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| 02:18.59 | sagaci1 | Does anybody know of a mirror for the toolchain (SDK)? I've been trying to download it from downloads.openmoko.org, but it never gets past 2%. I can't seem to build it either. |
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| 02:20.57 | wurp2 | sagaci1: Sorry, no |
| 02:21.10 | wurp2 | Have you tried googling for some of the filenames it's failing on? |
| 02:21.22 | sagaci1 | It's failing on all the .h files. |
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| 02:22.37 | wurp2 | If you google on some of those you may find a mirror... |
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| 02:26.15 | sagaci1 | Ah well. No hits of any real use. I'll try to inject in bitbake I guess. |
| 02:31.38 | wurp2 | Good luck. Sorry I couldn't be of help. |
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| 02:41.09 | sagaci1 | Hey, the download finally finished! |
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| 03:39.37 | wurp2 | sagacis: Congrats! |
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| 03:59.57 | sagacis | bong |
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| 04:34.06 | mwester-trip | cherry |
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| 04:45.53 | holycow | hello my mokomonkeys |
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| 04:49.22 | t00na | helloes |
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| 06:32.18 | raster | hooray |
| 06:32.20 | raster | finally fideos |
| 06:32.23 | raster | videos |
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| 06:36.35 | holycow | raster: url? |
| 06:36.36 | holycow | :) |
| 06:36.55 | raster | http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/ |
| 06:36.59 | raster | i promised i'd put them up |
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| 06:37.34 | holycow | *ooo* |
| 06:37.36 | holycow | checkin |
| 06:37.38 | holycow | danke! |
| 06:38.38 | holycow | omg |
| 06:38.40 | holycow | beuatiful! |
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| 06:38.56 | raster | thats running on a gta02 |
| 06:39.13 | raster | scrolling all of the screen is slow thank to really poor ideo bus bandwidth |
| 06:39.24 | holycow | ui is genious |
| 06:39.33 | holycow | i love the pull up/down metaphor |
| 06:39.36 | holycow | wow |
| 06:39.57 | raster | the slide down top bar is thanks to limited screen sapce |
| 06:40.04 | raster | so as lon as the bar is big enough for a finger to hit |
| 06:40.16 | raster | u can hide mountains of stuff up there like more controls for switching appplications,c losing, |
| 06:40.21 | raster | going "home" (to the launcher) |
| 06:40.21 | raster | etc. |
| 06:40.35 | holycow | thats very very clever |
| 06:40.36 | raster | i actualy had much bettre ones |
| 06:40.43 | holycow | i can totally see using thats on a media center for example |
| 06:40.53 | holycow | it's just simple/powerfull enough for that sort of thing as well |
| 06:41.19 | raster | that is actually e17 |
| 06:41.24 | holycow | the horizontal bar thing is amazing as well |
| 06:41.26 | raster | plus illume as a module |
| 06:41.28 | holycow | oh thats e17? really? |
| 06:41.31 | holycow | wow |
| 06:41.34 | raster | and a theme to change stuff to look nice |
| 06:41.45 | holycow | so a standard desktop |
| 06:41.48 | holycow | v v interesting |
| 06:41.55 | raster | illume also enfocres a layotu policy a bit like matchbox does |
| 06:41.59 | raster | but its just a module for e |
| 06:42.05 | holycow | the application scrolling horizontally is a brilliant idea imho |
| 06:42.12 | holycow | that beats the iphone apprach imho |
| 06:42.13 | raster | u can heavily modify e just with moduels and some config to do all sorts of stuff |
| 06:42.20 | holycow | right |
| 06:42.34 | holycow | well on a display that size you really need those sorts of policies imho |
| 06:42.42 | holycow | there just isn't enough room for a free for all |
| 06:42.42 | raster | the imjags will be replaced with "screenshots" of the applications |
| 06:42.49 | raster | i.e. big images representing the app |
| 06:42.52 | raster | as opposed to small icons |
| 06:43.05 | holycow | right |
| 06:43.08 | holycow | AWESOME |
| 06:43.17 | holycow | in terms of useablity, i can TOTALLY see loving this |
| 06:43.19 | holycow | one question |
| 06:43.23 | raster | the horizontal slide ideafor selecting apps was ill/sean's |
| 06:43.28 | holycow | does it auto rotate when th emoko rotates? |
| 06:43.37 | raster | my current problem is actually the touchscreen being too jittery/sensitive |
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| 06:43.43 | raster | and no |
| 06:43.47 | raster | it has no clue about rotation |
| 06:43.52 | raster | its a start |
| 06:43.57 | raster | all this i consider final touches |
| 06:44.12 | holycow | oh of coursde |
| 06:44.14 | holycow | -d |
| 06:44.16 | holycow | was just curious |
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| 06:44.20 | raster | eg a module to listen to the accelerometers and guss if it should rotate or not then issue xrandr requests to do it |
| 06:44.56 | mbuf | raster, that is cool |
| 06:45.13 | holycow | raster: indeed its mostly done for ya true |
| 06:45.54 | raster | lots of things to do still |
| 06:46.00 | holycow | raster: i just can't wait to buy one |
| 06:46.04 | raster | more streamlined selecting |
| 06:46.16 | holycow | i may haveto buy a blackberry in the interim but i would love to avoid it |
| 06:46.17 | raster | need to look into fixing the touchscreen - maybe hack up a tslib filter for events |
| 06:46.22 | holycow | that just looks great |
| 06:46.27 | raster | need to add kirtulla keyboard handling |
| 06:46.29 | holycow | i'm so glad to see innovation like this from open source |
| 06:46.33 | raster | i need to add support for qtopia on x11 |
| 06:46.39 | raster | as it wants to do strange things |
| 06:46.41 | holycow | interesting |
| 06:46.54 | holycow | raster: i think kde4 on the moko might be interesting at some point too |
| 06:47.05 | raster | need to then support screen blank and auto-suspend and lock |
| 06:47.06 | raster | etc. |
| 06:47.10 | holycow | but i'll take anything over the frickin bb or wince device |
| 06:47.13 | raster | ut bit by bit the pieces will fall in place |
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| 06:49.17 | holycow | thank you very much for posting that raster |
| 06:49.39 | doc|home | so, can I have a phone yet? :( |
| 06:49.42 | doc|home | ;) |
| 06:50.30 | doc|home | raster: any chance you could change the grey text to a lighter gray? hard to read :/ |
| 06:53.27 | raster | doc|home: but it looks so nice! |
| 06:53.29 | raster | :( |
| 06:53.35 | doc|home | it does, nice, but hard to read :/ |
| 06:53.57 | doc|home | I've had to zoom the text to read it :/ |
| 06:54.03 | raster | :( |
| 06:54.19 | doc|home | or even just larger fonts would be good |
| 06:54.31 | doc|home | for me, not so much for those with bad eyesight perhaps :) |
| 06:54.31 | raster | waaaah |
| 06:54.34 | raster | the small font is nice |
| 06:54.57 | doc|home | so are small girls, but they tend to whine |
| 06:55.05 | doc|home | everything has a down side :) |
| 06:55.06 | raster | thats why u have minimum size options in your browser! :) |
| 06:55.10 | doc|home | and in my women |
| 06:55.13 | doc|home | ba doom tish! |
| 06:57.16 | raster | thats why u have options for your women :) |
| 06:57.29 | doc|home | not at this stage, any is good :( |
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| 06:58.19 | raster | hahahah |
| 06:58.32 | raster | then u can take my small dark women.. er i mean text! |
| 06:58.35 | raster | :) |
| 06:59.38 | doc|home | small dark women works for me! |
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| 06:59.45 | doc|home | not, like, slavery.... |
| 06:59.49 | doc|home | ;) |
| 07:00.41 | holycow | lo,l |
| 07:00.43 | holycow | oh boy |
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| 07:42.21 | zecke | raster: setting maximized on the dialog is evil as well. "Same as related main window" would be what I want :) |
| 07:43.43 | raster | there is no such hint tho |
| 07:43.52 | raster | not in ntwm or icccm |
| 07:43.54 | raster | netwm |
| 07:46.51 | zecke | raster: I know, even the notion of related main window is probably hard |
| 07:48.12 | raster | actually thats easy |
| 07:48.16 | raster | u have a group leader |
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| 07:48.21 | raster | or transient for |
| 07:50.12 | zecke | raster: yes, but I doubt it is correctly set up |
| 07:50.53 | raster | for qtopia? |
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| 07:55.42 | zecke | raster: yes, for Qtopia. WM_TRANSIENT_FOR is set on the window, the id looks to be something else though |
| 07:55.58 | raster | it could be an unmapped window |
| 07:56.01 | raster | or root |
| 07:56.18 | raster | often u will find it be an id for an unmapped window and all windows are transient for that if all are dialogs |
| 07:56.28 | raster | otherwise it SHOULd be the id of the toplevel it is adialog for |
| 07:56.42 | raster | Or be the root window id if it is not for a main window |
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| 07:57.47 | zecke | it is not the root window, and yes both the main app and the edit dialog have the same transient for |
| 07:58.17 | raster | using the group leader window then |
| 07:58.26 | raster | thats ok to make a group of windows for an app\ |
| 07:58.37 | raster | bad if u want the wm to go manage dialogs with RESPECt to the main window |
| 07:58.40 | raster | as the wm has no idea |
| 07:58.42 | raster | :) |
| 07:58.55 | zecke | hehe |
| 08:00.36 | raster | zecke: email for u |
| 08:00.38 | raster | :) |
| 08:01.42 | zecke | Spam, more valium for me |
| 08:01.52 | raster | the one from me |
| 08:01.53 | raster | :) |
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| 08:03.47 | zecke | raster: hehe, I wonder what foreigners mean |
| 08:04.02 | raster | not taiwanese |
| 08:04.03 | raster | :) |
| 08:04.09 | zecke | :( |
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| 08:04.47 | zecke | but sounds cool |
| 08:04.56 | raster | comes as a recommendation |
| 08:05.06 | raster | i heard of it before it was recommended too |
| 08:05.10 | raster | miht be worth a poke |
| 08:06.23 | zecke | hehe, yeah let us try that. I hope he is wrong on the foreigner's, or he referred to me as "cute foreigner" |
| 08:06.44 | Hopscotc1 | good morning |
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| 08:07.02 | holycow | you resemble that! |
| 08:08.11 | zecke | raster: oh, more Qtopia fun. Where to show CBS messages, ask for the pin, ask for the pin another time :) |
| 08:08.37 | zecke | raster: I probably write a Qtopia based e module ;) |
| 08:08.53 | raster | zecke: hahahahahahahahha |
| 08:09.30 | raster | well lets get the big nuts done |
| 08:09.53 | zecke | right, entering the PIN is a big one for me :) |
| 08:10.16 | raster | isnt that just a dialog window? |
| 08:10.37 | Hopscotch | raster: no, i'm for real :) |
| 08:10.51 | Hopscotch | just a very constant going life it seems |
| 08:11.09 | raster | Hopscotch: hahahahahahopevery time u join its the same good morning |
| 08:11.10 | zecke | raster: yes, but it is not a modal dialog, you have to trigger showing it. and e.g. it is fine to not enter a PIN at first but at a later time enter it... |
| 08:11.14 | raster | so i suspected u've automated that |
| 08:11.15 | raster | :) |
| 08:11.27 | Hopscotch | hehe - no, i type it by hand every morning :) |
| 08:11.33 | raster | zecke: umm isnt that up tothe app needing the pin? |
| 08:12.17 | zecke | raster: the app is the phoneserver that is talking to the modem |
| 08:12.32 | zecke | raster: and needing them is the adressbook, callforwarding, dialer, messaging :) |
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| 08:13.47 | tooo | hi |
| 08:13.50 | raster | well from a wm point of view |
| 08:13.57 | raster | thats between those apps and the phoneserver to negotiate |
| 08:13.58 | raster | :) |
| 08:14.06 | raster | pop up the dialog when u need the pin |
| 08:14.09 | raster | e will oblige |
| 08:14.09 | raster | :) |
| 08:14.43 | raster | now back to pondering where to put this softmenu logic stuff |
| 08:15.48 | zecke | raster: right it is, but what if the user wants to enter a pin to be able to receive phone calls? :) |
| 08:16.06 | raster | ugh |
| 08:16.25 | raster | lets ignore that |
| 08:16.25 | raster | :) |
| 08:16.49 | zecke | this is where I think, okay some kind of e module, with some place in the header, maybe even show signal strength, a click on it will... |
| 08:16.54 | raster | lets hope we have a better overall soultion before someone notices |
| 08:16.55 | raster | :) |
| 08:17.24 | raster | hmm the modules/gadgets at the top are really being overloaded atm. |
| 08:17.29 | raster | u click and drag them to re-arrange |
| 08:17.35 | raster | click to pop down the top bar |
| 08:17.43 | raster | (well clikc and release) |
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| 08:37.35 | zecke | raster: more issues for you :) |
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| 08:38.40 | TRIsoft | morning |
| 08:39.11 | raster | booo! |
| 08:39.24 | raster | TRIsoft: 'avo |
| 08:39.31 | TRIsoft | *scared* |
| 08:40.03 | zecke | raster: if a running app wants to raise() an existing window, illume is ignoring it :) |
| 08:40.26 | zecke | raster: I can create a Qtopia pager and send you a command :) |
| 08:41.20 | raster | indeed it is |
| 08:41.28 | raster | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:41.39 | raster | direct from the illume layout module modifications |
| 08:41.46 | raster | its forcibly locking in stacking |
| 08:41.57 | raster | i can disable that |
| 08:42.29 | raster | there |
| 08:42.39 | raster | now i need to work on this menu |
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| 09:03.49 | methril | morning |
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| 09:12.23 | zecke | hehe, three minutes playing with qtmail and already found some bugs... |
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| 09:25.20 | ScaredyCat | http://www.acc.umu.se/~emilk/ |
| 09:25.26 | ScaredyCat | cool :D |
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| 09:34.04 | zash | omg, want |
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| 09:37.25 | ScaredyCat | linux version is available zash - just need 3d acceleration though |
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| 09:45.58 | zash | :D |
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| 11:17.44 | Man_of_Wax | monotone.openmoko.org doesn't work or it's me? |
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| 11:34.39 | HdR | Man_of_Wax: it doesn't work for me as well |
| 11:35.07 | Man_of_Wax | HdR: ok thanks :D |
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| 11:38.35 | ScaredyCat | moo! |
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| 11:44.46 | ScaredyCat | working ok here |
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| 11:46.49 | Man_of_Wax | ScaredyCat: doesn't work for me. Maybe because i'm using my university internet connection. I dunno |
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| 11:54.27 | jamewill | ping rwhitby |
| 11:54.34 | jamewill | livelogs down for a few days i think |
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| 12:21.23 | Sup3rkiddo | hi all, is jalimo the java stuff to be done on Openmoko] |
| 12:21.28 | Sup3rkiddo | <--- java n00b |
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| 12:24.38 | mbuf | Sup3rkiddo, why java, when you can do python? |
| 12:25.08 | Gottox | why python when you can do C? :P |
| 12:25.30 | methril | why C when you can do assembler :) |
| 12:25.46 | mjr | why assembl_y_ when you can do machine language? |
| 12:25.59 | methril | oh! oh! oh!! :) |
| 12:26.11 | Gottox | why machine language when you can do it by hand? |
| 12:26.19 | Sup3rkiddo | why machine language when you can use the logic gates |
| 12:26.21 | zedstar | punched cards! |
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| 12:26.27 | Sup3rkiddo | this is getting lame "D |
| 12:26.37 | Gottox | Sup3rkiddo: just like Java. |
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| 12:26.57 | Sup3rkiddo | my friend asked me that...damn java programmers |
| 12:27.14 | Sup3rkiddo | mbuf, hi |
| 12:27.20 | mbuf | Sup3rkiddo, hi |
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| 12:29.04 | piksi | whee, and NOW i notice the screen size of freerunner |
| 12:30.36 | dennda | I wish I'd notice the thing being in my pocket |
| 12:31.28 | piksi | i wish it would have been of reasonable size. using stylus for writing is hard and using such a small screen for keyboard is even harder, 2,8" just isn't enough imo |
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| 12:31.46 | piksi | it's almost as small as the nintendo ds screen and i don't particularly enjoy writing on it either |
| 12:32.10 | dennda | it's a phone, not a tablet pc |
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| 12:32.16 | dennda | :) |
| 12:32.49 | piksi | dennda: well why then bother to run a clearly pda/tablet style system on it? :-) |
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| 13:32.33 | ScaredyCat | mwester-trip: you lied |
| 13:32.49 | mwester-trip | er... long lag? |
| 13:33.11 | ScaredyCat | no, in #oe ... just now... |
| 13:33.16 | ScaredyCat | you're here still ;) |
| 13:33.24 | mwester-trip | :D |
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| 13:34.29 | mwester-trip | I'm finding this business trip is appropriately timed; I am unable to work on the OM build issues, and it looks like you'll have them all worked out by the time I return. |
| 13:34.53 | ScaredyCat | hehehe |
| 13:36.03 | mwester-trip | Right-o. And America is *not* entering a recession. |
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| 13:37.33 | XorA | NOTE: package openmoko-devel-image-1.0: completed |
| 13:37.35 | XorA | see |
| 13:37.56 | mwester-trip | Does it actually have any dependencies left in it, though? :) |
| 13:38.36 | ScaredyCat | NOTE: package openmoko-devel-image-1.0: completely screwed up. |
| 13:38.59 | mwester-trip | (although I shall not miss the feed-reader et al in any way) |
| 13:39.11 | jamesbew | does anyone know the current status of the internal review of the FreeRunner?? |
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| 13:40.01 | mwester-trip | jamesbew: The best source of data that might be useful for speculation would be on the devel and kernel mailing lists; check the archives for those on openmoko.org |
| 13:40.53 | jamesbew | so there isn't any public output from the project then |
| 13:43.35 | mwester-trip | OM is careful not to make statements that they may regret regarding predicted dates. |
| 13:44.06 | mwester-trip | The "official" word is not yet availalble (or it's more like the official answe is "It will ship when it's ready" IIRC). |
| 13:44.44 | ScaredyCat | fecking gcc block |
| 13:44.45 | ScaredyCat | s |
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| 13:46.31 | mwester-trip | In a nutshell, they are currently evaluating a hardware version to see if the PCB can be used (there will be component-type changes required). I don't know what the criteria is for determining when the number of little problems exceeds the magic threshold that says another PCB spin needs to be made, but the sense one gets is that they very much wish to avoid that. The topic (above) gives... |
| 13:46.33 | mwester-trip | ...the date estimated by the community should the current PCB prove to be ok. |
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| 13:49.20 | emdete | hm, my gta02 has a imsi of 000000000000000 ...is that 'normal'? |
| 14:01.03 | XorA | emdete: well its pretty unique for an IMSI :-) |
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| 14:01.14 | XorA | emdete: but IMSI has nothing to do with the phone |
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| 14:10.12 | ScaredyCat | emdete: you need to send it to me so I an allocate / burn one ono it for you :P |
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| 14:11.23 | emdete | XorA: so it should work with that IMSI? |
| 14:11.34 | XorA | emdete: IMSI comes from the SIM |
| 14:11.38 | XorA | emdete: out of phone control |
| 14:12.00 | XorA | emdete: I wouldnt be surprised though if GTA02 IMEI was all zeros |
| 14:12.24 | emdete | ah, sry, mistaken that, yes, the imei |
| 14:12.39 | emdete | e like equipment, right? :D |
| 14:12.58 | XorA | yeah all zeros will work as long as your carrier doesnt ban non unique IMEI numbers (few do) |
| 14:13.20 | emdete | i can register but can't do a call nor receive one |
| 14:13.20 | XorA | emdete: yes (E)quipment |
| 14:13.33 | emdete | and s for subscriber. .... |
| 14:13.40 | XorA | emdete: whats the command to recover IMEI? |
| 14:14.34 | emdete | +CGSN most often... |
| 14:15.29 | XorA | can we send that with gsmtool? |
| 14:15.44 | emdete | XorA: i don't know gsmtool |
| 14:15.44 | XorA | or whatever that program is called, we dont all have your cool working gsmd :-) |
| 14:16.02 | emdete | XorA: just use cu or ...whatever |
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| 14:34.37 | ScaredyCat | has a new gllin been built yet ? |
| 14:34.57 | emdete | ScaredyCat: i thought there are symlinks in sysfs now |
| 14:35.10 | emdete | ScaredyCat: or which 'new' do you mean ;) |
| 14:35.26 | ScaredyCat | oh, ok.. I haven't been able to build of late so I haven;t tested that... |
| 14:35.39 | ScaredyCat | new - to fix that problem :) |
| 14:36.12 | emdete | the sysfs-problem? i think the original package has more issues than than ;) |
| 14:37.47 | ScaredyCat | :) |
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| 15:38.50 | ScaredyCat | cheeses |
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| 15:44.30 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4175 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/src/phone-kit/moko-network.c: openmoko-dialer2: modify Registering for Network name (Erin Yueh) |
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| 15:46.52 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03olv * r4176 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (14 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:46.52 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 2008-03-06 Chia-I Wu <olv@openmoko.com> |
| 15:46.52 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Preliminary support for phonebook. Sync phonebook from the SIM card |
| 15:46.52 | CIA-16 | openmoko: on start up. This is not a "perfect" solution. See bug #1238. |
| 15:46.53 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * src/phone-kit/moko-listener.c, src/phone-kit/moko-listener.h |
| 15:46.56 | CIA-16 | openmoko: (moko_listener_on_read_phonebook): New function to listen to phonebook |
| 15:46.58 | CIA-16 | openmoko: messages. |
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| 16:09.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1253 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com |
| 16:09.02 | cdbot2 | * * Mysterious green lines on screen |
| 16:09.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1253 |
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| 16:21.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1254 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com |
| 16:21.02 | cdbot2 | * * Flickering on screen |
| 16:21.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1254 |
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| 17:09.33 | zdanek | hi all |
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| 17:57.13 | PBeck | hallo |
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| 18:27.28 | wurp2 | Is anyone using the build from 3/4 or around then? |
| 18:27.48 | wurp2 | 'cause I just tried to play mp3s for the first time since my update, and every one I've tried gives a gstreamer error |
| 18:27.54 | wurp2 | All of them worked before I updated |
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| 18:42.53 | CM | I'm trying to build a new image from scratch now, just removed my tmp dir |
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| 18:56.38 | kdean06 | wurp2, The 03 March 2008 build? Yes. :) |
| 18:56.50 | kdean06 | wurp2, I had no sound at all. |
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| 19:01.02 | kdean06 | I've not done any reviews (no time) but I've played with almost all of the images. |
| 19:01.43 | kdean06 | My father-in-law (59, relatively fit, exercises daily) ended up with an unexpected triple bypass. O_O |
| 19:02.54 | ewon | yikes |
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| 19:43.15 | wurp2 | kdean06: Ouch, I'm very sorry to hear that! |
| 19:43.25 | wurp2 | Now that you mention it, my phone doesn't ring; it just vibrates |
| 19:43.33 | wurp2 | I just thought I was answering it before the ring started |
| 19:43.53 | wurp2 | The problem is, calling seems very stable in the 3/4 image, so I'm reluctant to switch :-) |
| 19:44.12 | kdean06 | wurp2, Most stable image I've used to date for calls is 28 Feb 2008. |
| 19:44.22 | kdean06 | Though I really need to report all the bugs I've found. :) |
| 19:44.36 | kdean06 | wurp2, Wanna kill your ability to make calls? Add a number. :P |
| 19:45.11 | kdean06 | 7031234567 would be a phone number. doing 70312345678 causes it to crap itself. :) |
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| 19:50.46 | wurp2 | Add a number? |
| 19:50.49 | wurp2 | To the contact list? |
| 19:51.09 | wurp2 | I really probably don't want to kill my ability to make calls ;-) |
| 19:54.44 | wurp2 | kdean06: Oh, and sound certainly works in the 3/4 image for calls, at least |
| 19:54.55 | wurp2 | I mean, for the conversation part of the calls |
| 19:55.26 | wurp2 | I think that bypasses pulseaudio (among other things) and I know there was a recent pulseaudio patch, so maybe that's the issue |
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| 19:56.40 | mjr | yeah call audio doesn't (normally) entre the whole soc |
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| 20:36.18 | NineX | http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=ls4F_QXmMso |
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| 20:42.10 | dcordes | NineX, that's just awesome |
| 20:48.23 | NineX | dcordes: :> |
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| 22:35.08 | wurp2 | dcordes: Uh, what the hell made that awesome? |
| 22:35.17 | mmontour | Does anyone have a workaround for this build failure? ERROR: QA Issue: WebKitGtk.pc failed sanity test (tmpdir) in path /myth/OpenMoko4/build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/pkgconfig |
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| 22:48.27 | dcordes | wurp2, I tried to be sarcastic |
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| 22:52.36 | CIA-16 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickeyl * r91 10/trunk/ (specifications/ standards/): rename standards to specifications, we're not a standards body! |
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| 23:12.40 | rtm_ | Is there anyone online who has experience writing applications code which calls the gpsd service library libgps (or libgpsd) ? |
| 23:13.07 | rtm_ | (under openmoko, of course) |
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| 23:30.22 | zedstar | whats the application rtm is there a reason not to interface to it higher up? |
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| 23:33.03 | rtm_ | Well, I may just not understand what I should be doing. I've written a little application that displays the night sky (constellations, etc). I want it to be able to use the GPS receiver to figure out where it is, and display the appropriate sky. My guess is that the right way to do that is to call the gpsd applications interface in the library, but I may be wrong. For example, if gpsd writes the current position under /proc |
| 23:33.03 | rtm_ | or somewhere else, I could just read it that way. I don't know what the options are. |
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| 23:33.40 | SpeedEvil | rtm_: xephem? |
| 23:33.49 | SpeedEvil | rtm_: oh - never mind - misread |
| 23:34.06 | zedstar | rtm u can simply read the position from gpsd over tcp connection |
| 23:34.11 | rtm_ | Right now I parse the NMEA stream myself, which I know for sure is stupid. |
| 23:34.11 | Ebbe | rtm_: d-bus? |
| 23:34.51 | zedstar | rtm it is a very simple text protocol u just connect on the correct port and send command |
| 23:35.03 | rtm_ | Is the protocol for requesting the information via TCP described somewhere? |
| 23:35.19 | zedstar | rtm yeh shud be on gpsd homepage |
| 23:35.38 | rtm_ | OK, zedstar, thaks very much. |
| 23:35.51 | rtm_ | (thanks very much) |
| 23:36.03 | zedstar | rtm but it is something simple like u send p/n to get position |
| 23:36.54 | zedstar | rtm u can of course just test it by telneting to gpsd and entering the commands in |
| 23:38.02 | broedje | now is th opportunity for you to tell me your opinion: tomorrow i'll get my a780 |
| 23:38.11 | wurp2 | dcordes: Oh, cool. It just really gets under my skin to see people finding amusement in watching someone behaving like an evil ass to someone else |
| 23:40.15 | broedje | what is the price for an openmoko? lets say... developer edition? not to compare with the crappy moto, but just for interest? |
| 23:41.07 | broedje | 300 EURO with wifi eh? |
| 23:41.24 | dcordes | broedje, openmoko is just the system that is designed to run on neo1973 (the phone) |
| 23:41.59 | rtm_ | And the neo1973s are sold out, I think. |
| 23:42.26 | broedje | yaaa, gnaawudimean |
| 23:42.50 | wurp2 | broedje: $300 US |
| 23:43.06 | wurp2 | Shouldn't be 300 euro, unless you get a lot of VAT |
| 23:45.05 | wurp2 | You can bu them from other owners on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/P1_Buying_Interest_List |
| 23:45.14 | wurp2 | s/bu /buy / |
| 23:46.41 | broedje | well, who is the guy on ebay selling for 300 euro... |
| 23:46.50 | broedje | argh i need to sell that moto, repaired, and get one neo |
| 23:46.52 | broedje | its a good price, as a HC dev, may i get one crushed piece with working gsm for less, has someone one left? say 100 Euro? |
| 23:46.55 | broedje | or some more.. |
| 23:46.59 | broedje | pleeeeaaaaaaseeeeee ;;-PP |
| 23:47.01 | broedje | cool |
| 23:47.18 | wurp2 | You can get a 1973 on the page i sent you for less than 300 eu, I'm sure |
| 23:48.25 | wurp2 | broedje: Try posting on the device-owner list, looking for one with a broken screen or whatever |
| 23:49.44 | broedje | grml |
| 23:50.07 | broedje | i m not THAT hc |
| 23:50.37 | broedje | to confess im not hc at all, i just discovered the deskless desktop |
| 23:51.00 | broedje | ACTION floattt |
| 23:51.58 | broedje | huh do i need to register there? |
| 23:52.42 | broedje | links2 says : there is currently no text on this page |
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