| 00:08.31 | xzcvczx | /oops/msg roh hey.... are you able to just check your diagram for the debug connector on people.om.org as i just had a look at the phone and it Looks like the modem is pin1 & pin3 not pin2 & pin3 |
| 00:08.35 | xzcvczx | oh ffa |
| 00:08.37 | xzcvczx | oh ffs |
| 00:09.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1116 has been created by cwixon(AT)usa.net |
| 00:09.01 | cdbot2 | * * busybox 1.2.1 is old and broken -- 1.7.2 works fine |
| 00:09.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1116 |
| 00:09.31 | quicksand | lol |
| 00:10.14 | ckuethe | no, just unlucky |
| 00:10.37 | xzcvczx | thanks ckuethe |
| 00:11.09 | xzcvczx | ckuethe: yeah almost did it once before and when people do it's like "uhhhhh can everyone forget that please" |
| 00:11.33 | xzcvczx | as they are going round rapidly changing all their passwords |
| 00:11.45 | quicksand | I've seen enough 'cd ~/moko; make xyzzy ... oops, wrong terminal' around here to know how easy it is |
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| 00:12.31 | SpeedEvil | I once - under heavy swapping - committed my most secret password to IRC. |
| 00:12.37 | Mek | I sometimes accidentilly type ":q" on irc :) |
| 00:13.07 | SpeedEvil | There then followed the 'unplug the outside network cable, and change seventeen passwords' dance. |
| 00:13.39 | quicksand | Good call on the cable-unplug maneuver. I probably would sit there paralyzed for a few minutes before doing anything. |
| 00:13.41 | xzcvczx | haha while everyone else was going into your email |
| 00:14.30 | xzcvczx | i would do one way firewall up change all my external stuff then work on the internal |
| 00:15.56 | quicksand | I figure if I'm tired/drunk/stupid enough to cut loose a password on a public channel, then I better use the Ultimate Hardware Firewall (i.e. power off) and deal with it later. |
| 00:16.45 | xzcvczx | quicksand: what about the external stuff like webmail passwords etc |
| 00:17.01 | quicksand | Yeah, well, then I'd be hosed. ;-) |
| 00:17.21 | quicksand | Good thing I'm not an IT admin. |
| 00:17.35 | quicksand | (for anyone other than myself, that is.) |
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| 01:50.40 | bkruse | hey guys |
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| 03:54.36 | Mek | hmm.. anybody knows where/how the toolchain ends up when running 'make openmoko-toolchain'? |
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| 04:12.45 | linuxxr | yup its lookoig good |
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| 05:08.56 | daMaestro | ScaredyCat, ping |
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| 05:44.51 | vikas | hi guys |
| 05:44.58 | vikas | i just finished my first build of openmoko |
| 05:45.30 | vikas | but i got an error when i ran 'make qemu-local' |
| 05:45.36 | vikas | the error is like so: |
| 05:45.44 | vikas | openmoko/flash.sh: line 96: kill: (-30771) - No such process |
| 05:45.45 | vikas | U-boot failed to finish writing in 120 seconds, giving up. |
| 05:45.45 | vikas | make: *** [flash-qemu-local] Error 255 |
| 05:45.52 | vikas | any idea what the issue is? |
| 05:46.04 | Mek | can you paste-bin a bit more output? |
| 05:46.41 | vikas | is there a website for the pastebin? |
| 05:46.45 | vikas | or is it a bot? |
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| 05:50.03 | SpeedEvil | pastebin.com |
| 05:50.09 | SpeedEvil | as one of many examples |
| 05:50.17 | SpeedEvil | a website that you can paste stuff to |
| 05:50.30 | SpeedEvil | and others cna read it without clogging up channels |
| 05:50.45 | vikas | SpeedEvil: thanks |
| 05:52.04 | vikas | Mek: here's the URL: [ -x splashimg.pl ] |
| 05:52.04 | vikas | [ -s System_boot.png ] |
| 05:52.04 | vikas | ./splashimg.pl System_boot.png > splash |
| 05:52.04 | vikas | 480 x 640 (255) |
| 05:52.07 | vikas | gzip -c < splash > splash.gz |
| 05:52.10 | vikas | make[1]: Leaving directory `/media/disk/backup/moko/build/qemu/openmoko' |
| 05:52.13 | vikas | Using 'uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11+svnr3238-r9-neo1973.bin' as the kernel image. |
| 05:52.15 | vikas | Using 'OpenMoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20071211-fic-gta01.rootfs.jffs2' as the root filesystem image. |
| 05:52.19 | vikas | Using 'u-boot-gta01bv4-1.2.0+gitf34024d4a328e6edd906456da98d2c537155c4f7+svn2943-r1.bin' as bootloader. |
| 05:52.22 | vikas | make[1]: Entering directory `/media/disk/backup/moko/build/qemu/openmoko' |
| 05:52.24 | vikas | # Making an empty/erased flash image. Need a correct echo behavior. |
| 05:52.27 | vikas | echo -en \\0377\\0377\\0377\\0377\\0377\\0377\\0377\\0377 > .8b |
| 05:52.32 | vikas | cat .8b .8b > .16b # OOB is 16 bytes |
| 05:52.33 | xcasex | ... |
| 05:52.34 | vikas | cat .16b .16b .16b .16b .16b .16b .16b .16b > .512b |
| 05:52.37 | vikas | cat .16b .16b .16b .16b .16b .16b .16b .16b >> .512b |
| 05:52.47 | vikas | cat .512b .16b > .sec # A sector is 512 bytes of data + OOB |
| 05:52.49 | vikas | cat .sec .sec .sec .sec .sec .sec .sec .sec > .8sec |
| 05:52.54 | vikas | cat .8sec .8sec .8sec .8sec .8sec .8sec .8sec .8sec > .64sec |
| 05:52.56 | vikas | cat .64sec .64sec .64sec .64sec .64sec .64sec .64sec .64sec > .512sec |
| 05:52.59 | vikas | cat .512sec .512sec .512sec .512sec > .2ksec |
| 05:53.02 | vikas | cat .2ksec .2ksec .2ksec .2ksec .2ksec .2ksec .2ksec .2ksec > .16ksec |
| 05:53.05 | vikas | # Neo NAND is 128k sectors big |
| 05:53.08 | vikas | cat .16ksec .16ksec .16ksec .16ksec .16ksec .16ksec .16ksec .16ksec > openmoko-flash.base |
| 05:53.10 | vikas | rm -rf .8b .16b .512b .sec .8sec .64sec .512sec .2ksec .16ksec |
| 05:53.13 | vikas | make[1]: Leaving directory `/media/disk/backup/moko/build/qemu/openmoko' |
| 05:53.16 | vikas | Please wait, programming the NAND flash... |
| 05:53.19 | vikas | neo_gsm_switch: GSM disabled. |
| 05:53.22 | vikas | U-Boot 1.3.0-rc11.2.0+gitf34024d4a328e6edd906456da98d2c537155c4f7+svn2943 (Dec 11 2007 - 09:21:05) |
| 05:53.26 | vikas | DRAM: 128 MB |
| 05:53.29 | vikas | NAND: Bad block table not found for chip 0 |
| 05:53.32 | vikas | Bad block table not found for chip 0 |
| 05:53.35 | vikas | 64 MiB |
| 05:53.39 | vikas | *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment |
| 05:53.40 | vikas | Video: 640x480x8 31kHz 59Hz |
| 05:53.43 | vikas | USB: S3C2410 USB Deviced |
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| 05:53.46 | vikas | mtdparts variable not set, see 'help mtdparts' |
| 05:54.02 | vikas | In: serial |
| 05:54.05 | vikas | Out: serial |
| 05:54.09 | vikas | Err: serial |
| 05:54.10 | vikas | pcf_write: charging in Qualification Mode. |
| 05:54.13 | vikas | pcf_write: charge voltage 4.20V. |
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| 05:54.16 | vikas | neo_lcd_rst_switch: LCD reset. |
| 05:54.18 | mbuf | vikas, don't flood the channel! use rafb.net or pastebin.ca! |
| 05:54.19 | vikas | jbt6k74_command: Display on. |
| 05:54.22 | vikas | neo_vib_switch: Buzz, buzz. |
| 05:54.26 | vikas | neo_vib_switch: Vibrator stopped. |
| 05:54.29 | vikas | neo_bl_switch: LCD Backlight now on. |
| 05:54.32 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # |
| 05:54.36 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # |
| 05:54.36 | gi-el | mbuf: he obviously tried, but this was in the copy buffer instead of the url |
| 05:54.39 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # setenv dontask y |
| 05:54.39 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # nand createbbt |
| 05:54.43 | vikas | Create BBT and erase everything ? <y/N> |
| 05:54.45 | vikas | Skipping bad block at 0x03ff0000 |
| 05:54.48 | vikas | Skipping bad block at 0x03ff4000 |
| 05:54.51 | vikas | Skipping bad block at 0x03ff8000 |
| 05:54.55 | vikas | Skipping bad block at 0x03ffc000 |
| 05:54.58 | vikas | Creating BBT. Please wait ...Bad block table not found for chip 0 |
| 05:55.01 | vikas | Bad block table not found for chip 0 |
| 05:55.04 | vikas | Bad block table written to 0x03ffc000, version 0x01 |
| 05:55.07 | vikas | Bad block table written to 0x03ff8000, version 0x01 |
| 05:55.10 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # setenv bootcmd 'setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} ${mtdparts}; bootm 0x30800000' |
| 05:55.13 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # setenv menu_1 'Set console to USB: setenv stdin usbtty; setenv stdout usbtty; setenv stderr usbtty' |
| 05:55.18 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # setenv menu_2 'Set console to serial: setenv stdin serial; setenv stdout serial; setenv stderr serial' |
| 05:55.21 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # setenv menu_3 'Power off: neo1973 power-off' |
| 05:55.24 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # setenv splashimage 'nand read.e 0x36000000 splash 0x5000; unzip 0x36000000 0x33d00000 0x96000' |
| 05:55.24 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # setenv mtdids nand0=neo1973-nand |
| 05:55.27 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # setenv mtdparts mtdparts=neo1973-nand:0x00050000(u-boot),0x00004000(u-boot_env),0x00208000(kernel),0x00010000(splash),0x039a4000(rootfs) |
| 05:55.31 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # #dynpart |
| 05:55.34 | vikas | Unknown command '#dynpart' - try 'help' |
| 05:55.37 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # nand write.e 0x30800000 u-boot 0x34610 |
| 05:55.40 | vikas | NAND write: device 0 offset 0x0, size 0x34610 |
| 05:55.43 | vikas | Writing data at 0x34600 -- 0% complete.te. |
| 05:55.46 | vikas | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.49 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # dynenv set u-boot_env |
| 05:55.52 | vikas | device 0 offset 0x50000, size 0x4000 |
| 05:55.56 | vikas | 45 4e 56 30 - 00 00 05 00 |
| 05:55.59 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # saveenv |
| 05:56.02 | vikas | Saving Environment to NAND... |
| 05:56.05 | vikas | Erasing Nand...Writing to Nand... done |
| 05:56.08 | vikas | GTA01Bv4 # neo1973 power-off |
| 05:56.10 | vikas | poweroff |
| 05:56.13 | vikas | pcf_write: Power-off requested. |
| 05:56.16 | vikas | openmoko/flash.sh: line 117: 30846 Terminated ( sleep $2; kill $pid; sleep 1; kill -KILL $pid ) (wd: /media/disk/backup/moko/build/qemu) |
| 05:56.19 | vikas | Please wait, programming the NAND flash... |
| 05:56.22 | vikas | neo_gsm_switch: GSM disabled. |
| 05:56.26 | vikas | U-Boot 1.3.0-rc11.2.0+gitf34024d4a328e6edd906456da98d2c537155c4f7+svn2943 (Dec 11 2007 - 09:21:05) |
| 05:56.29 | vikas | DRAM: 128 MB |
| 05:56.32 | vikas | NAND: 64 MiB |
| 05:56.35 | vikas | Found Environment offset in OOB.. |
| 05:56.39 | vikas | Video: 640x480x8 31kHz 59Hz |
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| 05:56.48 | vikas | apparently, in gnome, if i copy from firefox, it doesn't overwrite the copy buffer while pasting to terminasl |
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| 06:10.01 | daMaestro | anyone seen ScaredyCat in a while? |
| 06:10.18 | CM | ~seen ScaredyCat |
| 06:10.20 | apt | scaredycat is currently on #openmoko (1d 17h 28m 27s), last said: 'yes, well'. |
| 06:10.20 | daMaestro | also, anyone using his repo? it's now enabled http://www.angstrom-distribution.org as a source |
| 06:10.30 | daMaestro | hmm.. i must just keep missing him |
| 06:10.40 | CM | What about that? |
| 06:10.51 | CM | I mean using the angstrom dist? |
| 06:11.29 | daMaestro | CM http://dpaste.com/27634/ |
| 06:12.13 | CM | Hmm.. I guess he just have them in there too, besides his feeds |
| 06:12.23 | CM | There's a lot more packages there |
| 06:12.46 | CM | Angstrom basically builds all packages in oe |
| 06:12.53 | CM | At least it looks that way to me :) |
| 06:12.56 | daMaestro | so, it supplemental to "openmoko"? |
| 06:13.09 | CM | OpenMoko is a derivative of Angstrom |
| 06:13.37 | daMaestro | ah |
| 06:13.43 | xcasex | hey CM any idea if i can just pop the angstrom feeds into my nslu2 as well? |
| 06:13.44 | CM | So everything compiled for armv4t in angstrom works in openmoko |
| 06:13.56 | CM | xcasex: Hmm.. Ask rwhitby |
| 06:13.59 | CM | Not sure :) |
| 06:14.00 | daMaestro | so, i'm not to be concerned with the current update/upgrade path? |
| 06:14.04 | xcasex | rwhitby: ping |
| 06:14.07 | CM | daMaestro: Nope |
| 06:14.10 | daMaestro | cool |
| 06:14.15 | CM | :) |
| 06:14.17 | daMaestro | i' |
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| 06:14.43 | daMaestro | i'll more then likely flash back to official open moko images, but ScaredyCat seems to be on top of bringing builds public |
| 06:14.46 | CM | Koen has been trying to tell people to look in the Angstrom feed for packages that doesn't come by default in OpenMoko |
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| 06:55.18 | fatman999 | hello, i am fat man and i weigh 400 pounds! you can see video of my supreme fatness at fat-man.bravehost.com |
| 06:55.34 | Fatal | good for you |
| 06:55.38 | Fatal | here, have a yoghurt |
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| 06:58.11 | cheezoo | any idea what this error means ? ERROR: No providers of build target uboot-openmoko (for []) |
| 06:59.07 | CM | cheezoo: I do :) |
| 06:59.13 | cheezoo | hello CM |
| 06:59.46 | CM | It just mean there's nothing that provides a u-boot build... |
| 06:59.56 | mbuf | cheezoo, how are you building? |
| 06:59.59 | CM | Have you changed your config any? |
| 07:00.04 | cheezoo | no not really |
| 07:00.14 | cheezoo | i am just doing a make qemu-loal |
| 07:00.20 | cheezoo | s/laol/local/ |
| 07:00.48 | cheezoo | i added -j4 in the local.cf file |
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| 07:00.54 | cheezoo | but shouldn't matter |
| 07:01.22 | CM | I'll try a build and see what I get |
| 07:04.32 | cheezoo | CM : i did this btw rm -f openembedded/packages/uboot/uboot-openmoko_svn.bb |
| 07:04.43 | cheezoo | it was some sort of error |
| 07:05.15 | CM | Oh, ok. Hmm.. It did build for me |
| 07:06.44 | CM | You can easily get problems if you poke around too much int he monotone repo. |
| 07:07.29 | CM | Heh, flashing the qemu-local image failed for me |
| 07:08.47 | cheezoo | hmm |
| 07:10.57 | CM | It worked maybe two weeks ago for me |
| 07:11.04 | CM | Not sure what's changed since |
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| 07:32.56 | blindcoder | moin |
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| 07:45.25 | xcasex | oh what the hell |
| 07:45.31 | xcasex | still cant connect to the monotone server. |
| 07:46.28 | mbuf | xcasex, monotone.openembedded.org? |
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| 07:47.24 | CM | mbuf: I guess he's runninga against the monotone.openmoko.org |
| 07:47.24 | xcasex | mbuf: yeah |
| 07:47.36 | mbuf | ok |
| 07:47.38 | CM | xcasex: I ust synced against the oe one |
| 07:47.42 | CM | just |
| 07:47.52 | xcasex | CM: how would i do that? :) |
| 07:48.00 | xcasex | aside from manually editing the makefile |
| 07:48.00 | CM | Using the makefile? |
| 07:48.00 | xcasex | ? |
| 07:48.37 | CM | I'm usually running: make update-makefile;make setup update-bleeding-edge;make all |
| 07:48.54 | CM | But instead of that last make all you can make openmoko-devel-image |
| 07:48.54 | xcasex | which is exactly what i'm trying to run ;_; |
| 07:49.06 | CM | Behind a firewall? |
| 07:49.47 | xcasex | yup |
| 07:49.57 | xcasex | great company firewall of socialism ;_; |
| 07:50.03 | CM | Hehe |
| 07:50.34 | xcasex | what ports does monotone operate on? |
| 07:50.35 | xcasex | 80? |
| 07:50.53 | CM | Don't know, mtn just sucks all around ;) |
| 07:51.00 | xcasex | haha ;D |
| 07:51.13 | mbuf | CM, ipkg is no different? |
| 07:51.36 | CM | mbuf: Ipkg is a simpler version of dpkg |
| 07:51.45 | mbuf | CM, ok |
| 07:51.46 | CM | It just sucks a bit ;) |
| 07:53.46 | CM | xcasex: Seems like the default port for monotone is 4691.. |
| 07:53.54 | xcasex | what the cuntery |
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| 07:59.42 | Batalyx | b |
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| 08:49.39 | readon | is there any idea to boot faster? |
| 08:57.03 | SpeedEvil | In the far term, it's not relevant, as it'll be resuming from suspend, not booting. |
| 08:59.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1117 has been created by sean_chiang(AT)openmoko.com |
| 08:59.02 | cdbot2 | * * Call forwading support |
| 08:59.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1117 |
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| 09:01.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1118 has been created by sean_chiang(AT)openmoko.com |
| 09:01.03 | cdbot2 | * * multi-party conversation(conference call) support |
| 09:01.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1118 |
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| 09:19.13 | Mek | hmm... I'm cross-compiling some library for the neo, and I get lots of "cast increases required alignment of target type" warnings. Should I be worried about that? :) |
| 09:23.41 | daMaestro | can i memo with apt? |
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| 09:25.05 | daMaestro | meh, i just used memoserv |
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| 09:38.34 | xkr47 | we have four gopis! |
| 09:38.51 | SpeedEvil | RAIG |
| 09:38.59 | xkr47 | ,) |
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| 10:06.28 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 10:33.29 | josch | who is jan lübbe? |
| 10:35.27 | CM | josch: Shoragan I think |
| 10:35.48 | josch | CM, he is Shoragan ??? wow :-D |
| 10:35.59 | Shoragan | hm? |
| 10:36.16 | josch | Shoragan, ah no |
| 10:36.23 | josch | you are stefan schmidt aren't you? |
| 10:36.41 | Shoragan | no... stefan uses stefan_schmidt as his nickname |
| 10:36.53 | josch | do you know who ja lübbe is? |
| 10:37.00 | Shoragan | i am :) |
| 10:37.09 | josch | ha! |
| 10:37.12 | josch | suprise :-D |
| 10:37.29 | josch | Shoragan, okay I posted here: http://sicherheitsschwankung.de/post/jan/2007-08-26/debian-neo1973 |
| 10:37.45 | Shoragan | i read your comment, thanks :) |
| 10:37.46 | josch | and I have a question: how did you create the rootfs? |
| 10:38.29 | Shoragan | first i used a prepared rootfs made by the debian-armel project and then used debootstap to build my rootfs |
| 10:39.06 | josch | ah okay I downloaded this armel-sid-chroot tarball but it's much bigger than yours |
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| 10:39.53 | gi-el | size doesn't matter |
| 10:40.02 | Shoragan | i think they included the .debs by mistake |
| 10:40.13 | josch | Shoragan, what did you change on this chroot? |
| 10:40.43 | Shoragan | it is a clean debian installation |
| 10:41.11 | Shoragan | just what debootstrap will produce |
| 10:41.28 | josch | ah okay |
| 10:41.50 | josch | having a fully working debian on the neo - this is so great :-D |
| 10:42.02 | Shoragan | you can customize it easily, so i didn't install any additional packages |
| 10:42.43 | josch | the debian eabi port is not official - where can I report packages bugs? |
| 10:43.54 | Shoragan | please try to reproduce the bugs on an official architecture first, if so, just report them to the normal bugtracing system |
| 10:44.33 | josch | they are just some dependency things - I was not able to reproduce them in x86 |
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| 10:46.16 | Shoragan | if they are obvious, just report them as usual |
| 10:46.38 | Shoragan | or you could join #debian-arm on oftc |
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| 11:21.01 | ahven | yup |
| 11:21.05 | ahven | "winter" :) |
| 11:21.21 | hhf423 | rain which falls thick |
| 11:21.28 | hhf423 | rain which falls thin |
| 11:21.46 | hhf423 | rain which comes sideways because of the wind |
| 11:22.02 | hhf423 | rain which is cold |
| 11:22.08 | hhf423 | rain which is very cold |
| 11:22.31 | hhf423 | rain which you can or can not see the neighbours house |
| 11:22.41 | hhf423 | through wich |
| 11:23.05 | hhf423 | rain which creates a little melody falling on the roof |
| 11:23.21 | hhf423 | rain which just creates noise |
| 11:23.31 | hhf423 | angry rain |
| 11:23.35 | hhf423 | bored rain |
| 11:24.17 | hhf423 | I believe at the moment I have type II dripping, no melody, bored class III rain coming against my window |
| 11:24.22 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:24.51 | hhf423 | I am not interested :-) |
| 11:25.11 | josch | is there a bluetooth keyboard with laptop layout - so without the numbers block but with the F keys? |
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| 11:26.06 | hhf423 | josch: I have not seen one with the F key |
| 11:26.29 | josch | the F keys are important since they allow switching between ttys |
| 11:26.31 | hhf423 | josch: but there are bt keyboard without number block |
| 11:26.57 | SpeedEvil | josch: no reason you can't bind that to alt-num |
| 11:27.17 | josch | :-/ |
| 11:27.49 | SpeedEvil | Or screen. |
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| 11:28.27 | josch | hhf423, what do you do to switch ttys? |
| 11:29.33 | josch | maybe screen is the way to go then |
| 11:30.10 | hhf423 | thats what X was invented for: be able to open lots of ttys |
| 11:30.51 | hhf423 | nah, I use ALT-F1/F2/F3 |
| 11:32.36 | bedboi | what happens if the $GPGSA line does not switch from A,1 to A,3 ? |
| 11:33.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1119 has been created by cayco(AT)cayco.pl |
| 11:33.02 | cdbot2 | * * Contacts with Evolution addressbook.db does not start |
| 11:33.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1119 |
| 11:33.03 | SpeedEvil | bedboi: Run very fast, the GPS will explode in 14.3 seconds. |
| 11:33.12 | bedboi | lol |
| 11:33.27 | bedboi | SpeedEvil: i meant what's the approx time to get a stable signal? |
| 11:33.49 | bedboi | i'm not in the nowhere, i'm in paris, center |
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| 11:34.31 | Mek | I guess with lots of tall buildings around you it will take longer? |
| 11:34.41 | josch | bedboi, actually gps should better work in nowhere because in bug cities there are scyscrapers to block the gps signal |
| 11:37.57 | bedboi | is there any gui for gllin even at very alpha stage |
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| 11:38.08 | SpeedEvil | bedboi: there is xgps and stuff |
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| 11:38.24 | Estorbo | hey |
| 11:38.28 | viq | March? Wow, that's some delay. |
| 11:38.33 | bedboi | SpeedEvil: thank's man |
| 11:38.35 | xzcvczx | doesnt agpsui work? |
| 11:38.44 | SpeedEvil | xzcvczx: dunno - not used |
| 11:38.57 | Romney | I want to castrate a niggger and fry his balls before eating them. Then I can fuccck my little niggger biitch faaagg every night. ....Pumpin my dildo til he bleeds. Niggger eunuchs for my muff ohhh yeahh |
| 11:38.57 | josch | xzcvczx, it worked for me |
| 11:39.02 | Romney | I want to castrate a niggger and fry his balls before eating them. Then I can fuccck my little niggger biitch faaagg every night. ....Pumpin my dildo til he bleeds. Niggger eunuchs for my muff ohhh yeahh |
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| 11:39.31 | Morningsickness | I want to castrate a niggger and fry his balls before eating them. Then I can fuccck my little niggger biitch faaagg every night. ....Pumpin my dildo til he bleeds. Niggger eunuchs for my muff ohhh yeahh |
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| 11:40.58 | bedboi | oh my god |
| 11:41.54 | SpeedEvil | I know. March :( |
| 11:42.30 | rwhitby | xcasex: SYN|ACK |
| 11:42.32 | josch | who said march? |
| 11:42.33 | viq | And, er, what known problems remain in the March edition? |
| 11:42.42 | SpeedEvil | No bluetooth wake |
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| 11:42.54 | SpeedEvil | triband not quadband |
| 11:43.25 | SpeedEvil | I _think_ that's it. |
| 11:43.29 | viq | Which bands would those be? (or: who's not supported?) |
| 11:43.48 | SpeedEvil | viq: 850MHz is now not supported. |
| 11:43.57 | SpeedEvil | viq: which means large chunks of the USA mainly. |
| 11:44.06 | viq | OK. Doesn't affect me much then ;) |
| 11:44.13 | ahven | me neither |
| 11:44.22 | SpeedEvil | viq: there will probably be a triband version of GTA02 with 850Mhz, and one without,. |
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| 11:44.42 | viq | And any news on announcement of other models FIC is working on? |
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| 11:48.42 | viq | I guess that's a "no". Thanks for the info. |
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| 11:55.18 | hhf423 | we do not need other models, we just need this one :-) |
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| 12:00.58 | josch | how does openmoko enable root login without password - even without /etc/shadow? |
| 12:01.45 | CoreDump | empty p/w entry in /etc/passwd |
| 12:02.28 | xkr47 | heh even the man page does not explain that |
| 12:03.14 | josch | so just root:: ? |
| 12:03.18 | xkr47 | y |
| 12:04.23 | Mek | hmm.. does somebody know if a java runtime-environment is available that runs on openmoko/the neo? |
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| 12:09.42 | mbuf | Mek, jalimo? |
| 12:10.03 | metzenas | Mek, on december 5th there was something about java: http://planet.openmoko.org/ |
| 12:10.22 | Mek | ah, I see.. nice... |
| 12:10.52 | mbuf | Mek, https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 12:22.36 | xcasex | rwhitby: problem is the great firewall of chi^H my work, not anything on your end :D |
| 12:23.06 | rwhitby | ok |
| 12:23.39 | rwhitby | xcasex: Re: your NSLU2, we have an angstrom feed for the nslu2 on ipkg.nslu2-linux.org |
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| 12:31.20 | dbmoodb | just a quick q- what kind of output are we to expect from the neo1973 - db ? |
| 12:31.52 | xcasex | rwhitby: awesome! :) |
| 12:32.18 | dbmoodb | ? |
| 12:33.53 | dbmoodb | no one knows atm ? |
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| 12:43.30 | Mek | hmm... java on the neo is quite slow... :) |
| 12:43.41 | dbmoodb | really ? |
| 12:43.58 | Mek | well... a swing gui application at least is :) |
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| 12:45.00 | dbmoodb | -anyone got an answer to my q ? |
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| 13:24.34 | CM | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 13:24.35 | apt | Well, my work here is done. |
| 13:24.52 | CM | Oh, new one :) |
| 13:25.06 | zash | ~emulate apt |
| 13:25.40 | CM | night :) |
| 13:25.44 | zash | nn then |
| 13:25.50 | CM | ~emulate XorA |
| 13:26.33 | zash | ~fish brodband-router |
| 13:26.33 | apt | ACTION slaps brodband-router around with a large trout |
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| 13:44.52 | zash | so it has reached you now |
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| 13:45.30 | hhf423 | zash: the type IIa? Yes. We had rain for an eternity now, though |
| 13:45.39 | zash | here we got class 4 depressing darkness now |
| 13:45.57 | hhf423 | uh, I hate that one |
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| 13:46.16 | hhf423 | it gets to you, the grade 4 darkness |
| 13:46.32 | hhf423 | its the false gimmer of hope, I think |
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| 13:47.38 | hhf423 | its not their problem, its "a server" problem |
| 13:48.36 | zash | orly |
| 13:49.32 | hhf423 | I wonder if they have a "problem not solved, customer too polite to get angry" category? |
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| 14:14.59 | mbuf | is there a way to know how much of "make openmoko-devel-image" is left to be completed? |
| 14:15.22 | Stephmw | now > lots > completed |
| 14:15.30 | Stephmw | I don't think it runs an estimate |
| 14:15.31 | cheezoo | mbuf: it says xxxx of 4000 tasks completed |
| 14:15.53 | mbuf | cheezoo, ok |
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| 14:17.31 | mbuf | cheezoo, i remember the old days of gentoo, where the last few packages took more hours than the first few :) |
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| 14:29.01 | Witch | I have a newbie question. I'm trying to use the MokoMakeFile to setup a dev environment on Ubuntu under Vitual PC. I apt-get'ed everyhing I need (I think!), got the MokoMakeFile and ran 'make setup'. It complains with: |
| 14:29.03 | Witch | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/repos/bitbake/tags/bitbake-1.8.8' |
| 14:29.04 | Witch | svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/repos/bitbake/tags/bitbake-1.8.8': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.berlios.de) |
| 14:29.06 | Witch | make: *** [setup-bitbake] Error 1 |
| 14:29.07 | Witch | Any ideas? Is the svn server down? |
| 14:29.23 | Stephmw | it hiccups occasionally |
| 14:29.50 | jmichel_ | Witch: I had the same problem when I was behind a proxy |
| 14:30.13 | jmichel_ | Witch: subversion must be configure ti use the proxy |
| 14:30.30 | jmichel_ | Witch: is it your case ? |
| 14:30.48 | Witch | I don't have a proxy. At least, not that I know of... perhaps Virtual PC acts like a proxy in this case? |
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| 14:32.37 | jmichel_ | Witch: From what I know this error is thrown whenever svn cannot reach the remote server |
| 14:33.07 | jmichel_ | Witch: Maybe you could try a svn server from another project that you know it works |
| 14:33.27 | Witch | jmichel_: I don't know of any others... |
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| 14:33.44 | Witch | jmichel: First, let me 'links' to the svn directory to see if I can get there... |
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| 14:36.29 | zecke | alp: hi here as well :) |
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| 14:36.41 | alp | zecke: yo! |
| 14:37.00 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: What was gismo's nick again? Do you know what happened to buildhost-old? |
| 14:37.07 | alp | zecke: did the feed reader and stuff get updated after the gtk+ API change? |
| 14:37.21 | bedboi | is there any sdk available, i don't have enough room on my HD to use openembedded for now |
| 14:37.29 | bedboi | s/,/? |
| 14:37.50 | jmichel_ | Witch: you can try "svn co http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/" just to check if svn is working on your Virtual PC |
| 14:38.30 | Witch | jmichel_: Checked out revision 3629. |
| 14:38.40 | Witch | So, that works. Probably hickups then. |
| 14:39.13 | jmichel_ | Witch: probably |
| 14:39.37 | Witch | jmichel_: I'll just wait for another few hours, then... thanks so far! |
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| 14:56.27 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Gismo_C, but the seems to be offline |
| 14:56.44 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Normally mail or bugtracker is better to catch him |
| 14:57.20 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: last shortcut, have you heard that buildhost-old has been disabled or such? |
| 14:57.40 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Sorry, no idea |
| 14:57.47 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Perhaps mickeyl knows? |
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| 15:16.05 | roh | zecke still there? |
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| 15:17.53 | Gismo_C_ | re |
| 15:18.02 | Gismo_C_ | ha found one? - who asked about buildhost-old? |
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| 15:18.31 | josch | Gismo_C_, zecke did |
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| 15:19.32 | Gismo_C_ | zecke: what is done on buildhost-old at the moment? |
| 15:19.48 | zecke | Gismo_C_: it runs a buildbot for the webkit project |
| 15:19.56 | zecke | (and a broken OE autobuilder) |
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| 15:20.53 | Gismo_C_ | zecke: oh ok, so its still in use? |
| 15:21.16 | Gismo_C_ | zecke: can we rename it to something more apropriate? |
| 15:21.42 | zecke | Gismo_C_: sure, the buildbot is quite important for WebKit/Gtk+ and it would be a nice contribution |
| 15:23.40 | Gismo_C_ | zecke: ok sorry for the shutdown, its up again |
| 15:23.58 | mickeyl | i suggest coordinating the autobuilder work with John and XorA |
| 15:24.24 | mickeyl | these two are mainly responsible for maintaning the build infrastructure |
| 15:24.36 | alp | Gismo_C_: thanks! the build bot is what keeps the gtk+ WebKit port building :-) |
| 15:24.53 | zecke | Gismo_C_: the buildbot was a known secret. Is there anything me/alp can do to help you? |
| 15:25.27 | Gismo_C_ | well, just a little clutter here... |
| 15:25.36 | Gismo_C_ | buldhost died last night finally, totaly |
| 15:25.42 | Gismo_C_ | buildhost-migration is now in place |
| 15:25.50 | mickeyl | RIP, buildhost. |
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| 15:25.51 | Gismo_C_ | and I wonderd about buildhost-old |
| 15:26.53 | starox_ | bien fait |
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| 15:27.25 | sim | bien fait |
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| 15:28.30 | NineX | damn |
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| 15:35.59 | Gismo_C_ | zecke: I want to rename buildhost-old (is system name is still buildhost) . suggestion: buildhost-webkit |
| 15:36.05 | Gismo_C_ | zecke: is that ok for you? |
| 15:36.59 | zecke | sure |
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| 15:38.48 | zecke | Gismo_C_: thanks! |
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| 16:11.53 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03john_lee * r3630 10/developers/john_lee/toolkit/bin/om-conf: |
| 16:11.53 | CIA-23 | openmoko: Pass om-conf options to configure. For example: |
| 16:11.53 | CIA-23 | openmoko: om-conf openmoko-sample2 --prefix=/usr/local/openmoko |
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| 16:18.45 | Field | Hi. I have a little question on "Nand erase" my moko .. anybody with some experience inside here? .. It seems my gentoo-host-pc does not create a ttyACM0 device (minicom could not connect to the moko). Help would be very welcome. |
| 16:19.13 | CM | Field: Do you have CDC enabled in your kernel? |
| 16:19.44 | CM | And be careful with "nand erase", always give it a third argument (kernel/rootfs) |
| 16:19.49 | Field | I'll check this .. one sec |
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| 16:20.24 | Field | yes .. i've read this with the "kernel/rootfs" .. I can call a debug-board my own ..=) |
| 16:20.53 | CM | Heh, I've just gotten my hands on a debugboard but haven't been able to get it working yet |
| 16:21.42 | CM | Field: In make menuconfig, look for Drivers -> USB support -> USB Modem (CDC ACM) support) |
| 16:22.46 | Field | y - thats what I am actually doing .. could take a while .. one sec. |
| 16:23.12 | CM | Field: You can also hang out in #neo1973-german if you want :) |
| 16:23.32 | Field | ty |
| 16:23.44 | Field | =),, next time |
| 16:25.20 | Field | ok .. there is the mistake .. cdc is not enabled ... I'm going to enable this and take another try .. thank you for help.. |
| 16:25.30 | CM | You're welcome :) |
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| 17:05.09 | magellan | I'm trying to autogen openmoko-libs but get and error. error: No package 'libgsmd' found I have already installed libgsmd from the svn and it is registered with phg-config. Has anyone seen this or have an idea how to get autogen to see the libgsmd? |
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| 17:08.08 | mickey|lunch | PKG_CONFIG_PATH? |
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| 17:10.54 | koper | hi all |
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| 17:13.45 | koper | i'm german and i wanted to know when I cann buy the openkoko phone.. i didn't found any information on the website only the developer preview.. I've read that it will be selled in mid December is that right why can't I get information on that :/ can you help me? |
| 17:14.10 | magellan | I don't see anything in PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
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| 17:14.15 | CM | koper: Hello |
| 17:14.16 | [AE][HDF]sudd1 | pls klick! ---> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=8915041 |
| 17:14.25 | CM | koper: It's been delayed, unfortunately |
| 17:14.28 | cjb_ie | koper: it's still in development |
| 17:14.33 | CM | koper: Take a look at /topic |
| 17:14.34 | abraxa_ | magellan: He meant for you to set it |
| 17:14.39 | magellan | what should I set PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 17:15.04 | abraxa_ | magellan: Depends on where you built libgsmd to |
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| 17:15.07 | jmichel_ | koper: from the wiki the target is now March 2008 |
| 17:15.18 | koper | jmichel_: ah ok all right.. |
| 17:15.19 | cb23 | [AE][HDF]sudd1, drop the l and that is what i'd do if i could |
| 17:15.28 | koper | thx |
| 17:15.46 | magellan | shouldn't make install put it in the proper place reguardless |
| 17:15.47 | magellan | ? |
| 17:15.52 | cjb_ie | cb23: surely it was a bot anyway |
| 17:16.14 | josch | koper, if you want to be one of the first to group order the neo to germany then just join #neo1973-germany |
| 17:16.19 | cb23 | cjb_ie, indeed, but its irritating when they cant spell right =) |
| 17:16.20 | CM | I guess there's more and more bots here since there's so many people in the channel |
| 17:16.40 | CM | cb23: botsnack |
| 17:16.41 | CM | ;) |
| 17:16.43 | abraxa_ | magellan: Yes but pkg-config only looks in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ by default so if you installed libgsmd somewhere else (e.g. using configure --prefix=...) then you need to tell it where to look |
| 17:17.05 | cjb_ie | CM: aww, no botsnack for me |
| 17:17.18 | CM | ~beer cjb_ie |
| 17:17.19 | apt | ACTION deftly decants a fine Yuengling Lager for cjb_ie |
| 17:17.40 | abraxa_ | Yuengling Lager o_o; |
| 17:17.42 | Field | CM: ok -- with cdc-support I am able to connect to U-Boot .. now I have another problem: If I try to flash my own kernel (dfu-util -a kernel -R -D ./image.boot), U-Boot says "End of write exceeds partition end". .. Is there any way to redefine size of partitions ? |
| 17:17.50 | cjb_ie | Yuengling? is that what the openmoko hw devs drink? |
| 17:18.05 | CM | Field: Oh, that doesn't sound good |
| 17:18.19 | CM | Field: What kind of kernel are you flashing there? |
| 17:18.29 | CM | Field: And how old is your u-boot? |
| 17:18.49 | Field | anyone with experience running L4Linux/Fiasco or okl4 on openMoko? ... u-Boot is 1.3.01.3.0 |
| 17:18.51 | cjb_ie | :q |
| 17:18.57 | cjb_ie | oops |
| 17:19.52 | magellan | abraxe: crap, make install puts it in /usr/local/pkgconfig |
| 17:19.53 | abraxa_ | Field: You could use dynpart to re-partition the NAND from within u-boot but rebooting right now might not be a smart thing to do |
| 17:19.59 | Field | problem with fiasco is - actually there are no UART, timer and lcd driver implemented ... which is already done in okl4 |
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| 17:20.18 | abraxa_ | magellan: Try setting PGK_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/pkgconfig then |
| 17:20.22 | abraxa_ | PKG* |
| 17:21.40 | magellan | trying |
| 17:22.38 | Field | abraxa_: ok, I'll check this. ty |
| 17:22.57 | abraxa_ | Field: Do you have a debug board? |
| 17:23.07 | Field | yes .. but never used it before |
| 17:23.07 | cayco | hi guys! I have problem with openmoko-contacts - if contact has more than one telephone no. i cannot call him - i click on contact, then click left top icon (dial?), a dialog apears: "Please choose a number t" and i do not know how to choose one |
| 17:23.29 | cayco | dialog seems to hang (not responding), it quits after a while |
| 17:23.33 | abraxa_ | Field: Ahh, good. Then you got a safety net. If you had not had one then you would need to be *very* careful with what you do |
| 17:23.39 | cayco | anyone expects smth like that? |
| 17:23.43 | Field | today it's the first time I try to run my kernel on the device and not anymore inside qemu |
| 17:24.16 | abraxa_ | cayco: Can you please check bugzilla for such a bug and if it's not there (I don't think it is), file it please |
| 17:24.29 | cayco | i'm using newest 2007.11 |
| 17:24.52 | cayco | is it a bug or just it hasn't been done before? |
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| 17:25.02 | cayco | i've never used contacts app before.. |
| 17:25.03 | Field | abraxa_ : but the curious thing is - inside qemu, okl4 works very well... I think there is some work to be done .. |
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| 17:25.26 | CM | cayco: I think you've tried someting no one else have tried before :) |
| 17:25.38 | cayco | oh |
| 17:25.43 | cayco | i will fill the bug, thx |
| 17:25.49 | CM | Thank you :) |
| 17:25.57 | cayco | why is it always me? ;) |
| 17:26.04 | cayco | keep up the good work! |
| 17:26.06 | CM | Curious nature maybe? ;) |
| 17:26.13 | abraxa_ | Field: okl4? |
| 17:27.08 | abraxa_ | magellan: Any success? |
| 17:27.44 | Field | abraxa_: okl4 and fiasco are microkernels - somekind of virtualisation of everything above the kernel |
| 17:28.03 | magellan | didn't work but Im trying to put it in /usr/lib |
| 17:29.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1120 has been created by cayco(AT)cayco.pl |
| 17:29.02 | cdbot2 | * * Choosing number from multiple phone numbers does not work |
| 17:29.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1120 |
| 17:29.24 | CM | abraxa_: Open Kernel Lab's L4 implementation |
| 17:29.46 | Field | CM: exactly |
| 17:36.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1121 has been created by cayco(AT)cayco.pl |
| 17:36.01 | cdbot2 | * * Editing contact data is impossible |
| 17:36.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1121 |
| 17:37.20 | magellan | abraxa: OK I moved all the files over to /usr/lib and can run autogen.sh |
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| 17:51.57 | Hadaka | hmh, just tried a recent snapshot of qtopia on my GTA01 - receives and dials calls fine, same for text messages |
| 17:52.26 | Hadaka | nastily sluggish and slow on many occasions though, and several apps crash when playing around with them for a bit |
| 17:53.28 | Hadaka | also, I hate the fact, that answering calls, disconnecting calls, etc. seem to have a couple seconds of latency, atleast on the first time around |
| 17:54.51 | Hadaka | but, anyhow, is there anything that could make the battery in GTA01 last several days (>2) with the GSM on? |
| 17:56.55 | affen | not at the moment |
| 17:57.01 | affen | no power management |
| 17:57.52 | Hadaka | ahven: there seems to be some talk about a qtopia guy getting suspend working on the qtopia image - would that work as power management enough? |
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| 17:58.24 | ahven | Hadaka: perhaps, but I'm waiting for openmoko though :) |
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| 18:11.26 | mickeyl | > 2 days - I'm afraid that's impossible w/ the hardware |
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| 18:12.58 | pike_ | what march now... |
| 18:14.41 | metzenas | mickeyl, is the gsm-chip the problem or is rest of the hardware just too powerhungry even on standby? |
| 18:15.35 | mickeyl | both |
| 18:15.41 | mickeyl | gsm has a relatively high consumption |
| 18:15.49 | mickeyl | and you want to wake up on gsm, don't you? :) |
| 18:16.31 | metzenas | that might be nice :) |
| 18:16.37 | viq | Naaah, have them leave me a message, I will call them back when I feel like turning my phone back on ;P |
| 18:16.40 | mickeyl | and the SoC is limited |
| 18:17.57 | metzenas | my voicemail just tells people to call during the first 10min of every hour because i need to conserve power :D |
| 18:17.59 | mickeyl | then again, let see. PM surely is mission critical for FIC. |
| 18:19.28 | mickeyl | maybe its just not yet turning everything possible off on suspend |
| 18:20.28 | Vegar | doesn't the GSM chip have a power saving mode? |
| 18:21.04 | metzenas | for me it's not a really big deal if the battery doesn't last very long. i just want to be free, but it would be great to see neos selling more than expected |
| 18:21.32 | metzenas | who knows since its behind nda :) |
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| 18:21.48 | mickeyl | yes, gsm has a deep-sleep mode |
| 18:21.54 | mickeyl | which is unfortunately not yet deployed |
| 18:22.04 | mickeyl | it's in newer firmwares |
| 18:22.09 | torpor | yo |
| 18:22.18 | mickeyl | which firmware is out in the wild? |
| 18:22.20 | mickeyl | moko3 ? |
| 18:23.30 | SpeedEvil | how do we tell? |
| 18:23.37 | mickeyl | AT+CGMR |
| 18:23.38 | mickeyl | iirc |
| 18:23.44 | metzenas | so maybe 2 days isn't that far anyway? |
| 18:23.58 | mickeyl | 2 days is _very_ long |
| 18:24.03 | metzenas | ok |
| 18:24.16 | mickeyl | i think max i heard was 26 hours |
| 18:24.33 | mickeyl | without gsm deep sleep and without possible more optimizations |
| 18:24.44 | mickeyl | so... maybe we can hit 30 |
| 18:25.00 | mickeyl | i would be very surprised if we can hit 40 |
| 18:25.04 | mickeyl | positively, though ;) |
| 18:25.41 | SpeedEvil | I can't talk to the modem, as 'cu' isn't in the most recent build... |
| 18:25.52 | mickeyl | libgsmd-tool -m atcmd |
| 18:26.01 | SpeedEvil | I tried that |
| 18:26.10 | Vegar | are you saying 40 hours is the absolute maximum? |
| 18:26.11 | SpeedEvil | It seemed to give interpreted responses somehow |
| 18:26.18 | SpeedEvil | Vegar: pretty much |
| 18:26.39 | SpeedEvil | Vegar: unless the hardware can be configured into such a state where the modem goes to sleep |
| 18:26.54 | SpeedEvil | low power sleep mode rather |
| 18:27.02 | SpeedEvil | AT+CGMR |
| 18:27.02 | SpeedEvil | STR=`AT+CGMR' |
| 18:27.03 | SpeedEvil | RSTR=`+CG' |
| 18:27.03 | mickeyl | root@fic-gta01:~$ libgsmd-tool -m atcmd |
| 18:27.04 | mickeyl | libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. |
| 18:27.04 | mickeyl | This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY |
| 18:27.04 | mickeyl | AT+CGMR |
| 18:27.04 | mickeyl | STR=`AT+CGMR' |
| 18:27.04 | mickeyl | RSTR=`+CGMR: "HW: GTA01BV4, GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko6"' |
| 18:27.26 | mickeyl | hmm +CG? |
| 18:27.28 | mickeyl | that's not much |
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| 18:28.34 | torpor | why this? wget: Unable to connect to remote host (88.198.84.234): Connection refused |
| 18:28.50 | torpor | is there a new buildhost server we should be using? |
| 18:28.52 | mickeyl | SpeedEvil: do you have one of the july batch? |
| 18:29.03 | mmontour | My phone shows: "HW: GTA01Bv4, GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko1" |
| 18:29.04 | mickeyl | torpor: buildhost died |
| 18:29.13 | mickeyl | torpor: downloads.openmoko.org still alive |
| 18:29.19 | torpor | gah |
| 18:29.24 | torpor | so i just do a sub then? |
| 18:29.34 | SpeedEvil | strace says |
| 18:29.35 | SpeedEvil | read(3, "\r\n+CGMR: \"HW: GTA01Bv4, GSM: gsm"..., 1024) = 40 |
| 18:29.42 | torpor | <-- trying to keep his neo operational |
| 18:29.45 | SpeedEvil | so something's doing something screwy |
| 18:29.55 | mmontour | SpeedEvil: look in /tmp/gsm.log |
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| 18:30.21 | mickeyl | well |
| 18:30.26 | mickeyl | you all want Moko5 |
| 18:30.46 | mmontour | OK, where can I download Moko5? :) |
| 18:30.50 | torpor | i want moko5! |
| 18:30.54 | torpor | where do i get it? |
| 18:30.54 | mickeyl | iirc OM Inc. is working on updates-in-the-field. MichaelShiloh will keep you posted |
| 18:31.04 | torpor | bah! |
| 18:31.37 | SpeedEvil | MichaelShiloh: does the new firmware potentially enable actaully low-power sleep? |
| 18:31.38 | cb23 | problem solved |
| 18:31.41 | SpeedEvil | oops |
| 18:31.45 | SpeedEvil | mick: |
| 18:32.17 | mickeyl | my release notes show that deep sleep is in the firmware since Moko3 |
| 18:32.19 | SpeedEvil | mickeyl: As opposed to the 30mA or so current one. |
| 18:32.44 | Vegar | will the GTA02 have any better standby time? |
| 18:32.49 | SpeedEvil | So it may be simply that the GPIOs are set wrongly. |
| 18:33.21 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 18:33.32 | mickeyl | could be some pins are still wrongly configure |
| 18:33.33 | mickeyl | d |
| 18:33.34 | SpeedEvil | Vegar: the power managment for the GTA01 is not implemented well enough in the software to tell yet. If it's possible to get sleep working properly, it should go to >1 week in suspend |
| 18:33.39 | mickeyl | new system level engineer will find that |
| 18:33.45 | Vegar | SpeedEvil: interesting |
| 18:33.56 | SpeedEvil | At teh moment it will wake from suspend. |
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| 18:34.19 | SpeedEvil | But with the serial point in an undefined state on a wake due to an incoming call. |
| 18:34.26 | SpeedEvil | s/oin/ort/ |
| 18:35.18 | mickeyl | for a device like the Neo, i myself find usage time more important than standby time though |
| 18:35.35 | SpeedEvil | True, to an extent. |
| 18:35.46 | mickeyl | cause there are so many things I'd like to do that need to keep it running |
| 18:35.52 | mickeyl | gsm tracking, wifi tracking, bt tracking |
| 18:35.54 | SpeedEvil | But there is also clock frequency stuff. |
| 18:35.55 | cb23 | Sad to say, but my old winmobile phone was really good in that regard |
| 18:36.05 | cb23 | it had huge stand by time |
| 18:36.09 | SpeedEvil | if we could go to 12Mhz, that'd be nice. |
| 18:36.09 | mickeyl | right. downclocking support for the SoC is still MIA |
| 18:36.14 | cb23 | but you never really turned it off |
| 18:36.37 | CM | mickeyl: When can we expect more details on that potential new system level engineer? :) |
| 18:36.46 | SpeedEvil | It'd be nicer if the PMU supported better voltage granularity for underclocking, but oh well. |
| 18:37.18 | mickeyl | CM: i have no idea whether this is a) supposed to be disclosed at all, and if so, when :/ |
| 18:37.34 | CM | Ok, just curious as usually |
| 18:37.37 | mickeyl | sure |
| 18:37.42 | mickeyl | things are more tied lipped than ever |
| 18:37.53 | CM | Yeah, we've noticed.. :( |
| 18:38.43 | cb23 | mickeyl, if you dont tell us we'll start slaughtering kittens ;) |
| 18:39.05 | _buz | chinese probably wont mind that |
| 18:39.09 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:39.17 | SpeedEvil | Ah - right. Tue Dec 11 18:28:11 2007 <1> atcmd.c:260:ml_parse() buf=`+CGMR: "HW: GTA01Bv4, GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko1"'(83) |
| 18:39.18 | mickeyl | if i tell you, i have no longer a job |
| 18:39.26 | buz | (i'm told cat tastes similar to chicken) |
| 18:39.28 | SpeedEvil | (the shipped version) |
| 18:39.31 | mickeyl | SpeedEvil: yeah, that's the first batch from Suzhou |
| 18:39.40 | mickeyl | the 2nd batch should have Moko3 |
| 18:39.48 | mickeyl | [sold from September onwards] |
| 18:40.04 | mickeyl | ok, need to do something against my lazy bones |
| 18:40.09 | mickey|sports | bbl |
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| 18:56.16 | ajbrun | RAH! |
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| 19:39.17 | a69oker | hello... |
| 19:39.45 | a69oker | why does my image work on the emulator but doesn't boot on the device...:( |
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| 19:39.56 | a69oker | u-boot? |
| 19:40.02 | a69oker | kernel? |
| 19:40.17 | ajbrun | i'm always tempted to ask if it's a jpeg to questions like that :p |
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| 19:40.31 | a69oker | :) |
| 19:41.01 | mmontour | a69oker: What happens when you try to boot? |
| 19:41.07 | borg_ | a69oker: have you done this "nand erase rootfs" thingy in before flashing the new rootfs? |
| 19:41.30 | a69oker | haven't tried nand erase... |
| 19:41.38 | cb23 | note the rootfs |
| 19:41.42 | a69oker | yep i know |
| 19:41.42 | cb23 | you dont wanna do nand erase |
| 19:41.46 | borg_ | try it, your rootfs has probably a different size |
| 19:41.53 | a69oker | doesn't really tempt me:)... |
| 19:41.58 | a69oker | you are right |
| 19:42.12 | borg_ | you have to flash the kernel then too |
| 19:42.21 | a69oker | sure |
| 19:42.27 | a69oker | will try it now |
| 19:42.30 | borg_ | ok |
| 19:42.48 | a69oker | where is the device...:)... |
| 19:43.52 | a69oker | it's all good I love thieves:) |
| 19:44.05 | a69oker | not all of them ofcourse:) |
| 19:46.37 | a69oker | NAND erase: device 0 offset 0x2e4000, size 0x3d1c000 |
| 19:46.38 | a69oker | OK |
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| 19:48.39 | emdete | hi, i have problem charging my neo. if i plug in usb when linux is still running it sometimes does not start charging. is a daemon needed for that? |
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| 19:51.09 | a69oker | borg_: flashing the rootfs now... hopefully it works |
| 19:52.34 | Henkie | any idea when it will be consumer ready? 2008 Q1, Q2? |
| 19:53.09 | a69oker | would be nice to have better hardware... |
| 19:53.38 | a69oker | and 3d graphic accelerators |
| 19:53.43 | a69oker | and an omap 3430 |
| 19:53.44 | a69oker | :) |
| 19:54.13 | a69oker | to say it all |
| 19:55.01 | mudyc | why omap is not used in the first place? is it price or opennes problem? |
| 19:55.12 | a69oker | price |
| 19:55.13 | a69oker | :) |
| 19:55.18 | a69oker | and they only sell thousands of units |
| 19:55.30 | a69oker | if you order hunderd thousands of units than ok |
| 19:55.47 | Henkie | well i'll be getting one |
| 19:55.52 | a69oker | :) |
| 19:56.27 | Henkie | atleast, when i can make a descent phonecall with it :) |
| 19:56.30 | Henkie | -s |
| 19:56.46 | a69oker | phones are funny :) |
| 19:56.51 | a69oker | if you don't call someone they don't exist |
| 19:57.10 | a69oker | well there is post now |
| 19:57.17 | a69oker | and other stuff |
| 19:57.18 | a69oker | :) |
| 19:57.22 | Henkie | i tried, doesnt work that way :) |
| 19:57.25 | mudyc | a69oker: do you know the 3430? how open the powervr or iva+ is? |
| 19:57.39 | a69oker | not very open I"m afraid |
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| 19:57.52 | a69oker | you need to have good connections to get the real info |
| 19:58.04 | a69oker | glsl |
| 19:59.12 | a69oker | damn... takes 4ever to upload the rootfs |
| 19:59.30 | a69oker | and takes ages to compile all the unnececary oe packages |
| 19:59.41 | a69oker | who put all that stuff there:) |
| 20:00.03 | mudyc | at least ti does not have specs available for their omap boards |
| 20:00.28 | a69oker | mudye: but they have teams that train others |
| 20:00.57 | a69oker | Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode |
| 20:00.58 | a69oker | ok |
| 20:01.00 | a69oker | let c |
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| 20:01.44 | mudyc | a69oker: uh? how does that help some random guy who wants to hack on afternoon?-) |
| 20:01.53 | a69oker | :) |
| 20:02.19 | a69oker | it's all about the money love |
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| 20:03.22 | a69oker | perfect it works |
| 20:03.31 | borg_ | a69oker: nice! |
| 20:03.37 | a69oker | :) |
| 20:04.13 | a69oker | so bigger is better...:) |
| 20:04.47 | a69oker | borg_:... where do I start to edit the files...:?) |
| 20:04.54 | a69oker | what dir? |
| 20:05.31 | borg_ | which files? |
| 20:05.42 | a69oker | media-player for example |
| 20:05.50 | a69oker | I'm not 2 happy with the whole bitbake situation |
| 20:06.10 | a69oker | have 2 get used 2 it |
| 20:06.29 | borg_ | so you want to exchange the media player with your patched version of it? |
| 20:06.37 | a69oker | yes |
| 20:06.54 | borg_ | you shouls make an ipk of your version and do "ipkg install mymediaplayer.ipk" |
| 20:07.01 | borg_ | s/shouls/should/ |
| 20:07.11 | borg_ | oh the device |
| 20:07.20 | a69oker | perfect |
| 20:07.29 | a69oker | thanx |
| 20:07.56 | abraxa_ | Media player patch? |
| 20:08.20 | a69oker | now I want to change everything |
| 20:08.29 | a69oker | it's really ugly |
| 20:08.38 | a69oker | :) |
| 20:08.44 | a69oker | but hey I didn't say that |
| 20:08.46 | abraxa_ | How so? |
| 20:08.57 | a69oker | wait let me play with it for a while |
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| 20:09.06 | a69oker | then I'll show you what I like |
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| 20:13.20 | a69oker | thanx... cu |
| 20:14.51 | abraxa_ | ...great way to annoy me, really. |
| 20:16.29 | cb23 | hahaha |
| 20:16.50 | cb23 | dont worry abraxa_, i like the media player :) |
| 20:17.02 | abraxa_ | lol thanks, I wasn't fishing for compliments |
| 20:17.30 | abraxa_ | Just... coming here, insulting my work and leaving when asked for reasons is... yeah. |
| 20:19.04 | cb23 | i know the feeling |
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| 20:24.51 | borg_ | abraxa_: hehe, let him do his version of the gui, it is always good to have choice :) |
| 20:25.36 | abraxa_ | Yeah |
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| 20:25.52 | abraxa_ | Of course I let him ;) |
| 20:25.57 | borg_ | ;) |
| 20:26.35 | borg_ | it is hard to figure out how to change the volume and how to move forward in the track so ;) |
| 20:26.56 | borg_ | it works nice when you know how to do it |
| 20:29.01 | abraxa_ | Yeah, university is stealing my time currently which is why I didn't work on it as much as I want to |
| 20:29.11 | abraxa_ | Otherwise I would've finished the new wiki page also |
| 20:29.34 | borg_ | hehe, same here, bad universities ;) |
| 20:30.29 | abraxa_ | ajbrun: naffm? |
| 20:30.36 | ajbrun | naff |
| 20:30.40 | ajbrun | typo |
| 20:30.46 | ajbrun | naff = not very good |
| 20:30.52 | abraxa_ | oh |
| 20:32.02 | ajbrun | i wouldn't mind having a go at something easy to visualise like a media player (not saying it's easy to make abraxa_), rather than a gps thing or something |
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| 20:32.36 | ajbrun | but i need the phone first anyway :)# |
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| 20:35.34 | CVirus | borg_: abraxa_: What uni ? |
| 20:35.38 | abraxa_ | ajbrun: Yeah of course, though you can already start learning how to use/write for e |
| 20:35.55 | abraxa_ | That'll come in handy when writing for the Neo later ;) |
| 20:35.55 | ajbrun | i've never heard of e :( |
| 20:36.02 | abraxa_ | www.enlightenment.org |
| 20:36.16 | abraxa_ | CVirus: Just the local universtity I'm attending |
| 20:36.25 | CVirus | abraxa_: name ? |
| 20:36.33 | ajbrun | i doubt i'd end up making anything serious - just to play about with or something |
| 20:36.53 | abraxa_ | CVirus: You won't know if even if you live in Germany |
| 20:37.02 | CVirus | oh |
| 20:37.36 | CVirus | I'm a student at The German University in Cairo by the way :-) |
| 20:38.00 | CVirus | top Uni in Egypt |
| 20:38.16 | CVirus | Thank you germans :-) |
| 20:42.25 | borg_ | we have a university in egypt? |
| 20:42.30 | ajbrun | lol |
| 20:42.39 | ajbrun | you an egyption? |
| 20:42.55 | borg_ | how is the wether there? perhaps i should change :) |
| 20:43.18 | ajbrun | are there a lot of germans here or something? |
| 20:43.45 | abraxa_ | CVirus: hehe nice :) |
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| 20:45.11 | borg_ | ajbrun: it is probabably the majority here |
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| 20:57.48 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03sameo * r3631 10/developers/sameo/patches/ar6k-ng/160-ar6k_ng.patch: |
| 20:57.48 | CIA-23 | openmoko: ar6k-ng: Almost done with the mainline SDIO stack conversion. |
| 20:57.48 | CIA-23 | openmoko: htc_send.c is left. |
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| 21:03.52 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03sameo * r3632 10/developers/sameo/patches/ar6k-ng/ (155-sdio_io_generic_rw.patch series): ar6k-ng: Added a generic SDIO rw function. |
| 21:03.55 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03ortalo * r3633 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-calculator2/ (Makefile.am autogen.sh configure.ac po/LINGUAS po/it.po): |
| 21:03.55 | CIA-23 | openmoko: Added Italian translation, courtesy of Milo Casagrande <milo_casagrande@yahoo.it> |
| 21:03.55 | CIA-23 | openmoko: Switched to a separate LINGUAS file (pointed by Milo too) while adjusting |
| 21:03.55 | CIA-23 | openmoko: configure.ac to include an AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(.) directive for safety. |
| 21:03.57 | CIA-23 | openmoko: The latter may affect several other packages (see bug 1095 for details). |
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| 21:10.52 | ahven | can someone link to an article about bitbake and openmoko? trying to compile scummvm by myself |
| 21:11.14 | CM | ahven: There is an ipkg for scummvm already |
| 21:11.29 | borg_ | and it works quite well |
| 21:11.39 | ahven | it doesn't work for me |
| 21:11.45 | borg_ | oh :( |
| 21:11.50 | ahven | it installs fine, but the scummvm wont execute |
| 21:11.58 | ahven | says that there is no file |
| 21:12.05 | ahven | though 'ls' shows it |
| 21:12.08 | borg_ | thats odd |
| 21:12.26 | borg_ | i use the ScaredyCat image, i think it is preinstalled there |
| 21:12.54 | ahven | yup, that works |
| 21:13.06 | ahven | but the terminal over there is screwed up somehow |
| 21:13.11 | borg_ | ok |
| 21:13.12 | borg_ | :P |
| 21:13.18 | ahven | atleast backspace doesn't work the way it should |
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| 21:13.43 | borg_ | yes, thats true, i can confirm it ;) |
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| 21:22.04 | Stephmw | opo|away: I believe there's also a .de dedicated channel in case you fancy some deutsch love |
| 21:23.03 | opo|away | i must learn english |
| 21:23.05 | opo|away | :) |
| 21:23.42 | Stephmw | it's all good, quite a few devs are based in europe |
| 21:23.47 | ortalo | hello! anyone here has tried to compile openmoko-browser2 (with webkit)? |
| 21:24.24 | Stephmw | ortalo: not I, sorry - I've run it on a Zaurus though :D |
| 21:24.43 | opo|away | in October 2008 i would go to america for practical training at google |
| 21:24.45 | opo|away | :) |
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| 21:24.59 | opo|away | and then my english must been better ten yet |
| 21:25.20 | ortalo | don't worry |
| 21:25.35 | ortalo | everyone speaks bad english |
| 21:25.54 | ortalo | maybe even in US/UK ;-) |
| 21:25.57 | opo|away | ;D |
| 21:26.30 | Stephmw | ortalo: yeah, if anything, the USians and Brits have worse english than the others... as populations, of course :D |
| 21:26.33 | opo|away | i have problems with the gramma |
| 21:26.46 | opo|away | i write in english like i speak in german |
| 21:26.49 | opo|away | :) |
| 21:26.50 | ahven | can anyone test by installing scummvm? |
| 21:26.58 | CM | The americans have problems with their spelling for sure.. ;) |
| 21:27.36 | Stephmw | CM: *grin* "It's spelt colOUR, dammit!" |
| 21:27.37 | ortalo | scummvm? what's this? |
| 21:27.46 | ahven | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Scummvm |
| 21:27.51 | ahven | scummvm: not found |
| 21:28.01 | CM | Stephmw: Hehe, and night, not nite, armour/armor.. ;) |
| 21:28.07 | ahven | root@fic-gta01:/media/card/scummvm$ ls -la /usr/bin/scummvm |
| 21:28.07 | ahven | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4986216 Aug 15 13:34 /usr/bin/scummvm |
| 21:29.12 | mmontour | ahven: I'd guess that your binary is built as OABI rather than EABI |
| 21:29.22 | ortalo | oh, how could I leave without knowing this application...? |
| 21:29.24 | ahven | did not build it myself :) |
| 21:29.34 | ortalo | oops, s/leave/live |
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| 21:31.43 | balrog-kun | ahven: you can check that using "file" |
| 21:32.29 | mmontour | ahven: Do you have the gllin GPS driver installed? It includes an OABI version of some of the system libraries. |
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| 21:33.14 | ahven | yes I have it |
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| 21:36.04 | mmontour | 'cd' into the gllin dir, then try: lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib /usr/bin/scummvm |
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| 21:39.57 | ahven | $ lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib /usr/bin/scummvm |
| 21:39.57 | ahven | /usr/bin/scummvm: /home/root/gllin/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.5' not found (required by /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3) |
| 21:39.57 | ahven | /usr/bin/scummvm: /home/root/gllin/lib/libdl.so.2: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libX11.so.6) |
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| 21:42.38 | mmontour | OK, looks like it is an OABI binary (from before the switch to the "2007.2" framework). |
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| 21:45.05 | ahven | ok |
| 21:45.12 | balrog-kun | the libs in the chroot are quite old |
| 21:45.31 | ahven | so back to my original question - is there any nice instructions on bitbake and openmoko? :) |
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| 21:48.37 | mmontour | There is an "application development crash course" page on the wiki |
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| 21:55.26 | cjb_ie | http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/11/willcom-shows-off-an-android-prototype/ |
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| 23:28.42 | LittleIdiot | harzi: do you want a reply to your message to the labor via mail or irc? ;) |
| 23:29.56 | harzi | LittleIdiot: oh, don't mind... |
| 23:30.24 | harzi | I am in #linux.ch or /query |
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