38 | DocScrutinizer2 | no way to brick gsm-fw actually |
| 21:50.38 | fredrin | DocScrutinizer2: :) What's the esiest way to brick the FR? not that I would do it |
| 21:50.48 | fredrin | no? |
| 21:50.51 | DocScrutinizer2 | microwave ofen |
| 21:50.56 | fredrin | lol |
| 21:51.29 | fredrin | what's worse case with gsm fw? |
| 21:51.29 | DocScrutinizer2 | or use a cheap USB-car-charger |
| 21:51.41 | DocScrutinizer2 | killing calibration |
| 21:51.50 | amarsh04 | don't laugh, one technician did that to his work-provided gsm handset and promptly killed it with subsequent explaining to do |
| 21:52.05 | amarsh04 | microwaving the handset, that is |
| 21:52.23 | fredrin | how did he explain it? lol |
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| 21:52.43 | amarsh04 | he didn't he was intoxicated at the time |
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| 21:52.49 | fredrin | hahaah |
| 21:53.05 | lenin_ | lol |
| 21:53.08 | lenin_ | I can not open it |
| 21:53.12 | DocScrutinizer2 | or even worse probably, in the first instance: killing IMEI |
| 21:53.41 | amarsh04 | meanwhile, one of the other technicians could fix simply smashed gsm handsets by replacing good bits from dead handsets |
| 21:53.47 | fredrin | DocScrutinizer2: how does that work? killing IMEI |
| 21:54.53 | DocScrutinizer2 | though a killed IMEI might be restored by OM-engineers remotely. killed calib wn't hurt as much as missing IMEI, but can't be restored at all (except by going thru fab calib process again) |
| 21:55.13 | DocScrutinizer2 | lol, I don't think you want to know |
| 21:55.47 | fredrin | so OM-engineers know black magic |
| 21:55.48 | DocScrutinizer2 | should suffice I tell you you won't achieve to do that by accident |
| 21:55.58 | lenin_ | how to open neo |
| 21:55.59 | lenin_ | ? |
| 21:55.59 | fredrin | :) |
| 21:55.59 | DocScrutinizer2 | sure we do ;-) |
| 21:56.12 | DocScrutinizer2 | remove two screws |
| 21:56.26 | DocScrutinizer2 | use thumbnail to lift lid |
| 21:56.44 | azaghal | lenin_: Do you have a guitar pick? |
| 21:56.59 | DocScrutinizer2 | start near aux and slide all the way down to lanyard hole and back up again |
| 21:57.12 | fredrin | lenin_: are you going to pick apart you birthday present already, lol |
| 21:57.29 | lenin_ | ;p |
| 21:57.43 | DocScrutinizer2 | fredrin: maybe he wants to attach a debubo |
| 21:57.52 | azaghal | lenin_: Do you see the notch on the top of Neo? |
| 21:58.13 | lenin_ | yeah |
| 21:58.26 | lenin_ | but I can not open |
| 21:58.28 | azaghal | Ok, you need to put you nail in it, then push and pull. |
| 21:58.35 | azaghal | It's a bit hard the first few times. |
| 21:58.43 | azaghal | (and painful for your finger :) |
| 21:59.00 | azaghal | That's why I suggested guitar pick ;) |
| 21:59.03 | DocScrutinizer2 | c'mon that's for opening the battery lid. That's not opening FR |
| 21:59.20 | lenin_ | yeah |
| 21:59.23 | lenin_ | but FR |
| 21:59.26 | lenin_ | dead |
| 21:59.41 | lenin_ | I connect it to electricity |
| 21:59.41 | azaghal | DocScrutinizer2: What? You'd use an axe? ;) |
| 21:59.49 | lenin_ | and it doeasn't work |
| 22:00.05 | lenin_ | maybe I need retake battery from inside |
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| 22:00.28 | fredrin | if your battery is dead, you need to use another battery to boot |
| 22:00.30 | DocScrutinizer2 | so once you inserted battery, didn't you? |
| 22:00.33 | fredrin | since you have an old u-boot |
| 22:00.45 | azaghal | If it worked a moment ago, you could wait just a little bit for battery to "freshen up" |
| 22:01.00 | lenin_ | aa |
| 22:01.09 | lenin_ | you mean to wait until |
| 22:01.16 | lenin_ | he boot automaticaly |
| 22:01.17 | lenin_ | ? |
| 22:01.26 | azaghal | Erm, no. |
| 22:01.32 | DocScrutinizer2 | connect to wallcharger |
| 22:01.38 | lenin_ | y |
| 22:01.44 | lenin_ | and wait |
| 22:01.56 | azaghal | sighs |
| 22:02.14 | DocScrutinizer2 | duh, still an A5 |
| 22:02.16 | azaghal | They really should've put the whole warning in the box. |
| 22:02.26 | azaghal | I had this fun too :) |
| 22:02.52 | lenin_ | co I need connect to wallcharger and wait |
| 22:02.52 | lenin_ | ? |
| 22:03.00 | azaghal | Erm... |
| 22:03.02 | azaghal | The thing is. |
| 22:03.19 | azaghal | You wait a bit so the battery could hopefully come to its senses a bit. |
| 22:03.29 | azaghal | You connect the phone to wallcharger. |
| 22:03.40 | DocScrutinizer2 | if it doesn't boot, it probably doesn't charge. If it doesn't charge it never will boot |
| 22:03.45 | azaghal | Then you power it on and pray that it makes it to a stage where it starts charging. |
| 22:04.03 | azaghal | Well, in your case you don't pray ;) |
| 22:07.18 | DocScrutinizer2 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Battery#Make_sure_your_battery_never_discharges_completely. |
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| 22:08.18 | lenin_ | shit |
| 22:08.24 | lenin_ | so what now |
| 22:08.30 | lenin_ | I will never see my phone |
| 22:08.34 | fredrin | do you have a Nokia battery? |
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| 22:08.42 | lenin_ | maybe |
| 22:08.46 | lenin_ | but I can not open it |
| 22:08.48 | lenin_ | also |
| 22:09.32 | fredrin | lenin_: yes you can |
| 22:09.45 | fredrin | at the top of the phone you can take of the back |
| 22:12.10 | azaghal | lenin_: There's even a howto for opening it (on wiki, I think :) |
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| 22:12.52 | azaghal | lenin_: First of all, grab a towel, with words "Don't panic" written on it :) |
| 22:13.49 | azaghal | lenin_: Taking off the cover is a bit tricky the first time you do it, but it can be done :) |
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| 22:14.53 | azaghal | lenin_: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Installing_the_Micro-SD_card.2C_the_SIM_card.2C_and_the_Battery (take a look at the two pics) |
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| 22:15.25 | azaghal | Does anyone else get small electro-shocsk from the damn GSM antenna connector? |
| 22:15.32 | azaghal | *GPS |
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| 22:17.18 | lenin_ | yeah |
| 22:17.24 | lenin_ | I opend it |
| 22:17.26 | lenin_ | what now |
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| 22:18.17 | lenin_ | to do with battery |
| 22:18.18 | lenin_ | ? |
| 22:18.33 | azaghal | Well, I guess you should try replacing it temporarily with Nokia's battery. |
| 22:18.42 | azaghal | But I never did that. |
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| 22:19.03 | lenin_ | but this old battery |
| 22:19.03 | lenin_ | ? |
| 22:19.09 | azaghal | It's still good. |
| 22:19.09 | lenin_ | how can I charge it |
| 22:19.09 | lenin_ | ? |
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| 22:19.45 | azaghal | I don't want to guess what's the procedure now, someone else who did it might be sure. |
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| 22:20.03 | azaghal | lenin_: Try searching the wiki page, though, there's gotta be someone who described the process. |
| 22:20.12 | azaghal | (I'm also unsure if any battery would do) |
| 22:20.50 | khorben | does anyone know what "resolution: community" means for openmoko's software bugs? |
| 22:21.49 | azaghal | lenin_: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Can.27t_boot_with_discharged_or_missing_battery |
| 22:22.52 | billk | Is the nokia battery a bl4c or bl5c? |
| 22:23.00 | mmp | khorben: sounds like RESOLVED WONTFIX, but with external patches being accepted... |
| 22:23.12 | lenin_ | shit |
| 22:23.13 | lenin_ | so |
| 22:23.15 | lenin_ | what now |
| 22:23.25 | lenin_ | I never charge my battery |
| 22:23.33 | azaghal | Arrrgh |
| 22:23.49 | azaghal | lenin_: Read the wiki answer I pointed you to :) |
| 22:24.02 | azaghal | It has several workarounds ;) |
| 22:24.56 | lenin_ | i do not see there some helps |
| 22:25.43 | azaghal | lenin_: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Can.27t_boot_with_discharged_or_missing_battery - workaround 5 and 3 |
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| 22:27.32 | khorben | mmp: according to svnweb my patch wasn't applied but closed as "community" :( |
| 22:27.52 | mmp | khorben: ok, so my assumption is probably wrong :-/ |
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| 22:28.35 | khorben | mmp: nevermind, it's not that important; thanks anyway :) |
| 22:29.22 | lenin_ | guys |
| 22:29.24 | lenin_ | it is working |
| 22:29.28 | fredrin | party |
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| 22:30.10 | lenin_ | but what is the problem |
| 22:30.16 | lenin_ | that screen goes black |
| 22:30.21 | lenin_ | and I can not wake up it |
| 22:30.50 | lenin_ | strange |
| 22:31.17 | fredrin | click on the powerbutton |
| 22:31.23 | fredrin | if the phone goes into suspend |
| 22:31.47 | lenin_ | but a little |
| 22:31.48 | lenin_ | click |
| 22:32.22 | lenin_ | ok |
| 22:32.23 | lenin_ | I got it |
| 22:32.49 | lenin_ | it is working |
| 22:32.57 | lenin_ | now I need connect to internet |
| 22:35.44 | fredrin | lenin_: you can ssh into the phone |
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| 22:36.00 | fredrin | if you're using om2008.12 you need to turn off suspend in the settings menu first |
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| 22:37.41 | azaghal | lenin_: Actually... You need to read as much docs on the wiki as possible, starting with the "Getting Started" guide ;) |
| 22:37.48 | lenin_ | are yee cuz usb0 |
| 22:37.53 | lenin_ | is unvisible |
| 22:38.18 | DocScrutinizer2 | lenin_: I'd charge my battery if I were you ;-) |
| 22:39.03 | lenin_ | ok |
| 22:39.09 | lenin_ | i try ssh |
| 22:39.15 | DocScrutinizer2 | billk: BL5C seems to be *identical* to GTA01-bat |
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| 22:41.03 | DocScrutinizer2 | (except the color ;) |
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| 22:41.17 | lenin_ | AAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 22:41.28 | lenin_ | guys I can not use ssh |
| 22:41.28 | lenin_ | see this |
| 22:41.30 | lenin_ | IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! |
| 22:41.35 | lenin_ | omg |
| 22:41.37 | lenin_ | hackers |
| 22:41.46 | DocScrutinizer2 | lol |
| 22:42.04 | lenin_ | yeah it is interesting see |
| 22:42.08 | lenin_ | all plx |
| 22:42.09 | lenin_ | IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! |
| 22:42.09 | lenin_ | Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! |
| 22:42.09 | lenin_ | It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed. |
| 22:42.09 | lenin_ | The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is |
| 22:42.09 | lenin_ | 0c:2d:5b:78:dc:48:96:21:ae:98:f8:c4:2c:4a:19:14. |
| 22:42.10 | lenin_ | Please contact your system administrator. |
| 22:42.12 | lenin_ | Add correct host key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message. |
| 22:42.14 | lenin_ | Offending key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:1 |
| 22:42.16 | lenin_ | RSA host key for 192.168.0.202 has changed and you have requested strict checking. |
| 22:42.18 | lenin_ | Host key verification failed. |
| 22:42.34 | DocScrutinizer2 | use this line: |
| 22:42.37 | DocScrutinizer2 | ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null root@192.168.0.202 |
| 22:43.33 | lenin_ | thnks |
| 22:43.33 | lenin_ | hackers are on my phone |
| 22:43.33 | DocScrutinizer2 | np |
| 22:44.06 | lenin_ | I need to edit resolv.conf |
| 22:44.12 | lenin_ | but I have not nano |
| 22:44.15 | lenin_ | what now? |
| 22:44.25 | lenin_ | I had bad there nameservers |
| 22:44.43 | DocScrutinizer2 | I'm using a script like that I do a `sudo ssh-neo`: |
| 22:44.46 | DocScrutinizer2 | #!/bin/sh |
| 22:44.48 | DocScrutinizer2 | /sbin/ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 22:44.49 | DocScrutinizer2 | /sbin/route add -host 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0 |
| 22:44.50 | DocScrutinizer2 | ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null root@192.168.0.202 |
| 22:45.31 | DocScrutinizer2 | duh, anybody else got a line twice? |
| 22:46.24 | lenin_ | humm |
| 22:46.31 | lenin_ | i do not understand |
| 22:47.14 | johnsu01 | yeah.. how do I debug this? RetrieveMessage is timing out, even with an outrageously long timeout value |
| 22:47.37 | johnsu01 | most recently it triggered DBUS_MESSAGE_TYPE_ERROR 126, but I think I've gotten other error messages on other tries |
| 22:47.39 | DocScrutinizer2 | which gs-FW? |
| 22:47.53 | johnsu01 | 11 beta |
| 22:48.00 | DocScrutinizer2 | hmm |
| 22:48.09 | DocScrutinizer2 | SHR? |
| 22:48.15 | johnsu01 | no, debian w/fso |
| 22:48.23 | johnsu01 | and andy-tracking kernel |
| 22:48.48 | DocScrutinizer2 | dunno, ask alphaone or shoragan, or mickeyl |
| 22:48.50 | johnsu01 | sometimes messages are retrieved and sometimes they aren't |
| 22:49.35 | lenin_ | how to edit resolv.conf |
| 22:49.41 | lenin_ | and open console also |
| 22:50.00 | fredrin | lenin_: what does resolv.conf say now |
| 22:50.20 | DocScrutinizer2 | lenin_: Konqueror? KDE? |
| 22:50.30 | lenin_ | nameserver 208.67.222.222 |
| 22:50.30 | lenin_ | nameserver 208.67.220.220 |
| 22:50.36 | lenin_ | bad serwevers DNS |
| 22:50.39 | fredrin | that looks better |
| 22:50.41 | DocScrutinizer2 | that's fine |
| 22:51.04 | lenin_ | but I want to change it |
| 22:51.13 | DocScrutinizer2 | lenin_: Konqueror? KDE? |
| 22:51.18 | lenin_ | idk |
| 22:51.25 | fredrin | lenin_: opkg install nano |
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| 22:52.37 | badcloud | hey all |
| 22:52.49 | badcloud | has anyone reached a point where u-boot itself won't load? |
| 22:53.13 | badcloud | qi is the only thing that works now for me |
| 22:53.14 | DocScrutinizer2 | sure |
| 22:53.22 | badcloud | and it still won't provide gsm |
| 22:53.38 | badcloud | did you need a debug board to fix that, Doc? |
| 22:53.49 | DocScrutinizer2 | no, we have NOR |
| 22:54.20 | DocScrutinizer2 | NOR flashes NAND |
| 22:54.42 | badcloud | how do I issue that command? |
| 22:54.49 | DocScrutinizer2 | NAND boots U-Boot and U-Boot loads kernel |
| 22:55.15 | DocScrutinizer2 | hold AUX, press power |
| 22:55.31 | DocScrutinizer2 | dfu-util new NAND U-Boot |
| 22:55.36 | lenin_ | Collected errors: |
| 22:55.36 | lenin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.41 | lenin_ | how remove lock |
| 22:57.15 | badcloud | 'dfu-util new NAND U-Boot' is the full command??? |
| 22:57.31 | badcloud | or do I have to specify the u-boot bin file location |
| 22:57.39 | lenin_ | /usr/lib/opkg/lock |
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| 22:59.17 | lenin_ | oO |
| 22:59.26 | lenin_ | opkg update |
| 22:59.27 | lenin_ | Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.gz |
| 22:59.27 | lenin_ | Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.sig |
| 22:59.27 | lenin_ | Signature check failed |
| 23:00.12 | lenin_ | opkg install nano |
| 23:00.12 | lenin_ | An error ocurred, return value: 2. |
| 23:00.15 | lenin_ | errors |
| 23:00.20 | lenin_ | uhh |
| 23:00.26 | lenin_ | I go to sleep |
| 23:00.31 | lenin_ | lets try tommorow |
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| 23:50.27 | bbb8 | hey |
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