| 00:04.22 | *** part/#openmoko djbclark (i=djbclark@CMLAB-4.MIT.EDU) |
| 00:04.26 | pois0n` | can i use the openmoko with any carrier |
| 00:04.58 | slaxxin | yup i think so |
| 00:05.33 | mwester | Any GSM carrier, that is ;) |
| 00:05.50 | slaxxin | whos not? |
| 00:05.57 | pois0n` | GSM is verizon? |
| 00:05.59 | pois0n` | or sprint |
| 00:06.04 | mwester | Neither |
| 00:06.06 | pois0n` | i know those are 2 diff types |
| 00:06.19 | mwester | In the US, it's AT&T and T-Mobile, mainly. |
| 00:06.22 | pois0n` | whats GSM then, i dont know much about phones |
| 00:06.25 | pois0n` | ok |
| 00:06.31 | mwester | ~gsm |
| 00:06.31 | apt | [gsm] a codec, operating at approx 13kbps up/down. four bands worldwide. 850/900/1900/1800MHz. Freerunner comes in two variants, one supporting 900, one 850. 900 is used in europe, and 850 in US. The other two bands in both. |
| 00:06.56 | mwester | An international standard that describes everything about how a cell phone talks to the network. |
| 00:07.37 | pois0n` | how much is an open moko retail |
| 00:08.01 | mwester | Dunno. The openmoko commercial site might say: www.openmoko.com |
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| 00:45.38 | rwhitby | morning |
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| 00:52.30 | bmidgley | debian on neo1973... do I need to hack in the gllin stuff? |
| 00:52.50 | bmidgley | gps "app" in fso doesn't get a fix |
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| 00:59.38 | Pyrasi | anyone know how to tell qtopia where to look for music or documents? |
| 00:59.50 | rwhitby | bmidgley: yes, you need gllin |
| 01:00.06 | rwhitby | there is no replacement for gllin on gta01 that I know of |
| 01:00.33 | bmidgley | rwhitby: are there docs for how to add it in properly |
| 01:00.35 | rwhitby | frameworkd can read the output of gllin and turn it into dbus signals |
| 01:00.57 | rwhitby | bmidgley: nope. I expect you can untar the .ipk's data.tar.gz |
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| 01:02.34 | bmidgley | the "gps" info for debian says to install xfce, fso-gpsd, and tangogps |
| 01:02.53 | bmidgley | is there a gui hook to launch tangogps? |
| 01:03.18 | ljp | Pyrasi: put them in ~/Documents or /media/card/Documents |
| 01:03.37 | Pyrasi | hmm...so you cant specify other locations to look? |
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| 01:07.32 | ljp | you can, but youd have to edit the Storage.conf file |
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| 01:14.51 | raster | pants on |
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| 01:43.10 | Dave | engage? |
| 01:45.44 | raster | engages pants |
| 01:46.18 | Dave | :D |
| 01:48.09 | Dave | engages illume keyboard |
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| 02:46.07 | Dave | Hmm |
| 02:46.15 | Dave | It's quiet... too quiet... |
| 02:47.45 | Ken_Young | Try booting your neo connect to the USB with no battery then. |
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| 02:49.58 | Dave | Ken! |
| 02:50.10 | Dave | :) |
| 02:50.15 | Ken_Young | Hi Dave. |
| 02:50.17 | Dave | and hellow, mickey :) |
| 02:50.23 | Dave | Ken, and new developments? |
| 02:51.03 | Ken_Young | What sort of developmnets? |
| 02:51.16 | Dave | Actually, there was this very similar looking, astronomy software apparently not yours, developed for what looked like a KDE nokia phone. |
| 02:51.24 | Dave | If I find the image on scap again, I'll like it to you. |
| 02:51.29 | Dave | Otherwise, I know it's still on there :) |
| 02:52.06 | Ken_Young | If you have a URL for that, I'd like to look at it, and steal all the author's ideas. |
| 02:52.25 | Dave | haha |
| 02:52.26 | Dave | yeah :D |
| 02:52.36 | Dave | It looked pretty slick ;) |
| 02:52.46 | Ken_Young | Do you remember its name? |
| 02:52.53 | Dave | No, sorry :| |
| 02:52.59 | FxChiP|errands | Give me FreeRunner |
| 02:53.00 | Dave | it was far lamer than yours though :) |
| 02:53.09 | Dave | pelts fxchip with freerunners |
| 02:53.14 | Dave | Take that! |
| 02:53.15 | Ken_Young | My poor code is not slick yet. More like number 40 sandpaper. |
| 02:53.16 | FxChiP | catches them gratefulluy |
| 02:53.18 | FxChiP | gratefully* |
| 02:53.21 | Dave | Nooooooooo |
| 02:53.25 | Dave | damnit :P |
| 02:53.45 | FxChiP | damnit? |
| 02:54.03 | Dave | My plan backfired. |
| 02:54.11 | Ken_Young | What plan was that? |
| 02:54.33 | Dave | To inflict damange and demean his spirit? |
| 02:54.35 | Dave | or something |
| 02:54.37 | Dave | rolls his eyes |
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| 03:22.43 | bricode | Dave: Don't you ever sleep? |
| 03:23.21 | bricode | behdad: You don't happen to be from Toronto? |
| 03:25.30 | slaxxin | right ther did u see it |
| 03:25.57 | slaxxin | he had his eyes closed |
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| 03:31.08 | Ken_Young | Does anyone know a command I can issue on the Freerunner which will list all the available X11 fonts? |
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| 03:32.46 | Dave | Sleep? |
| 03:33.05 | Dave | Ken, changing the fonts? -- Cool, let me know if you ever figure out how to. |
| 03:34.12 | Ken_Young | I'm trying to use a second font within my program, but I need to know which fonts are available. |
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| 03:44.06 | mickey|tw | fc-list |
| 03:44.11 | mickey|tw | , if that's installed |
| 03:44.32 | Ken_Young | mickey|tw, Yeah, I tried that. It isn't there. |
| 03:44.52 | Ken_Young | mickey|tw, Is there a package I can load which contains that? |
| 03:45.00 | mickey|tw | no idea offhand |
| 03:45.08 | mickey|tw | will check in OE when i have a chance |
| 03:45.18 | Ken_Young | Thanks! |
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| 03:49.21 | Dave | :D |
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| 04:00.48 | mickey|tw | Ken_Young: fontconfig-utils |
| 04:03.13 | Ken_Young | mickey|tw, No file with that name seems to exist on my phone, at least with the 2007.2 stack. Should I look on my phone with 2008.9 installed? |
| 04:03.55 | mickey|tw | i don't know which distro is actually shipping this file |
| 04:03.59 | mickey|tw | it should be in the feeds though |
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| 04:04.46 | mickey|tw | e.g. http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/feeds/armv4t/fontconfig-utils_2.4.1-r3_armv4t.ipk |
| 04:05.55 | Ken_Young | mickey|tw, Thanks very much for tracking that down for me. |
| 04:06.19 | mickey|tw | np |
| 04:06.30 | Dave | :o |
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| 04:13.00 | j4v4m4n | can I disable gpg check? |
| 04:13.20 | j4v4m4n | opkg update tries to download sugnature from Multiverse |
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| 04:25.44 | j4v4m4n | the micro sd card is shown as /dev/sdb1 |
| 04:26.30 | j4v4m4n | is this something normal? most documents say /dev/mmcblk0 |
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| 04:26.47 | behdad | bricode: I actually am |
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| 04:36.53 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r0e81df51f0e5 10/framework/resource.py: |
| 04:36.53 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: resource handling: if ousaged is not present at runtime, start with |
| 04:36.53 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: the resource enabled, otherwise we have no chance to turn it on. |
| 04:36.53 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r6e9c755c6e88 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 04:36.54 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: classes derived from AbstractModemChannel now need the parent |
| 04:36.56 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 'modem' to be supplied in init (as keyword argument). |
| 04:36.58 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: implement org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device methods: |
| 04:37.00 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: * GetSimBuffersSms() -> (b) |
| 04:37.02 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: * SetSimBuffersSms(b) -> () |
| 04:37.04 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: Note: This is only working for TI Calypso atm., please catch up in the |
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| 04:42.32 | j4v4m4n | ok I got it. I was trying it with the Adapter on my laptop before |
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| 04:42.59 | Pyrasi | lpotter or ljp, is there going to be a newer kernel released to work with the new qtopia image? The old one still mounts the sd card into the wrong place after a suspend. =( |
| 04:43.37 | Pyrasi | which makes the media player alittle less useable. =/ |
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| 04:50.55 | ljp | Pyrasi: I put mwesters kernels at qtopia.net |
| 04:51.01 | Dave | :) |
| 04:51.11 | ljp | or a link |
| 04:51.22 | Dave | can't we just use the latest from dl.om too? |
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| 05:00.03 | ljp | sure |
| 05:00.48 | Dave | Good |
| 05:00.52 | Dave | that's what we did this afternoon :) |
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| 05:05.02 | Pyrasi | ljp: does media player work for you? |
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| 05:07.44 | ljp | for mp3's yes. but its not good |
| 05:08.21 | Dave | does it close? |
| 05:08.56 | Pyrasi | oh...okay...nevermind....im just still getting errors from the card being mounted somewhere else....and im not sure where now...lol |
| 05:09.15 | ljp | Dave: yes it should |
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| 05:10.32 | Tetracomm | Hello. |
| 05:12.16 | ljp | hi |
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| 05:12.57 | Dave | :P |
| 05:13.04 | Dave | ze kaizer |
| 05:15.34 | ieatlint | hey dave |
| 05:16.01 | FxChiP | will brb |
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| 05:17.46 | Pyrasi | Dave: You mentioned that you were using the latest om kernel with the new qtopia image...does everything work alright? |
| 05:17.54 | Tetracomm | How close do you think the Openmoko is to the Iphone? |
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| 05:19.09 | Ken_Young | Tetracomm, Not very close. It's really aimed at a different user. |
| 05:19.23 | Tetracomm | Ok. |
| 05:19.29 | Tetracomm | Which operating system does it use? |
| 05:19.47 | Ken_Young | Tetracomm, It uses linux. |
| 05:20.09 | Tetracomm | I know, but, which distribution is it based on? |
| 05:20.47 | Ken_Young | Tetracomm, Openembedded. |
| 05:20.47 | Tetracomm | Ok. |
| 05:20.47 | Tetracomm | How much does it cost? |
| 05:21.00 | Ken_Young | The phone itself, or the software? |
| 05:21.11 | Tetracomm | The phone itself. |
| 05:21.12 | ljp | using qtopia it is _really_ close to the iPhone |
| 05:21.56 | Pyrasi | Dave or ljp: if i use the latest om kernel instead of the mwester ones...is there a downside? |
| 05:22.19 | ljp | not as good of suspend/resume |
| 05:22.28 | Ken_Young | Tetracomm, THe price is $399.00 US. |
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| 05:23.01 | Tetracomm | Ok. |
| 05:23.16 | Tetracomm | I wonder how durable it is. |
| 05:23.40 | ljp | well. it looksl ike a hockey puk,. so it might just be durable |
| 05:23.44 | Ken_Young | Tetracomm, Here's a link to where the distribution is described: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page |
| 05:24.11 | Tetracomm | Thank you. |
| 05:24.41 | Ken_Young | Tetracomm, One advantage of the openmoko phone is that CAD files for the unit are available, so you can make your own case if you need something extra durable. |
| 05:25.05 | Tetracomm | Nice. |
| 05:25.10 | Tetracomm | Make my own case? |
| 05:25.11 | ljp | ya, make a titanium case |
| 05:25.29 | Tetracomm | That sounds complicated, but nice. |
| 05:25.29 | ljp | or a clear plastic one |
| 05:25.45 | unknown_lamer | hmm did koolu ever tool the debian tartan cases? |
| 05:25.48 | mwester | The latter might be better, considering the antenna for the GSM is internal. |
| 05:25.48 | ljp | wood might be nice too |
| 05:26.04 | mwester | burl |
| 05:26.23 | mwester | It would match my Rolls Royce interior that way. |
| 05:26.32 | ljp | but it has an external gsm antenna connctor too |
| 05:27.05 | unknown_lamer | ljp: the gsm antenna connector is made for at most 500 insertions |
| 05:27.15 | unknown_lamer | (it was a test connector according to the ML) |
| 05:27.22 | unknown_lamer | and "consequences are unknown if it breaks" |
| 05:27.22 | Tetracomm | What type of Rolls-Royce is that? |
| 05:27.41 | mwester | Dunno. I'd have to ask my chauffer. |
| 05:27.42 | mwester | sp? |
| 05:27.52 | mwester | Let me have the butler go find him. |
| 05:28.11 | ljp | ya, distract the butler while you wonk on the maid |
| 05:28.39 | Pyrasi | hmm....strange if i use the newest mwester kernel with gt-extended, the battery icon doesnt seem to work. |
| 05:28.45 | mwester | nah, I just take my neo to the pub, and the girls just climb all over me. ;) |
| 05:29.29 | mwester | Pyrasi: unplug, leave it for a bit, plug it back in -- see if it doesn't work then... |
| 05:30.35 | Dave | MWester strikes again |
| 05:30.55 | mwester | Actually, the hockey puck plastic look matches the interior of my cheapo American car very nicely. |
| 05:31.05 | Dave | haha |
| 05:31.08 | Dave | :) |
| 05:31.35 | Pyrasi | mwester: mine too ;) (see www.bufferunderflow.com for a pic if you dont believe me =P) |
| 05:32.27 | Pyrasi | mwester: hmm...well when i plug it in, the battery icon shows that it is charging, but it always shows the battery as empty when it is unplugged |
| 05:33.13 | mwester | Yep, something changed in the kernel I think. |
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| 05:33.39 | mwester | but the apm interface to read the battery state is going away anyway, so it's doubtful that'll get changed. |
| 05:34.07 | Pyrasi | oh really? what is going to be used in place of apm? |
| 05:34.18 | Pyrasi | the dbus stuff? |
| 05:34.27 | ljp | ya, why woudl they ever want to be compatible with apps that still use apm |
| 05:34.35 | mwester | The same kernel event mechanism that is used by 2008.9 and FSO |
| 05:34.41 | ljp | apm is just so old skool |
| 05:34.52 | mwester | Like, everybody uses it. |
| 05:35.10 | mwester | But the truth is that it doesn't show what we need on the FR anyway. |
| 05:35.45 | ljp | perhaps. |
| 05:35.55 | ljp | but the api is much simplier |
| 05:36.03 | ljp | kinda like oss vs alsa |
| 05:36.25 | mwester | Pyrasi: what kernel were you running earlier - do you have the full version id string or name of the uImage file? |
| 05:36.35 | mwester | ljp: that's certainly true too. |
| 05:36.46 | mwester | I still don't understand alsa. |
| 05:38.38 | Dave | uggh alsa |
| 05:42.15 | Pyrasi | mwester: the one that wasnt reporting the battery correctly? |
| 05:42.25 | Pyrasi | or the one i was running previous to that one? |
| 05:42.40 | mwester | Well the one that you think was working correctly. |
| 05:43.35 | mwester | If you have something that can identify it, I can see what patches have been applied between then and now, and that'll provide a clue as to what changed. |
| 05:43.57 | mwester | Otherwise, the answer we'll get back will be very simple: "Don't use APM". |
| 05:43.59 | Pyrasi | i actually just flashed back to it, and the battery in it is working correctly. It is uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin |
| 05:44.07 | mwester | Thanks... |
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| 05:48.02 | Pyrasi | mwester: if its any help, its the one that was packaged with the older version of qtopia on their page. |
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| 05:53.24 | Pyrasi | ljp: how do you connect to a wireless network on the new qtopia? i thought i read somewhere that it could interface with the wireless? |
| 05:55.55 | ljp | settings->internet->options menu->new->wireless network |
| 05:56.20 | Pyrasi | ohh...cool. |
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| 05:58.07 | Tetracomm | The OpenMoko plays OGG? |
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| 06:01.37 | rooly | so... |
| 06:01.46 | rooly | qtopia 4.4.1 anybody? |
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| 06:12.54 | soltys | wurp2|gone: i fixt that... time-man (time-tool) chas changed my timezone for the correct one but openmoko-toady was segfaulting after opening that file in /usr/share/zoneionfo |
| 06:16.19 | ljp | there is no qtopia 4.4.1 |
| 06:16.28 | rooly | sure? |
| 06:16.29 | ljp | its qt extended 4.4.1 :) |
| 06:16.35 | rooly | right |
| 06:16.38 | rooly | so... |
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| 06:17.00 | rooly | what's the word |
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| 06:20.21 | methril | morning |
| 06:21.22 | Pyrasi | rooly: I just flashed 4.4.1 |
| 06:21.26 | Pyrasi | seems alright... |
| 06:21.35 | Pyrasi | there are a few bugs |
| 06:21.39 | Pyrasi | for sure |
| 06:21.58 | Pyrasi | (see mailinglist for most of them) |
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| 06:36.24 | rooly | seriously... |
| 06:36.29 | rooly | can't ANYONE get bluetooth working? |
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| 06:39.31 | gromez | Pyrasi: yeah, there are some annoying bugs like the echo problem :/ |
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| 06:48.29 | gromez | latest mwester kernel works fine with qtextended, even 8GB µSD works without doing anything :) |
| 06:48.49 | Kensan | morning |
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| 06:49.04 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * rccd603cb6407 10/src/zhone: fix typo, thanks to flyser |
| 06:49.06 | Kensan | raster: I got the illume build working with some help from #oe |
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| 06:50.41 | Kensan | raster: It seems that the variable OMDIR is not set when local.conf is read in/processed eventhough it is exported in setup-env. So defining it at the top of local.conf makes it work. |
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| 06:51.53 | Kensan | raster: and patch 0011 is not needed anymore, since it got fixed upstream. |
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| 07:09.21 | gromez | is there a way to tell qtextended to store messages in the phone instead of the SIM card ? |
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| 07:32.10 | Rupert_ | Can anybody here give me a few tips on debugging the Linux Kernel in FR? |
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| 07:39.13 | Rupert_ | Please; Any tips at all on debugging the FR Kernel |
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| 08:00.01 | Rupert_ | Can anybody tell me how I totally clear the flash of the FR? I had 2008.9 in it and had some groups defined in Contacts. Flashed in [FSO] and then back to [2008.9] and I've still got my groups. Surprised by that. Want to make sure I start from a clean place |
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| 08:12.32 | Kensan__ | raster: ping |
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| 08:41.00 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03marek * r4691 10/trunk/src/host/pye17/codegen/ (argtypes.py codegen.py h2def.py): |
| 08:41.00 | CIA-22 | openmoko: remove debugging output |
| 08:41.00 | CIA-22 | openmoko: help the parser to match "of-object" contructs |
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| 08:52.45 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4692 10/developers/erin_yueh/20070419_N7.19_obj_rel-moko4.rar: GSM firmware moko4 source code |
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| 09:12.30 | Kensan__ | Does anybody know for which chip that GSM Firmware is that just got commited by erin_yueh? |
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| 09:14.04 | Kensan__ | Hm interesting, it seems to be for the TI Calypso... |
| 09:14.27 | ronny | http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ <- can anyone please apply that to openmoko? |
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| 09:26.29 | Zephurr | Goodday |
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| 09:34.09 | quickdev | Ainulindale, here? |
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| 09:41.21 | Zephurr | Question: Where can I find the latest code? I'm not sure that svn.openmoko.com has the most recent code. |
| 09:41.31 | Zephurr | or am I wrong? |
| 09:44.36 | Kensan__ | Zephurr: what specifically are you looking for? |
| 09:44.53 | Kensan__ | Zephurr: there's also http://git.openmoko.org/ |
| 09:45.06 | Kensan__ | Zephurr: FSO is at http://git.freesmartphone.org/ |
| 09:45.07 | Zephurr | Well. when I look in the SVN, I can see om2007. not om2008 |
| 09:46.02 | Zephurr | I am not looking for something in particular. I just want to check out the code to see if I can make something myself. |
| 09:47.14 | Zephurr | I hope I am not embarrassing myself here. |
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| 09:47.57 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4693 10/developers/erin_yueh/20070419_N7.19_obj_rel-moko4.rar: remove it |
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| 09:57.34 | Zephurr | What I basically want to do is to change the aux button to do something else than just lock it. |
| 09:58.02 | TAsn | Zephurr, what distro? |
| 09:58.03 | Zephurr | Maybe have it change keyboards, I dont know yet. It is basically to get me started on development. |
| 09:58.12 | Zephurr | Om2008.9 |
| 09:58.14 | TAsn | because with debian\fso it should not be that hard. |
| 09:58.19 | TAsn | i c. |
| 09:58.24 | TAsn | no idea, haven't tried that. |
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| 10:02.05 | Zephurr | So, am I correct in thinking that the applications I use on Om2008.9 can be found in trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications ? |
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| 10:02.20 | data_jepp | Anyone, quick? When is the next qtopia image out? |
| 10:03.58 | data_jepp | C`mon, i got a lecture in like 10 min here ^^ |
| 10:04.21 | Zephurr | does not know |
| 10:04.54 | gromez | data_jepp: 4.4.1 is available |
| 10:04.58 | max_posedon | data_jepp, You recived new version yesterday, and now asking abount next?) |
| 10:05.12 | max_posedon | gromez, actualy "System info" says, that it is 4.4.2) |
| 10:06.22 | gromez | max_posedon: right :) |
| 10:07.19 | data_jepp | Dont know, because the qtopia page that is linked directly to from the openmoko wiki is down. :/ |
| 10:07.33 | gromez | data_jepp: qtextended.org |
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| 10:08.27 | max_posedon | Direct link from openmoko.org to qtopia image works for me. |
| 10:08.52 | data_jepp | Oh, nice... Hmm funny. Well, one lecture. Workout, then home and update the phone. Party! |
| 10:09.42 | TAsn | im experiencing something very weird |
| 10:09.51 | TAsn | running duke3d from ssh works |
| 10:09.59 | data_jepp | lol |
| 10:10.00 | TAsn | though running with the launcher does not. |
| 10:10.19 | TAsn | though running with the launcher calls my script for sure |
| 10:10.25 | TAsn | since it changes resolution. |
| 10:10.35 | TAsn | so i can't see where it fails |
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| 10:12.21 | Raigedas | why debian does not use swap that i created for him on SD card? |
| 10:12.44 | TAsn | Raigedas, swapon? |
| 10:12.52 | TAsn | im off. |
| 10:13.07 | Raigedas | shouldnt linux automaticaly find swap partition and use it? |
| 10:13.23 | Raigedas | ok, i will try swapon |
| 10:13.36 | max_posedon | no, Linux isn't like a google) |
| 10:13.57 | max_posedon | You should just properly configure /etc/fstab I think. |
| 10:14.10 | Raigedas | ou really.. |
| 10:16.39 | ieatlint | do you really want a swap partition? |
| 10:17.11 | ieatlint | bear in mind, the life of the sd card will be significantly reduced by hosting a swap partition |
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| 10:17.44 | ieatlint | and unless you're really spiking the FR's memory, the gains will be minimal -- especially considering the throughput you can get from an sd card (and that it would take up bandwidth on the bus) |
| 10:19.34 | Zephurr | I usually make a ramdisk and put the swapfile on there. |
| 10:19.42 | Zephurr | Very fast too! |
| 10:19.45 | Kensan__ | Interesting, erin yuen just reverted the commit of the GSM source... |
| 10:20.10 | mjr | "oops" |
| 10:20.19 | mjr | but really, I do hope OM won't get into shit for that... |
| 10:21.02 | Kensan__ | mjr: yeah, and he should actually block that revision otherwise it is still accesible |
| 10:22.36 | mjr | sosomeone really should tell him that, methinks... |
| 10:24.49 | ieatlint | Zephurr, making a ramdisk to host a swap partition kinda defeats the purpose |
| 10:25.29 | ieatlint | a swap partition is used to store part of RAM that the system doesn't think will be used much, or anytime soon... thus allowing more RAM to be available for other apps |
| 10:25.34 | Zephurr | snickers |
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| 10:25.38 | ieatlint | hehe, ok |
| 10:25.43 | ieatlint | :P |
| 10:25.53 | ieatlint | hard to tell sarcasm online sometimes ;) |
| 10:26.06 | Zephurr | True. My apologies. |
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| 10:26.38 | ieatlint | nah, had i need been into a couple beers, i might've simply realised, hehe |
| 10:27.32 | mjr | on some (ancient) hardware that actually makes sense, though - eg. if part of the memory isn't cached, stick a ramdisk in there, swap on it |
| 10:28.33 | Zephurr | Eitherhow, I am still having a spot of trouble finding out how I should start development. Would anyone care to talk me through the basics? |
| 10:29.01 | Kensan__ | mjr: I told mickey, I think he will take care of it. |
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| 10:45.33 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * re2ea88b39a2d 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ubx.py: ogpsd.ubx: add simple debug interface |
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| 10:55.38 | Raigedas | ieatlint, yes i know that lifetime of SD will be greatly reduced if i use swap. |
| 10:56.34 | Raigedas | just i am unable to use one program - it takes too long even to start. |
| 10:56.55 | Raigedas | so i thoght maybe swap wouldd help here. |
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| 11:01.21 | APz | Raigedas: aren't micro-sdhc's wear leveling by default? |
| 11:01.29 | Raigedas | ieatlint, and also.. though gains are limited because of throughput of SD card, but keep in mind also that swap on SD has one advantage - it does not add aditional delay for head seek time as on hdds |
| 11:01.33 | APz | all you need to do, is set swappiness so it won't swap for fun and sport |
| 11:02.13 | APz | I have 256 megabyte swap in mine, and the swappiness set to such extremes, that it'll only swap when there's absolutely no other option available |
| 11:02.59 | Raigedas | i never heard about swappiness. where should i set that? |
| 11:03.27 | APz | it's vm.swappiness sysctl value |
| 11:03.58 | Wonka | Kensan__: maybe people have already mirrored that file... |
| 11:04.37 | Raigedas | APz, thanks i will try |
| 11:06.06 | Kensan__ | Wonka: well I hope this issue gets resolved smoothly because that could cause some serious trouble I believe... |
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| 11:06.45 | Kensan__ | Wonka: Well let them deal with it and let's not make a big rukkus about it. |
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| 11:16.52 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * re727b4a7144b 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ubx.py: ogpsd.ubx: use the correct dbus signature |
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| 11:21.43 | rwhitby | Kensan_: looks like that revision has already been removed |
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| 11:26.00 | rwhitby | ah, they just rolled the repo back to 4691 - smart. |
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| 11:41.47 | Raigedas | i see that it is bad idea to run java software on FR/debian... |
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| 11:46.29 | Zephurr | finds mokomakefile |
| 11:48.25 | Zephurr | mokomakefile: ZOMG! its retardproof! |
| 11:48.53 | Zephurr | Or I make a bad retard... |
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| 11:51.54 | APz | Zephurr: if you don't fail at first, try again for epic fail. |
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| 11:54.57 | Xecuter | hi! are there any debian guys here? |
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| 11:55.37 | jones | hello folks |
| 11:55.47 | [df] | I am a guy who is running debian, if that helps |
| 11:56.20 | APz | ditto here |
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| 11:56.59 | Xecuter | cool |
| 11:57.22 | Xecuter | just got myself a 8GB and i'm going to install debian |
| 11:57.28 | Raigedas | Xecuter, yes |
| 11:57.33 | Raigedas | i did that |
| 11:57.48 | Raigedas | exactly on 8GB |
| 11:57.56 | Xecuter | if tried it before, but there wasn't enough space for me to really use it so i ordered a 8 GB |
| 11:58.08 | APz | mine's on 4 gigabyte card |
| 11:58.09 | Raigedas | yes:) |
| 11:58.11 | rwhitby | Zephurr: don't worry, there are people who still can't get mokomakefile to work for them ... |
| 11:58.12 | Xecuter | but is there phone and SMS capabillity? |
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| 11:58.51 | Xecuter | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions says that additional software needs to be installed? |
| 11:58.51 | Raigedas | Xecuter, yes it is, unfortunatelly it is very unstable, at least for me |
| 11:58.54 | Zephurr | rwhitby, Just a though: Add a simple echo at the bottom: "It worked" |
| 11:59.31 | Zephurr | rwhitby, Or if you want to make people nervous: "Kernel modules installed, have a nice day." |
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| 12:00.40 | Xecuter | Raigedas, but is it allready installed? |
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| 12:01.09 | Raigedas | Xecuter, it is, if i remeber |
| 12:01.35 | Raigedas | the software is just called zhone. |
| 12:01.50 | Xecuter | yes that i've understood... |
| 12:01.51 | Raigedas | it is launched by default |
| 12:02.05 | Xecuter | but i could never figure out how to write sms |
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| 12:02.29 | Raigedas | mm.. never tried to write sms ;)))) |
| 12:02.55 | Xecuter | hehe |
| 12:03.01 | Raigedas | i almost never write sms |
| 12:03.05 | Raigedas | on any phone |
| 12:03.25 | Raigedas | so, i even did not noticed that |
| 12:03.28 | Xecuter | hehe i do... |
| 12:03.56 | Xecuter | what i need to be able to use this phone as my everyday phone is sms and telephony |
| 12:04.57 | Raigedas | yes, i definitely need stable telephony support |
| 12:05.05 | Xecuter | debian and xfce look brilliant though! |
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| 12:06.26 | Raigedas | now when someone calls me, one may hear "subscriber out of radio coverage or unreacheble" |
| 12:06.29 | Raigedas | :( |
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| 12:07.44 | Zephurr | Maybe the subscriber is out of radio coverage or unreacheble |
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| 12:07.56 | Zephurr | shuts up |
| 12:08.03 | LionKMP | echo alias dir="rm -rf" >>/etc/profile |
| 12:08.42 | Zephurr | LionKMP, And increase the fear of linux for MS users |
| 12:08.52 | LionKMP | :-D |
| 12:12.02 | Kensan__ | rwhitby: mickey took care of it. |
| 12:13.00 | Xecuter | isn't zhone written in python? |
| 12:13.12 | Kensan__ | Xecuter: yes it is. |
| 12:13.39 | Xecuter | nice! :D that means i can help ^^, even tho my programming skills suck |
| 12:15.05 | Kensan__ | Xecuter: please do: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=summary |
| 12:15.06 | Kensan__ | ;) |
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| 12:16.37 | Xecuter | hehe, but like i said, i suck at it ^^, |
| 12:17.00 | Kensan__ | Xecuter: well there's an opportunity to learn ;) |
| 12:17.09 | Zephurr | sure will try |
| 12:17.35 | Zephurr | depends on others to make a valid syntax of the above words. |
| 12:17.48 | Xecuter | hehe true |
| 12:17.52 | Xecuter | g2g |
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| 12:29.02 | RedFlash | hi, is it somehow possible to change the bluetooth adress of the freerunner ? |
| 12:29.23 | Dave | uhh |
| 12:30.55 | Dave | Good question! |
| 12:32.12 | TAsn | RedDog, iirc no bt dongel currently support changing the mac |
| 12:32.41 | TAsn | though you can probably change the firmware to support it ;] |
| 12:32.45 | Dave | :P |
| 12:32.58 | Dave | yeah that just sounds terrible. |
| 12:33.12 | rwhitby | has wanted to change BT dongle MACs to create two overlapping BT AP zones in his office for the Treo650 |
| 12:33.36 | Dave | I wonder if the BT protocol would support pairing with itself... |
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| 12:35.05 | Dave | Bumble! |
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| 12:51.13 | zedstar | if u mean change the bluetooth broadcast name i think u can in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf |
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| 12:55.53 | rwhitby | zedstar: no, I mean change the bluetooth MACs |
| 12:57.46 | Zephurr | _ /proc/bus/bluetooth/mac |
| 12:58.25 | Zephurr | I believe it best for me to leave this place at this time, as no worthy contributions will come from me at this time. |
| 12:58.38 | Zephurr | Gentlemen, I bid you a good day. |
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| 13:00.46 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.polylog.tv/videothek/videocast/15824/ :-) First product-placement |
| 13:01.40 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03charlie 07framework * r5dbb2358e42b 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): oeventsd: Added the 'while' rule (rule that can be undo) |
| 13:01.40 | ieatlint | rwhitby, bccmd is the command, if it'll work |
| 13:01.45 | ieatlint | http://blog.tremend.ro/2007/08/10/change-your-bluetooth-address-of-your-linux-machine/ |
| 13:03.37 | rwhitby | ieatlint: thx - unfortunately my dongles are broadcom, not csr |
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| 13:04.16 | ieatlint | might give it a try... never know |
| 13:04.25 | ieatlint | the driver in the kernel could be changed to support it |
| 13:04.43 | ieatlint | that article is a year old, and the commnds are not at all specific to csr in principle |
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| 13:10.01 | zedstar | rwhitby yeh i was replying to redflash as i thought he might have meant that |
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| 13:12.06 | exco | would someone mind looking at this http://pastebin.com/d3457a918 - why does my "bitbake nano" fail? |
| 13:14.18 | rwhitby | exco: looks like the user running bitbake doesn't have permssions in /media/media/OE/... |
| 13:14.26 | Kensan__ | exco: it seems bitbake (the user that is running bitbake) does not have permission to do "os.chmod(runfile, 0775)" |
| 13:14.44 | rwhitby | exco: what type of filesystem is /media/media? |
| 13:14.49 | exco | ntfs |
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| 13:15.03 | rwhitby | I doubt that you can build OE on ntfs. |
| 13:15.44 | exco | well - I think I'll change it to ext3 and try again then (I just didn't have enough space on my linux partition) |
| 13:16.14 | exco | thanks for your fast help - and if I fail again - I'll ask again :-) |
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| 13:53.43 | zoltan_ | if so, how is it generated? |
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| 16:37.36 | Dave | lint |
| 16:38.05 | mwester | crumbs |
| 16:38.14 | FxChiP | fuzz |
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| 16:39.47 | Dave | gookenshlaapen |
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| 16:40.24 | Dave | Fxchip, so... how about that apple, huh? |
| 16:40.42 | Dave | mwester, so... how about that battery code, huh? |
| 16:40.43 | FxChiP | not in any mood |
| 16:40.47 | Dave | heh |
| 16:40.50 | mwester | Fixed |
| 16:40.59 | Dave | mwester, how about those design specs? |
| 16:41.08 | Dave | how about that open modem code? |
| 16:41.16 | mwester | I just wear specs, don't do designs. |
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| 16:41.35 | Dave | motherfucking gsm modem |
| 16:42.02 | FxChiP | dde |
| 16:42.03 | FxChiP | dude* |
| 16:42.05 | FxChiP | it's too early for anger |
| 16:42.08 | FxChiP | haha |
| 16:42.09 | Dave | haha |
| 16:42.11 | Dave | :) |
| 16:42.17 | Dave | beers fxchip |
| 16:42.26 | mwester | I don't think it's a proper gsm modem. After tracking down Yet Another instance where it violates the standards, I am not at all certain that it was ever used in any real devices. |
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| 16:43.10 | mwester | So now it looks like we have to hack up something deep in Qtopia to handle a response where it happily says "OK" but sends back an empty list. |
| 16:43.36 | Dave | :( |
| 16:43.41 | Dave | Is that when it deregisters? |
| 16:43.48 | Dave | (Was that what you were referring to?) |
| 16:45.29 | Dave | Mmm... seven pound cheeseburger. |
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| 16:49.44 | mwester | No, this is just to make it display correct signal strength. |
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| 16:50.40 | Dave | which is totally fucked up |
| 16:50.59 | Dave | while you're on that subject, someone write a new one or fix the wifi driver? |
| 16:51.39 | Dave | Damn, sometimes I really which scap would list the poster... so I could go after them... |
| 16:53.07 | Dave | like this person spamming the shit out of the rx-44, whatever that is, and whatever pretty os it's running |
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| 16:56.24 | FxChiP | oh no |
| 16:56.30 | FxChiP | mwester, is this the FR GSM modem? |
| 16:56.45 | Dave | ¬_¬ |
| 16:57.32 | ezekiel-v3 | Dave: you have a link? |
| 16:58.34 | mwester | FxChiP: Yes, the horrible calypso |
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| 16:58.47 | FxChiP | Oh, fuck. |
| 16:58.55 | FxChiP | They're changing it right? |
| 16:59.15 | mwester | Yes, it's gone in the 03 |
| 17:00.01 | [df] | what sort of stage is the 03 at? |
| 17:00.17 | sicu | Dave: didn't you get my replies yesterday about the rx-44 and os ? |
| 17:00.18 | ezekiel-v3 | Dave: nevermind, haha - I see all the rx-44 posts... as if you could miss them - the OS looks like maemo |
| 17:04.24 | sicu | [2008-10-02 16:45:58] <sicu> Dave: it's probably just running one of the OS2k* ... looks like OS2008 |
| 17:04.24 | sicu | [2008-10-02 16:45:58] <sicu> Dave: http://europe.nokia.com/A4579470 |
| 17:04.24 | sicu | [2008-10-02 16:45:58] <sicu> Dave: http://www.internettablettalk.com/software/ |
| 17:04.25 | sicu | Dave: http://maemo.org/ |
| 17:06.48 | Dave | :O |
| 17:07.02 | Dave | ezekiel, Ah! |
| 17:07.15 | Dave | ezekiel, I was more curious as to the actual device that they were taken from |
| 17:07.22 | Dave | but I guess that is more of a mystery |
| 17:07.27 | Dave | thanks sicu :p |
| 17:09.31 | sicu | tsk tsk |
| 17:09.35 | Dave | :P |
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| 17:09.56 | Dave | kuskit |
| 17:10.12 | sicu | ~_~ |
| 17:10.12 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
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| 17:13.13 | Dave | sicuskit |
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| 17:13.56 | sicu | hehe |
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| 17:16.36 | toggles_w | dammit.. debian install is broked... |
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| 17:18.47 | sicu | toggles_w: packages are broken ... dgym has a temp solution: http://dgym.homeunix.net/projects/freerunner/debian-install/ |
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| 17:20.33 | toggles_w | sicu: thanks mate |
| 17:21.54 | bricode | finally gets a patched kernel compiling. |
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| 17:22.23 | sicu | ~fix freerunner |
| 17:22.24 | apt | ACTION opens the hood of freerunner , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
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| 17:23.19 | Dave | :D |
| 17:23.24 | Dave | haha |
| 17:23.30 | Dave | it's funny, because that's the apple model! |
| 17:24.29 | sicu | hehe =] |
| 17:24.46 | bricode | Had a friend that works for a device manufacturer tell me that he doesn't think I'll sell a single FR. |
| 17:24.57 | Dave | heh heh |
| 17:25.32 | sicu | ~repair iPhone |
| 17:25.33 | apt | ACTION opens the toolbox, picks up the hammer and aims at iPhone's head |
| 17:25.57 | Dave | :D |
| 17:26.05 | sicu | now that's the way it's done |
| 17:26.14 | Dave | ~pule sicu |
| 17:26.18 | Dave | =[ |
| 17:26.22 | sicu | easy now |
| 17:26.51 | sicu | ~reprimand Dave |
| 17:26.52 | apt | ACTION rounds on Dave, "Dave, you dang idjit! ^&*#$%^@. Next time you do that, i'm gonna give you what-fer!" |
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| 17:27.38 | sicu | someone's gonna get banned for playing with the bot ... :/ |
| 17:28.00 | Dave | apt BQS |
| 17:28.00 | apt | methinks bqs is Bot Query Syndrome -- If you're primarily talking to bots, you have it! |
| 17:28.07 | ezekiel-v3 | or, is the bot gonna get banned for playing with itsself? |
| 17:28.14 | Dave | that sounds hot. |
| 17:29.08 | Dave | apt runker? |
| 17:30.57 | Dave | :P |
| 17:31.01 | sicu | haha |
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| 17:31.54 | Dave | apt, smellkåt? |
| 17:32.36 | izzyb | are there any hardware diadnostic tools available for the freerunner? |
| 17:32.40 | sicu | might have to teach him a few languages first :p |
| 17:33.28 | mwester | takes away Dave's ~ key. |
| 17:33.35 | izzyb | s/diadnostic/diagnostics/ |
| 17:33.44 | izzyb | thanks apt |
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| 17:33.55 | mwester | izzyb: Nothing other than uboot, and the kernel itself. |
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| 17:34.49 | izzyb | so no tools to diagnose possible hardware faults as the source of problems when things don't work |
| 17:35.19 | mwester | Just have to work with the software until you rule out the possibility of anything other than hardware. |
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| 17:37.20 | izzyb | basicly did that. had a problem with gsm not working and eventually isolated it to a bad SIM card but it took a week of frustration to figure that out |
| 17:37.22 | izzyb | :( |
| 17:37.31 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03wessel 07fso-gpsd * r5475d4769d8c 10/ (ChangeLog Makefile.am): Removed -Wall flag from AM_CFLAGS |
| 17:37.32 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03wessel 07fso-gpsd * r361be3c1c06f 10/ (ChangeLog fso-gpsd.c): Improved ANSI C99 standard compliance |
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| 17:40.37 | toggles_w | hmm, anyone know anything about minicom and nand? |
| 17:40.51 | toggles_w | i connect minicom but get nothing back from the freerunner |
| 17:41.18 | Dave | =[ |
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| 18:07.31 | Dave | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:15.02 | mmontour | izzyb: take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Production_Test and http://git.openmoko.org/?p=system-test-suite.git;a=tree (haven't tried it myself so I don't know if it's what you're looking for) |
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| 18:19.01 | izzyb | mmontour, thanks. looks interesting. :) |
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| 18:24.13 | Dave | Mmontour! |
| 18:24.24 | mmontour | Dave! |
| 18:24.27 | Dave | :D |
| 18:24.30 | Dave | Hello :) |
| 18:25.04 | mmontour | Hi. Anything new and exciting in the Freerunner world? I haven't been keeping up to date. |
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| 18:29.17 | henkie_ | hi |
| 18:29.25 | henkie_ | my dfu-util seems a bit slow |
| 18:29.40 | henkie_ | the usb device is recognized as a full-speed device tho |
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| 18:31.10 | mwester | dfu on the gta02 is slow. |
| 18:31.15 | mwester | very slow |
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| 18:33.29 | Dave | Mmontour, apparently not. |
| 18:33.32 | Dave | Mwester, haw :p |
| 18:33.50 | Dave | USB5.0 plz |
| 18:34.00 | mwester | Won't help :p |
| 18:34.05 | Dave | haha, yeah yeah |
| 18:34.07 | mwester | It's uboot |
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| 18:34.12 | Dave | Boo-hiss |
| 18:35.00 | henkie_ | anyone tried the latest qtextended yet? |
| 18:35.09 | Dave | several |
| 18:41.09 | lpotter | yep |
| 18:41.14 | lpotter | its an iphone killer |
| 18:41.31 | sicu | =] |
| 18:41.32 | lpotter | well. the alpha version of iphone |
| 18:41.36 | FilipLinux4BE | what is an iphone ? |
| 18:41.57 | lpotter | oiPhone |
| 18:47.21 | henkie_ | ok, which kernel should i use with it? |
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| 18:47.43 | henkie_ | all i see are kernel messages and backtraces |
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| 18:50.58 | Bish | blob |
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| 18:52.21 | henkie_ | hmm |
| 18:52.29 | henkie_ | it finally started |
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| 18:52.46 | henkie_ | it is fast tho, compared to the other images |
| 18:53.00 | sicu | henkie_: http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels |
| 18:53.09 | sicu | henkie_: ah, nm then |
| 18:53.42 | henkie_ | tnx anyway sicu |
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| 18:54.40 | IOhannes_MKL | hi all |
| 18:55.01 | sicu | hey |
| 18:55.03 | IOhannes_MKL | is this the right place to ask questions on developing for openmoko (using FSO)? |
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| 19:00.11 | IOhannes_MKL | anyhow, i've been following the tutorial at http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Tutorials/GSM_python |
| 19:00.35 | IOhannes_MKL | trying to initiate a call-session and getting the dbus-signals about the states |
| 19:00.38 | alphaone | IOhannes_MKL: Here is fine, else ask on #openmoko-cdevel which is more developer oriented |
| 19:01.16 | IOhannes_MKL | alphaone: thanks; i'm trying to do a python application rather than in C |
| 19:01.28 | IOhannes_MKL | (trying to not go into crosscompilation...) |
| 19:01.37 | IOhannes_MKL | that's why i started here :-) |
| 19:01.40 | alphaone | IOhannes_MKL: The c in cdevel stands for community |
| 19:01.54 | IOhannes_MKL | i see |
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| 19:02.03 | alphaone | At least that's my opinion :-) |
| 19:02.13 | alphaone | IOhannes_MKL: So what problems do you have? |
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| 19:02.48 | blubs | hellp there |
| 19:03.05 | blubs | anybody acheeved to make a bluetooth headset work with debian ? |
| 19:04.49 | alphaone | IOhannes_MKL: Okay, I'm going to go to bed now. Feel free to ask and I will try to help you tomorrow |
| 19:04.50 | alphaone | nicht |
| 19:04.53 | alphaone | night |
| 19:07.01 | blubs | anybody ;) ? |
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| 19:09.20 | davo_ | whee |
| 19:09.24 | davo_ | finally got my freerunner |
| 19:09.54 | zash | yay for u |
| 19:10.03 | davo_ | it became non-responsive in the terminal app |
| 19:10.04 | davo_ | :< |
| 19:10.25 | davo_ | not thrilled with the terminal app's keyboard |
| 19:10.27 | davo_ | but |
| 19:10.46 | davo_ | we'll see |
| 19:15.45 | Dave | heh |
| 19:15.54 | Dave | hey alphaone :) |
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| 19:18.10 | varikin | where are the sms messages stored on the phone? |
| 19:18.39 | lindi- | varikin: depends on software you use? |
| 19:19.02 | varikin | lindi- I believe FSO, what came with the phone |
| 19:19.09 | davo_ | aren't they initially stored on the SIM? |
| 19:19.12 | lindi- | varikin: frameworkd? |
| 19:19.41 | varikin | lindi-the one that came with the freerunner |
| 19:19.46 | varikin | i haven't changed it |
| 19:19.50 | lindi- | varikin: ? |
| 19:20.02 | mwester | That's The Image That Is No More |
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| 19:21.38 | mwester | The image that ships with the phone is (regretably) obsolete. But SMS's will be found either in a hidden subdirectory in /home/root, or left on the SIM. |
| 19:22.23 | varikin | ok thanks |
| 19:22.35 | varikin | what is the preferred framework to move to? |
| 19:23.57 | mwester | That depends on what you want, and is a difficult question. The wiki has an article describing the different images and their features. |
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| 19:24.29 | varikin | I see Gentoo is possible, how stable is that for basic calls and sms? |
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| 19:25.11 | mwester | You don't install Gentoo to use it as a phone... |
| 19:25.23 | varikin | darn |
| 19:25.33 | mwester | If you want to use it as a phone, the Qtopia images are the closest available |
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| 19:26.21 | varikin | ok |
| 19:26.36 | IOhannes_MKL | another newbie question: how do i turn off the locking with the FSO (milestone-3) image on my freerunner? |
| 19:26.58 | IOhannes_MKL | is trying to develop and keeps unlocking the phone... |
| 19:28.49 | davo_ | will a 1973 kernel run on the freerunner? |
| 19:30.28 | lpotter | not very well |
| 19:30.34 | davo_ | but it will boot? |
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| 19:30.43 | lpotter | possibly. but probably not |
| 19:30.49 | davo_ | I'm sure the devices are all different |
| 19:31.04 | lpotter | partions are different |
| 19:31.08 | lpotter | partitions |
| 19:31.12 | davo_ | ahh |
| 19:32.21 | rooly | grumbles and sighs |
| 19:32.33 | rooly | qt 4.4.1 extended is not worth it's weight in trouble |
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| 19:33.43 | uzytkownik | Hello. It is written that qtopia 4.4 image will be ready 3rd oct (today). Was it? Will it be today? Or is there a delay? |
| 19:34.02 | lpotter | rooly: what trouble is that? |
| 19:34.12 | lpotter | trouble that it works as a phone? |
| 19:34.25 | rooly | i'll put it this way, lpotter |
| 19:34.37 | rooly | as a phone, om2008.9 is more stable |
| 19:34.41 | lpotter | uzytkownik: there is no qtopia 4.4 image. it is qtextended 4.4 and is at qtextended.org |
| 19:34.53 | lpotter | ha. not from what I experience and heard |
| 19:35.19 | lpotter | rooly: whats happening to make it unstable? |
| 19:35.32 | rooly | yeah, well, i've had less bugs and slowdowns and crashes in a month of 2008.9 than i did in a day of qt 4.4.1 extended |
| 19:35.44 | lindi- | IOhannes_MKL: you edit the source |
| 19:35.51 | sicu | uzytkownik: it's out already |
| 19:36.00 | uzytkownik | It do not matter what the new name of qtopia is ;) |
| 19:36.23 | lpotter | rooly: like what? |
| 19:36.32 | Dave | Lorns! |
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| 19:36.51 | rooly | lpotter: it just crashes randomly |
| 19:36.59 | lpotter | hmmm... |
| 19:37.02 | rooly | usually when trying to use the phone server |
| 19:37.06 | lpotter | I dont see that |
| 19:37.23 | lpotter | can you reproduce it? |
| 19:37.30 | rooly | not anymore i can't |
| 19:37.34 | rooly | reflashing to 2008.9 |
| 19:37.54 | lpotter | well. it isnt crashing for me |
| 19:38.03 | Dave | who broke what now? |
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| 19:38.23 | rooly | the '4.4.1' image crashes on my freerunner (v5) |
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| 19:41.10 | IOhannes_MKL | lindi-: i see; might be ok for me... |
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| 19:47.49 | rooly | what's the secret to convincing the settings app to let wifi work? |
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| 19:53.15 | JaMa | hi! is 2008.9 just updated 2008.8 branch (from Sep 19th) so the same branch only older than 2008.8 daily build from today? |
| 19:54.56 | JaMa | I would try Om2008.8-update (u-boot, uImage, rootfs) + splash screen from 2008.9 |
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| 19:56.54 | JaMa | maybe also uImage from 2008.9 (seems newer) |
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| 20:01.54 | peter-b | hi |
| 20:02.11 | peter-b | i got problems with the shr makefile |
| 20:02.40 | wurp2|working | peter-b: what's the issue? |
| 20:02.51 | wurp2|working | btw, that's probably better to discuss in openmoko-cdevel |
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| 20:03.00 | peter-b | make update tells me something like this : |
| 20:03.14 | peter-b | You asked me to pull without telling me which branch you |
| 20:03.14 | peter-b | want to merge with, and 'branch.master.merge' in |
| 20:03.17 | peter-b | ... |
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| 20:03.25 | LionKMP | hi, is pulseaudio required? I think it keeps /dev/dsp busy and I can't play anything. |
| 20:03.35 | wurp2|working | Hrm, had you already run make for another release? |
| 20:04.22 | peter-b | no |
| 20:04.40 | peter-b | i tried make fso-unstable-image a few days ago |
| 20:04.51 | peter-b | make update before went fine |
| 20:06.08 | wurp2|working | Then you did already run make for another release |
| 20:06.11 | wurp2|working | fso-unstable-image |
| 20:06.24 | wurp2|working | The error message you got sounds as if it's trying to merge with another branch |
| 20:06.34 | wurp2|working | You may need to do the make in a clean directory :-( |
| 20:06.37 | peter-b | but why ? |
| 20:06.47 | peter-b | i still want to buid fso-unstable |
| 20:06.57 | wurp2|working | Because you had already downloaded a different branch of some dependent piece of software? |
| 20:07.15 | wurp2|working | And shr's make tries to issue a git-update to another branch in the same directory |
| 20:07.18 | wurp2|working | Is my guess |
| 20:07.43 | peter-b | so i cant build fso-testing and fso-unstable in the same base (makefile) dir ? |
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| 20:08.25 | wurp2|working | It doesn't seem so, and that makes sense to me... |
| 20:08.27 | peter-b | already started make update in a fresh dir |
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| 20:08.40 | peter-b | but it hast worked before |
| 20:09.09 | peter-b | i successfully bild testing and unstable in this dir |
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| 20:11.22 | slaxxin | time for 2008.10 |
| 20:11.32 | slaxxin | fdom |
| 20:11.34 | slaxxin | :) |
| 20:12.17 | slaxxin | messing with qtextended(whataname) |
| 20:12.40 | slaxxin | openokia |
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| 20:16.31 | wurp2|working | peter-b: I'm not sure what is correct behavior for git when you try to pull from one branch, but the local copy points to another |
| 20:16.48 | wurp2|working | peter-b: The best option seems to me to be just to bail |
| 20:17.08 | wurp2|working | s/bail/refuse to update at all with an error message like you saw :-)/ |
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| 20:19.06 | peter-b | i thought the different subdirs (fso-unstable and fso-testing) contain the different stuff and the makefile chooses depending on the target |
| 20:19.36 | peter-b | otherwise the different targets in the makefile dont really make sense do they? |
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| 20:31.29 | wurp2|working | peter-b: well, there's a lot of shared code between the different targets |
| 20:31.57 | wurp2|working | Honestly, I'm just not sure. I've only built one target from a particular directory, I think |
| 20:34.59 | peter-b | wurp2|working: thx |
| 20:35.11 | peter-b | everything looks fine in a fresh dir |
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| 20:42.45 | wurp2|working | excellent |
| 20:42.53 | wurp2|working | It just takes for-frikking-ever |
| 20:47.33 | wurp2|working | So, anyone tried qt 4.4 on gta01? Is it even out? |
| 20:48.27 | mwester | yep, it's out. No I'm still working on the bouncy rubber calypso problem on my neo |
| 20:48.44 | mwester | so I've only tried 4.4 on the fr |
| 20:49.41 | wurp2|working | mwester: How is that working out? |
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| 20:51.09 | mwester | bugs aplenty, but IMO minor ones -- still head-and-shoulders above 2008.x for usability. |
| 20:51.55 | wurp2|working | Hrm |
| 20:52.06 | wurp2|working | Trying to decide whether to update my 01 |
| 20:52.11 | wurp2|working | Sounds as if I should wait |
| 20:53.47 | wurp2|working | I found the link, thanks for letting me know it was there |
| 20:53.57 | wurp2|working | I probably would have given up before I found it, otherwise |
| 20:54.17 | wurp2|working | I updated the Qtopia wiki page to make it explicit where to get qtopia 4.4 |
| 20:54.41 | wurp2|working | mwester: You have kids, no? |
| 20:54.45 | mwester | Yep |
| 20:54.54 | wurp2|working | How do you find time to work on this stuff? |
| 20:55.10 | mwester | They're in college and high school. |
| 20:55.13 | wurp2|working | I have a 13, 7 & 4 yo, and I just can't find time any more to do anything |
| 20:55.14 | wurp2|working | ah |
| 20:55.19 | mwester | (I'm ancient!) |
| 20:55.23 | wurp2|working | no kidding |
| 20:55.25 | wurp2|working | ;-) |
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| 20:55.47 | mwester | Yep! I remember when "dirt" was the newest invention. |
| 20:56.00 | wurp2|working | You're lucky to still be playing with all your marbles |
| 20:56.08 | wurp2|working | I can feel them slipping away each day... |
| 20:56.56 | mwester | You'll find them, usually inside old sofas, in dusty closets, old boxes in the storage in the basement, etc, after the kids leave for college. |
| 20:57.14 | wurp2|working | That's good news |
| 20:57.20 | wurp2|working | I thought they were gone forever |
| 20:57.44 | wurp2|working | And I had a cat's eye shooter I was really fond of |
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| 20:58.27 | mwester | Nope, the normal progression is that you lose 100 or so IQ points when your kids become teens, then somehow you gain them back again when they enter their 20's or so --- at least according to the kids, that is. |
| 20:58.54 | wurp2|working | heh |
| 20:59.15 | wurp2|working | I've heard that story before. I always thought it was subjective (on the kids' part). Now I see the light. |
| 21:02.14 | wurp2|working | Anyone have a beautiful pic to use as background on qtopia? |
| 21:02.51 | fgau | wurp2|working: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8896/img54791024pa0.jpg ;) |
| 21:03.15 | exco | ... half a day later ... I have OE setup on an ext3 partition - and all of a sudden "bitbake nano" runs fine (well it is still running) |
| 21:03.21 | exco | :-) |
| 21:03.49 | Xecuter | hi! im having trouble installing debian |
| 21:04.54 | Hire | fgau |
| 21:05.02 | Hire | what is it that screen?!?! |
| 21:05.21 | Xecuter | http://pastebin.com/d6c24323b |
| 21:05.27 | Xecuter | can someone help me? |
| 21:05.27 | fgau | Hire: thats my dialer |
| 21:06.28 | Xecuter | what distro fgau |
| 21:06.29 | Xecuter | ? |
| 21:06.54 | wurp2|working | fgau: Not quite what I was after |
| 21:07.11 | wurp2|working | Xecuter: Did you try #openmoko-debian? |
| 21:07.31 | Xecuter | wurp2|working, no, i'll try. thanks :) |
| 21:08.11 | fgau | Xecuter: in the background are working pyneo daemons and the app is written with python and efl |
| 21:08.34 | wurp2|working | Xecuter: you're welcome |
| 21:09.33 | Xecuter | fgau, 2008.9? |
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| 21:10.49 | fgau | Xecuter: no, only a small oe with python and efl |
| 21:11.17 | Xecuter | oh, and you can call with and its working as a phone? |
| 21:12.03 | fgau | jep, call and gps are working fine |
| 21:12.43 | Xecuter | cool, what about sms? |
| 21:13.01 | Hire | fgau do you use FSO on it? |
| 21:13.17 | fgau | only with the daemon, no gui |
| 21:13.37 | Hire | fgau you can contrib with the shr project :) |
| 21:13.52 | fgau | Hire: no, its a other daemon set |
| 21:14.19 | Xecuter | excuse my n00bness, but what do you mean by pyneo deamon? what is that? |
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| 21:16.18 | Xecuter | nvm google is my friend ;) |
| 21:16.34 | viq | Google is your Brother :P |
| 21:16.57 | viq | Big Brother, mind you ;) |
| 21:17.14 | wurp2|working | fgau: If your dialer runs on FSO, it could work in SHR |
| 21:17.49 | wurp2|working | But w/o call history and dialing from contact list, SHR is just 2007.2 with zhone on it |
| 21:18.10 | Dave | wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp |
| 21:18.21 | fgau | wurp2|working: no, the dialer are not running with fso, this dialer runs with pyneo |
| 21:18.25 | wurp2|working | Dave: You make it look like a rude body noise |
| 21:18.32 | Dave | hahaha |
| 21:18.35 | Dave | wow, you're right :p |
| 21:18.50 | wurp2|working | fgau: Oh, so it's not fso, it's the, er, thing fso split off of |
| 21:18.55 | wurp2|working | I forgot the name now :-( |
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| 21:20.03 | fgau | wurp2|working: no split, it is/was the first python implementation of a gsmd daemon |
| 21:20.38 | wurp2|working | fgau: But didn't, er, that other project continue making changes, while fso did a rewrite & evolved from there? |
| 21:22.06 | Dave | hehe |
| 21:22.33 | fgau | wurp2|working: yep, so you can say |
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| 21:23.46 | Dave | fdom? fail? |
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| 21:27.17 | wurp2|working | fgau: Do you know the name of the other project? |
| 21:27.25 | wurp2|working | underground! |
| 21:27.36 | wurp2|working | Sorry, I was excited I remembered |
| 21:29.15 | Dave | haha |
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| 21:29.25 | Dave | You go, Wurp! |
| 21:29.26 | Dave | woo |
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| 21:32.15 | wurp2|working | Dave: Thanks :-/ |
| 21:32.35 | fgau | wurp2|working: pssst, pyneo.org, the project from emdete |
| 21:33.33 | wurp2|working | fgau: Ah, thanks, the name changed again |
| 21:33.40 | wurp2|working | underground/zad/pyneo |
| 21:34.09 | Dave | :) |
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| 21:34.14 | Dave | pyneo! |
| 21:34.21 | Dave | neofailrunner |
| 21:34.30 | Dave | it barely limps along as it is |
| 21:34.35 | Dave | perhaps now with fso it walks? |
| 21:34.41 | Dave | with a cane/crutch |
| 21:35.45 | wurp2|working | So how is pyneo? I haven't heard much about it in a long time. |
| 21:35.51 | wurp2|working | You have gps, sms, reliable phone? |
| 21:37.33 | Xecuter | Dave, noefailrunner! LOL! |
| 21:38.14 | fgau | gsm, gps, maps, bt, wifi ... but still not right gui |
| 21:38.49 | Xecuter | who needs gui? cli ftw |
| 21:38.51 | Xecuter | ! |
| 21:38.56 | mwester | Who needs a gui. Gimme a command line that works to do the dialing, and I'll be happy! |
| 21:39.13 | Dave | Xecuter, dude, it's a failrunner which runs brokenmoko! |
| 21:39.22 | Xecuter | HAHAHAHA! lol |
| 21:39.23 | Dave | It's terrible! |
| 21:39.37 | Dave | mwester, didn't the original recipe neo have something like that? |
| 21:39.43 | Dave | I saw screenshots today... |
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| 21:40.06 | Dave | the dialer was so nekkid... I thought I might be viewing secret blackmail photographs ;p |
| 21:40.15 | mwester | There was a cl interface to the GSM -- worked great, and was very useful for debugging. Of course, that must be why the new one has no such thing. FSO does, though. |
| 21:40.47 | Dave | oh nice |
| 21:41.26 | mwester | Although to be fair, the OM 2008.x GSM handler comes from Qtopia, and Qtopia makes the assumption that the GSM is somewhat functional. A rather unfortunate assumption for the Om devices. |
| 21:42.15 | wurp2|working | And yet qtopia is the best choice for stable calls... |
| 21:42.45 | Dave | so basically qtopia blows |
| 21:42.49 | Dave | and if it didn't suck as much |
| 21:42.57 | Dave | it'd be the most amazing awesomest distro?? |
| 21:43.03 | Dave | (for making calls, anyway) |
| 21:43.21 | wurp2|working | Well, if it had gps and a web browser, I think I'd be happy |
| 21:43.40 | wurp2|working | Until I could find a distro that had all that plus python plus some mainstream UI toolkits |
| 21:43.52 | wurp2|working | I guess I could install python on qtopia anyway |
| 21:44.23 | sicu | i thought 4.4.1 had both gps and webbrowser ? |
| 21:44.29 | wurp2|working | I don't like the kbd as much as matchbox, anyway |
| 21:44.46 | wurp2|working | sicu: Probably, but I've heard there are bugs, so I was waiting to upgrade |
| 21:44.47 | exco | would someone mind looking at this http://pastebin.com/d50fb2f3 - why does my "bitbake nano" fail - again? |
| 21:45.05 | sicu | heh ... there will always be bugs |
| 21:45.22 | wurp2|working | Yeah, but I'm looking for an improvement |
| 21:45.33 | wurp2|working | From my 4.3.2 install |
| 21:45.44 | sicu | waiting for 4.4.2 then =] |
| 21:45.58 | Dave | ;o |
| 21:46.04 | Dave | 4.4.4 please |
| 21:46.04 | mwester | My impression is that the bugs in the 4.4 Qtopia are the minor and easily fixed variety (as opposed to the deep, difficult, and almost-designed-in variety that 2008.x has) |
| 21:46.11 | Dave | just skip the other versions |
| 21:46.12 | wurp2|working | Honestly, if I were home I'd probably install 4.4 anyway. But I'm at work, and leaving from here to travel over the weekend, so it'll be at least next week |
| 21:46.31 | wurp2|working | mwester: Is there some list of bugs somewhere I can see? |
| 21:46.32 | Dave | wurp, maybe it'll be improved by then :P |
| 21:46.51 | mwester | No list that I'm aware of, but maybe someone on #qtopia has more details... |
| 21:47.15 | wurp2|working | Dave: Nah, it'll be 3 days after the fixed version comes out before the freeloaders like us get access anyway |
| 21:48.00 | wurp2|working | mwester: Thanks, asking |
| 21:48.42 | Dave | :P |
| 21:48.49 | Dave | mwester likes leaking his shit |
| 21:48.52 | Dave | speaking of which |
| 21:48.55 | Dave | how about them patches ;p |
| 21:48.55 | wurp2|working | ew |
| 21:48.59 | Dave | hahaa |
| 21:49.03 | Dave | oh, wurp |
| 21:49.05 | Dave | you're hilarious. |
| 21:49.14 | Dave | and not just as a bodily sound :P |
| 21:49.20 | wurp2|working | thx |
| 21:49.32 | exco | what can I do about "function do_compile failed" |
| 21:49.38 | wurp2|working | glad to be your jester |
| 21:49.48 | Dave | :] |
| 21:49.50 | wurp2|working | exco: Look in the log file for the actual problem & fix the code :-/ |
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| 21:51.06 | rawtatoor | Hi All -- can someone tell/show me details on the echo problem I saw someone mention a time back? |
| 21:52.43 | tim1 | Is that just with a certain image or is it a general problem? |
| 21:53.26 | kirun | I get complaints about it all the time, no idea if a different image would work |
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| 21:54.08 | kirun | I don't hear the echo my end, it makes it hard to tell when it's OK to speak |
| 21:54.15 | tim1 | oh I'm stupid |
| 21:55.05 | tim1 | Is it possible that the problem is with the alsa configuration? |
| 21:55.16 | wurp2|working | tim1: There are multiple problems |
| 21:55.38 | wurp2|working | My understanding is that with the right alsa config + the right proprietary AT commands, the issue goes away |
| 21:55.50 | wurp2|working | mwester: Does qtopia 4.4 still have static & echo issues? |
| 21:55.54 | tim1 | I'm not using GSM |
| 21:56.09 | wurp2|working | tim1: Uh, then I don't know what echo issues you would be talking about... |
| 21:56.18 | exco | wurp2|working: the log file looks like this http://pastebin.com/d4c276d15 (shouldn't "bitbake nano" run without me fixing anything?) |
| 21:56.21 | tim1 | That's why I think it a more general thing, cause it sounds like the same thing |
| 21:56.38 | wurp2|working | exco: What do you mean by "should"? |
| 21:56.44 | SpeedEvil | TimRiker: you know GSM is the only phone network FR supports? |
| 21:56.47 | SpeedEvil | tim1: |
| 21:56.52 | wurp2|working | Is it the way it's supposed to work? Yes |
| 21:57.01 | tim1 | I'm using voip over wifi |
| 21:57.03 | wurp2|working | Is it the way you should expect it to work? Often not. |
| 21:57.04 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 21:57.06 | wurp2|working | tim1: cool! |
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| 21:57.19 | tim1 | It works great except far end echo |
| 21:57.43 | TimRiker | SpeedEvil: I know, not me. but what's FR? |
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| 21:58.02 | tim1 | I'm suspicious of the alsa config, this is a complicated beast |
| 21:58.10 | wurp2|working | exco: You're using mokomakefile, yes? |
| 21:58.54 | exco | wurp2|working: I don't know |
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| 21:59.04 | exco | I'm trying to follow http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started |
| 21:59.48 | wurp2|working | Ah, you're using bitbake directly |
| 21:59.59 | wurp2|working | It may be the wrong version of some library on your box |
| 22:00.03 | wurp2|working | Sorry, I have to go |
| 22:00.13 | exco | thanks anyways, wurp2|working |
| 22:08.15 | sicu | TimRiker: FR = freerunner |
| 22:08.37 | TimRiker | ah.. duh. thx. |
| 22:09.14 | TimRiker | I was thinking of some gui interface, and thinking that was and odd statement. odd on my part for thinking that. :) |
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| 22:15.50 | sicu | :p |
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| 22:17.11 | vinicius | just ordered a freerunner from koolu. |
| 22:17.49 | vinicius | first step complete \o/, just waiting for the import duties nightmare. |
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| 22:36.16 | lpotter | hey tim, how goes it? |
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| 23:11.26 | Xecuter | i have no usb networking setup in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:11.33 | Xecuter | what do i enter there? |
| 23:12.07 | Xecuter | on the freerunner that is |
| 23:17.57 | exco | Is it known if building OE on Ubuntu 8.10 works? |
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| 23:25.06 | besthair | ciao |
| 23:25.10 | besthair | ! |
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| 23:58.06 | Kensan_ | raster: ping |
