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| 01:02.00 | sagacis | Anybody here tonight? |
| 01:03.22 | Mononoke | Z.z |
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| 01:11.59 | SpeedEvil | what? |
| 01:12.55 | sagacis | gpsd isn't included with the nice toolchain, and 2.34 seems to be what we should use, but I can't get the libgps callback set up right in my app |
| 01:13.07 | sagacis | I'm also just past the Ballmer peak, so that might have something to do with it. |
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| 08:59.10 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 10:52.06 | Mandarino | Hi |
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| 14:14.48 | CM | Nice, new u-boot :) |
| 14:16.32 | borg_ | can it boot from sdhc? :) |
| 14:17.06 | josch | CM, any important feature adds? |
| 14:18.21 | mickeyl | Obri: ping |
| 14:20.44 | mickeyl | accumulated bug fixes |
| 14:21.21 | josch | in ubootß |
| 14:21.22 | josch | ? |
| 14:21.46 | mickeyl | ya |
| 14:21.56 | josch | wow, never even found one ^^ |
| 14:22.26 | mickeyl | well, there was the usb-hang regression, some sd problems, some gfx regressions |
| 14:22.54 | josch | nice to know them fixed but me has no debugboard anymore :-D |
| 14:23.33 | mickeyl | which version do you run currently? |
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| 14:23.46 | josch | a very recent one... wait... |
| 14:24.46 | josch | svnr3692 - 27. dec 07 |
| 14:25.17 | josch | and even my old one from july or so never did sth unexpected ^^ |
| 14:27.46 | mickeyl | yeah, your newer one has fixed some regressions and your older one didn't expose the bugs |
| 14:27.48 | mickeyl | lucky one |
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| 14:29.14 | jeddy3 | CM, you have moved your stuff to STHLM? |
| 14:29.26 | CM | jeddy3: Yes, all of it :) |
| 14:29.35 | jeddy3 | CM, nic |
| 14:29.36 | jeddy3 | e |
| 14:29.54 | jeddy3 | you live at your GF's place? |
| 14:29.55 | CM | Bor vid Sabbatsbergs sjukhus |
| 14:30.07 | CM | Yes, 38 roomy sqm... |
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| 14:31.21 | jeddy3 | CM relativt centralt iaf :) |
| 14:31.33 | jeddy3 | eller väldigt centralt |
| 14:31.42 | CM | Heh, jo, en kvart att gå till jobbet |
| 14:32.05 | Vegar | en kvart? what's that? |
| 14:32.10 | Vegar | 15 minutes or 250 meters? |
| 14:32.11 | jeddy3 | :D |
| 14:32.15 | CM | 15 min |
| 14:32.18 | jeddy3 | Vegar, 15 minuters |
| 14:32.19 | jeddy3 | -r |
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| 14:32.28 | Vegar | I see |
| 14:32.34 | CM | jeddy3: Hehe.. Minuters låter bra ;) |
| 14:32.53 | jeddy3 | CM mmm...lite svengelska där :P |
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| 15:19.21 | Crashbit | hello i have an answer, i install the latest kernel and rootfs for my neo1973. |
| 15:20.02 | Crashbit | Date: 12 january, but when i reestart the phone, sounds don't work, the touchscreen sound and call sound don't work |
| 15:20.14 | Crashbit | sorry but i'm spanish and my english is very poor |
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| 15:21.46 | SpeedEvil | What software version have you installed? |
| 15:22.54 | Crashbit | mm uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11+svnr3801-r13-neo1973.bin and OpenMoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080112-fic-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 |
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| 15:24.13 | SpeedEvil | Crashbit: others have reported that it doesn't work in recent builds - I haven't investigated |
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| 15:28.46 | Crashbit | m thanks SpeedEvil in other recent builds the sound not work. |
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| 15:30.54 | Crashbit | Not if ahy some solution to be able to speak with the telephone, since the sounds do not work |
| 15:31.14 | SpeedEvil | I'm sorry - I haven't tried to fix it - so I can't comment. |
| 15:32.45 | Crashbit | ok |
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| 15:35.03 | yeliz | slm |
| 15:35.32 | yeliz | . |
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| 15:36.29 | Sup3rkiddo | halo all |
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| 15:37.47 | Crashbit | only one asks more, the problem roots in the kernel or in the rootfs? |
| 15:38.02 | Crashbit | *have |
| 15:38.30 | SpeedEvil | Don't know. Have you played with alsactl - to change the volumes? |
| 15:42.26 | Crashbit | when i use alsamixer it says : function snd_ctl_open failed for default:no such device |
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| 15:48.00 | mickeyl | sounds like you have a mismatch of kernel and modules |
| 15:48.05 | mickeyl | check /lib/modules |
| 15:48.07 | mickeyl | and uname -a |
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| 15:56.58 | Crashbit | hiz |
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| 16:50.06 | sagacis | Do we know if Mickey ever got the gsmd working on the a780? |
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| 17:06.33 | sagacis | mickeyl: Hi! Does the gsmd work on the a780? |
| 17:06.59 | mickeyl | hi. unfortunately not yet. there's still some problems with the in-kernel MUXer on the EZX platform |
| 17:07.46 | sagacis | Ah, bummer. I got an a780 to have 850MHz band access. I was hopeful. Do you know how QTopia runs on it? I'll probably just stick with OpenEZX, but I thought I could share development efforts. |
| 17:13.47 | mickeyl | never tried qtopia on it |
| 17:14.03 | mickeyl | i don't think there's much missing from openezx to become usable |
| 17:14.08 | mickeyl | we're close |
| 17:14.16 | mickeyl | hopefully just a couple of months |
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| 18:17.05 | CIA-1 | openmoko: 03werner * r3821 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:17.05 | CIA-1 | openmoko: Apply global addition of (NOLOAD) to BSS section in linker scripts. |
| 18:17.05 | CIA-1 | openmoko: (In recent upstream. Catch-up still in progress.) |
| 18:17.05 | CIA-1 | openmoko: uboot-20061030-neo1973.patch: |
| 18:17.05 | CIA-1 | openmoko: - board/neo1973/gta01/u-boot.lds: set .bss type to NOLOAD |
| 18:17.06 | CIA-1 | openmoko: uboot-hxd8.patch: |
| 18:17.10 | CIA-1 | openmoko: - board/hxd8/u-boot.lds: set .bss type to NOLOAD |
| 18:20.09 | CoreDump | FWIW, I just flashed said u-boot and it works |
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| 18:21.16 | CIA-1 | openmoko: 03werner * r3822 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/scripts/build: Updated to GIT_HEAD 6d714f82fb4b8bb7e267e9c71b8009bc670bfe88 and SVN_REV 3821. |
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| 18:37.39 | cesarb | Great, there are TWO different HCLK on the LDC controller chapter, and no effort is made to distinguish between them |
| 18:39.26 | cesarb | It also has utterly unexplained magic values at some points |
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| 18:42.38 | PBeck | hi |
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| 19:01.06 | RayDar | If I wanted to develop an application for my phone, where should I start? |
| 19:01.35 | RayDar | Is OpenGL available or going to be available? |
| 19:02.04 | RayDar | Who invented liquid soap, and why? |
| 19:02.28 | Ganneff | opengl. on a phone. with only few mhz. how slow do you want graphics to appear? :) |
| 19:03.01 | borg_ | RayDar: you should look at the toolchain http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain |
| 19:03.31 | borg_ | RayDar: there will be a gpu in FreeRunner, so opengl will be possible there someday, probably |
| 19:03.38 | mjr | The drivers shouldn't be expected any time soon, but the gta02 gpu will be opengl es capable, though only with a 512x512 rendering window without driver workarounds |
| 19:04.40 | borg_ | RayDar: liquid soap was introduced in 1980 by Minnetonka Corporation |
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| 19:07.45 | RayDar | Ganneff: The idea is to speed up the graphics. Especially eye-candy stuff that consumers are becoming more expectant of. |
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| 19:08.07 | Ganneff | i wonder why all those "consumers" are like that. its a phone, damnit :) |
| 19:08.45 | RayDar | mjr: Thanks for the nfo. I am still not sure where to start in developing an app. There must be an SDK or something. |
| 19:09.39 | RayDar | borg_: I was suspecting the Rand corporation might have had something to do with it. |
| 19:16.06 | cesarb | Does anyone know if there's a problem in driving the LCM with a slower refresh frequency? CLKVAL is already near the minimum (HCLK/4; the only other step available would be HCLK/2), and lowering the FCLK/HCLK will lower the clock a lot. |
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| 19:47.06 | schurig_home | RayDar, borg_: that's a quite US-centric view. Liquid soap is much older, e.g. over 30 years ago I heard about liquid soaps in germany (e.g. "Vorwerk Schmierseife"). |
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| 20:07.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1179 has been created by audriusa(AT)bluewin.ch |
| 20:07.02 | cdbot2 | * * Mobile phone hands after 'shutdown now' from the command line |
| 20:07.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1179 |
| 20:07.25 | borg_ | schurig_home: right, that was just the first google hit ;) |
| 20:07.51 | borg_ | schurig_home: i am from germany.. :P and right, i know schmierseife of course :) |
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| 20:11.44 | schurig_home | borg_: do you also still know the TV game show "Spiel ohne Grenzen" (Games without limits/borders) ??? They used liberal amounts of Schmierseife (smear soap) :-) |
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| 20:21.31 | yoyo | hello all |
| 20:28.12 | borg_ | schurig_home: sure :) |
| 20:48.59 | yoyo | sleep |
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| 20:55.08 | orsonork | hello |
| 20:55.15 | orsonork | i want to know more about openmoko |
| 20:55.18 | orsonork | it's an amazing project |
| 20:55.54 | orsonork | i have been reading some articles |
| 20:56.06 | orsonork | i will try to boot neo with qemu |
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| 21:39.58 | matthew | does the 1973 currently support SDHC? |
| 21:43.22 | borg_ | yes |
| 21:43.28 | borg_ | i use a 4gb sdhc from sandisk |
| 21:43.32 | borg_ | works like a charm :) |
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| 21:43.51 | borg_ | there is a list of working sd cards in the wiki |
| 21:44.52 | borg_ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards |
| 21:46.40 | matthew | i have a 8gb sandisk |
| 21:47.13 | SpeedEvil | yes it does SDHC |
| 21:47.17 | SpeedEvil | does yours work? |
| 21:47.45 | matthew | don't have the phone |
| 21:50.03 | SpeedEvil | matthew: mail me it, and I'll check it, and return it in a couple of months :) |
| 21:50.25 | matthew | heh, i'm sure you would |
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| 21:50.44 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: hi |
| 21:50.49 | SpeedEvil | hi |
| 21:51.07 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: coded so far: core, time, serial, lcd. Tested so far: nothing. |
| 21:51.16 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: :) |
| 21:51.23 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: you've a debug board I assume? |
| 21:51.33 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: yeah. never used it, however |
| 21:51.53 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: didn't even break the small piece of paper with a red X ;-) |
| 22:01.34 | cesarb | hm, flash-qemu-local seems to be broken |
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| 22:15.08 | rwhitby | cesarb: how so? |
| 22:17.07 | cesarb | rwhitby: the new uboot is probably misworking |
| 22:17.24 | cesarb | rwhitby: it timeouts after doing what seems no forward progress at all |
| 22:17.43 | raster | hrrrm |
| 22:17.53 | raster | why has my desktop suddenly decided its 1hr earlier |
| 22:18.23 | cesarb | rwhitby: I'm using my slow saturated connection to do a flash-qemu-official, which should work after a couple of hours of downloading |
| 22:18.29 | cesarb | raster: outdated tzdata? |
| 22:18.53 | raster | cesarb: apt-get dist-upgraded yesterday |
| 22:18.56 | raster | shouldnt be |
| 22:18.58 | raster | ... |
| 22:19.01 | raster | :/ |
| 22:19.19 | cesarb | raster: if you are in debian, that only applies if you have the volatile repository |
| 22:19.24 | cesarb | raster: which is NOT the default |
| 22:19.34 | cesarb | raster: on ubuntu, you need -updates; -security isn't enough |
| 22:20.14 | raster | hmm |
| 22:20.18 | raster | well ran ntpdate by hand |
| 22:20.20 | raster | happy now |
| 22:20.48 | raster | aaah the joy of daylight savingsa |
| 22:20.55 | raster | i wish it would just be killed off |
| 22:21.10 | mwester-laptop | +1 from me. |
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| 22:23.48 | cesarb | raster: ah, and check if your distro is set to use the RTC as GMT instead of local time; having the RTC with local time (as some other operating system does) tends to cause trouble with summer time/DST transitions |
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| 22:31.34 | raster | cesarb: well its ubuntu |
| 22:31.40 | raster | so dunno |
| 22:31.45 | raster | i havent paid much attention to that |
| 22:31.47 | raster | either way |
| 22:31.50 | raster | clock is fixed now |
| 22:31.51 | raster | happy |
| 22:31.52 | raster | :) |
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| 22:42.44 | raster | ljp: lucky you |
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| 22:55.31 | unstable | Is the GTA02 out? Can I buy it and get a plan with some telecom etc, and it will work? |
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| 22:58.24 | SpeedEvil | no,no,no |
| 22:58.31 | SpeedEvil | well, no,no,maybe |
| 22:58.50 | raster | the last one only if your telco allows u to get just a sim card |
| 22:58.56 | raster | and an account with that |
| 22:59.22 | raster | tho technically u can get a plan - you may be forced to buy a phone with the plan as the teclo has no "byo" schemes |
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| 23:12.36 | borg_ | unstable: it depends highly from where you are |
| 23:12.52 | borg_ | in germany it is very common to just buy a sim card without a phone |
| 23:13.01 | borg_ | in the usa, as i heard, it is very uncommon |
| 23:13.20 | raster | in japan it's impossible |
| 23:13.41 | borg_ | thats bad for the japanese people |
| 23:13.42 | unstable | borg_: I'm in New York |
| 23:13.54 | raster | borg_: they dont seem to mind |
| 23:13.54 | unstable | ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint |
| 23:14.37 | raster | they have some of the most advanced phones around |
| 23:14.50 | ewon | just get the cheapest, nastiest phone possible with your plan |
| 23:15.00 | ewon | AT&T gave me a RAZR free when I signed up |
| 23:15.08 | ewon | I yanked the sim out and put it in my 6310i |
| 23:15.16 | raster | they have 2+mpixel cameras when most "western" phones were still considering "vga" res cameras to be "high quality" |
| 23:18.51 | SpeedEvil | ewon: that can be unlocked, and sell it on ebay |
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| 23:27.42 | cesarb | looks like the NAND controller will be a problem for cpufreq. The debug line printed while running on qemu says Twrph0=8, which is already the maximum (and would have to be increased for lower clocks) |
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| 23:29.22 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: as I understood it - the CPU main bus will simply slow down, as will the DRAM. |
| 23:29.54 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: at 50Mhz - the bus will be running at 50Mhz - which will make the RAM consume mildly more power per bit output. |
| 23:30.40 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: I note that 's3c410 speed 50' in the u-boot serial - actually does work. |
| 23:30.50 | SpeedEvil | (exact command wrong) |
| 23:31.50 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: I'm looking at NAND, not DRAM |
| 23:31.56 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: ah |
| 23:32.03 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: I don't think I looked at that. |
| 23:32.03 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: the NAND controller has three timing parameters |
| 23:32.28 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: one of them is already at the maximum for gta01-core.patch, if the kernel I just ran on qemu calculated everything right. however, |
| 23:33.03 | cesarb | it looks like it's a conservative value - the NAND chip datasheet (assuming it's the correct datasheet) is giving me values of 40 to 25 (the value on gta01-core.patch is 60) |
| 23:33.22 | cesarb | (the exact value depends on the voltage and on another of the values) |
| 23:33.57 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: so, it's quite possible that we cannot run the NAND controller on slow mode :( (but I should make some more calculations before being sure) |
| 23:34.04 | SpeedEvil | Is that a minimum? |
| 23:34.19 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: yes, and there's no maximum |
| 23:35.40 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: page 14 of the flash datasheet (ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf) and page 213 of the soc datasheet (993579um_s3c2410a_rev11.pdf) |
| 23:37.06 | cesarb | the SoC values are TACLS, TWRPH0, TWRPH1, which correspond to tCS, tWP, tCH on the flash datasheet |
| 23:37.33 | SpeedEvil | I can't look at them at the moment. |
| 23:37.48 | SpeedEvil | (lousy small display) |
| 23:37.53 | SpeedEvil | (no, not 2.8") |
| 23:37.58 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: lol |
| 23:39.43 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: the values for tCS and tCH are 10, while on gta01-core they are 20 (tCS can be 0 but then you need a longer tWP) |
| 23:40.17 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: the values for tWP are 40, 25, 25 for 1.8V, 2.7V, 3.3V |
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| 23:41.58 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: and on gta01-core it's 60 |
| 23:42.24 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: and here's what qemu outputs: s3c2410-nand s3c2410-nand: Tacls=3, 22ns Twrph0=8 60ns, Twrph1=3 22ns |
| 23:43.50 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: the maximum TACLS is 4, the maximum for the other two are 8. They are multiplied by HCLK (they are counting HCLK cycles) |
| 23:43.53 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: I don't know - I can only say that it does in fact work at 50Mhz |
| 23:44.30 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: the kernel doesn't give an error while setting these registers? |
| 23:44.39 | SpeedEvil | The kernel isn't awake then |
| 23:44.44 | SpeedEvil | u-boot sets them |
| 23:44.54 | SpeedEvil | it's documented on the u-boot page of the wiki |
| 23:45.11 | SpeedEvil | I don't think the kernel touches them at all |
| 23:47.11 | cesarb | hm, booting at 50MHz on qemu gives me "s3c2410-nand s3c2410-nand: Tacls=2, 40ns Twrph0=4 80ns, Twrph1=2 40ns"... the multipliers DECREASED? |
| 23:47.33 | SpeedEvil | they are not multipliers I thought - but divisors |
| 23:47.39 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: the kernel does change the NAND registers... |
| 23:48.01 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: well - it booted and worked 'normally' (screen was flickery) |
| 23:48.19 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: makes sense. I might have gotten confused with 1/s versus s |
| 23:49.03 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: so, in fact, running on SLOW the times would only get even longer, with no adverse effects |
| 23:49.36 | SpeedEvil | If hte datasheet for the nand does not give maximum times |
| 23:49.53 | SpeedEvil | Some chips are happy with the inputs changing statically - down to 1Hz or below. |
| 23:50.07 | SpeedEvil | As long as all the timing constraints on the edges are met. |
| 23:50.25 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: there are no maximum times, so that's no problem. It might only get confusing if the edge is too slow, but I don't think that would be an issue even down to 1MHz |
| 23:50.41 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: typed faster than me ;-) |
| 23:57.00 | cesarb | "PCLK should be more than 20MHz to use USB Device Controller stably." <- great, so no slow mode when plugged in |
| 23:58.11 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: PCLK is a divisor off FCLK isn't it? |
| 23:58.34 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: PCLK is divided from HCLK which is divided from FCLK |
| 23:58.44 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: even if we use the 1:1:1 mode, SLOW is too... slow. |
| 23:59.04 | SpeedEvil | It'd be nice if the clocking was a hair more flexible. |
| 23:59.23 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: agreed :D |
| 23:59.31 | SpeedEvil | From memory, the slowest 'recommended' clock speed is 36Mhz |
| 23:59.37 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: or at least if we didn't have to "stop the world" before changing the clocks |
| 23:59.39 | SpeedEvil | the output of the PLL that is. |
| 23:59.54 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: yeah, to get lower than that you have to bypass the PLL |