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| 03:00.07 | CIA-16 | openmoko: drivers/nand/nand_bbt.c:dynpart_size, dynpart_names: don't declare arrays as |
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| 03:36.37 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03werner * r1842 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/nand-dynamic_partitions.patch: |
| 03:36.37 | CIA-16 | openmoko: drivers/nand/nand_bbt.c:nand_create_mtd_dynpart: mtdparts termination was |
| 03:36.37 | CIA-16 | openmoko: correct. I misunderstood what it did, sorry. |
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| 06:09.22 | Rakshasa | Mmorgen alle. |
| 06:09.28 | kito_ | morgen |
| 06:09.41 | kito_ | hah, ich koente Deutsch sprechen! |
| 06:11.04 | Rakshasa | Good for you. I'm already starting to forget everything but 'morgen alle' |
| 06:11.29 | kito_ | heh |
| 06:11.43 | kito_ | I have to go to class everyday so I haven't forgotten yet |
| 06:12.02 | kito_ | I'll be in Germany this summer so hopefully I'll be able to say a thing or two |
| 06:12.35 | Rakshasa | That could prove useful.. |
| 06:12.51 | kito_ | seems that way to me |
| 06:13.43 | Rakshasa | I do wish I knew german better, but just haven't got the motivation to study it atm. |
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| 06:16.37 | kito_ | eh, I wish I had time for all sorts of stuff |
| 06:16.42 | kito_ | like programming phones |
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| 06:20.08 | Rakshasa | Same here. |
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| 06:52.43 | kito_ | hah. I was thinking about learning to program for windows mobile, but apparently there aren't many linux tools for that |
| 06:52.45 | kito_ | go figure |
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| 07:19.19 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 07:20.23 | kito_ | 'morning |
| 07:20.32 | kito_ | no, crap, its 2am |
| 07:20.36 | kito_ | I need some sleep |
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| 07:32.57 | Herod2k | hi guys |
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| 08:16.48 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: do you happen to know if projects.om.org is finally working? |
| 08:17.13 | Maulkin | Morning |
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| 08:55.37 | TRIsoft | morning |
| 08:58.02 | ynezz | kito_: you can compile apps for windows mobile under wine and connect it using synce... |
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| 09:15.00 | kiney | counter |
| 09:15.01 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 : >= 2007-05-10 (uncertainty is a guess) P1: 2 weeks, 4 days 14:44:59 (18.615 +-3.5 days) (1020;180) |
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| 09:59.49 | yacc | kito_: same thing with Symbian. It's a PITA to do anything on Linux. And somehow I'm strongly disinclined to install Windows on my box just to do programming, ... |
| 10:01.05 | mjr | There is no uncertainty. 10th of May is my birthday. My Neo _will_ ship on 10th. |
| 10:02.58 | Stephmw | ... 2009 |
| 10:03.07 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:15.33 | eyowin | /proc/bus/usb/ |
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| 10:16.03 | eyowin | /proc/bus/usb/devices |
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| 10:17.25 | hrw | right.. |
| 10:17.31 | hrw | forgot to check there ;D |
| 10:17.37 | hrw | C: #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 2 Atr=c0 MxPwr=500mA |
| 10:18.15 | eyowin | hrw: just luck, because got a mice problem yesterday - didn't know it before that ;-) |
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| 10:53.31 | Rakshasa | 2' |
| 10:53.33 | Rakshasa | ' |
| 10:53.42 | Rakshasa | "those using open operating systems such as Windows Mobile"? O.o |
| 10:54.14 | Rakshasa | interesting use of the word open. |
| 10:54.40 | Stephmw | operators use it differently... hence the 'Open Mobile Alliance' |
| 10:54.51 | Stephmw | operators use it to refer to an OS they can change |
| 10:54.55 | Stephmw | (themselves) |
| 10:55.08 | Stephmw | some manufacturers don't allow that |
| 10:55.47 | koen | MS will happily give you the source for wince if you buy a gazillion licenses |
| 10:56.09 | kabturek | and sell your soul |
| 10:56.14 | Rakshasa | Well, that's open allright XD |
| 10:56.57 | XorA | open != free/libre |
| 10:56.57 | zecke|away | Stephmw: what is your issue with OMA? |
| 10:58.09 | koen | GMAE ftw! |
| 11:01.52 | Stephmw | zecke|away: only that it's yet another way to interpret the term 'open' |
| 11:01.55 | Stephmw | zecke|away: nothing more |
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| 11:28.07 | wehttamb_ | the last idea on this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/UI_Improvements |
| 11:28.33 | wehttamb_ | could it be possible to use the AUX button instead of the midle of the wheel |
| 11:28.44 | wehttamb_ | then it would be possible |
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| 11:31.11 | wehttamb_ | is the AUX button used for anything at the moment? |
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| 12:15.10 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1843 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (29 files): * Reduce filename lengths |
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| 12:23.57 | _blondy_ | the best Spanish vidente visits his blog are very interesting rituals of love and many things but visitalo 12http://eltarotdesalem.blogspot.com/ |
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| 12:28.15 | jeddy3 | ...ok |
| 12:30.11 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03dodji * r1844 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 12:30.11 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Added direction, gsmlocation, startlocation properties to journal entries. |
| 12:30.11 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * oe/conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc: this needs and update |
| 12:30.12 | CIA-16 | openmoko: of the version of edsdbus to svn 20070426 because we pushed |
| 12:30.12 | CIA-16 | openmoko: a couple of fixes and enhancement in there. These fixes/enhancements |
| 12:30.15 | CIA-16 | openmoko: are mandatory for this patch to work. |
| 12:30.17 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/libmokojournal/src/moko-journal.c,h: |
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| 13:24.32 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 : >= 2007-05-10 (uncertainty is a guess) P1: 2 weeks, 4 days 10:35:28 (18.441 +-3.5 days) (1021;180) |
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| 14:14.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03rob * r1845 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/src/main.c: |
| 14:14.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Switch to using the MokoScrolledPane rather than MokoDetailsWindow for the |
| 14:14.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: details pane. |
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| 15:37.58 | simon__ | counter? |
| 15:37.58 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 : >= 2007-05-10 (uncertainty is a guess) source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; 2 weeks, 4 days 08:22:01 (18.349 +-3.5 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-13); 4 months, 2 weeks, 5 days (142.849 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (1022;180) |
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| 15:58.54 | TRIsoft | gtg, cu |
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| 17:38.15 | kiney | counter? |
| 17:38.15 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 : >= 2007-05-10 (uncertainty is a guess) source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; 2 weeks, 4 days 06:21:44 (18.265 +-3.5 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-13); 4 months, 2 weeks, 5 days (142.765 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (1023;180) |
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| 17:43.52 | PBeck | hi |
| 17:43.54 | SrRaven | the chances of the openmoko getting a cam are slim to none eh? |
| 17:44.02 | SrRaven | servus pbeck |
| 17:44.05 | PBeck | hi |
| 17:44.26 | PBeck | hey SrRaven |
| 17:45.48 | Rio79 | good... i dont care about the camera, unless it can compete with phones in asia |
| 17:46.03 | Rio79 | 6mp |
| 17:46.13 | Sup3rkiddo | well subjective opinions.. would rather go in for usb 2.0 or wifi in place of a camera.. |
| 17:46.17 | SrRaven | well I would even be happy with vga |
| 17:46.25 | thresh | hey, so we're not supposed to make homeporn with neo? |
| 17:46.29 | thresh | :( |
| 17:46.44 | guaqua | i'd prefer wlan over a camera |
| 17:46.46 | nnpiggy | thresh: audio & text only... |
| 17:46.55 | thresh | nnpiggy: back in 1980! |
| 17:47.00 | Rio79 | same here |
| 17:47.00 | Sup3rkiddo | thresh, no....sadly...but nothing prevents you from watching it ;P |
| 17:47.02 | thresh | well, i'll prefer wifi too. |
| 17:47.07 | SrRaven | I also would prefer wifi over a camera,but that it doesnt have a camera is a turn off kinda |
| 17:47.08 | thresh | Sup3rkiddo: :)) |
| 17:47.27 | guaqua | or wifi and a camera though... |
| 17:47.28 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1852 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/configure.ac: * Fix build |
| 17:47.36 | guaqua | and video phone calls |
| 17:47.47 | SrRaven | I got a mobile without a cam right now,it annoys the living big jesus outta me |
| 17:47.54 | thresh | ...video over gprs? |
| 17:47.58 | thresh | you're kidding, right? |
| 17:47.58 | Sup3rkiddo | lol...i need to save my pocket money asap.. |
| 17:48.05 | Sup3rkiddo | thresh, thats murder |
| 17:48.10 | guaqua | thresh: see my previous line |
| 17:48.19 | guaqua | thresh: which says something about wifi and camera |
| 17:48.21 | thresh | oh well. |
| 17:48.37 | SrRaven | if you mean me thresh,no im not |
| 17:48.45 | guaqua | i'd love to have an actual functional video call phone |
| 17:48.50 | thresh | no i meant guaqua :) |
| 17:48.53 | guaqua | dunno what to do with it :> |
| 17:49.38 | SrRaven | ngage lol |
| 17:49.46 | SrRaven | I got a samsung sghx200 |
| 17:49.51 | pjz | woot.com has $20 for a 4GB SD card right now |
| 17:49.57 | Sup3rkiddo | SrRaven, no not..the elefant ear thingy |
| 17:50.05 | pjz | too bad we don't know if the openmoko will support them yet |
| 17:50.24 | SrRaven | I loved the ngage,could make so much fun of the way of calling |
| 17:50.41 | SrRaven | I think the sd card size it can take depends on firmware right?! |
| 17:50.42 | Sup3rkiddo | SrRaven, i have the qd thing...makes a nice projectile |
| 17:50.57 | SrRaven | yeah,but damn was that thing a failure |
| 17:51.08 | SrRaven | someone porting scummvm btw ? |
| 17:52.02 | Sup3rkiddo | SrRaven, i needed the cheapest symbian60 to hack some python code |
| 17:52.15 | SrRaven | haha |
| 17:52.37 | nnpiggy | Hmm... scummvm sounds like a fun project... |
| 17:52.50 | SrRaven | Id do it,but I got no clue how to code |
| 17:52.58 | SrRaven | the source code is out...so....yeah |
| 17:52.58 | nnpiggy | I need something to work on until there's GPS to play with. |
| 17:53.10 | Sup3rkiddo | SrRaven, whether i did code python...thats another issue... |
| 17:53.26 | SrRaven | hehe,Im happy that my IT teacher quit today |
| 17:53.32 | SrRaven | that means I dont have IT anymore |
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| 17:53.59 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03rob * r1853 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/src/main.c: Fix build problem. |
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| 17:56.13 | Sup3rkiddo | SrRaven, cheers man.. |
| 17:56.43 | SrRaven | yeah was weird,the girls still have IT but as our teacher quit,we either can go mondays as the girls or just quit |
| 17:56.45 | pjz | Sup3rkiddo: cheapest sumbian60 is like a nokia 6620 |
| 17:57.20 | Sup3rkiddo | pjz, yeah but i am talking a year ago..and dunno if we get that here in India |
| 17:57.39 | pjz | Sup3rkiddo: 6620 is like 3+ years old |
| 17:57.58 | Sup3rkiddo | pjz, hmm |
| 17:58.06 | SrRaven | So to the programmers here,how long does it even take to port a programm? |
| 17:58.39 | pjz | SrRaven: depends on the language and how differnt the platforms are |
| 17:58.54 | SrRaven | Im talking about scummvm as example |
| 17:58.56 | pjz | SrRaven: basically, it depends on hwo much rewriting has to be done |
| 17:58.57 | SrRaven | to openmoko |
| 17:58.57 | Sup3rkiddo | pjz, pretty sure that model didnt come here |
| 17:59.23 | pjz | SrRaven: oh, that should be easy |
| 17:59.24 | Sup3rkiddo | SrRaven, depends on the size...i am having problems porting my hello world programs..:P |
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| 17:59.35 | SrRaven | :p |
| 17:59.43 | SrRaven | I need to learn to code |
| 18:01.22 | nnpiggy | SrRaven, most applications are written without considering cross-compilation problems. The average package we did at TimeSys took a typical experienced programmer 3-4 days to resolve most cross-compilation issues. |
| 18:01.56 | nnpiggy | I imagine the first program I port to OpenMoko will take me a couple weeks because it's a new environment for me. |
| 18:02.00 | SrRaven | so that means about a month for me :P |
| 18:02.17 | nnpiggy | Which, the 3-4 days? |
| 18:02.22 | balrog-kun | nnpiggy: yeha |
| 18:02.27 | SrRaven | yeah |
| 18:02.32 | balrog-kun | unless you're talking about porting toa different X toolkit etc |
| 18:02.58 | SrRaven | Well I got no clue of coding at all,so for me that as learning thing is probably totally useless |
| 18:03.24 | nnpiggy | No, I'm just talking about resolving most cross-compilation issues. That generally means, port it to PPC, arm, and maybe one other platform. By that time, you've got most issues resolved and it will just compile on additional platforms. |
| 18:03.36 | pjz | oh, why crosscompile? why not set up a dev enviro on an arm (or arm vm) and natively build it? |
| 18:03.55 | balrog-kun | usually adding cross-compiling support Linux as host and Linux as target is a matter of making the Makefile know about CROSS_COMPILE |
| 18:04.21 | balrog-kun | talking about normal programs that don't use assembler |
| 18:04.47 | nnpiggy | TimeSys makes their money by helping people cross-compile things. It allows you to use a large pool of powerful build machines. If you are building hundreds of packages for dozens of platforms, raw speed is very important. |
| 18:04.49 | balrog-kun | in my experience things like endianness and alignment matter very rarely for gcc |
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| 18:05.26 | nnpiggy | Certainly, some applications are well-written and just work, so you can do one or two of those per day. |
| 18:05.29 | SrRaven | but just the thought of monkey island on openmoko makes me all tingly |
| 18:06.10 | Sup3rkiddo | nethack should be awesome |
| 18:06.20 | nnpiggy | The challenge is getting the auto* tools to play nice. They have the irritating habit of probing the machine they are on... |
| 18:06.42 | Sup3rkiddo | irritating would be an understatement |
| 18:06.49 | balrog-kun | Sup3rkiddo: nethack quite probably is already in Familiar feeds and probably in debian-arm |
| 18:07.04 | balrog-kun | Sup3rkiddo: i've seen 0verkill running on the palms |
| 18:07.09 | Sup3rkiddo | balrog-kun, coool.. |
| 18:07.56 | Sup3rkiddo | maybe rig up a bt keyboard and shower ascii glory upon friends...aah...the thought creates goosebumps |
| 18:08.09 | nnpiggy | When we switched to tsrpm from hand-patching, we were able to get 4-5 packages per day ported. It's an awsome (if somewhat painful) tool. |
| 18:09.19 | pjz | nnpiggy: enh, autotools are okay; try cross compiling perl for some real fun. |
| 18:09.45 | nnpiggy | Yeah, Tony Egan did perl for us. It took about 3 weeks. |
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| 18:10.16 | nnpiggy | perl SORTOF has cross-compilation support. It wants to log into the target board via ssh... |
| 18:10.26 | pjz | yeah |
| 18:10.45 | nnpiggy | Tony ripped that out and made a platform description which he could force-feed to the build. |
| 18:10.58 | pjz | nice |
| 18:11.17 | nnpiggy | It means about a day's work for every upgrade to re-integrate, but not too bad. |
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| 18:11.52 | nnpiggy | Rob Landley has a cool system he's working on. It's a hybrid of qemu and a crosscompiler (invoked via distcc). |
| 18:12.41 | pjz | isn't there a buildsystem that just does native compiles under a VM ? |
| 18:12.55 | balrog-kun | oh yes, i remember reading something about it on his site |
| 18:13.06 | balrog-kun | it's supposed to be a scratchbox replacement |
| 18:13.13 | nnpiggy | Yeah, that's Rob too. The distcc mod was my suggestino. |
| 18:14.02 | balrog-kun | i've heard of maybe two more to-become-scratchbox-replacements |
| 18:15.09 | nnpiggy | Do you mean busybox replacements, balrog-kun? |
| 18:15.35 | balrog-kun | nope, busybox is not a build system |
| 18:15.38 | balrog-kun | and does not use qemu |
| 18:16.14 | nnpiggy | Rob's first cut at a self-bootstrapping build system is busybox-based. |
| 18:16.43 | nnpiggy | He's started a rewrite of busybox to better support his buildsystem. |
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| 18:18.21 | nnpiggy | Ah! I can't believe I'd forgotten that... |
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| 18:18.43 | Luna | Hello |
| 18:18.57 | nnpiggy | Welcome, Luna |
| 18:19.13 | Luna | :) Hi |
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| 18:24.14 | Luna | I'm looking to install another OS onto my Nokia 7610. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 18:24.14 | aloril | Luna: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 18:26.34 | Luna | Can anyone hear me? |
| 18:26.47 | pjz | yes |
| 18:26.53 | Luna | ah right lol |
| 18:27.11 | Luna | there was an autotrigger, not sure If it let me speak |
| 18:27.17 | Luna | I'm looking to install another OS onto my Nokia 7610. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 18:27.31 | balrog-kun | we've seen this already |
| 18:27.38 | Luna | oh right hah |
| 18:27.46 | Luna | I take it you dont't know |
| 18:28.01 | balrog-kun | on IRC if your message doesn't reach a channel you get a notice from the server about it |
| 18:28.40 | Luna | on IRC peopel normaly talk |
| 18:28.46 | Luna | people* |
| 18:28.59 | pjz | Luna: this channel is about one particular phone, not about putting different OSes on phones in general |
| 18:29.20 | Luna | ok thanks thats all I needed to know, thanks again. Goodbye |
| 18:30.38 | balrog-kun | i'd say this channel is about one particular OS |
| 18:35.42 | pjz | fair enough |
| 18:38.25 | koen | ks-[AWAY_WORK]: wb |
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| 18:56.14 | yacc | balrog-kun: I'd say it's about one specific software stack. |
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| 18:57.33 | balrog-kun | yacc: isn't a software stack (with Linux in it) called a distribution? |
| 18:57.51 | balrog-kun | oh, i said OS |
| 19:01.04 | high-rez | counter |
| 19:01.04 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 : >= 2007-05-10 (uncertainty is a guess) P1: 2 weeks, 4 days 04:58:55 (18.208 +-3.5 days) (1024;180) |
| 19:01.11 | high-rez | hey |
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| 19:57.38 | cga | hi all |
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| 20:06.32 | SrRaven | btw is the neo1973 screen designed so you can read even with sun shining onto it? |
| 20:07.01 | MacNorth | i've read opinions otherwise, but i supposed it's fairly subjective |
| 20:07.20 | ewon | counter |
| 20:07.21 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 : >= 2007-05-10 (uncertainty is a guess) P1: 2 weeks, 4 days 03:52:39 (18.162 +-3.5 days) (1025;180) |
| 20:07.43 | SrRaven | meh,2 guys from my class got smartphones and that annoys me when I use it sometimes (and that they just dont even use the capacity of those things) |
| 20:08.22 | imitation | so, does anyone know about the other 5 models announced by FIC? |
| 20:08.22 | aloril | imitation: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
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| 20:14.17 | DukeOfURL | counter |
| 20:14.17 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 : >= 2007-05-10 (uncertainty is a guess) P1: 2 weeks, 4 days 03:45:42 (18.157 +-3.5 days) (1026;180) |
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| 20:18.15 | DukeOfURL | i've been away for a week. What's happening with the P1 schedule? |
| 20:18.15 | MacNorth | sean made an annoucement |
| 20:18.16 | DukeOfURL | Can you point me to it? |
| 20:18.16 | MacNorth | two runs are scheduled: 10 may, 20 may |
| 20:18.27 | DukeOfURL | production runs? |
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| 20:54.23 | woglinde | counter |
| 20:54.23 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 : >= 2007-05-10 (uncertainty is a guess) P1: 2 weeks, 4 days 03:05:36 (18.129 +-3.5 days) (1027;180) |
| 20:59.21 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03dodji * r1854 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:59.21 | CIA-16 | openmoko: added MokoJournalVoiceInfo::callee-number,caller_number properties. |
| 20:59.21 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/libmokojournal/src/moko-journal.c,h: |
| 20:59.21 | CIA-16 | openmoko: added a MokoJournalVoiceInfo::callee_number. |
| 20:59.21 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Rename MokoJournalVoiceInfo::dialed_number into |
| 20:59.23 | CIA-16 | openmoko: MokoJournalVoiceInfo::caller_number. Both properties are serialized. |
| 21:00.24 | guaqua | callee number? |
| 21:02.13 | Vegar | number that was called? |
| 21:02.21 | Vegar | in case you have several numbers? |
| 21:03.47 | guaqua | is callee number "which number i called from" ? |
| 21:04.15 | balrog-kun | that's caller |
| 21:04.15 | robster | uhm |
| 21:04.19 | DukeOfURL | caller is the person who initiated the call. callee is the person receiving the call. |
| 21:04.37 | robster | this doesn't quite make sense does it. |
| 21:05.10 | guaqua | called number would be the one |
| 21:05.12 | guaqua | not callee |
| 21:05.15 | DukeOfURL | called number is the number called. calling number is the number that initiated the call. |
| 21:05.56 | guaqua | caller, called, calling |
| 21:05.59 | guaqua | those i do understand |
| 21:06.03 | inz | http://m-w.com/dictionary/callee |
| 21:06.53 | woglinde | hihi |
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| 21:41.26 | wehttamb_ | what is the AUX button used for? |
| 21:41.40 | woglinde | call 911 |
| 21:41.51 | woglinde | or what it is in your country |
| 21:41.54 | wehttamb_ | is that all it does? |
| 21:42.10 | wehttamb_ | k |
| 21:42.20 | woglinde | isnt thta enough for a button? |
| 21:42.23 | SrRaven | I doubt you wont be able to reprogramm it |
| 21:42.30 | wehttamb_ | k |
| 21:45.19 | wehttamb_ | could you use it by holding it and then moving the stylus down or up the page to scroll |
| 21:45.44 | wehttamb_ | u could use it instead of needing a multi-touch screen |
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| 21:46.54 | SpeedEvil | Bugger. Just spent the money I had allocated for the neo. http://www.mauve.plus.com/two.jpg is why. (am ok) |
| 21:48.16 | woglinde | too much speed? |
| 21:48.48 | SpeedEvil | Misread road sign. |
| 21:48.55 | woglinde | what? |
| 21:49.39 | SpeedEvil | Was in a hurry, and misread road sign saying 'turnoff to hospital in 1/2 mile' (taking someone to appointment) as turnoff now. |
| 21:50.25 | SpeedEvil | and badly misjudged the corner. The road looked a bit deceptively like it might be a slip-road off, the barrier was not visible. |
| 21:50.32 | woglinde | I praise our german inz thoroughness |
| 21:50.44 | woglinde | uh |
| 21:51.07 | woglinde | so you thought the hospital is in the woods |
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| 21:51.18 | SpeedEvil | It actually is. |
| 21:51.29 | SpeedEvil | It's .3 miles in the exact direction the car is pointing. |
| 21:51.45 | woglinde | :( |
| 21:52.32 | SpeedEvil | Unfortunately, I suspect I'll have money by the time the neo is available. |
| 21:53.07 | woglinde | best is you didnt get hurt |
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| 21:58.30 | SpeedEvil | Yeah - slightly aching back - but fine basically. |
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| 22:17.09 | thomasg_gpm | 2 days without pc and I missed the release mail :) |
| 22:17.43 | thomasg_gpm | hope the first 150 devices will be delivered fast (to hear some opinions) |
| 22:18.10 | maydaytx_ | SpeedEvil: was it at least fun? |
| 22:18.11 | woglinde | hihi |
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| 22:22.04 | SpeedEvil | Well... No. |
| 22:22.41 | SpeedEvil | I'd be quite happy with a minor fault, and a screen arriving later in the post. |
| 22:23.21 | maydaytx_ | i accidentally went through a heavy duty chain-link fence in my car...i gotta say it was pretty fun |
| 22:23.30 | maydaytx_ | like the movies |
| 22:25.54 | SpeedEvil | Chain link - Ok. 3" steel bar of unknown solidity heading at your head, not so much fun. |
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| 22:26.40 | maydaytx_ | heavy duty chain-link |
| 22:27.38 | maydaytx_ | steel bars with chain link between |
| 22:30.55 | CoreDump|home | damaging the car sucks in either way |
| 22:32.40 | CoreDump|home | does anybody know a good ebook reader which can turn pages via touchscreen taps? |
| 22:32.51 | CoreDump|home | s/good/useable |
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| 22:38.21 | roh | CoreDump|home does "a good ebook reader" exist at all? |
| 22:39.03 | CoreDump|home | roh: actually "opie-reader" (for Opie / qte only) kicks ass |
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| 22:39.35 | roh | CoreDump|home which formats does it render? |
| 22:39.47 | CoreDump|home | lots and lots of them |
| 22:40.13 | CoreDump|home | html, txt, *.gz, plucker to name a few |
| 22:40.52 | zecke | and it is portable |
| 22:41.50 | CoreDump|home | _best_ Opie app _ever_ (IMO) |
| 22:43.13 | zecke | CoreDump|home: luckily I'm too tired to say that it does... |
| 22:44.01 | CoreDump|home | natively? w/ pulling in 5Mb of qt-something-or-another libs? :\ |
| 22:44.45 | zecke | CoreDump|home: it is probably only 3MB ;) |
| 22:45.21 | roh | CoreDump|home ah.. just found tims pda page... sigh.. totally useless for me this tool |
| 22:45.35 | CoreDump|home | roh: sorry to hear that |
| 22:46.00 | roh | i just need text and pdf. eventuall chm, but i havent seen all the other formats anywhere in reallife as ebook |
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