| 00:00.11 | mattl | i think gprs can be done on FDOM, but not in any kind of GUI way. |
| 00:00.20 | Toaster` | I haven't heard of any gui way to do gprs |
| 00:00.34 | mattl | Toaster`: Qtopia has it |
| 00:00.55 | slaxxin | people start half assed doing things an stuf doesnt get fixed because the pay is too low so to hell with it i will fix it part way |
| 00:01.17 | Toaster` | mattl: ahh, I've never used Qtopia, other then what is implemented on 2008 |
| 00:01.29 | mattl | its okay. very limited though |
| 00:02.53 | raster | slaxxin: and laziness causes a lot of peole to complain and moan and never lift a finger to do anything - instead go watch somethng on tv. |
| 00:04.38 | slaxxin | i dont use a tv |
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| 00:04.51 | techiem2-r | my comp is my tv |
| 00:04.53 | techiem2-r | :) |
| 00:06.03 | lpotter | well... my tv is my comp :) |
| 00:06.11 | lpotter | jk |
| 00:06.49 | techiem2-r | gotta pick up a digital tuner one of these days |
| 00:06.51 | techiem2-r | *shrug* |
| 00:06.57 | lpotter | duo core in my Sanyo |
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| 00:14.12 | lpotter | actually, I use a webpal to compile OM |
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| 00:18.25 | Robot101 | lpotter: hey, now QTE has a Telepathy backend for IM/Presence, are there any plans to implement it for QTelephony too so you can do audio/video calls through the Telepathy backends? |
| 00:19.00 | thesnark | If I run OpenMoko in QEMU, will I be able to surf the net and/or simulate connections to other phones? |
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| 00:22.30 | lpotter | Robot101: i have investigated telepathy-sofiasip |
| 00:22.41 | raster | slaxxin: still slacking though :) |
| 00:23.07 | Robot101 | we're working on better qt4 bindings at the moment, convenience APIs for using telepathy |
| 00:23.22 | slaxxin | sorry if i seem a little rough around the edges |
| 00:23.34 | Robot101 | you could probably slim quite a lot of code out of telepathy_agent when they're done |
| 00:24.01 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:24.53 | slaxxin | proly why i chose slackware |
| 00:25.31 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 00:25.47 | techiem2-r | gotta toss slack in a vm or on a spare box one of these days... |
| 00:25.52 | techiem2-r | haven't played with it in ages |
| 00:27.08 | raster | slaxxin: i'm a pragmatist. basically u've got to entice me to do something in favor of somethnig else |
| 00:27.18 | raster | as such money tends to be a good enticement often |
| 00:27.23 | slaxxin | why not just put it on a machine? |
| 00:27.26 | raster | when all things else are equal |
| 00:27.42 | techiem2-r | gotta find a spare to try on |
| 00:27.43 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 00:28.12 | techiem2-r | first I ever installed was slack... |
| 00:28.53 | raster | same |
| 00:28.56 | raster | many years ago |
| 00:28.57 | lpotter | Robot101: ya, we might look into that |
| 00:29.05 | techiem2-r | like...94 or so I think... |
| 00:29.12 | techiem2-r | dozens of floppy disks... |
| 00:29.13 | techiem2-r | lol |
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| 00:30.07 | Robot101 | lpotter: well, feel free to ping me here, #telepathy, or drop me a mail or whatever if you need any help. we're pretty excited to see that you guys are using telepathy. |
| 00:30.20 | lpotter | Robot101: you mean telepathy-qt4 right? |
| 00:30.23 | Robot101 | lpotter: right |
| 00:30.31 | techiem2-r | is telepathy gonna make it into 2008.x? |
| 00:30.35 | lpotter | Robot101: already lurking there as ljp |
| 00:31.18 | lpotter | Robot101: I might have to convince some people to use telepathy-qt4, among them legal |
| 00:33.51 | Robot101 | lpotter: hrm, is there a particular concern there? it's LGPL v2, and functionally extremely similar to tp-glib which has withstood Nokia's legal scrutineers |
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| 00:34.32 | lpotter | just a formality :) |
| 00:35.18 | Robot101 | of course, just wondering if there was a particular worry or just the usual procedures :) |
| 00:36.43 | lpotter | Nokia's usual procedures. New to trolltech^WQt Software |
| 00:37.13 | Robot101 | turn to page 20773 in your rule book, it's a simple 12-month process. |
| 00:37.14 | thesnark | Can I use an Free Runner with any GSM carrier? |
| 00:37.54 | thesnark | Also, does anybody in here rely on an openmoko phone for everyday use? |
| 00:38.07 | slaxxin | i try to |
| 00:38.15 | thesnark | try to? |
| 00:38.26 | lpotter | I try too also, except I reflash several times a daey |
| 00:38.26 | slaxxin | i need more batteries:) |
| 00:38.40 | thesnark | Ah, how often do your batteries run out? |
| 00:38.48 | slaxxin | 3 times a day |
| 00:38.59 | lpotter | without talking it seems to last about 3 days or so |
| 00:39.09 | slaxxin | dont have a car charger |
| 00:39.32 | slaxxin | qt extended gets better batt milage |
| 00:39.41 | techiem2-r | I use mine all the time..but I don't actually use it for calls very often |
| 00:39.42 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 00:39.55 | techiem2-r | but I usually have it wtih me |
| 00:40.06 | lpotter | thats battery kilometerage :) |
| 00:40.17 | lpotter | milage is so old skool |
| 00:40.22 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 00:40.28 | slaxxin | yea ..what potter said |
| 00:40.42 | slaxxin | im close to 50 |
| 00:41.39 | slaxxin | i remember the no calculators in school rule |
| 00:41.54 | thesnark | Ok, last question...can it play mp3s and mpg videos? |
| 00:41.56 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 00:42.10 | techiem2-r | now it's like.."welcome to kindergarten, here's your calculator" |
| 00:42.43 | thesnark | slaxxin I'm only 19 and I remember that also. Not so long ago! |
| 00:42.45 | slaxxin | yea an for the record deviding by anything but 10 or 100 will make your kids smarter |
| 00:43.31 | techiem2-r | and yes, you can play music |
| 00:43.41 | thesnark | + videos? |
| 00:43.47 | thesnark | y/n? |
| 00:43.49 | techiem2-r | supposedly |
| 00:43.51 | thesnark | ah |
| 00:43.54 | techiem2-r | if you encode them down right |
| 00:43.58 | techiem2-r | but there seems to be some issues |
| 00:43.58 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 00:43.59 | thesnark | theora or something? |
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| 00:44.20 | techiem2-r | I had one converted the other night and it played, but has some color distortion and such |
| 00:44.45 | lpotter | slaxxin: my 3 year old knows how to surf the net on a Mac :) |
| 00:44.45 | techiem2-r | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player |
| 00:45.19 | thesnark | lpotter ewwww I can't believe you'd expose your own child to a mac at the tender age of 3 |
| 00:45.46 | techiem2-r | lol |
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| 00:48.09 | thesnark | but srsly I heard moving screens are bad for young kids |
| 00:48.18 | thesnark | tv, computer, etc |
| 00:48.40 | thesnark | and cell phones |
| 00:48.43 | slaxxin | what about old kids? |
| 00:48.43 | thesnark | and everything modern |
| 00:49.03 | thesnark | well you see slaxxin, some kids are actually much older than others |
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| 00:49.40 | slaxxin | so when will we see the 2008.10? |
| 00:50.45 | thesnark | YES, GIVE US A DATE UNORGANIZED MASSSES |
| 00:50.59 | thesnark | blearrrrg |
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| 00:51.24 | slaxxin | well the month IS 1/3 gone |
| 00:53.43 | techiem2-r | hehe |
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| 00:55.36 | break_free | well I got about 11 hours of runtime with qt extended until the batteries ran out |
| 00:56.09 | techiem2-r | nice |
| 00:56.31 | break_free | didn't spend too much time talking though... |
| 00:56.36 | break_free | it was mostly in suspend all day long :) |
| 00:57.12 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 00:57.15 | techiem2-r | that's the idea |
| 00:57.17 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 01:01.02 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.43 | slaxxin | 1 battery right? |
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| 01:02.38 | slaxxin | might be that the battery we got with the freerunner is ,,,,, not to good |
| 01:02.58 | slaxxin | anybody use a different mfg. battery? |
| 01:03.19 | slaxxin | a nokia battery? |
| 01:03.58 | break_free | isn't it 1400mh? that's decent |
| 01:04.20 | break_free | oops, it's 1200mah |
| 01:04.36 | raster | the battert is fine |
| 01:04.44 | raster | the problem is that power saving isnt good |
| 01:04.47 | break_free | yeah |
| 01:04.51 | raster | tickless kernel will help |
| 01:05.00 | break_free | yeah, i'm guessing it'll be improved with time |
| 01:05.02 | raster | imho suspend is silly |
| 01:05.06 | lpotter | who needs a bettery when its plugged in all the time |
| 01:05.08 | raster | but zero-clock would be the right thnig |
| 01:05.13 | break_free | 1200mah should be plenty |
| 01:05.20 | raster | and more agressive power-down of peripherals |
| 01:05.28 | raster | and more knowledge of power saving in userspace |
| 01:05.34 | break_free | yeah |
| 01:05.35 | techiem2-r | mm |
| 01:05.40 | break_free | what is zero-clock? |
| 01:05.47 | raster | u dont suspend |
| 01:05.52 | raster | u simply set the cpu clock to 0 |
| 01:06.01 | raster | memory into self-refresha |
| 01:06.08 | raster | nd registers also int self-refresh |
| 01:06.20 | raster | u arent actually suspended as interrupts and everything keep going |
| 01:06.29 | raster | wakeup is very fast comapred to suspend/resume |
| 01:06.30 | break_free | interesting |
| 01:06.38 | raster | right now om is suspend/resuming |
| 01:06.40 | techiem2-r | how's that compare with battery life? |
| 01:06.40 | raster | same as your laptop |
| 01:06.43 | break_free | is that what most phones do |
| 01:06.53 | techiem2-r | ah |
| 01:06.57 | raster | the problem is - even though its light-years faster at resume and suspend than your laptop |
| 01:06.59 | slaxxin | is there a problem in implementing this? |
| 01:07.05 | raster | its still "Slow" in the scheme of things |
| 01:07.21 | raster | most phone devices dont suspend |
| 01:07.27 | raster | they simply go into an ultra low power mod |
| 01:07.31 | raster | eeg ultra-low clock |
| 01:07.35 | raster | eg 1 or 5 or 10mhz |
| 01:07.44 | raster | and with everything powered down they dont absolutely need |
| 01:07.50 | raster | on any "interesting event" |
| 01:07.55 | raster | like signals from gsm etc. |
| 01:07.58 | raster | they wake up ultra-fast |
| 01:07.59 | raster | do something |
| 01:08.01 | techiem2-r | ah |
| 01:08.04 | raster | wake up any devices needed to do that |
| 01:08.19 | raster | then go right bakc to their idling at the pub |
| 01:08.25 | raster | suspend is more severe |
| 01:08.34 | raster | they literally go into a deep sleep |
| 01:08.49 | raster | u have to wait for them to "wake up" when you poke them with a stick |
| 01:08.52 | raster | it does use less power |
| 01:08.55 | raster | but its mroe problematic |
| 01:08.57 | techiem2-r | ah |
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| 01:09.49 | break_free | if i can get my freerunner to last long enough to charge every other night that would be great |
| 01:09.59 | break_free | then it would be close to being my primary phone |
| 01:10.33 | techiem2-r | I'm not often gone long enough to need a charge |
| 01:10.44 | techiem2-r | at work I have my laptop all the time so I can just plug in |
| 01:10.45 | techiem2-r | hehe |
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| 01:11.56 | break_free | I guess I can say the same, but over the weekend I'm usually out and about and can't charge my phone in between |
| 01:12.39 | techiem2-r | ah |
| 01:13.09 | slaxxin | i bet 2 of my 3 batteries will crap out before thr tickless kernel is released to the public |
| 01:13.26 | slaxxin | Houston |
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| 02:44.48 | slaxxin | mwester does the 10022039 rootfs require the patch at qtopia? |
| 02:46.49 | Dave | raster 4 prez |
| 02:47.05 | prjktdtnt | also votes raster 4 prez |
| 02:47.33 | prjktdtnt | wait, who's the VP for this campaign? |
| 02:48.41 | aliases123 | prjktdtnt: you are. |
| 02:49.13 | prjktdtnt | AHHH NO! |
| 02:49.21 | mwester | slaxxin: It requires an updated kernel and kernel modules; does not require any other changes to the rootfs. |
| 02:49.26 | prjktdtnt | runs |
| 02:50.50 | prjktdtnt | aliases123: what about mwester for VP? |
| 02:51.47 | prjktdtnt | Raster - Mwester '08 |
| 02:52.12 | prjktdtnt | "a vote for freedom" |
| 02:53.16 | aliases123 | oh pres of ? |
| 02:53.41 | prjktdtnt | aliases123: beats me, dave started it |
| 02:55.06 | aliases123 | votes for mwester |
| 02:56.59 | techiem2-r | President of Open Source Development? |
| 02:57.18 | aliases123 | i thought it was for new pres of openmoko inc :) |
| 02:57.27 | techiem2-r | that works too |
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| 03:06.12 | ljp | raster couldnt run for president, but he might be able to run for prime minister |
| 03:09.29 | DocScrutinizer | isn't prime minister by appointment of presi aka CEO? So I guess Raster won't (like to) become PM ;-) |
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| 03:10.02 | ljp | there is no president |
| 03:10.56 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, strange to see we got a VP then ;-/ |
| 03:11.22 | prjktdtnt | well if raster is runnin prez then someone would have to be VP |
| 03:11.40 | prjktdtnt | but as stated since he couldn't be prez then VP is pointless to have |
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| 03:12.56 | DocScrutinizer | don't tell that to Steve Mosher ;-) |
| 03:13.51 | rwhitby | votes for mwester for VP |
| 03:18.02 | ljp | DocScrutinizer: you must be thinking of a different country |
| 03:18.12 | ljp | we have no president :) |
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| 03:18.46 | DocScrutinizer | <aliases123> i thought it was for new pres of openmoko inc :) |
| 03:19.34 | DocScrutinizer | ljp: "we" = .au? |
| 03:19.48 | ljp | yur |
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| 03:21.10 | DocScrutinizer | so yes, that's what I now. Australia got no presi |
| 03:21.15 | DocScrutinizer | Know |
| 03:21.46 | ljp | and the PM is a ninny if he isn;t seen drinking beer |
| 03:21.57 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 03:22.17 | DocScrutinizer | and you got a bar with 50 kinds of beer from draft |
| 03:22.28 | ljp | true. one of the PM here held the world record for drinking beer |
| 03:22.55 | DocScrutinizer | damn, I really like to visit this bar |
| 03:23.45 | DocScrutinizer | though, maybe... either too crowded, or beer is old |
| 03:23.52 | ljp | called New Holland |
| 03:24.32 | DocScrutinizer | dn't remember, just know it was a hotel bar, Raster told me |
| 03:24.49 | DocScrutinizer | downtown Sydney |
| 03:25.59 | ljp | oh with the 50 drafts? |
| 03:26.02 | ljp | dunno |
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| 03:40.45 | slaxxin | u could have a dictator like slackware;) |
| 03:41.01 | rooly|away | hey, does the freerunner support openal? |
| 03:45.44 | raster | ljp: equilibrium. bottom of world square. 64 beers on tap actually |
| 03:45.44 | raster | :) |
| 03:46.26 | ljp | and whats the bar tenders name who works on thursday nights? |
| 03:48.31 | slaxxin | comicazy |
| 03:49.22 | slaxxin | i guess the qtx image has changed from the release image |
| 03:50.06 | slaxxin | since thcity can now be applied |
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| 03:51.32 | slaxxin | i keep getting these messeges with ...@ |
| 03:51.51 | slaxxin | with proly a rootkit or some shit |
| 03:52.35 | slaxxin | bluetooth on by default |
| 03:53.11 | slaxxin | very cool input method:) |
| 03:54.25 | slaxxin | 4 clicks to call???? |
| 03:55.50 | slaxxin | calls disconnect? |
| 03:56.30 | slaxxin | reeboot |
| 04:01.00 | slaxxin | so do i just scp me pics,maps,music folders to Documents? |
| 04:01.24 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r1ca6ee79dc32 10/ (ChangeLog framework/subsystems/odeviced/kernel26.py): odeviced: [PATCH] use /dev/fb0 ioctl based screen blanking (from Harald Welte) |
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| 05:00.17 | wildnux | why am i not being able to access the repositories? i am not being able to install any packages in my 2008.09 |
| 05:02.06 | ljp | conspiracy |
| 05:02.55 | wildnux | ljp: |
| 05:02.58 | wildnux | ?? |
| 05:03.31 | Rakshasa | check /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 05:04.12 | ljp | wildnux: just kiddin |
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| 05:04.15 | ljp | its friday |
| 05:04.29 | Rakshasa | No matter how many times I've configured the nameservers all download errors are invariably caused by incorrect /etc/resolv.conf |
| 05:04.54 | wildnux | Rakshasa: i am able to connect the wifi, i can ping "www.google.com" , i can use the location program to use gps which is downloading the images but i cannot install any packages |
| 05:05.52 | wildnux | Rakshasa: any suggestions? i have uploaded my laptop's /etc/resolv.conf but still nothing |
| 05:06.10 | wildnux | while i ssh and do opkg update, it says signature check failed, |
| 05:06.20 | Rakshasa | And you can ping/wget/whatever the package server (downloads.openmoko.org or whatever) from other machines in your network? |
| 05:07.04 | Rakshasa | Signature checks fails because there are no signatures on the server. (If youre talking 2008.x at least.) |
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| 05:08.06 | wildnux | Rakshasa: i just got my moko yesterday, it had 2007.x and i flashed it yesterday, to 2008.9 |
| 05:08.14 | wildnux | Rakshasa: what should i do? |
| 05:08.17 | slaxxin | so theres an public ip address in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 05:08.34 | wildnux | slaxxin: public ip address?? |
| 05:08.51 | slaxxin | dont start with a 192.168? |
| 05:09.00 | Rakshasa | Hmm. actually if opkg update works, shouldn't the package downloading work too? |
| 05:09.00 | mwester | wonders why on earth Om doesn't either enable signatures int the repos, or disable signature checking in opkg.... Sigh. |
| 05:09.56 | slaxxin | not good to use wireless to opkg upgrade |
| 05:11.41 | slaxxin | it seems that openmoko would atleast get that done |
| 05:11.52 | Rakshasa | Does anyone know if there is a way to make a bluetooth headset work the right way(tm) in 2008.9? |
| 05:12.27 | Rakshasa | So that it would be possible to answer calls with the button on the headset? |
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| 05:17.04 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * re7e8c8bdcb87 10/framework/subsystems/odeviced/kernel26.py: odeviced: refactor brightness handling |
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| 05:19.00 | rebelThor | hey guys, how do you unmount the sd, it keeps telling "device or resource busy" |
| 05:19.10 | rebelThor | i'm trying to partition it and then format it |
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| 05:54.36 | DocScrutinizer | Rakshasa: look at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/twinklephone/messages and search for bluetooth. I'd think there's been a posting on making button work, ~a year ago |
| 05:55.01 | Rakshasa | Ok, thanks. |
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| 06:22.57 | Dave | hrm |
| 06:23.00 | Dave | stupid power issues |
| 06:23.52 | DocScrutinizer | Rakshasa: .btscorc file? see: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/twinklephone/message/679 |
| 06:24.21 | Dave | hides |
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| 07:20.39 | gromez | i'm trying to chroot to NAND flash from Debian, i've mounted /proc and /dev, dns requests are ok but i could not wget or opkg update, any idea ? |
| 07:21.39 | gromez | well, i forgot to set $http_proxy |
| 07:23.06 | gromez | friday morning, it's hard |
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| 07:30.04 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:50.15 | edje2 | gromez: what is the output of route -n ? |
| 07:50.32 | edje2 | nevermind, i just read line 2 |
| 07:50.41 | gromez | :) |
| 07:50.54 | edje2 | i need more coffee ! |
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| 07:51.39 | gromez | but there were no updates on the unstable feed so, it still broken :p re-checking it later |
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| 07:56.42 | tuyp200 | Hi. I'm using the MokoMakefile to build and getting errors in the qtopia install part about sem_open() permission denied. Anyone had similar problems? |
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| 08:19.30 | methril | morning |
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| 08:26.00 | Rakshasa | Anyone know how I could answer the call from console on 2008.9. qcop? atinterface? Send commands to modem? |
| 08:26.25 | Rakshasa | And I want to bypass the Dialer although it is running. |
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| 09:00.09 | emilis_info | where do the FSO people hang out? |
| 09:00.48 | lindi- | emilis_info: email |
| 09:00.53 | emilis_info | ah, ok |
| 09:02.16 | XorA | here |
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| 09:18.52 | lpotter | there |
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| 09:29.04 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 09:39.30 | _Bill_ | lpotter: did you find anything about my issue with copying ~/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite over from 4.3 to 4.4 and after that never finishing a next boot? |
| 09:40.44 | _Bill_ | i see only qpe start in processlist and qpe taking all of cpu... but gui never shows up... i even let it calculate over a night on external power.. still nothing |
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| 09:55.00 | tuyp200 | oh, stupid me, forgot to mount /dev/shm. oops. |
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| 10:38.57 | Isajha | is there a suse repo for the openmoko toolchain? |
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| 10:45.36 | Rupert_ | Can anybody answer a quick question on repositorys in the FR: Looking at the wiki page on Repositories and in the instructions for adding Angstrom it says to add a line to base-feeds.conf I don't have that file I put the line in all-feed.conf but maybe I should have created base-feeds? |
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| 10:46.38 | XorA | Rupert_: just make an blah.conf file, opkg reads all *.conf files anyway |
| 10:47.05 | XorA | angstrom-feed.conf would be a good name :-) |
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| 10:50.55 | Rupert_ | XorA: The instructions on the wiki do include the creation of angstrom-feed.conf so I created that as well. Now I don't know if I need the base one at all. I wonder should that be removed from the wiki. One further question then if opkg reads all conf files that must be my problem. I'm doing all this to get gsm0710muxd as per the GPRS instructions on the wiki. They say don't install gsm0710mux from the 2008.08 repositary so how do I stop tha |
| 10:50.55 | Rupert_ | t one being installed over the angstrom one? |
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| 10:52.40 | XorA | if you wait until tomorrow the unstable feed in OM should have the same gsm0710mux as angstrom |
| 10:52.49 | XorA | in 10 mins Im pushing the merge |
| 10:53.45 | trickie|work | torindel: i have some questions about your gentoo stages for the freerunner, where is a good place to ask about them? #gentoo-cdevel? |
| 10:53.53 | Rupert_ | Deadly I obviously can't follow the instructions on the wiki when it comes to setting up the opkg confs :-( Thanks a million for that. |
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| 11:10.19 | trickie|work | torindel: never mind, found http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GentooQEMUBuildBox |
| 11:10.31 | trickie|work | torindel: was gonna ask you where you built your stages |
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| 11:12.16 | XorA | ok, anyone who doesnt want a flood, ignore CIA for the next 30 mins |
| 11:13.03 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03pb 07org.openmoko.dev * r2a589a90bac9 10/packages/curl/curl.inc: curl: make parameters configurable via CURL_FEATURES |
| 11:13.04 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03pb 07org.openmoko.dev * r3e0fab01a86e 10/packages/curl/curl.inc: merge of '8b788877676745843159ccb616b8159259af90f9' |
| 11:13.05 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03oe 07org.openmoko.dev * r57019d0c1554 10/site/avr32-common: merge of '7b32aa8708eff49950269f0ff77537df8a712616' |
| 11:13.05 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * ra6595bee171c 10/packages/linux/linux-2.6.25/at32stk1000/defconfig: linux 2.6.25: make powertop a bit happier on at32stk1000 |
| 11:13.08 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r15b158003d09 10/packages/linux/linux_2.6.25.bb: linux 2.6.25: bump PR for defconfig changes |
| 11:13.11 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r31e12362244c 10/site/avr32-common: site avr32: add gmutex size |
| 11:13.14 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03stefan 07org.openmoko.dev * rc7453c2611b7 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs.inc: Bump illume to get the recent fixes. Runs amok on FSO without. (Not a complete EFL_SRCREV bump as E did segfault on my test) |
| 11:13.18 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03woglinde2 07org.openmoko.dev * rbb38af457998 10/packages/nxproxy/nxproxy_3.2.0-1.bb: nxproxy: fix permissions |
| 11:13.21 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03woglinde2 07org.openmoko.dev * r1ca86f239262 10/packages/qtnx/ (6 files in 2 dirs): qtnx: import qtnx to openembedded |
| 11:13.30 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mwester 07org.openmoko.dev * r14cdd41eb991 10/packages/pam/libpam_1.0.2.bb: libpam: add flex as a dependency; handle empty .debug dir case (and clean up |
| 11:13.31 | dns53 | thanks for the warning |
| 11:13.33 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mwester 07org.openmoko.dev * r4012fe190e38 10/ (37 files in 23 dirs): merge of '79b90d4ef7df69035b001466908501f67f8aac76' |
| 11:13.36 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rffe94b71523d 10/packages/ (9 files in 3 dirs): neuros: bump SRCREVS for userspace, kernel and uboot |
| 11:13.39 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r6da6f06c31a3 10/packages/ffmpeg/ (ffmpeg_git.bb ffmpeg_svn.bb): ffmpeg: fix versioning, the -pre1 is wrongly versioned, so bump PE, spotted by Xora |
| 11:13.42 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rc82ae81f16c7 10/packages/base-passwd/ (8 files in 3 dirs): base-passwd: add 3.5.19, disabled by default |
| 11:13.45 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * ra882c35b7d97 10/packages/kexecboot/ (51 files in 19 dirs): linux-kexecboot: restructure it a bit to make it more generic. |
| 11:13.58 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03jeremy_laine 07org.openmoko.dev * rc3ce33cdd574 10/packages/gstreamer/ (gstreamer/po-makefile-fix.patch gstreamer_0.10.17.bb): gstreamer: fix call to mkinstalldirs |
| 11:14.01 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r22bb0ecb9521 10/packages/quake/ioquake3_svn.bb: ioquake3: add 1.32 |
| 11:14.04 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r285583442b34 10/packages/glib-2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): glib-2.0: update to 2.18.0 |
| 11:14.07 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r20dca5ec357a 10/packages/pango/ (3 files in 2 dirs): pango: add 1.20.5 |
| 11:14.10 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r7fef12eed751 10/packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.6.0-beta8.bb: asterisk 1.6beta: sanitize PV |
| 11:14.13 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03utx 07org.openmoko.dev * r60af573b1761 10/packages/ecj/ (ecj-initial_3.3.2.bb ecj-initial_3.3.bb ecj-initial_3.4.bb): Require unzip-native (needed for unpacking). |
| 11:14.24 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03woglinde2 07org.openmoko.dev * rb2798f0810f5 10/packages/qtnx/ (qtnx-qte_0.9.bb qtnx.inc qtnx_0.9.bb): qtnx: split up for qtx11 vs. qte/qtopia |
| 11:14.27 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r2b3b4c811011 10/packages/glib-2.0/glib-2.0-native_2.18.0.bb: glib-2.0-native: update to 2.18 |
| 11:14.30 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03oe 07org.openmoko.dev * rf7095f6e8326 10/packages/ (6 files in 2 dirs): merge of '3f551b06dbb61a62224fe6d9f3affb063932e0f1' |
| 11:14.35 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rde447d83f1c0 10/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: angstrom preferred versions: bump glib and pango versions |
| 11:14.38 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03oe 07org.openmoko.dev * r3b3b71ef3d8c 10/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: merge of '5a77ab41b3385a039d9e0696c7d69b01aad3ad92' |
| 11:14.41 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r108370eca76b 10/packages/gtk+/ (6 files in 2 dirs): gtk+ 2.14.1: add recipe for the latest stable release, removes most patches to get a new performance baseline |
| 11:14.52 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xora 07org.openmoko.dev * r2da9c320bb2f 10/packages/u-boot/u-boot_git.bb: u-boot_git.bb : fix typo |
| 11:14.55 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03pb 07org.openmoko.dev * rabb266431edf 10/packages/curl/ (curl_7.19.0.bb off_t_abi_fix.patch): curl: avoid off_t confusion caused by site file |
| 11:15.00 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r9232f38efe68 10/packages/quake/ (quake2/.mtn2git_empty quake2/quake2-arm.patch quake2_svn.bb): quake2: add quake2 from icculus.org |
| 11:15.03 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03utx 07org.openmoko.dev * rd62432581849 10/packages/intltool/intltool_0.40.3.bb: intltool: Fixed build root traces in binaries. |
| 11:15.06 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r88faa70c625a 10/packages/ (5 files in 3 dirs): ecore, libgpewidget: add more depends |
| 11:15.09 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r77eef51698e1 10/packages/ (4 files in 3 dirs): merge of '3f94d65dac6aa5231048ff3e534da903ee56b856' |
| 11:15.16 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rc59a776f3dc9 10/packages/quake/quake2_svn.bb: quake2 svn: fix install for non i386 hosts |
| 11:15.19 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03jeremy_laine 07org.openmoko.dev * rb68b4854ab43 10/packages/u-boot/ (2 files in 2 dirs): u-boot: add support for mpc8313e-rdb Vitesse switch |
| 11:15.28 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03utx 07org.openmoko.dev * rc8dadebbe4e1 10/packages/gammu/gammu_1.20.0.bb: gammu: Do not execute do_stage_append creating traces of build dir. |
| 11:15.31 | CIA-22 | (94 lines omitted) |
| 11:15.33 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * raa4fc67fdba6 10/packages/angstrom/angstrom-gpe-task-base.bb: angstrom-gpe-task-base: remove libgtkinput, it breaks pygtk apps |
| 11:15.36 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03oe 07org.openmoko.dev * rca67329e7fd6 10/classes/package.bbclass: merge of '5205c4bbe6c22164549099dae6ac17f506611c18' |
| 11:15.41 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r38a68dff978b 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): add python-pygobject 2.15.4 and prefer it |
| 11:15.44 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r425df565dee3 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): merge of '3d704269a4c9fd224a47e37d4d32b325354912cd' |
| 11:15.49 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r0c4ad63c1489 10/packages/zbedic/libbedic_1.1.bb: libbedic: fix build |
| 11:15.58 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03woglinde2 07org.openmoko.dev * r91d9fa947cd4 10/conf/distro/ (4 files in 2 dirs): uclibc: fix logic error for glib-2.0-native |
| 11:16.01 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03khem 07org.openmoko.dev * r76e54b52d2db 10/packages/gcc/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Fix the uclibc locale patch in gcc 4.3 for missing desctructor. |
| 11:16.04 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03khem 07org.openmoko.dev * r78707ed7a42d 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Get the latest changes for uclibc-nptl branch. Compilation fix needed when |
| 11:16.09 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03khem 07org.openmoko.dev * r985ba7294b92 10/ (11 files in 5 dirs): merge of 'ba9f12683fbdcb311491785e5974e59d2b9a8c86' |
| 11:16.12 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r5cc843321f59 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): rdesktop: unify, update lock down cvs${SRCDATE} |
| 11:16.17 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rb2322f422be6 10/packages/gtk+/ (gtk+.inc gtk+_2.14.1.bb): gtk+: always install private headers, gnome and maemo need them :( |
| 11:16.26 | *** join/#openmoko arzej (n=user@avr170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 11:16.26 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r27f421554bdf 10/packages/gnome/libgnomeui_2.23.90.bb: libgnomeui: add 2.23.90 |
| 11:16.29 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r9196a9e04879 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): merge of '20460ca5bc208d9dfe0693cc79f9684c01aef89d' |
| 11:16.32 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03thebohemian 07org.openmoko.dev * r6fca00e1d23f 10/packages/gob2/gob2_2.0.14.bb: gob2: Adjusted SRC_URI. |
| 11:16.37 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03thebohemian 07org.openmoko.dev * r1ec49ecab427 10/ (79 files in 27 dirs): merge of '7c54b67a8bd06b0acd3de3732a00f6e1728ab4cf' |
| 11:16.40 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03hrw 07org.openmoko.dev * rab17ddc011c0 10/conf/machine/x86.conf: x86: do not add 'x86' into list of package archs |
| 11:16.43 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r68bf7325fe97 10/packages/efl1/ (edje_svn.bb eet_svn.bb evas-native_svn.bb evas_svn.bb): edje|eet|evas: mention some ./configure options explicitly |
| 11:16.52 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03pb 07org.openmoko.dev * r7fde86da5a6f 10/conf/local.conf.sample: add another example |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03pb 07org.openmoko.dev * r63e19a54a3e0 10/packages/glib-2.0/glib.inc: glib-2.0: increase packaging granularity |
| 11:16.57 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * ra6c97b1d1a2e 10/packages/images/fso-image.bb: fso-image: ship some apps |
| 11:17.02 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r407b44a1fbc7 10/ (107 files in 39 dirs): merge of '5347007e975b912492b32fee6d4299c689309996' |
| 11:17.05 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03pb 07org.openmoko.dev * rcf95c8f659f5 10/packages/lmbench/ (6 files in 4 dirs): lmbench: add 2.5 |
| 11:17.08 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r1b77942a8c80 10/packages/mysql/ (5 files in 2 dirs): mysql: bump to 4.1.22 (last stable release in 4.1 branch) |
| 11:17.11 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * rf1801c82d70e 10/packages/mysql/ (files/fix_host_path.patch mysql_4.1.22.bb): mysql: fix host path. close bug#1782 |
| 11:17.16 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * rbab2b18c11af 10/packages/mysql/ (files/fix_host_path.patch mysql_4.1.22.bb): mysql: fix patch |
| 11:17.19 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r42a8cf46720a 10/ (12 files in 5 dirs): merge of '028626165f94e6e0adee3c762f85ef505eeaa914' |
| 11:17.24 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03rwhitby 07org.openmoko.dev * r4d936f868ba6 10/packages/images/fso-image.bb: fso-image: fixed typo |
| 11:17.29 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rfb277a17b3d4 10/packages/gcc/ (gcc-package-target.inc gcc_4.3.2.bb): gcc 4.3.2: fix packaging of crt*.o and include-fixed |
| 11:17.32 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r212ba0727d54 10/packages/gcc/ (gcc-package-target.inc gcc_4.3.2.bb): merge of '56d2135bf97d27ef385220e2f6f36071d007d2c1' |
| 11:17.35 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03thebohemian 07org.openmoko.dev * r4fe990d23013 10/packages/gtk+/ (gtk+_2.12.0.bb gtk+_2.12.11.bb gtk+_2.12.3.bb): Increased PR to reflect change in do_stage in gtk+.inc by koen |
| 11:17.40 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03oe 07org.openmoko.dev * rca1b613481ee 10/packages/gtk+/ (gtk+_2.12.0.bb gtk+_2.12.11.bb gtk+_2.12.3.bb): merge of '86aec156c9005ac5b6e746f4efd0249468f7a04e' |
| 11:17.45 | CIA-22 | (26 lines omitted) |
| 11:17.47 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03jeremy_laine 07org.openmoko.dev * rf47d150d3c84 10/packages/linux/ (linux-2.6.25/mpc8313e-rdb/defconfig linux_2.6.25.bb): linux-2.6.25: resync mpc8313e-rdb defconfig with 2.6.26 |
| 11:17.52 | *** join/#openmoko blan (n=blan@dslb-092-075-071-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:17.54 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03thesing 07org.openmoko.dev * rb66f3f500925 10/packages/kexecboot/ (3 files): linux-kexecboot: add cmdlines |
| 11:17.57 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03oe 07org.openmoko.dev * ra4209bde4815 10/packages/kexecboot/ (3 files): merge of '5245fa92de31b9af071626ab0aa8ee1699126429' |
| 11:18.00 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r4bb03f91f3bb 10/packages/dosbox/ (dosbox_0.72.bb files/gcc-4.3.patch): dosbox: fix gcc 4.3.x issues |
| 11:18.05 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r6217936c1b73 10/packages/pidgin/pidgin_2.5.0.bb: pidgin_2.5.0: --disable-screensaver. bug#4558 |
| 11:18.10 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * rbb6e36343578 10/packages/python/python-pygobject_2.14.2.bb: python-pygobject 2.14.2 increase PE to fix feeds, 2.15.x was premature |
| 11:18.13 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r2045ec3a28a0 10/packages/python/python-pygobject_2.14.2.bb: merge of '26da1e390ef5f5b958b6660965006568272d8f67' |
| 11:18.22 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r8aa44ae907b5 10/packages/pidgin/ (pidgin.inc pidgin_2.5.0.bb): pidgin2.5.0: improve packaging |
| 11:18.25 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * race919ededeb 10/packages/pidgin/ (pidgin_2.0.2.bb pidgin_2.1.1.bb pidgin_2.2.1.bb): pidgin: drop old recipies |
| 11:18.28 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03rwhitby 07org.openmoko.dev * r94b3ca244267 10/packages/slugos-init/files/leds: slugos-init: leds: Apply patch for varying input event number (from Gordon Farquharson) |
| 11:18.35 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03rwhitby 07org.openmoko.dev * r82ad344c6375 10/packages/slugos-init/files/leds: merge of '2a7482626b33acc99e7f2e051248f4b8c14ba8b6' |
| 11:18.38 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r154d239a0080 10/packages/leafpad/ (leafpad_0.8.15.bb leafpad_0.8.9.bb): leafpad: bump to 0.8.15 |
| 11:18.43 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r742909af6c35 10/packages/zbedic/libbedic_1.1.bb: libbedic: update fields, only ship dev package because it's a static lib |
| 11:18.50 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rb1bf70a40248 10/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom feed builder: build more packages |
| 11:18.53 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r67d564d1ec42 10/packages/cnc/ (5 files in 2 dirs): openredalert: game engine for red alert 1 |
| 11:18.56 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r40f0358c8995 10/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom feeds: add gdb, gdbserver and strace |
| 11:19.01 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * rf71c0642ee1f 10/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: merge of '0f57f5bc8ead2dbd47f11f9b636930304209133f' |
| 11:19.04 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03xjqian 07org.openmoko.dev * r2de4b61d9a91 10/packages/vnc/ (x11vnc_0.9.3.bb x11vnc_0.9.4.bb): x11vnc: bump to 0.9.4 |
| 11:19.09 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03khem 07org.openmoko.dev * r6d0b9e510c58 10/packages/libxml/ (libxml2-native_2.6.32.bb libxml2_2.6.32.bb): Add new recipes. Old recipes do not compile with gcc 4.3. They need backports. |
| 11:19.18 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03khem 07org.openmoko.dev * rae580be15b5f 10/packages/libxml/ (libxml2-native_2.6.32.bb libxml2_2.6.32.bb): merge of '1d03ea3d490cbb5935a7a927a9bfd95a70c8599f' |
| 11:19.21 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r882f029bd5ed 10/packages/vlc/vlc_0.9.2.bb: vlc: add 0.9.2 |
| 11:19.25 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r23cfb6b4372d 10/packages/miniclipboard/miniclipboard_0.3.bb: miniclipboard: depend on libxpm: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/139219/ |
| 11:19.28 | CIA-22 | (84 lines omitted) |
| 11:19.30 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r5832fc0ca94b 10/ (14 files in 3 dirs): linux-openmoko 2.6.24 update and remove outdated patches |
| 11:19.35 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r024801ff0e57 10/packages/udev/ (udev-124/init udev_124.bb): udev: add tmpfs fix from poky |
| 11:19.42 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r88191dd3daea 10/packages/glib-2.0/glib-2.0-native_2.18.0.bb: glib-2.0 native: fix DEPENDS |
| 11:19.45 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * red1391db9db8 10/ (14 files in 3 dirs): merge of '32c0fccda6ab3bd86ccbdddf72299fd683c82f91' |
| 11:19.50 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r89c23e8b548c 10/packages/linux/linux-openmoko_2.6.24+git.bb: linux-openmoko: openmoko developers like to have PV go backwards to mess up upgrade paths and feeds, the rest of the world frowns upon this practice, so let's *incremement* PV to fix everything |
| 11:19.54 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r8e6119277537 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add accelges, accellerometer-based gestures packages for the Wii and the Openmoko FreeRunner |
| 11:19.59 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * rbf16afbc8e5d 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): merge of '61be15dc709dfd7e90a6b6b0dae645794cdea4ef' |
| 11:20.04 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r4717b7f4ef14 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): starling svn convert to SRCREV |
| 11:20.07 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * rb74e00e3232b 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): merge of '0b19325615fce6910697ae5a99185b4d99f10436' |
| 11:20.12 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r053afdde807f 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): merge of 'c9189cf531a6d542d7960e099d5ba157da963401' |
| 11:20.15 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r9f517b2d3c86 10/packages/freesmartphone/ (5 files): freesmartphone: add an extra counter in front of SRCREV so that package upgrade actually work |
| 11:20.18 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r00d521d34bd0 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): merge of '6f38dd43d055a41dad4efd3faa8fb28f66c10ae3' |
| 11:20.23 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03oe 07org.openmoko.dev * r366cff6a9199 10/packages/freesmartphone/ (5 files): merge of '9d15f77b27c19d97e354262e4913bd37bb6b02d1' |
| 11:20.28 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r4a7963904fea 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ (ttf-arphic-uming_20080216.bb ttf.inc): add chinese font ttf-arphic-uming |
| 11:20.31 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * rd7223a866d5f 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ (ttf-arphic-uming_20080216.bb ttf.inc): merge of '607beb16c902d30bfd6adf75220b877b5611180c' |
| 11:20.36 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r72a2702e750b 10/packages/gtk+/ (6 files in 2 dirs): gtk+: add 2.14.2 |
| 11:20.59 | ieatlint | would it scare anyone else if the past several days of stock markets falling mysteriously coincided with a spike in firearm sales? |
| 11:21.21 | *** join/#openmoko xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-57ac73a346a94980) |
| 11:25.04 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rc84fbae59949 10/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: angstrom 2008: prefer gtk 2.14.2 |
| 11:26.53 | XorA | ieatlint: nothing would suprise me |
| 11:30.40 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r95de3459bdb2 10/packages/glib-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): glib-2.0: add 2.18.1 |
| 11:32.15 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rf7e14b297624 10/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: angstrom: prefer glib 2.18.1 |
| 11:34.46 | Dave | Xora! |
| 11:35.01 | quickdev | mickey|tw|away, http://git.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=history;f=packages/efl1/epdf;h=HEAD;hb=HEAD - your fix-plugin-patch can't be applied to epdf anymore. Maybe you can correct that, too. SHR buildhost fails because of it. |
| 11:35.20 | quickdev | mickey|tw|away, see here: http://shr.bearstech.com/autobuild-tail.log |
| 11:35.21 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rc2c25b0b7779 10/ (25 files in 6 dirs): mplayer svn: update SRCREV, remove w100 and pxafb patches that don't apply anymore, add patches for NEON |
| 11:43.10 | CM_work | ieatlint: Hehe |
| 11:45.24 | *** join/#openmoko edistar_ (n=edistar@ip503ddd09.speed.planet.nl) |
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| 11:48.03 | sledgeas | hello |
| 11:49.01 | sledgeas | i have opkg updated/upgraded my FR's Om2008.8 today, and it downloaded just and only angstrom and python-etk :( my last upgrade was 3 weeks ago, where only angstrom was updated. is Om2008.8 development halted or there's an error? |
| 11:50.49 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03woglinde2 07org.openmoko.dev * r25c433cdca84 10/packages/liboil/ (3 files in 2 dirs): liboil: fix compilation for armv4 and softfloat |
| 11:51.40 | dns53 | there have not been a lot of updates but i think they have moved to 2008.9, i'm not sure if you use opkg to upgrade to 2008.9 or not |
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| 11:59.34 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r0478c3ee67bf 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fso-gpsd git bump to 0.6+git |
| 12:04.00 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03mickeyl 07org.openmoko.dev * r2e7f2e55affe 10/packages/images/fso-image.bb: fso-image: no longer ship tangogps-fso |
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| 12:10.02 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03bluelightning 07org.openmoko.dev * r47c8cc979dde 10/packages/qpe-nmap/ (.mtn2git_empty qpe-nmap_0.02.bb): Add qpe-nmap - more usable and featureful nmap frontend for QPE/Opie |
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| 12:13.38 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r9c3c34162d2e 10/packages/xkbd/xkbd_0.8.15.bb: xkbd: fix SRC_URI |
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| 12:18.29 | SpeedEvil | Random question. Anyone happen to have a copy of Esquire, with the e-ink copy that they're going to bin. |
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| 12:18.52 | XorA | what the mag fulla semi nekkid chicks? |
| 12:19.30 | SpeedEvil | I don't actually care about anything otehr than the front cover. |
| 12:19.44 | XorA | I havent seen it |
| 12:19.46 | SpeedEvil | The e-ink bastards won't sell me the imaging film. |
| 12:19.55 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rc63fe3d241de 10/packages/linux/linux-omap_git.bb: linux-omap git: bump SRCREV |
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| 12:24.43 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * rd117d60ee481 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-omap git: move back one rev to fix MMC, fix MUSB to host in defconfig, add beagle asoc driver |
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| 12:26.11 | torindel | trickie|work: unless you got yoo much time to check in details things you crosscompile i sugest qemu (as some things will have problems i.e. with signals etc) |
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| 12:26.21 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03thebohemian 07org.openmoko.dev * r0e54f59908a0 10/packages/ (8 files in 8 dirs): merge of '3725e0639f360f0af8007c241526006b0593ddd6' |
| 12:27.11 | torindel | trickie|work: plus if you need to build your own stage (dunno why as you got optimalized one for moko anyway) you got 75% of work done as you have new working stage to build next one (i.e. mine) |
| 12:27.55 | trickie|work | torindel: right, thanks... yeahi am building my own as a learning exercise |
| 12:28.16 | trickie|work | torindel: im going to use your stage3 as a seed for my stage1 |
| 12:28.36 | torindel | trickie|work: you'll need to hack catalyst a bit for it to work |
| 12:29.07 | torindel | trickie|work: if you want to learn how to build stages i sugest going x86 -> x86 or amd64 -> amd64 |
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| 12:29.33 | torindel | as unless you got qemu farm with distcc it'll take long time |
| 12:30.56 | trickie|work | torindel: yeah i have done x86 -> x86, i just didn't know how you bootstrapped your stage1 for the moko |
| 12:31.03 | torindel | (if you want to change something like e.g. get rid of docs etc you can merge binary packages i also included and set appropriate INSTALL_MASK) |
| 12:31.12 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * ra3f1f90ca964 10/packages/mesa/ (9 files): mesa: add 7.2 from poky |
| 12:31.49 | torindel | trickie|work: you dont want to do it again belive me ;] |
| 12:31.52 | trickie|work | torindel: also FEATURES="nodoc noinfo" |
| 12:31.58 | torindel | yep |
| 12:32.05 | trickie|work | torindel: ok :) |
| 12:32.08 | trickie|work | thansk for the tips |
| 12:32.14 | trickie|work | ill have a play this weekend |
| 12:33.02 | torindel | trickie|work: some things dont work correctly when crosscompiled, some thing have problems crosscompiling, so getting basics from 0 to build stage is kinda painful |
| 12:33.26 | trickie|work | torindel: yeah absolutely... i have gotten no where so far :) |
| 12:34.18 | trickie|work | torindel: ok, so i will just use your stages i guess, thanks BTW |
| 12:34.38 | torindel | trickie|work: also note: #gentoo-embedded |
| 12:35.17 | trickie|work | will do |
| 12:36.43 | torindel | btw i'll post my uclibcgnuenabi stage sometime soon too (still trying to make it nls enabled, some things are still without nls) |
| 12:36.44 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03koen 07org.openmoko.dev * r097cbe231813 10/packages/xorg-proto/ (22 files): xorg-proto: attempt to sync with poky |
| 12:36.52 | torindel | -n |
| 12:37.28 | trickie|work | torindel: awesome |
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| 12:39.00 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03crofton 07org.openmoko.dev * r00536ce84de2 10/packages/linux/linux-omap2_git.bb: linux-omap2 : Bump PR to force rebuild after defconfig update. |
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| 12:46.03 | jopk | hi |
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| 12:46.13 | Tig| | hi |
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| 12:48.33 | jopk | I have the 2008.9 on my freerunner. when I boot I get a Enlightment error, so I don't get the desktop. ssh access works. the error is a window box saying something about recompile everthing with the -g flag. any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 12:49.42 | jopk | I've just run opkg update && opkg upgrade, but still the same problem |
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| 12:57.36 | jopk | how can I restart xserver? |
| 12:57.44 | XorA | and finally CIA crashed anyway :-) |
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| 13:00.16 | techiem2-r | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:00.29 | dos1 | hi |
| 13:00.35 | techiem2-r | mornin |
| 13:00.48 | sledgeas | hello |
| 13:01.25 | dos1 | do you know where can i find "blank" openmoko image? without any gsm stack? |
| 13:01.41 | Tanuva | Latest_Images on the wiki |
| 13:02.36 | torindel | dos1: use kernel + static busybox ;] |
| 13:02.39 | dos1 | Tanuva: thanks :) |
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| 13:05.55 | dos1 | torindel: hmm, it would start very quickly, i know, but i will use freerunner, not only look on prompt ;) |
| 13:06.58 | Tanuva | wants to get an enlightenment about using efl... |
| 13:07.03 | bipak | hi |
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| 13:23.43 | sledgeas | hello |
| 13:23.53 | dos1 | world |
| 13:23.58 | sledgeas | navit crashes on fresh instalk Om2008.9 |
| 13:24.39 | sledgeas | "There was no error message" :) (but during install (--force-depends) it curses on cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit: gtk+ libcairo2 libglib libdbus .. |
| 13:25.42 | techiem2-r | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.42 | techiem2-r | wer |
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| 13:27.06 | mwester | sledgeas: with --force-depends you get that sorta stuff. Reflash... |
| 13:28.22 | sledgeas | !? mwester: opkg install --force-depends navit_0.1.0+svnrev1255-r0_armv4t.ipk |
| 13:28.26 | sledgeas | from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit |
| 13:31.22 | mwester | Doesn't matter if someone tells you to do it; the --force-depends flag tells opkg to continue even if there's something horribly wrong with the dependencies, and missing libraries is certainly such a thing. |
| 13:31.58 | mwester | If it ends up working, great -- but then the dependencies and/or packaging is broken. If it doesn't work, it's probably because something is missing. |
| 13:32.18 | sledgeas | rite, so navit is rendered unusable for the momentarily documentation on wiki |
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| 13:49.33 | sledgeas | guys, when will glamo chip reveal drivers for X for accelerating 2D (at least), as FR's graphics is very slow, and is a stopper for my colleague in buying it |
| 13:50.08 | dos1 | sledgeas: graphics on freerunner isn't very slow... |
| 13:50.54 | sledgeas | yea, it isn't when i scroll the list of WiFi APs, but is slow scrolling a contacts' list.. software? i use OM2008.9 |
| 13:51.12 | dos1 | sledgeas: toolkit |
| 13:51.22 | sledgeas | 7MB/s glamo video chip bus shared with SD card.. |
| 13:51.22 | dos1 | contacts list is in Qt |
| 13:51.50 | dos1 | Qt/X11 has the same problem that GTK+ |
| 13:53.01 | leinir | sledgeas: You /could/ just use Qt Extended... which is a lot snappier :) |
| 13:53.04 | sledgeas | then which distro would be the fastest drawing in thar respect? |
| 13:53.24 | leinir | Qt Extended doesn't have an X server, though :) |
| 13:53.36 | mickey|tw | fastest drawing you get w/ EFL |
| 13:53.43 | mickey|tw | or bypassing X at all |
| 13:53.48 | mickey|tw | talking glamo ioctls |
| 13:53.52 | mickey|tw | (or whatever X uses) |
| 13:55.04 | Hire | and however when you scrolling contacts glamo doesn't use the sd card |
| 13:55.25 | Hire | if you put the os into the nand |
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| 13:56.09 | sledgeas | Hire, true, but maybe I'am GPS'ing with maps on sd in the background and/or listening to an mp3 |
| 13:56.12 | sledgeas | from sd |
| 13:56.13 | sledgeas | etc |
| 13:57.06 | sledgeas | still even the wi-fi list's performance isn't that of e.g. iphone's scroll, that's why I ask about X glamo module |
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| 13:59.04 | Hire | the glamo works well |
| 14:00.13 | Hire | 7 mb/s of bandwitch is quite available for everything you want |
| 14:00.50 | Hire | sure, you can't play with quake on your FR but the 2D works |
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| 14:02.18 | leinir | Well, 7 MB/s as long as you don't use the SD card at the same time anyway :) |
| 14:02.27 | Hire | and the iPhone is more powerful then FR |
| 14:02.31 | sledgeas | and this 2D can no more be accelerated even if glamo opens its chip? |
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| 14:02.42 | Hire | yes but how much bandwitch you use for the contacts? |
| 14:03.00 | Hire | (16:02:31) sledgeas: and this 2D can no more be accelerated even if glamo opens its chip? <-- we need someone that works on the driver |
| 14:03.15 | sledgeas | Hire: so that's what I wanted to know, the status.. |
| 14:03.29 | Hire | well... |
| 14:03.33 | leinir | We need the new driver structure from Tungsten Graphics in mainline x :P |
| 14:03.40 | sledgeas | so I could reply to my colleague about buying or not fr, or waiting for GTA03 |
| 14:04.05 | Hire | well... |
| 14:04.23 | leinir | GTA02 is still a developers' device, GTA03 might be usable by normal people :) |
| 14:04.29 | Hire | the gta02 isn't a phone for users but it's target for dev :) |
| 14:04.52 | Hire | the next major release, 2009.X, will be for normal user |
| 14:04.56 | leinir | Even though you can flash something useful on it, of course :) |
| 14:05.02 | sledgeas | yap, roger that then |
| 14:05.10 | Hire | with the FSO + paroli with a stable and ready to use daily phone |
| 14:06.08 | Hire | http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/gitweb?p=xglamo.git;a=shortlog;h=master-1.5 |
| 14:06.12 | Hire | here the status of glamo |
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| 14:07.09 | Hire | in the near future we get finally the SHR ( a distro driven by community ) and 2009.X |
| 14:09.01 | Hire | I want the glamo chip on GTA03 |
| 14:09.50 | badday | hi there, I am looking for free programmers who want to take part of an open source programming project, if anybody is interested please send a PM |
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| 14:16.50 | ieatlint | the glamo is a joke, and everything i've heard says the glamo is out |
| 14:17.34 | ieatlint | raster has an nda with the company and has the docs for the glamo chip, and he says it's a POS with no hope of actually being useful -- i'm inclined to believe him |
| 14:17.55 | dos1 | POS? |
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| 14:18.18 | ieatlint | piece of shit |
| 14:18.32 | dos1 | why? |
| 14:18.44 | ieatlint | not to be confused with point of sale, although sometimes the two can be interchangable |
| 14:19.40 | ieatlint | i'm not nearly technical enough to give you a full answer, but between raster and steve (om vp of marketing), i've heard only bad |
| 14:20.36 | ieatlint | complaints about vram, what it can draw, and various other things -- all compounded on top of the restrictive 7mbps bus |
| 14:20.46 | dos1 | glamo in theory can do 3d acceleration in 320x240... docs should tell, how to use it... |
| 14:21.12 | ieatlint | it falls under the better than nothing, but not much, and not worth the money for the chip and its integration |
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| 14:21.53 | ieatlint | plus it isn't open, which begs the question of why it was ever put in, and is a main reason of why it is highly unlikely to return |
| 14:22.07 | GNUtoo | hello, i saw 16GB sdhc micro-sd cards...do they have a chance to work? |
| 14:22.28 | dos1 | GNUtoo: they should work |
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| 14:23.01 | dos1 | ieatlint: so it's 7mbps bus so slow to use 3d acceleration in 320x240? |
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| 14:23.24 | GNUtoo | dos1, ok wow...what should i do to see if the model that i saw work...because here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards there are no 16GB cards |
| 14:23.31 | ieatlint | dos1, anyway, seeing wth raster's background on enlightenment, and steve's background desiging 3d chips... i trust their opinions, hehe |
| 14:24.00 | ieatlint | the bus speed is a separate issue that worsens the situation, but the glamo sucks either way |
| 14:24.40 | dos1 | ieatlint: i know, vram is to small to do 640x480 acceleration |
| 14:25.07 | dos1 | but i don't know, if glamo on freerunner can do it on 320x240 well |
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| 14:25.42 | ieatlint | i seem to recall hearing that the glamo can't do 3d in vga, but can do something minor with it in qvga... |
| 14:25.49 | ieatlint | let me see if i can dredge up raster's comments |
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| 14:29.25 | ieatlint | this will take a couple min, need to download a 21mb log file from a server, hehe |
| 14:29.32 | ieatlint | and then grep through it |
| 14:29.40 | dos1 | ieatlint: ;) |
| 14:29.55 | dos1 | hmm, know someone, when openmoko will use 2.6.26 or 2.6.27 kernel? |
| 14:30.17 | ieatlint | 2.6.26 has been getting a lot of work i think... probably soon |
| 14:30.28 | Nobody96 | im wondering, is it possible to build an tgz image instead of an jffs2 image with the MokoMakefile? |
| 14:30.30 | ieatlint | but oh damn, .27 is out, nice |
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| 14:30.58 | lindi- | Nobody96: tgz image? |
| 14:31.43 | Nobody96 | dont know how i should name it instead but i mean the contents of the make image resulting jffs2 in a tgz for putting it on the sd |
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| 14:33.06 | dos1 | ieatlint: and what user could see, when he upgrade his openmoko kernel to 2.6.26? ;) better battery life? will cpufreq work with .26? |
| 14:33.53 | dos1 | hmm, openmoko future isn't well documented... ;) |
| 14:34.44 | CM_work | http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_27 |
| 14:34.56 | CM_work | It's a bit slow right now though.. Always is after a release |
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| 14:37.35 | milos_ | !logs |
| 14:37.35 | cdbot2 | Channel logs for #openmoko are archived at: |
| 14:37.37 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23openmoko |
| 14:37.38 | cdbot2 | Live-logs are available at |
| 14:37.39 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23openmoko.livelog |
| 14:37.41 | cdbot2 | See ?? help-logs for usage instructions |
| 14:38.05 | ieatlint | dos1, that i don't know |
| 14:38.17 | ieatlint | but i'm about to post some of raster's criticisms of the glamo |
| 14:39.26 | dolf1074 | ieatlint: which post of raster's criticisms? Can you give me a link. |
| 14:40.02 | ieatlint | http://tehinterweb.com/glamo.txt |
| 14:40.26 | ieatlint | that's from this channel, and is dated, two different blocks of text (the urls he posts are videos of a UI he wrote for a different embedded device) |
| 14:41.00 | dolf1074 | ok thanks, will read it. |
| 14:41.35 | ieatlint | sounds like there are mailing lists posts based on his comments |
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| 14:44.12 | ieatlint | i have some other one-liners from him complaining about the glamo, but that's the bulk of the concise stuff |
| 14:46.18 | dolf1074 | and what will your reply be? |
| 14:46.39 | ieatlint | my reply? |
| 14:47.06 | dolf1074 | oh no, I've read it wrongly |
| 14:47.34 | dolf1074 | I though you would reply to it |
| 14:47.58 | dolf1074 | but you're just gonna post his criticism on the wiki/mailinglist |
| 14:48.03 | ieatlint | no, i gave up on the glamo a while ago, and based on all the info i've heard, i don't expect it to ever really be used |
| 14:48.19 | CM_work | Yeah, it's crap :) |
| 14:48.26 | CM_work | pats his GTA01 |
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| 14:48.28 | dolf1074 | I think the same |
| 14:48.51 | CM_work | pokes Ghiottone with a stick |
| 14:49.03 | dolf1074 | but yeah, they thought they would be able to write their own driver |
| 14:49.06 | ieatlint | and no, i'm not going to bother posting it to the wiki or mailing list (and it sounds like it may already be on the mailing list |
| 14:49.24 | XorA | dolf1074: the problem isnt the driver :-( |
| 14:49.49 | dolf1074 | it's part of the problem |
| 14:49.56 | XorA | dolf1074: its zero of the problem |
| 14:50.00 | dolf1074 | no? |
| 14:50.11 | XorA | dolf1074: the problem with the glamo is we cant write or read to it any where near fast enough |
| 14:50.13 | XorA | simple as that |
| 14:50.33 | CM_work | Ahh.. Friday and free beer at the office :) |
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| 14:50.45 | ieatlint | right now, the work needs to be on getting a backend and a frontend that are stable, efficient and nice |
| 14:50.51 | XorA | if we could write to it at same speed as system ram, we would have been ok, but the bandwidth to device is crippled |
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| 14:50.58 | ieatlint | the gta03 is where the graphics stuff will take hold |
| 14:51.36 | dolf1074 | I hope |
| 14:51.41 | XorA | heh, we should see what a GSM modem on the pandora looks like |
| 14:51.53 | ieatlint | steve wouldn't elaborate, but essentially said that the gta03 "won't have the graphics problems" of the gta02, and later, with a wry smile, that it in general "wouldn't be a problem" |
| 14:51.59 | XorA | then steal the design if it works well |
| 14:52.22 | ieatlint | the openpandora doesn't have a gsm modem |
| 14:52.49 | XorA | no, but can be fitted with one quite easilly |
| 14:53.19 | ieatlint | if you want to drop ~$200 on one and don't mind it sticking out the side through a usb port, sure |
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| 14:53.44 | XorA | wow they are expensive in your part of the world |
| 14:54.12 | ieatlint | oh wait, down to $150 now |
| 14:54.20 | XorA | we get them free here |
| 14:54.43 | ieatlint | they hand out gsm modules where you live huh |
| 14:55.05 | XorA | if you have a data contract like I do, they just give them to you |
| 14:55.47 | ieatlint | i think we're talking about different things |
| 14:56.00 | ieatlint | you mean like a dongle for data? |
| 14:56.51 | ieatlint | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=7917 ... because that's what i thought you meant... quadband gsm, gprs and a gps module built in |
| 14:57.23 | XorA | heh yeah, I have little use for voice on a GSM device :-) |
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| 15:01.03 | gromez | Purée !!!!!! |
| 15:01.21 | gromez | sorry, wrong window |
| 15:01.40 | ieatlint | freaky french |
| 15:02.15 | gromez | :p |
| 15:02.20 | ieatlint | :) |
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| 15:10.57 | slaxxin | well its nice to see a media player working on QT |
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| 15:16.37 | Ghiottone | CM_work, mm hey CM :) |
| 15:17.21 | Ghiottone | linux 2.6.27 includes UBIFS |
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| 15:19.51 | Tm_T | Ghiottone: and that is... |
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| 15:20.46 | Ghiottone | Tm_T, http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubifs.html |
| 15:21.12 | Ghiottone | Tm_T, it's a filesystem for flash memories that includes wear leveling and other optimizations |
| 15:22.00 | Ghiottone | Tm_T, they claim it to be an evolution of jffs2 |
| 15:22.19 | Tm_T | I see |
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| 15:23.25 | aliases123 | Ghiottone: its brand new expect some delay before its even considered :) |
| 15:25.05 | Ghiottone | aliases123, yes I know. but it is worth to keep an eye on it :) |
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| 15:44.50 | jones_ | anyone remember that site for setting up leenux with wpa-enterprise networks at uni's |
| 15:44.55 | hklein | am |
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| 16:51.01 | bove2 | trying to boot fdom from sd card, but I get a kernel panic: |
| 16:51.03 | bove2 | kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel |
| 16:51.10 | bove2 | any tips? |
| 16:51.22 | techiem2-r | hmm |
| 16:51.42 | max_posedon | microsd flasshed in not correct way |
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| 16:51.47 | max_posedon | may be not all files, or smth like this |
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| 16:53.49 | bove2 | kernel or rootfs? |
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| 16:59.17 | ieatlint | :) |
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| 17:04.28 | max_posedon | bove2, rootfs |
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| 17:06.15 | bove2 | ok. I'll try reflashing |
| 17:07.56 | dos1 | bove2: check partitioning |
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| 17:12.16 | bove2 | ext2 is supported with the default 2008.9 kernel, right? |
| 17:16.33 | techiem2-r | yeah |
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| 17:22.16 | finger | 2MAI |
| 17:22.23 | finger | sorry ;-) |
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| 17:30.11 | sicu | hey, anybody here know if the FR would be able to charge in the car using something like this?: http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=101668 |
| 17:31.08 | viq | Didn't click yet, but I have charged FR in car in a "lighter-to-USB" adapter |
| 17:31.31 | techiem2-r | that's what that lookslike |
| 17:31.37 | vinicius | nice, I forgot to order the debug board :/ |
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| 17:36.52 | toggles_w | my lighter to usb only gives 500mah, not enout |
| 17:37.12 | sicu | viq: do you need a specific type/model with some kind of resistor for the FR to draw the required amount of juice? or will any usb car charger do? |
| 17:37.16 | viq | You may charge with 500 as well |
| 17:37.33 | viq | I have no idea, it was my mother's "universal phone charger" |
| 17:37.35 | toggles_w | mine wont |
| 17:37.52 | viq | strange |
| 17:37.56 | toggles_w | i tried 3 usb cables that work on a lappy, the unit says 500mah, doesn't seem to be enough |
| 17:38.06 | sicu | hmmm |
| 17:38.13 | toggles_w | very, pissed me off, must get more power |
| 17:39.54 | Tig| | toggles_w: there are two charging modes |
| 17:40.09 | Tig| | one is normal usb and the other is the fast mode |
| 17:41.07 | sicu | so you have to use something like batmon.py to set your FR in the correct mode for it to work with only 500mah? |
| 17:41.16 | Tig| | the fast mode only works with the FR charger as it has a resistor on it that allows the FR to recognise it and pull more power, it is a safety feature so it does not attempt to pull daft amounts of power from your USB bus |
| 17:41.27 | toggles_w | ahh |
| 17:41.55 | dos1 | but i think you can set charging by 1A on non-openmoko charger |
| 17:42.11 | dos1 | there was somewhere some thing in /sys |
| 17:42.34 | Tig| | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger |
| 17:44.05 | Tig| | there is a link on there for forcing fast charge mode. make sure your charger can handle it |
| 17:44.25 | toggles_w | Tig|: thanks for the info, u r a god |
| 17:44.42 | Tig| | it is all in the wiki toggles_w :) |
| 17:49.39 | sicu | ah, so if the FR is plugged into a charger without a resistor between id pin and ground it will only draw 100mA |
| 17:49.40 | toggles_w | sweet, so it's just echo 500 > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/force_usb_limit_dangerous, guess i'll just hack an init script |
| 17:49.44 | toggles_w | thanks Tig| |
| 17:49.50 | sicu | but you can still force 500mA |
| 17:50.12 | sicu | hehe ... yeh, thx Tig| |
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| 18:02.58 | samgee | Getting Started in wiki says: |
| 18:03.01 | samgee | Recent changes to the usb ethernet support require that you install these two modules, before you reboot, after updating. |
| 18:03.08 | samgee | # opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether |
| 18:03.18 | samgee | but where is kernel-module-g-ether? |
| 18:03.52 | Wonka | AAAARGH!!!1! |
| 18:04.15 | Wonka | x died because of oom, because of FRIGGIN /var/tmp/x.log being too FRIGGIN big. |
| 18:04.42 | Wonka | ** (matchbox-panel-2:1568): DEBUG: battery_applet: signal_filter |
| 18:04.42 | Wonka | ** (matchbox-panel-2:1568): DEBUG: (unknown dbus message, ignoring) |
| 18:04.45 | Wonka | and stuff. |
| 18:04.52 | Wonka | matchbox-keyboard-remote.c:35,mb_kbd_remote_process_xevents() got a message |
| 18:04.59 | Wonka | ** cb_gps_timer() |
| 18:05.07 | Wonka | WHO wants to FRIGGIN know? |
| 18:05.42 | lindi- | Wonka: haha :) |
| 18:06.01 | Dave | I KILL MOKOS |
| 18:06.15 | Wonka | I MILL KOKOS! |
| 18:06.18 | Dave | Wonka, stop destroying shit! |
| 18:06.20 | Dave | That's my job! |
| 18:06.40 | Dave | :p |
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| 18:09.25 | Wonka | and why does friggin init think "HOME=/"? |
| 18:09.39 | Dave | o_O |
| 18:09.43 | Dave | ack, that sounds messy :D |
| 18:10.26 | Wonka | that's 2008.4 |
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| 18:11.05 | toggles_w | Wonka: did you try softlinkgin? ln -sf /root / ? |
| 18:11.18 | toggles_w | nah.. don't.. ;-) |
| 18:11.27 | Wonka | toggles_w: the problem is the other way round |
| 18:11.42 | toggles_w | lol |
| 18:11.43 | toggles_w | yep |
| 18:12.08 | Wonka | toggles_w: i want stuff like .xsession, .xsession-errors, but not in /, but in ~root, that means /root or /home/root |
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| 18:25.48 | samgee | hm, why is kernel-module-g-ether in the testing/om-gta02 repository instead of in Om2007.2/om-gta02? |
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| 18:34.56 | Dave | O_o |
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| 18:55.30 | samgee | crap, installing kernel-module-g-ether from testing does not compute |
| 18:56.45 | Tig| | I did not think you still needed to install those modules after upgrading? I thought they had fixed all that |
| 18:57.41 | samgee | oh, I'm just following the wiki |
| 18:58.15 | samgee | I would like to make corrections as I go along, but I need to know what's right |
| 18:59.02 | Tig| | I am not running 2008 atm so can't confirm :( |
| 18:59.28 | samgee | it's for 2007.2 |
| 18:59.43 | samgee | I unpacked my FR yesterday and taking it step by step |
| 19:00.34 | samgee | I'll just reboot without the module and see where that takes me |
| 19:04.18 | LionKMP | why not upgrade to 2008.9? |
| 19:04.53 | LionKMP | whatever you learn in trying 2007.2 will suddenly become waste of time as soon as you upgrade ;-) |
| 19:05.26 | samgee | LionKMP: because the wiki says to do it this way |
| 19:05.37 | SpeedEvil | Well... |
| 19:05.40 | SpeedEvil | The wiki lies! |
| 19:05.45 | LionKMP | which page? Getting started with your freerunner? |
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| 19:06.11 | samgee | LionKMP: yep |
| 19:06.55 | samgee | SpeedEvil: that's why I'm following it while trying to fix it |
| 19:08.10 | LionKMP | it's really free choice, and I am not using FR as daily phone, but I would definately not learn an abandoned system, or try to get it working. |
| 19:08.31 | dos1 | LionKMP: there is not much difference between 2007.2 and 2008.9... |
| 19:08.35 | dos1 | only GUI and GSM stack |
| 19:08.51 | dos1 | which will be ported to use FSO |
| 19:09.00 | LionKMP | I never needed to worry about ehter-e or any other kernel modules on 2008.8 |
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| 19:09.24 | dos1 | I never needed to worry about g-ether or any other kernel moduler on 2007.2 |
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| 19:09.45 | LionKMP | :D ok |
| 19:09.58 | samgee | LionKMP: openmoko gets more help if the entry barrier is low |
| 19:10.07 | samgee | sucky wiki instructions raise the barrier |
| 19:10.24 | Tm_T | fix 'em (:) |
| 19:10.29 | samgee | I'm just trying to do my bit |
| 19:10.43 | LionKMP | samgee: I know, I am editing it daily. :) |
| 19:10.52 | Tm_T | huggles LionKMP |
| 19:11.10 | dos1 | ASU is good for me if it is used as PDA... i don't like it as phone... |
| 19:11.30 | samgee | looks like g-ether was indeed not necessary |
| 19:11.40 | dos1 | as phone Qtopia/Qt Extended works well |
| 19:11.57 | LionKMP | anyway, I hate when people tries to tell me to switch to another distro. And now what? I started too! :( |
| 19:11.58 | dos1 | and 2007.2 works well as phone and as pda (but slooowly :x) |
| 19:12.11 | Tm_T | dos1: Qtextended is missing working gprs |
| 19:12.26 | LionKMP | I want it AS FreeRunner, and Om 2008.9 works perfect :) |
| 19:12.48 | dos1 | LionKMP: i'm not trying to tell you to switch to another distro |
| 19:13.28 | dos1 | i'm just replying to your opinion on 2007.2, with witch i disagree ;] |
| 19:13.34 | LionKMP | dos1: yep, I know, but unfrortunately I adviced that to samgee. |
| 19:13.43 | samgee | once I feel comfortable with the state of the Getting Started page, I'll move to installing 2008.9 onto SD, which looks like the next logical step |
| 19:13.49 | LionKMP | ok, I don't know 2007.2, so saying no more :) |
| 19:14.08 | LionKMP | "logical step" :) |
| 19:14.08 | uhsf | Om 2008.9 does not work perfect |
| 19:14.11 | dos1 | LionKMP: and what about that? but i'm telling to you ;p |
| 19:14.23 | dos1 | (with my perfect english :DD) |
| 19:15.12 | LionKMP | uses 2008.8 because that looks to be the most Openmoko Inc. supporting option |
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| 19:15.27 | samgee | uhsf: does any other image work perfectly? |
| 19:15.51 | dos1 | uses 2007.2 because that looks to be the most stable option |
| 19:15.58 | samgee | I thought "official" support was for 2008.9 now? |
| 19:16.05 | dos1 | samgee: and the most perfect ;) |
| 19:16.07 | dos1 | but slow :( |
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| 19:17.04 | thesnark | I <3 OpenMoko |
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| 19:17.13 | LionKMP | define openmoko |
| 19:17.14 | samgee | hm, cdc-ether module was also unnecessary, so stripping that from the wiki |
| 19:17.23 | Tm_T | <3 my phone |
| 19:17.37 | LionKMP | <3 |
| 19:17.38 | dos1 | ether is used to ethernet over usb i think |
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| 19:19.07 | samgee | dos1: I removed it, rebooted and I can still do ssh over usb |
| 19:19.26 | dos1 | samgee: so i think wrong :x |
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| 19:21.39 | samgee | hm, opkg info kernel-module-cdc-ether isn't very informative |
| 19:21.42 | samgee | yeah, well |
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| 19:27.12 | dos1 | ah |
| 19:27.20 | dos1 | g-ether was to ehternet over usb |
| 19:27.26 | dos1 | cdc-ether - i don't know |
| 19:27.27 | dos1 | :D |
| 19:28.26 | uhsf | i'm still using 2007.2, i haven't touched anything yet on my freerunner i fear breaking the little stability it has |
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| 19:28.58 | uhsf | didn't even set actual time or changed the annoying ringtone |
| 19:29.02 | dos1 | uhsf: i was touching to bring a little stability into it |
| 19:29.13 | dos1 | little more* |
| 19:29.37 | dos1 | vssd - very simple deamon to respawn matchbox window manager if it crashes |
| 19:29.45 | dos1 | patched neod - accelerometers |
| 19:30.06 | dos1 | patched phone-kit - different ringtone for dials and smses |
| 19:30.26 | dos1 | and /etc/apm.d scripts - suspend |
| 19:30.42 | dos1 | and i think i can call it "stable" |
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| 19:33.02 | dos1 | the only issue: pidgin isn't working :( |
| 19:33.13 | dos1 | crashes on start |
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| 19:33.54 | LionKMP | it works for me on om 2008.8 ;-) |
| 19:34.08 | Dave | Whoa whoa whoa |
| 19:34.15 | Dave | Something works... on 2008? |
| 19:34.18 | LionKMP | I don't see what I type, until I send, but it works. |
| 19:34.22 | Dave | This must be breaking news! |
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| 19:34.37 | LionKMP | Dave: much more! :D |
| 19:34.40 | Dave | o_o |
| 19:34.45 | dos1 | it worked, but after some update it stoped to |
| 19:34.47 | gromez | nice, with the latest fso-unstable, my FR boots again ! |
| 19:35.13 | Dave | heh |
| 19:35.15 | LionKMP | I'll boot my FR (does that mean two things? Ok, maybe only in Hungarian). |
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| 19:35.41 | dos1 | but i have angstrom, om2008.9-unstable, fso-unstable, celtune, scaredy-cat, shr... repos |
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| 19:35.51 | toggles_w | gromez: better than fso-testing? |
| 19:35.56 | LionKMP | Dave: you see, with FSO even booting the Os is something special :-) |
| 19:35.58 | dos1 | maybe someone have corrupted pidgin packages |
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| 19:36.14 | LionKMP | dos1: no error messages when you start from console? |
| 19:36.22 | gromez | toggles_w: never tried fso-testing |
| 19:36.27 | toggles_w | gromez: thanks |
| 19:36.45 | methril|laptop | hi |
| 19:36.46 | dos1 | LionKMP: yes, but only how to report it |
| 19:36.52 | dos1 | and segfault |
| 19:37.39 | LionKMP | report? |
| 19:37.48 | dos1 | on bugzilla |
| 19:37.49 | dos1 | ;p |
| 19:38.03 | LionKMP | ah, to maintainers of 2007.2... :-p :D |
| 19:38.18 | dos1 | no, maintainers of pidgin |
| 19:38.24 | Dave | Fuck yeah, 2007! |
| 19:38.32 | LionKMP | LOL |
| 19:38.34 | Dave | oh that not knowing what you type |
| 19:38.40 | Dave | there's an easy fix for that, dum-dum |
| 19:38.47 | Dave | just resize the fucking conversation window |
| 19:38.54 | Dave | it should by default, but it's dumb |
| 19:39.01 | Dave | it's not a mobile version after all |
| 19:39.23 | LionKMP | hm cool, I'll try. |
| 19:39.35 | Dave | yeah I was pissed about that at first until I noticed that |
| 19:39.36 | Dave | :p |
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| 19:43.29 | Dave | Sargun. |
| 19:43.55 | Sargun | Dave. |
| 19:44.51 | Tig| | Dave! |
| 19:45.00 | Tm_T | kids |
| 19:45.10 | dos1 | Kids! |
| 19:45.24 | methril|laptop | is there a party? |
| 19:45.29 | methril|laptop | i want to join :) |
| 19:45.34 | methril|laptop | all! |
| 19:45.37 | Tm_T | no, sowwy, just KDE svn down |
| 19:46.01 | methril|laptop | well, but not gnome, neither e17 :D |
| 19:46.11 | dos1 | KDE svn down? |
| 19:46.13 | dos1 | nooooooo!' |
| 19:46.17 | Tm_T | dos1: indeed |
| 19:46.23 | Tm_T | methril|laptop: that isn't helping me (: |
| 19:46.31 | methril|laptop | are you waintin some qt image? |
| 19:46.42 | gromez | oh, maybe zhone will be ringing now, i've installed fso-sounds |
| 19:47.14 | Tm_T | methril|laptop: no, not really, waiting to make some nice Plasmoids |
| 19:47.35 | dos1 | i want plasma on freerunner! |
| 19:47.44 | Dave | Affirmative. |
| 19:47.49 | methril|laptop | i didn't know Pasmoids |
| 19:47.53 | Dave | Whoever was talking about pidgin, did my fix work? |
| 19:47.54 | methril|laptop | i'm going to take a look |
| 19:47.58 | Dave | Tm_T :p |
| 19:48.03 | Dave | Pasmoids? |
| 19:48.09 | Dave | Hey mithril :P |
| 19:48.12 | methril|laptop | hehehe |
| 19:48.20 | Dave | oh, hey toggles :) |
| 19:48.43 | Tm_T | Dave: yes? |
| 19:49.32 | Dave | yo |
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| 20:01.17 | gurugentoo | does anyone use gentoo on their moko? |
| 20:01.40 | dos1 | gurugentoo: search on #openmoko-pl |
| 20:01.55 | Tm_T | er? |
| 20:02.00 | gurugentoo | dos1: ah |
| 20:02.07 | dos1 | they write instuctions for installing gentoo on freerunner |
| 20:02.14 | Tm_T | I see |
| 20:02.20 | gurugentoo | there's only one person in there lol |
| 20:02.34 | dos1 | #openmoko.pl, sorry |
| 20:03.03 | gurugentoo | hehe ok |
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| 20:03.42 | dos1 | now they are trying to install arch on fr :D |
| 20:03.51 | Tm_T | o k |
| 20:03.56 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 20:04.08 | gurugentoo | is that polish (pl) ? |
| 20:04.11 | techiem2-r | how long til FRbuntu? |
| 20:04.12 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 20:04.31 | gurugentoo | the wiki on that channel is definitely not english |
| 20:04.45 | torindel | gurugentoo: just ask here (i wrote gentoo page on wiki) |
| 20:04.47 | dos1 | yes, that channel is definitely not english |
| 20:04.48 | dos1 | :D |
| 20:05.43 | soltys | yeap ;) |
| 20:06.22 | torindel | gurugentoo: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo |
| 20:06.36 | gurugentoo | torindel: lol ok, is it doable to compile the FSO zhone packages on a gentoo? does anyone do it on the device with distcc? |
| 20:06.58 | gurugentoo | s/a gentoo/gentoo/ |
| 20:07.18 | gurugentoo | shh |
| 20:07.45 | torindel | gurugentoo: yes it is, i dont do it on device itself i use qemu farm with distcc for final builds |
| 20:08.15 | Dave | torindel! |
| 20:08.25 | gurugentoo | torindel: ah qemu would work better yes |
| 20:08.26 | Dave | oh no |
| 20:08.29 | Dave | who let the ricers in? |
| 20:08.32 | torindel | i'll make newer packages when i get my desktop and internet access at home |
| 20:08.35 | torindel | Dave! |
| 20:08.59 | torindel | (i'm still doing room repairs atm) |
| 20:09.38 | torindel | so i'm kinda "on cardboxes" -__-; |
| 20:09.58 | torindel | gurugentoo: btw theres wiki page for that too |
| 20:10.35 | torindel | gurugentoo: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GentooQEMUBuildBox |
| 20:10.44 | Dave | Okay :D |
| 20:10.45 | Dave | cool |
| 20:10.46 | gurugentoo | torindel: sweet, thx |
| 20:10.49 | Dave | yeah, I've done that |
| 20:10.56 | Dave | the corrugated furniture approach :) |
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| 20:28.50 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03flyser * r305 10/trunk/umaf-concepts/gesturesdemo/ (. gesturesdemo.edc gesturesdemo.py): |
| 20:28.50 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: Add a demo application to demonstrate our ideas for the illume gesture control. |
| 20:28.50 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: Note that this is not of any practical use. |
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| 20:38.37 | yabo | hello |
| 20:38.54 | yabo | yesterday |
| 20:39.03 | yabo | i installed gcc and gcc-symlink |
| 20:39.08 | yabo | on my qtopia 4.4.1 freerunner |
| 20:39.21 | yabo | i just tried to ./configure the python source |
| 20:39.48 | yabo | checking for C compiler default output file name... |
| 20:39.59 | yabo | configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 20:40.12 | yabo | what is wrong/am i missing? |
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| 20:45.04 | donomo | which kernel image should i used with the 'Qt Extended 4.4.1'? (linked to from wiki.openmoko.org) |
| 20:45.42 | yabo | the most recent qtopia-image |
| 20:45.46 | yabo | thats the one i am using at least |
| 20:46.02 | donomo | yabo: got a url for that? |
| 20:46.38 | donomo | i see a kernel on http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/ |
| 20:46.46 | yabo | http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=79 i think |
| 20:46.50 | donomo | "This is a link to mwesters kernel for the Openmoko Freerunner (gta02)" |
| 20:47.18 | yabo | yes that one i guess |
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| 20:51.16 | Dave | raster ftw |
| 20:53.41 | bove2 | anyone using bluetooth keyboards in qtopia? |
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| 20:56.58 | lindi- | sh-3.2# flash_eraseall /dev/mtd2 |
| 20:56.58 | lindi- | Erasing 128 Kibyte @ 20000 -- 50 % complete. |
| 20:56.58 | lindi- | sh-3.2# nandwrite env.new.st /dev/mtd2 |
| 20:57.01 | lindi- | MEMGETINFO: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
| 20:58.36 | torindel | try dd? -__-; |
| 20:58.48 | torindel | and on /dev/mtd2block or something like that |
| 20:59.04 | torindel | and dont forget to sync |
| 21:00.37 | donomo | qtopia 4.4.1/mwester kernel flashed. the openmoko startup/splash screen just sits there. :( |
| 21:05.19 | yabo | halp |
| 21:05.22 | yabo | i am trying to install debian |
| 21:05.34 | yabo | oh wait |
| 21:05.35 | yabo | nvm |
| 21:09.39 | lindi- | torindel: wrong order of arguments |
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| 21:11.16 | bove2 | are there any text editors available in the opkg repositaries? |
| 21:11.58 | Tm_T | nano ? |
| 21:12.16 | methril|laptop | vi? |
| 21:12.26 | lindi- | now, first attempt to boot my newly-built linux :) |
| 21:12.37 | Tm_T | lindi-: huzzah |
| 21:13.38 | techiem2-r | yay it works! |
| 21:13.43 | techiem2-r | dances |
| 21:13.57 | bove2 | root@om-gta02:~# opkg install vi |
| 21:13.57 | bove2 | An error ocurred, return value: -1094603956. |
| 21:13.57 | bove2 | root@om-gta02:~# opkg install nano |
| 21:13.57 | bove2 | An error ocurred, return value: -1097303220. |
| 21:14.10 | Tm_T | awww |
| 21:14.31 | lindi- | bove2: recompile with debugging symbols and start it under gdb? |
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| 21:15.38 | bove2 | this is qtopia 441 btw |
| 21:15.45 | bove2 | what is gdb? |
| 21:15.53 | donomo | bove2: what kernel did you use? |
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| 21:17.10 | bove2 | Don't remember the name. It's linked from qtopia pages. Think it's called "some guys custom kernel" |
| 21:17.41 | gurugentoo | bove2: awesome |
| 21:18.28 | bove2 | ? |
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| 21:19.20 | lindi- | bove2: gdb is the gnu debugger |
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| 21:22.05 | yabo | hai |
| 21:22.10 | yabo | im installing debian now |
| 21:22.17 | yabo | and im confused by the wikipage |
| 21:22.46 | yabo | i ran SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh all |
| 21:22.48 | yabo | to install |
| 21:22.57 | yabo | what do i do when it is done? |
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| 21:24.30 | yabo | If you have installed your Debian with vfat as the boot partition file system, you can use the standard "Boot from SD (fat+ext2)" entry from the NAND uBoot and skip reading this chapter. If not, you need to modify your uBoot environment. |
| 21:24.58 | yabo | i just use the standard "Boot from SD (fat+ext2)" -entry from NAND? since i did SD_PART1_FS=vfat |
| 21:24.58 | yabo | ? |
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| 21:31.15 | lindi- | yabo: yeah? |
| 21:34.48 | yabo | alright thanks |
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| 21:46.27 | lindi- | hrm, now i need to figure out how to get error messages from uboot to PC. "set console to USB" will wait for 1 second and then switch back to main menu |
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| 21:50.17 | Dave | Hi Lindi |
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| 21:58.45 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03werner * r4711 10/developers/werner/wlan-spi/patches/ (gta02-mmc-mci.patch hif-direct-interrupt.patch series): |
| 21:58.45 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - series, gta02-mmc-mci.patch: added platform glue to use the S3C MCI driver |
| 21:58.45 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - hif-direct-interrupt.patch: made use of direct interrupt configurable |
| 21:58.45 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - hif-direct-interrupt.patch: removed useless attempt to set ECSI (interrupt |
| 21:58.46 | CIA-22 | openmoko: signaling even when nSS is inactive) |
| 21:59.56 | lindi- | and somehow the uboot console also works oddly with picocom |
| 22:02.12 | mwester | uboot does not like characters sent to it too quickly. Search for "neocon" on the mailing lists; someone wrote a program that's sorta like cu but can limit the send rate of characters to uboot. |
| 22:02.25 | lindi- | mwester: rright |
| 22:02.32 | lindi- | mwester: gnu screen can do that fortunately |
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| 22:03.15 | mwester | good. works best if you keep the send rate below 30 / second -- I usually set it to 10/sec and things work much better. |
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| 22:04.59 | lindi- | if i only could find the command to do it, i know man screen mentions it |
| 22:06.16 | lindi- | ^a : slowpaste 100 RET |
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| 22:08.43 | lindi- | 1757784 bytes read |
| 22:08.44 | lindi- | Wrong Image Format for bootm command |
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| 22:11.50 | mwester | oops |
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| 22:20.17 | yabo | so i just booted debian for the first time |
| 22:20.22 | yabo | oh nvm |
| 22:20.48 | yabo | no |
| 22:20.53 | yabo | no.. |
| 22:21.06 | lindi- | hmm, X works, touchscreen works. buttons don't work. usbnet does not work :P i guess i messed something in the linux configuration |
| 22:21.57 | lindi- | no, buttons work |
| 22:22.04 | yabo | you using debian too? |
| 22:22.07 | yabo | its slooooow |
| 22:22.14 | lindi- | sure, how else could i do development? |
| 22:22.21 | yabo | i just booted for the first time |
| 22:22.27 | lindi- | yabo: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev? |
| 22:22.53 | yabo | ? |
| 22:23.06 | yabo | x runs, touchscreen works, buttons worked |
| 22:23.17 | yabo | oh yay |
| 22:23.19 | yabo | buttons work again |
| 22:23.38 | yabo | god this is slow |
| 22:24.02 | yabo | umm |
| 22:24.10 | yabo | x just closed |
| 22:24.13 | yabo | and i got a loginprompt.. :P |
| 22:24.15 | lindi- | yabo: are you using xserver-xorg-video-fbdev package? |
| 22:24.35 | yabo | no idea |
| 22:24.38 | yabo | im using http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh |
| 22:25.45 | yabo | out of all the distros ive tried |
| 22:26.13 | yabo | qtopia is the only one i havent been reeeally annoyed by |
| 22:26.45 | lindi- | yabo: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-fbdev |
| 22:26.56 | Tm_T | yabo: have you tried Xtextended ? |
| 22:27.33 | yabo | i dont know Tm_T |
| 22:27.42 | yabo | do you mean qtextended 4.4.1? |
| 22:27.46 | Tm_T | yes |
| 22:27.49 | yabo | if so, yeah im using that |
| 22:27.51 | yabo | love it |
| 22:27.57 | Tm_T | I see |
| 22:28.44 | yabo | i thought debian ran kde.. :p |
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| 22:29.46 | yabo | i cant ssh to my phone anymore, lindi- |
| 22:29.55 | yabo | on debian that is |
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| 22:30.27 | lindi- | yabo: network settings wrong probably |
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| 22:30.44 | lindi- | i am trying to figure out what modules i need to make usb network work. |
| 22:31.03 | lindi- | CONFIG_USB_USBNET=y and cdc_ether module is loaded, so is ohci-hcd |
| 22:31.06 | yabo | ah there we go |
| 22:31.09 | lindi- | but 'lsmod' on desktop does not show it |
| 22:31.24 | lindi- | i must be forgetting something now |
| 22:31.28 | yabo | the " Simple Manual Linux Configuration " from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking works for me |
| 22:31.40 | yabo | iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 22:31.40 | yabo | sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 |
| 22:31.40 | yabo | ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 |
| 22:31.43 | yabo | ifconfig usb0 up |
| 22:31.48 | yabo | after that it works for me |
| 22:32.28 | yabo | btw |
| 22:32.41 | yabo | dpkg -l | greå xserver-xorg-video-fbdev: |
| 22:33.05 | yabo | ii xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 1:0.4.0-1 X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver |
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| 22:33.48 | yabo | so |
| 22:33.48 | lindi- | yabo: yeah, you can't expect that to be ast |
| 22:34.04 | yabo | is there an onscreen keyboard for debian? |
| 22:34.15 | lindi- | yabo: apt-get install matchbox-keyboard |
| 22:34.21 | yabo | so i can open a terminal n the touchscreen |
| 22:35.31 | yabo | umm |
| 22:35.38 | yabo | -bash: ping: command not found |
| 22:35.40 | yabo | oØ |
| 22:35.41 | yabo | ? |
| 22:35.54 | lindi- | yabo: just install it? |
| 22:36.23 | yabo | well |
| 22:36.30 | yabo | oh there we go |
| 22:36.38 | yabo | thought intarwebz didnt work |
| 22:36.46 | yabo | but it was just slow |
| 22:37.16 | yabo | do you know how i can open an onscreen terminal? |
| 22:37.34 | lindi- | yabo: look at matchbox-keyboard-toggle |
| 22:39.09 | yabo | i dont understand |
| 22:39.21 | lindi- | yabo: look at the file matchbox-keyboard-toggle |
| 22:40.48 | yabo | so how do i start it on the phone? i cant really do anything with the touchscreen.. im stuck at some speed-dial or something |
| 22:41.06 | yabo | and i cant start it with the usb-shell can i? |
| 22:41.10 | yabo | nothing seems to happen when i try |
| 22:41.25 | yabo | or rather, the mainloop starts |
| 22:41.30 | yabo | but no keyboard pops up |
| 22:41.33 | lindi- | yabo: if you read the file you'll see how you can start it :) |
| 22:41.47 | yabo | oh look. theres the keyboard :P |
| 22:42.05 | yabo | hit the AUX-button and it popped up |
| 22:42.11 | lindi- | yep |
| 22:42.18 | lindi- | that's what matchbox-keyboard-toggle does |
| 22:42.24 | yabo | oh i see |
| 22:42.37 | yabo | so what about that terminal? |
| 22:43.45 | lindi- | ctrl-alt-x is supposed to start xterm |
| 22:43.57 | lindi- | but it does not work for everyone, we are trying to figure out why |
| 22:43.57 | yabo | yeah it did, thank you! |
| 22:44.03 | yabo | oh |
| 22:44.13 | yabo | works for me |
| 22:44.18 | yabo | this keyboard is great by the way |
| 22:44.20 | lindi- | bugs.debian.org/matchbox-keyboard has it |
| 22:44.35 | yabo | beats everything 2008.8 and qtopia comes with |
| 22:45.09 | yabo | anyway |
| 22:45.26 | yabo | is there a start using debian for dummies -paper or something? |
| 22:47.42 | lindi- | yabo: in general? |
| 22:47.46 | lindi- | yabo: or openmoko specific? |
| 22:48.02 | yabo | openmoko yeah |
| 22:48.15 | yabo | stuff i should do now that its up and running and such |
| 22:48.19 | lindi- | yabo: your best bet is to follow the wiki, irc channels and mailing lists |
| 22:48.35 | lindi- | yabo: and read the source code of the packages, report bugs and ask questions :) |
| 22:48.39 | yabo | :P |
| 22:48.42 | yabo | alright thanks |
| 22:48.49 | lindi- | there's #openmoko-debian |
| 22:48.59 | yabo | i saw an image of kde btw |
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| 22:49.15 | Dave | Howdy ya'll |
| 22:49.29 | lindi- | yabo: sure you can run it if you want |
| 22:49.41 | lindi- | i just prefer minimalism |
| 22:49.46 | yabo | how do i do that? |
| 22:49.50 | lindi- | less moving parts :) |
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| 22:51.14 | slaxxin | qt extended looks so ,how do i put it?? |
| 22:51.23 | slaxxin | polished |
| 22:51.47 | yabo | it is rather fantastic, slaxxin |
| 22:51.58 | slaxxin | no more extra batteries needed |
| 22:52.14 | yabo | except for some locking sometimes |
| 22:52.27 | yabo | sometimes when you get a "yes / no" -prompt for example |
| 22:52.37 | yabo | like when you try to delete stuff |
| 22:52.39 | slaxxin | i think my sound quit once |
| 22:52.47 | yabo | sometimes you cant hit anything |
| 22:52.56 | yabo | anyway |
| 22:53.08 | yabo | lindi-, how can i get/start kde? |
| 22:53.33 | lindi- | yabo: i would practice that first on a desktop system |
| 22:53.38 | slaxxin | which gps program do we use? |
| 22:54.02 | yabo | alright |
| 22:54.15 | yabo | do you know how i can close this speed-dial thing then? |
| 22:54.15 | lindi- | i'm off to sleep now, long day of testing qemubuilder+distcc+cross compiler combination behind ;) |
| 22:54.24 | slaxxin | something more lightweight |
| 22:54.26 | yabo | got 4 big numbered buttons |
| 22:54.30 | yabo | that wont go away |
| 22:54.34 | lindi- | yabo: it's the screenlock |
| 22:54.38 | yabo | oh |
| 22:54.39 | lindi- | click 1 2 3 4 to unlock |
| 22:54.42 | lindi- | read the source ;) |
| 22:54.43 | slaxxin | lolol |
| 22:54.49 | mwester | yabo: you broke it, you'll have to send the phone to me. |
| 22:54.58 | yabo | ok hehe, thanks.. :p |
| 22:55.02 | slaxxin | havent seen that yet |
| 22:55.10 | yabo | how come |
| 22:55.13 | slaxxin | fso style locker? |
| 22:55.22 | yabo | so many of the buttons dont work? the picture of a phone and all that stuff |
| 22:55.26 | yabo | how can i enable them? |
| 22:58.27 | slaxxin | i guess the gps software is not quite ready ? |
| 22:58.54 | slaxxin | they going to stick with 3rd party for that? |
| 22:59.46 | slaxxin | will the mapping deme ever get a fix? |
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