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| 00:35.08 | Elrond | Someone in here uses the 2410 in another project in his company. Who was that? |
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| 00:43.41 | _ASK | hi guys |
| 00:44.24 | Elrond | And morgaine is also not anymore here. :-| |
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| 00:58.46 | CoreDump|home | Elrond: http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23openmoko/2007/March/20070331_openmoko.log#[20070331%2020:07:19] ? |
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| 01:06.49 | Elrond | CoreDump|home - No, I think, I meant fluffs. |
| 01:07.08 | Elrond | CoreDump|home - But thanks for the hint. :) |
| 01:07.17 | CoreDump|home | np |
| 01:08.11 | Elrond | Night people. :) |
| 01:08.27 | CoreDump|home | g'night |
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| 02:38.00 | empty_mind | is openmoko.org down ? |
| 02:38.29 | madewokherd | seems to be |
| 02:38.31 | rwhitby | svn.om.org seems to be |
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| 02:38.59 | rwhitby | they're trying to tell everyone to go have easter. |
| 02:39.14 | MacNorth | a bit ethnocentric |
| 02:39.24 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
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| 02:40.42 | rwhitby | very true. I hear you don't even get public holidays for easter in the US. |
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| 02:40.58 | rwhitby | (we get a four day weekend in Australia) |
| 02:41.35 | MacNorth | even fewer when i was in japan |
| 02:41.45 | MacNorth | tho, the autumn equinox got was holiday :) |
| 02:42.18 | MacNorth | was in perth for anzac day, that was nice :) |
| 02:57.21 | empty_mind | rwhitby, i cant even access svn.om.org |
| 02:57.57 | empty_mind | (we have got four day weekend in Delhi too) |
| 03:04.59 | _ASK | openmoko applications depend on OpenMoko API or they also depend on the underlying OS? |
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| 03:48.14 | bhima | Germany had lots of christian holidays. |
| 03:48.36 | bhima | THey had holidays for events on teh christian calendar I'd never heard of. |
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| 04:19.10 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1: a week, 2 days 03:50:25 (9.160 +-9.2 days) (773,148) |
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| 07:32.59 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 08:44.56 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1: a week, 2 days 01:37:32 (9.068 +-9.1 days) (774,148) |
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| 09:01.21 | fish | re |
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| 09:09.56 | mickey|meeting | morning |
| 09:13.49 | xkr47 | morning |
| 09:15.47 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03laforge * r1682 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-core.patch: start power-down after three, rather than five seconds (Closes: #418) |
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| 09:22.19 | aloril | (script) openmoko-devel: Harald Welte <laforge at openmoko.org> Re: qemu-neo1973 |
| 09:26.19 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Main_Page/fr]] [[Main_Page]] [[Style_Sheet]] [[Help:Contents]] [[Community_Events]] [[Template:Languages]] [[Main_Page/kr]] [[Hardware/de]] [[Hardware/zh_cn]] [[Documentation]] [[Category:Neo1973_Hardware]] [[FAQ/ru]] [[FAQ/zh_cn]] and other changes |
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| 09:47.58 | buz | counter |
| 09:47.58 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1: a week, 2 days 01:06:01 (9.046 +-9.0 days) (775,148) |
| 09:48.05 | rwhitby | looks like everything is back up again. |
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| 10:12.02 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: fetching of uboot-gta fails |
| 10:24.26 | rwhitby | zecke: fetched here ok - svn.openmoko.org was down for a while today |
| 10:24.42 | rwhitby | but it's up again now |
| 10:27.40 | zecke | rwhitby: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showbuilds.pl?tree=OpenMoko somehow there is another try/except missing.... |
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| 11:03.17 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1683 10/trunk/oe/packages/openmoko-apps/openmoko-simplemediaplayer_svn.bb: oe: openmoko-simplemediaplayer needs libid3, not id3lib (yes, that's a different library) |
| 11:03.40 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1684 10/trunk/oe/packages/libid3/ (. libid3_1.1.bb): oe: add libid3, a small library for reading id3 tags |
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| 11:12.45 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1685 10/trunk/oe/packages/openmoko-apps/openmoko-simplemediaplayer_svn.bb: oe: revert last change |
| 11:16.00 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1686 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-simplemediaplayer/beep/ (Makefile.am bmp.desktop.in): openmoko-simplemediaplayer: canonize executable name |
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| 11:19.53 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1687 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-simplemediaplayer/beep/ (Makefile.am openmoko-simplemediaplayer.png): openmoko-simplemediaplayer: add .desktop icon |
| 11:22.19 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Talk:OpenMoko_under_QEMU]] [[WiFi_support_in_OpenMoko]] |
| 11:24.50 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1688 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-simplemediaplayer/beep/Makefile.am: openmoko-simplemediaplayer: properly ship png for .desktop file |
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| 12:33.48 | *** topic/#openmoko is OpenMoko Community Lounge <> Free Your Phone <> wiki.openmoko.org <> Anyone can buy for $350 in a couple of weeks. Mass market in September. |
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| 12:51.26 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1689 10/trunk/oe/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb: oe: add fbgrab into the default image (task-openmoko-debug) |
| 12:55.10 | Shoragan | mickey, could you trigger a rebuild on the buildhost? |
| 12:57.47 | mickey|meeting | Shoragan: I'll launch a full rebuild in my own directory to get your the latest image |
| 12:58.04 | mickey|meeting | will take a couple of hours until completion though |
| 12:58.24 | Shoragan | thanks, it'll be a lot faster than on my thinkpad, tough |
| 12:59.05 | mickey|meeting | most likely, ya :) |
| 12:59.07 | Elrond | mickey|meeting - Greet Sean from the channel, please. |
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| 13:05.16 | roh | aac playing seems to tabe about 33%cpu at 200mhz |
| 13:05.28 | roh | tested with mplayer on henryks moko right now |
| 13:06.39 | SpeedEvil | Thanks. |
| 13:06.47 | SpeedEvil | (if that was in response to my question). |
| 13:07.00 | SpeedEvil | So, comparable to ogg, a little less than MP3? |
| 13:07.58 | roh | nope.. mp3 takes (depending on the player, decoded with libmad) about 20-25% |
| 13:08.36 | roh | mpg123 (floats need to be emulated) about 30% |
| 13:09.20 | roh | we need to do testing with libtremor though, libogg is not really optimized at all for !float platforms |
| 13:11.08 | xkr47 | I thought there was an integer decoder? |
| 13:11.20 | roh | yep. tremor |
| 13:11.23 | xkr47 | sorry :) |
| 13:11.31 | roh | n.p. |
| 13:12.37 | philoware | hi |
| 13:12.48 | philoware | when trying to run qemu |
| 13:12.56 | philoware | i get this error |
| 13:13.09 | philoware | qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x38000000 |
| 13:13.18 | philoware | any idea? |
| 13:13.31 | philoware | qemu-system-arm -M neo -m 512 -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin -usb -show-cursor |
| 13:13.36 | philoware | i use this command |
| 13:14.04 | philoware | qemu-system-arm -M neo -m 128 -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin -usb -show-cursor |
| 13:14.16 | philoware | not 512m, sorry |
| 13:14.32 | philoware | but it does not make any difference |
| 13:14.42 | roh | arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -M neo -m 130 -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image -kernel openmoko/uImage-2.6-moko8-r0_0_1637_0-fic-gta01.bin -usb -show-cursor -snapshot is what i use |
| 13:16.33 | philoware | i got the same error |
| 13:17.14 | roh | hm. which image do you use and what is the system you compile on? |
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| 13:21.52 | philoware | i use the same image as you |
| 13:22.07 | philoware | my system is x86 |
| 13:22.12 | philoware | with linux pardus |
| 13:24.22 | roh | never heard of |
| 13:25.33 | philoware | :) |
| 13:25.51 | philoware | a turkish national distribution |
| 13:26.03 | philoware | i did what it say in the wiki |
| 13:26.14 | roh | did you use mokomakefile? |
| 13:26.27 | philoware | i only typed make |
| 13:27.10 | philoware | do i need to change anything |
| 13:27.28 | philoware | could the makefile be for arm systems |
| 13:27.30 | philoware | ? |
| 13:28.11 | philoware | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU |
| 13:28.22 | philoware | i read this page |
| 13:30.09 | roh | ah.. ok.. so only the emu with a prebuilt moko-image |
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| 13:30.32 | roh | did you configure it with the params as said there? |
| 13:30.53 | roh | and which version is your gcc |
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| 13:38.19 | zecke | mickey|meeting: is g_object_new memsetting the allocated area? |
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| 13:43.57 | philoware | :D |
| 13:44.03 | philoware | i did not have lynx |
| 13:49.40 | roh | uh |
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| 13:55.25 | bedboi | hi there |
| 14:04.53 | Shoragan | mickey, where will the images appear? |
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| 15:03.58 | baze | hi |
| 15:04.37 | baze | i heard the neo 1973 will only have usb 1.1. is an upgrade to usb 2.0 planned for this phone? |
| 15:04.37 | aloril | baze: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
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| 15:07.30 | mjr | one wonders fwhat "this phone" means |
| 15:07.35 | mjr | certainly not the p1 version |
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| 15:14.57 | baze | ok sorry. i meant the p2 one for the mass market |
| 15:15.19 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Main_Page/kr]] [[UI_Improvements]] |
| 15:15.56 | baze | but the faq in the wiki almost answered the question :) |
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| 15:20.59 | mjr | come to think of it, since the usb interface is coupled into the SOC, and the SOC will be upgraded, wonder if the new one does 2.0... Guess that would've been mentioned though. |
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| 15:40.21 | Elrond | usb otg would be more important. |
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| 15:54.01 | TobiX | Elrond: AFAIR one core dev said there would not be USB OTG support... |
| 15:55.22 | roh | not real otg, but it can do client as well as host |
| 15:55.39 | roh | host is unpowered, so you'ld need something to poer the client |
| 15:55.50 | roh | s/poer/power/ |
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| 16:02.57 | Elrond | roh - I know that. But OTG has other aspects than power: OTG can detect on its own, wether it should be client or host. (The cables have trickery for this to work) |
| 16:03.15 | hrw | morning |
| 16:03.19 | Elrond | Hi hrw. |
| 16:03.25 | SpeedEvil | Hello! |
| 16:03.36 | hrw | neo1973 is not OTG capable anyway |
| 16:05.02 | hrw | maybe version after hardware update will be OTG capable but current (Bv3/Bv4) are not |
| 16:07.10 | Elrond | hrw - We were talking about hw-upgrade. |
| 16:07.38 | hrw | ok |
| 16:08.01 | hrw | many people suggest that it will give us s3c2440 or 2443 even |
| 16:09.03 | Elrond | Yeah, it looks like that. Did you already take a look at the specs? |
| 16:09.51 | hrw | no |
| 16:11.15 | hrw | and will not check it here due to conection speed limit |
| 16:12.14 | Elrond | :) |
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| 16:17.08 | mickey|meeting | Shoragan: I'll put them under people.openmoko.org/mickey once they're done |
| 16:17.12 | mickey|meeting | one or two hours more |
| 16:18.04 | roh | if you need an image to test i can copy a fresh one on an http |
| 16:18.19 | zecke | mickey|meeting: you are MIA in #opie.de |
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| 16:25.35 | Mandarino | Hi |
| 16:25.36 | Mandarino | counter |
| 16:25.37 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1: a week, a day 21:47:11 (8.908 +-8.9 days) (776,148) |
| 16:25.50 | SpeedEvil | A week or two. |
| 16:25.58 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1690 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/src/ (rfcdate.c rfcdate.h): openmoko-rssreader: Add a simple untested RFC822 scanner to be used by the TreeModel |
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| 16:27.47 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.28 | Mandarino | Hi speedy :P |
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| 16:32.20 | dho | counter |
| 16:32.20 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1: a week, a day 21:43:50 (8.905 +-8.9 days) (777,148) |
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| 16:40.51 | Sup3rkiddo | hiya..following the announcement about OE freeze, i did a clobber..but when i do a make update i am getting this |
| 16:40.54 | Sup3rkiddo | svn: Working copy '.' locked |
| 16:40.55 | Sup3rkiddo | svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details) |
| 16:40.55 | Sup3rkiddo | make: *** [stamps/patches] Error 1 |
| 16:41.25 | Sup3rkiddo | of course i did run 'svn cleanup .' |
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| 16:52.09 | Mandarino | Esto es lo que se llama un éxito |
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| 17:07.15 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1691 10/trunk/oe/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb: oe: ship openmoko-appmanager in task-openmoko-base |
| 17:10.52 | Sup3rkiddo | well never mind...i flushed bitbake/ and all is well |
| 17:11.19 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Widget_Inheritance_Graph]] |
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| 17:29.44 | mickey|meeting | Shoragan: try the lastest stuff in buildhost.openmoko.org:/tmp/deploy/images |
| 17:30.36 | hrw | mickey|meeting: how goes meeting? |
| 17:31.06 | Shoragan | thx, mickey :) |
| 17:31.08 | hrw | mickey|meeting: maybe some suggestions to counter value? |
| 17:31.13 | hrw | counter |
| 17:31.14 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1: a week, a day 21:14:23 (8.885 +-8.9 days) (778,148) |
| 17:32.09 | Shoragan | so you build on buildhost instead of your own checkout? |
| 17:32.24 | mickey|meeting | yes |
| 17:32.44 | mickey|meeting | my tree always has local diffs |
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| 17:34.27 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 17:34.44 | hrw | CoreDump|home: how goes your neo polishing? |
| 17:35.08 | CoreDump|home | hrw: there really isn't anything to polish yet, now is it? ;) |
| 17:35.23 | CoreDump|home | (the last rootfs from the buildhost was _horrible_) |
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| 17:36.07 | hrw | CoreDump|home: I do not use openmoko distro on neo ;D |
| 17:36.22 | CoreDump|home | hrw: heh! What are you using? Angstrom? |
| 17:36.25 | sannes | hrw: lu |
| 17:36.32 | hrw | CoreDump|home: yes |
| 17:36.33 | sannes | hrw: lfs? |
| 17:36.58 | CoreDump|home | hrw: interesting. |
| 17:37.17 | hrw | CoreDump|home: it works |
| 17:37.24 | empty_mind | hrw, howz angstrom behaving on neo ? |
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| 17:37.57 | hrw | empty_mind: correctly. it boots, it works |
| 17:38.06 | CoreDump|home | hrw: well, the basic OM distro works as well. It's just that you can completely forget the OM applications ontop of matchbox ATM :\ |
| 17:38.22 | empty_mind | hrw, what did you specify as target nachine ? |
| 17:38.32 | koen | geee |
| 17:38.37 | hrw | empty_mind: fic-gta01 |
| 17:38.42 | koen | what target machine for the neo.... |
| 17:38.49 | koen | that's a hard question |
| 17:38.51 | empty_mind | hrw, interesting |
| 17:38.54 | koen | I'll get back to you next week |
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| 17:39.28 | empty_mind | koen, i will wait |
| 17:39.48 | koen | </sarcasm> |
| 17:40.21 | empty_mind | that means i can run angstron in qemu-neo ? |
| 17:40.32 | empty_mind | angstrom* |
| 17:40.54 | CoreDump|home | hrw: If there were replacements for the OM phone-apps I'd be tempted. But IMO the OM stack should be made to work first before I experiemt w/ different distros below OM |
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| 17:42.03 | hrw | empty_mind: to have more strict control over images content? |
| 17:43.13 | empty_mind | hrw, hmm, cant we do tha using ipkg and angstrom ? |
| 17:43.25 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1692 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-calculator/data/Makefile.am: openmoko-calculator: ship .desktop icon in correct directory |
| 17:44.31 | koen | CoreDump|home: openmoko should hire a dozen more experienced FOSS/gtk coders first |
| 17:45.18 | koen | instead of the shanghai lab whose credo seems to be "why patch if you can fork" |
| 17:45.20 | Elrond | Hmm, the wiki can't do redirects? |
| 17:45.29 | CoreDump|home | that is probably true |
| 17:45.29 | empty_mind | koen, or they can use python-openmoko when its ready :-p |
| 17:45.59 | koen | python on a 200mhz arm cpu |
| 17:46.01 | koen | right.. |
| 17:46.21 | empty_mind | koen, i am working on that btw |
| 17:47.08 | empty_mind | koen, we need to do loads of optimization and thoughtfully use cross compilation flags |
| 17:47.25 | koen | OE already has that flags |
| 17:48.00 | empty_mind | koen, yup but having python bindings for openmoko libs is another thing |
| 17:48.06 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1693 10/trunk/oe/packages/openmoko-pim/ (files/openmoko-dates.desktop openmoko-dates_svn.bb): oe: openmokify dates .desktop |
| 17:48.26 | koen | *alarm bells* |
| 17:48.34 | empty_mind | koen, and we need to reduce the footprint too |
| 17:48.37 | koen | "openmokify .desktop" |
| 17:48.44 | koen | *alarm bells* |
| 17:49.54 | mickey|meeting | heh |
| 17:49.57 | mickey|meeting | you guys have crazy ideas |
| 17:50.24 | koen | mickey|meeting: you're still a (asian) company |
| 17:50.30 | empty_mind | mickey|meeting, its less crazy than running asterix on openmoko |
| 17:50.39 | zecke | koen: I bet it is e17's desktop format |
| 17:50.40 | koen | companies like that have crazy notions |
| 17:50.55 | koen | zecke: which uses the fdo spec nowadays |
| 17:51.03 | koen | they dumped .eapps |
| 17:51.16 | CoreDump|home | thank god |
| 17:51.21 | CoreDump|home | .eapps was a PITA |
| 17:51.27 | koen | indeed |
| 17:52.41 | Shoragan | mickey, this image is a lot better than the last one from buildhost.o.o |
| 17:52.59 | mickey|meeting | nod |
| 17:53.08 | mickey|meeting | I've been working on a demo for Sean the whole night |
| 17:53.10 | mickey|meeting | TIRED |
| 17:53.48 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 17:55.36 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1694 10/trunk/oe/packages/openmoko-pim/files/ (Dates.png openmoko-dates.png): oe: catch up with icon rename |
| 17:56.06 | roh | rwhitby are you there? |
| 17:56.40 | hrw | roh: he probably sleep now |
| 17:56.48 | MacNorth | 0400 in au |
| 17:56.53 | dho | Afternoon roh :) |
| 17:57.00 | hrw | 03:25 at rwhitby |
| 17:58.05 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1695 10/trunk/oe/packages/openmoko-base/files/session: openmoko-session: launch all applets |
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| 18:01.21 | roh | hey dho |
| 18:02.42 | hrw | cu |
| 18:04.08 | CoreDump|home | btw, I really have to tell you as feedback: This debug-board cable thingy _really_ honestly to $DEITY sucks :\ |
| 18:04.38 | roh | CoreDump|home we know *sigh* |
| 18:04.45 | Elrond | wiki: How clever was it to use category pages for real content? |
| 18:04.50 | roh | i fought with it also about 6 hours the last 2 days |
| 18:04.54 | koen | CoreDump|home: it only took me 5 hours to get it to connect properly |
| 18:04.58 | CoreDump|home | It looks and feels so fragile I don't really dare using (or removing) it |
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| 18:05.24 | CoreDump|home | koen: do that like 5 to 10 times and you can throw it away :\ |
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| 18:05.28 | koen | it's rated at 20 insertions, so don't brick you neo to often... |
| 18:05.33 | don-o | counter |
| 18:05.34 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1: a week, a day 20:57:13 (8.873 +-8.9 days) (779,148) |
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| 18:05.51 | don-o | monotone can be so Slow to update the tree. |
| 18:06.01 | MacNorth | /can be// ? |
| 18:06.03 | MacNorth | _is_ |
| 18:06.08 | don-o | :) |
| 18:06.19 | MacNorth | all that silly rsa |
| 18:06.26 | don-o | im at 1,676/4,445 "certs in" and its been running for 30 minutes. |
| 18:06.57 | MacNorth | and then it'll tell you that you need to clobber it and start over |
| 18:07.04 | don-o | lol |
| 18:07.16 | roh | first time it takes about 6-7 hours on a fast (core duo 2ghz, 1g ram) computer with about 4mbit sdsl ip |
| 18:07.17 | MacNorth | have you seen that message yet? |
| 18:07.25 | don-o | not yet. |
| 18:07.39 | don-o | i was encouraged by the latest planet posting about 'make qemu' |
| 18:07.57 | don-o | so i dusted off my last attempt to build openmoko |
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| 18:08.28 | don-o | and im waiting through make update-makefile; make update |
| 18:09.12 | don-o | so maybe i can atleast pretend to own a neo1973 :) |
| 18:09.37 | Elrond | tihi. |
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| 18:14.16 | MetaMorfoziS | hi all |
| 18:14.30 | MetaMorfoziS | i ask again, sorry i forget... what program created this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/2/28/Openmokoframework.png ? |
| 18:14.46 | koen | visio? |
| 18:14.49 | koen | or dia? |
| 18:14.57 | koen | maybe even omnigraffle |
| 18:15.09 | MetaMorfoziS | windows program? hard to think.. |
| 18:15.11 | MacNorth | duh! it was paint :-P |
| 18:15.15 | MetaMorfoziS | :D |
| 18:15.48 | roh | i would think omnigraffle ;) |
| 18:16.13 | koen | they to use an ancient eds-dbus version |
| 18:16.17 | koen | 2060126 |
| 18:16.20 | MetaMorfoziS | i want something like this on linux |
| 18:16.28 | koen | I wonder if the romans already had tinymail |
| 18:16.29 | MetaMorfoziS | i see, is there a dia named program, i try out:) |
| 18:22.38 | LetoTo | metamorgozis: www.gliffy.com ? |
| 18:23.05 | LetoTo | once you created it, you can export as SVG or PNG. The SVG can still be editted with inkscape |
| 18:23.14 | MetaMorfoziS | yes i know, cool |
| 18:23.26 | MetaMorfoziS | actually i see dia, its cool except it can't do that lines that on that image... |
| 18:23.43 | MetaMorfoziS | the -------/\----->'s |
| 18:23.43 | MetaMorfoziS | :D |
| 18:24.06 | dho | It does that for you automatically when lines intersect |
| 18:24.38 | LetoTo | i havenbt looked at dia for years. it sucked when i looked at it. i think inkscape is better |
| 18:25.07 | MetaMorfoziS | inkscape is cool |
| 18:25.15 | MetaMorfoziS | but not for this |
| 18:25.15 | MetaMorfoziS | :) |
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| 18:26.01 | don-o | i can appreciate being able to build the platform, but is there a pre-built image for linux that i can download and run? |
| 18:26.56 | don-o | MacNorth: there it is: "mtn: fatal: std::logic_error: roster.cc:1,695: invariant 'I(new_roster == from_right_r)' violated. this is almost certainly a bug in monotone." |
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| 18:28.25 | don-o | maybe an ubuntu user can tar up their /home/moko? |
| 18:29.30 | CoreDump|home | didn't someone here create a vmware image? |
| 18:31.22 | buz | don-o: i have feisty installed and just built it |
| 18:31.25 | buz | but it's huge |
| 18:31.37 | buz | you could however use the prebuilt images in qemu-arm |
| 18:32.14 | buz | mokomakefile has targets to do that |
| 18:33.57 | don-o | i'll try. out of curiosity how big is the image you built |
| 18:34.20 | buz | the image itself is not very big |
| 18:34.24 | buz | the directory however... |
| 18:34.34 | don-o | er yeah ,the whole directory. |
| 18:34.48 | buz | don-o: still running du on it ;) |
| 18:34.54 | don-o | ha |
| 18:34.58 | buz | it's huge by any means |
| 18:35.21 | buz | 8,9GB |
| 18:35.34 | don-o | downloading something huge would still beat wrestling monotone and my slow build computer. |
| 18:35.36 | roh | don-o a complete built moko tree can take 10-16 gbyte, depending how much revisions youve build |
| 18:35.42 | don-o | yeah thats pretty big. |
| 18:36.08 | roh | i can tar up my qemu with built flash if you want |
| 18:36.40 | don-o | roh: sounds good |
| 18:37.10 | koen | buz: IMHERIT += "rm_work" |
| 18:37.26 | koen | keeps it down to 300MB |
| 18:37.43 | buz | you sure it shouldnt be INHERIT? |
| 18:37.52 | koen | yeah |
| 18:37.56 | koen | turing test ;) |
| 18:37.59 | buz | weird spelling |
| 18:38.34 | buz | doesnt really matter |
| 18:38.39 | buz | teh disk currently is big enough |
| 18:39.48 | MetaMorfoziS | in the pdf version |
| 18:39.51 | MetaMorfoziS | i found it's (OmniGraffle Professional 4.1.2)/ModDate |
| 18:41.42 | MetaMorfoziS | it's a non free mac prog. |
| 18:41.45 | MetaMorfoziS | brah! |
| 18:41.55 | roh | don-o will take a while to upload it.. i'm here at eh07 which is 250 geeks sharing a 2mbit sdsl line |
| 18:42.10 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1696 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-appmanager/is-processing.patch: openmoko-appmanager: remove is-processing patch from here, it's now in oe/packages/ipkg |
| 18:42.12 | don-o | roh: k. thx. |
| 18:42.51 | don-o | omigraffle is the shizzle |
| 18:42.57 | don-o | s/omi/omni |
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| 18:57.41 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1697 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/src/ (rfcdate.c rfcdate.h): openmoko-rssreader: Minor change add void as parameter (C++->C is hard) |
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| 18:59.41 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1698 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:59.41 | CIA-16 | openmoko: openmoko-rssreader: Start adding unit-tests for the non gui bits |
| 18:59.41 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Start adding unit tests for the RSS RFC Date class. This mostly |
| 18:59.41 | CIA-16 | openmoko: sets up autofoo to easily add new tests. |
| 19:03.46 | roh | don-o http://yamato.hyte.de/moko/qemu-neo1973.tar.bz2 59731768 bytes |
| 19:03.50 | hrw | connecting neo to debug board is easy |
| 19:04.26 | hrw | connector suxx anyway |
| 19:05.05 | roh | anyways.. i'm doff to the bar for a while ;) |
| 19:05.07 | roh | -d |
| 19:05.47 | MetaMorfoziS | ^ roh that image is runnable with quemu? |
| 19:05.57 | MetaMorfoziS | i don't follow the conversation |
| 19:06.20 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Hardware]] [[Talk:OpenMoko_under_QEMU]] |
| 19:07.23 | hrw | MetaMorfoziS: recent openmoko-qemu can boot neo1973 images |
| 19:08.16 | hrw | check? |
| 19:08.35 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1699 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/ (. data/ po/ src/ tests/): openmoko-rssreader: Ignore autogenerated files |
| 19:08.46 | koen | hrw: how? |
| 19:09.06 | koen | hrw: instead of patches it's another fork in svn.... |
| 19:09.33 | hrw | I see |
| 19:09.34 | hrw | fsck.. andrew keep whole qemu patched dir in svn without patchsets... |
| 19:09.41 | koen | right |
| 19:09.50 | koen | just like every other fork in openmoko svn |
| 19:09.53 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 19:10.28 | CoreDump|home | eventually there will be patches |
| 19:10.36 | koen | and I fear OM developers are too busy with sorting out that mess and push patches upstream the next 6 months |
| 19:11.01 | hrw | koen: andrew is OH guy |
| 19:11.01 | koen | s/ with sorting out that mess/to sort out that mess/ |
| 19:11.16 | koen | hrw: I know |
| 19:11.22 | hrw | and he is pushing his qemu things upstream |
| 19:11.33 | koen | cool |
| 19:11.46 | hrw | he wrote spitz emulation |
| 19:11.48 | koen | so there are patches we can add to qemu-native in OE? |
| 19:11.55 | koen | hrw: I also know that |
| 19:12.13 | hrw | koen: wait a bit and I will push such thing |
| 19:12.21 | hrw | or a bit longer then a bit ;D |
| 19:12.49 | hrw | as I do not know when I will work on updating qemu (and does it will be me or not) |
| 19:14.32 | zecke | hmm I need a faster machine |
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| 19:34.18 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1701 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/ (configure.ac po/LINGUAS po/POTFILES.in): |
| 19:34.18 | CIA-16 | openmoko: openmoko-rssreader: Make i18n work(?!) |
| 19:34.18 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Require intltool and provide an empty LINGUAS file |
| 19:35.08 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1702 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/po/: openmoko-rssreader: ignore autogenerated i18n files |
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| 19:42.30 | cjb | cjb-: hah, another cjb |
| 19:43.10 | koen | zecke: any html widget yet in rssreader? |
| 19:45.16 | zecke | koen: I will wait until the 11th before I decide what to do |
| 19:45.28 | koen | that's after your exams? |
| 19:45.44 | hrw | cu |
| 19:45.46 | zecke | koen: 11th is the GSoC deadline |
| 19:45.55 | koen | ah, right |
| 19:46.20 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.22 | koen | speaking of deadlines |
| 19:46.32 | zecke | koen: when do you start packing? |
| 19:46.44 | koen | zecke: next week |
| 19:47.46 | koen | although I'm at my parents now for easter |
| 19:48.29 | koen | (actually because they live close to the wildlife reserve we're going to visit tomorrow) |
| 19:49.54 | zecke | koen: I think I was there once. I assume there are not too many reserves in the nl |
| 19:50.15 | koen | you were probably close |
| 19:50.28 | koen | this is next to the big reserve :) |
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| 19:50.50 | koen | the small reserve is the former hunting ground for the royal family |
| 19:51.45 | koen | zecke: was it 'de veluwe' in the middle of .nl? |
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| 19:53.11 | zecke | koen: http://www.openembedded.org/~zecke/safari.jpg I don't know where it was, but they sold me this hat |
| 19:53.38 | koen | aha! |
| 19:53.41 | zecke | :) |
| 19:53.47 | koen | "safaripark beekse bergen" |
| 19:53.53 | koen | I should visit that again |
| 19:54.07 | zecke | probably :) |
| 19:55.57 | koen | heh |
| 19:55.58 | koen | http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=229865&cid=18647919 |
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| 19:58.18 | zecke | koen: bergen? |
| 19:58.21 | cjb- | cjb: sometimes I wish that unix account names were allocated by a central global authority. :) |
| 19:59.05 | koen | zecke: http://www.safaripark.nl/home1.aspx |
| 19:59.39 | zecke | koen: I'm already watching the animals |
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| 20:09.10 | koen | zecke: http://sayamindu.randomink.org/openmoko_browser.png |
| 20:09.53 | zecke | koen: using libgtkhtml? |
| 20:10.35 | zecke | koen: GtkWebCore |
| 20:11.33 | koen | gtk-webcore |
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| 20:11.52 | zecke | koen: I know. I see /usr/include/osb and BridgeImpl::windowObjectCleared |
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| 20:14.33 | SrRaven | hmm,will you be able to browse websites the other way too ? (eh not like this | like this - ) |
| 20:18.00 | koen | zecke: you can see it's webcore because of the mandatory scrollbars |
| 20:18.55 | zecke | hehe |
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| 20:31.45 | baze | openmoko doesn't use cairo, does it? |
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| 20:32.42 | koen | baze: it's availabl |
| 20:32.43 | koen | e |
| 20:33.45 | baze | but it's not used as default or what does that mean? |
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| 20:37.58 | cworth | baze: Last I heard, openmoko was using a pre-cairo version of GTK+ (2.6). |
| 20:38.49 | baze | yeah, that's my information aswell |
| 20:39.03 | baze | is it because of the performance or why? |
| 20:39.22 | baze | cairo could be used to create nice ui, imho, that's why i ask |
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| 20:43.55 | cworth | baze: Yes, cairo could be quite helpful. And it may have been for performance reasons originally, but I think with cairo 1.4.x those reasons shouldn't exist. |
| 20:44.15 | cworth | baze: So it's mostly just a matter of people trying it out now and demonstrating it to work well I think. |
| 20:45.14 | koen | cworth: gtk 2.10 is slow in non-cairo areas as well |
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| 20:45.27 | koen | cworth: altough I'm running gtk 2.10.10 in my neo all the time |
| 20:45.45 | koen | cworth: it's quite useable with the surface-cache patch |
| 20:46.35 | cworth | koen: Yeah, there could be other non-cairo-related performance regressions in GTK+ after 2.6. |
| 20:46.36 | SpeedEvil | Why - what about multicore CPU phones? |
| 20:46.42 | roh | koen: thats the plan according what harald told me. use statemachines |
| 20:47.09 | cworth | koen: I did always wonder if cairo was acting as the scapegoat for all GTK+ performance problems. Hopefully that's gone now. :-) |
| 20:47.23 | koen | roh: the surface-cache patch in OE speeds up cairo *a lot*, it just isn't safe for multithreaded apps using cairo |
| 20:47.50 | koen | cworth: right now openmoko is getting hit by floatingpoint image scaling in gtk |
| 20:48.15 | roh | koen: if it's worth a try then we will try it out shurely. |
| 20:48.42 | koen | roh: it's applied by default |
| 20:49.09 | roh | oh |
| 20:50.55 | roh | ?! |
| 20:51.07 | roh | oops.. |
| 20:56.48 | zecke | koen: hmm the rssreader uses threads :) |
| 20:57.33 | koen | zecke: and accessing the same cairo-context in the threads? |
| 20:57.51 | koen | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/cairo/2007-April/010308.html |
| 20:58.02 | zecke | koen: not directly, but I'm sure GtKtreeView is using it indirectly |
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| 21:32.00 | rwhitby | MokoMakefile is now correctly building the exact same image as the core development team. |
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| 21:46.34 | mickey|meeting | rwhitby: kudos, thanks! |
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| 21:55.34 | MacNorth | rwhitby: i think package sjf2410-linux-native-20060807-r1_0 is broken for INHERIT += "rm_work" |
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| 21:58.31 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1703 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/ (src/rfcdate.c tests/date_test.c): openmoko-rssreader: Add more tests and besides the memory leaks of Glib we are doing fine |
| 21:59.04 | MacNorth | http://pastebin.ca/428881 : do_rm_work happens before do_deploy |
| 22:03.44 | zecke | MacNorth: thank you :) |
| 22:04.01 | MacNorth | np :) |
| 22:05.09 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1704 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-rssreader/: openmoko-rssreader: Ignore more i18n autogenerated files |
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| 22:44.32 | rwhitby | zecke: |
| 22:44.33 | rwhitby | | aclocal:configure.ac:37: warning: macro `AM_PATH_CHECK' not found in library |
| 22:44.34 | rwhitby | | autoreconf: running: /home/moko/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/autoconf --include=/home/moko/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/share/aclocal-1.9 --include=/home/moko/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/share/aclocal --force --warnings=cross |
| 22:44.34 | rwhitby | | configure.ac:37: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_CHECK |
| 22:44.37 | rwhitby | (RHEL4) |
| 22:45.00 | rwhitby | automake (GNU automake) 1.9.2 |
| 22:45.10 | zecke | rwhitby: yeah stupid me :) |
| 22:46.01 | zecke | rwhitby: luckily dropbear is not fetchable atm |
| 22:46.59 | zecke | hmm I wonder why bug reporting is not working ATM |
| 22:47.45 | zecke | ah because the bug was already filed :) |
| 22:48.41 | zecke | rwhitby: good morning and can you do me a favor? |
| 22:52.36 | rwhitby | zecke: sure, but need to do an easter egg hunt with the kids first. |
| 22:52.57 | zecke | sure |
| 22:56.54 | zecke | rwhitby: http://rafb.net/p/x49VGn55.html check if that magically fixes the issue |
| 22:58.19 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] |
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| 23:13.06 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1705 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-mainmenu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): openmoko-panel-mainmenu: add enabling code for action button events |
| 23:14.10 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1706 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/devel/qmake/openmoko-include.pro: qmake: define some more vars |
| 23:14.30 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1707 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/TODO: openmoko-libs: remove completed stuff from TODO |
| 23:14.51 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1708 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/devel/scripts/launch-xoo: devel/scripts: launch more applets |
| 23:15.52 | mickey|zzZZzz | g'night |
| 23:15.58 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: night |
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| 23:41.54 | don-o | roh: thanks for the image. |
| 23:42.09 | don-o | roh: whats the command line to start qemu using that image? |
| 23:43.23 | roh | oeh.. dunno mompls |
| 23:44.49 | roh | uuh.. i tested that with mokomakefile |
| 23:45.17 | don-o | roh: the end of flash.sh has some stuff about how to start qemu |
| 23:46.29 | roh | don-o i just tar-ed /home/roh/svn/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973 |
| 23:46.57 | roh | arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm \ |
| 23:46.57 | roh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.57 | roh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.58 | roh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.15 | roh | thats what mokomakefile make run-qemu does |
| 23:47.44 | roh | there are propably some symlinks in place for that |
| 23:48.42 | don-o | k. im thinking qemu was also a special build. |
| 23:49.00 | roh | i built the qemu on a slightly updated ubuntu dapper |
| 23:49.00 | don-o | the machine specification, -M neo, says neo is not in the supported machine list |
| 23:49.14 | roh | don-o with your or my build? |
| 23:49.27 | don-o | dpkg install of qemu |
| 23:49.34 | zecke | lol |
| 23:49.37 | roh | lol |
| 23:49.42 | don-o | roh oh i see qemu is also in your tarball :) |
| 23:50.01 | roh | don-o you need to start the qemu in the tarball. it is patched with wthe source also included |
| 23:50.01 | rwhitby | zecke: I tried putting that file in the workdir/m4 subdir, then run bitbake -c configure, but that didn't help. |
| 23:50.15 | roh | it nearly completely emulates the real hardware of the moko |
| 23:50.25 | roh | hi rwhitby |
| 23:50.30 | rwhitby | hi |
| 23:50.31 | zecke | rwhitby: that is okay (it was a placebo) |
| 23:51.06 | zecke | rwhitby: I try to remember the AC_ option to specify the m4 include dir |
| 23:51.13 | roh | rwhitby mokomakefile does not build (or only copy, not 100% shure due to clean) dyngen into the right dir |
| 23:51.26 | rwhitby | roh: it does for me |
| 23:51.29 | roh | rwhitby so make qemu fails there |
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| 23:51.40 | rwhitby | roh: full pastebin please, cause it works here |
| 23:51.58 | rwhitby | (on Debian Etch and RHEL4) |
| 23:51.59 | don-o | roh its booting! |
| 23:52.00 | shumz | hay evry1 |
| 23:52.19 | roh | will do as soon as i can regenerate the situation. i just copied it to the path where it expected it and it worked |
| 23:52.31 | roh | don-o horay! |
| 23:52.34 | shumz | just wondering when the device will be shipping to the UK, cant w8 to get me hands on one |
| 23:52.52 | rwhitby | roh: make sure that the trunk/src/host/qemu-1973 is clean (i.e. you didn't configure or build in there) - mokomakefile builds under build/qemu |
| 23:52.52 | roh | don-o space and return are swaped, contrary to what the docs say (at least for me) |
| 23:52.56 | SpeedEvil | It is delayed by extra days every time you use text speak on IRC. |
| 23:53.14 | SpeedEvil | shumz: A week or two is the current best guess. |
| 23:53.25 | SpeedEvil | Maybe three. |
| 23:53.28 | rwhitby | roh: latest build docs are correct as far as space and return goes |
| 23:53.29 | SpeedEvil | Hopefully not four. |
| 23:53.30 | don-o | roh: i have to hit space to execute "boot". |
| 23:53.31 | roh | rwhitby ah.. i built it before manually (as described in the wiki at that time) before there was support for it in mokomakefile |
| 23:53.33 | zecke | rwhitby: place ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-Im4" in the autogen.sh |
| 23:53.37 | shumz | lol speed devil |
| 23:53.49 | roh | don-o yes. should be return says the docs |
| 23:53.55 | shumz | i seroiusly feel like runnig down there and grabbing one |
| 23:53.55 | roh | but its swaped |
| 23:54.00 | don-o | roh: yeah thta felt unintutitve |
| 23:54.13 | rwhitby | roh: remove trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973, svn up, rebuild with mokomakefile |
| 23:54.14 | shumz | speedDevil ill order a few |
| 23:54.32 | zecke | rwhitby: help me, is RHEL4 more outdated than debian stable? |
| 23:54.47 | rwhitby | roh: the latest flash.sh script prints the correct mappings for space and return |
| 23:54.53 | roh | rwhitby will do as soon as sober again.Ã.. i'm sitting in the bar at a hacker-meet-and-greet in hamburg with a drink in my left hand |
| 23:55.14 | shumz | SpeedDevil any way i can get notofied on its release? |
| 23:55.15 | aloril | shumz: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 23:55.27 | roh | rwhitby ;) fixed in the docs instead the source |
| 23:55.32 | rwhitby | shumz: subcribe to the announce list |
| 23:56.08 | shumz | cheers, i think this device is kinda cheap with all its capabilities nice one dudes |
| 23:57.08 | rwhitby | zecke: dunno about relative outdatedness between RHEL4 and Debian Sarge. |
| 23:57.27 | rwhitby | zecke: but it failed the same way on Debian Etch. |
| 23:57.56 | rwhitby | zecke: sorry, I'm out of time to debug this now - Easter day stuff |
| 23:58.00 | zecke | rwhitby: right, the dependency on check should be optional |
| 23:58.12 | zecke | rwhitby: don't worry, I will remove check on my machine and check it |
| 23:59.44 | roh | btw: a lot of openwrt guys would like to buy the phone asap and are wanting to build support in their buildsystem .. so eventually we get a second buildsys for free testing our patches |
