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| 01:54.00 | jaebird | If the phone cannot be implanted in my head...it is doomed! |
| 01:54.22 | jaebird | ~yeah right |
| 01:54.35 | apt | You don't believe me? You don't fucking believe me?! BELIEVE, BIATCH! |
| 01:55.05 | jaebird | apt: nice |
| 01:55.07 | apt | somebody said nice was prime example of SuperJuan, or a good term for GNOME a derogatory term meaning bland, boring, feeble, or just crap. Example: That's a nice haircut. a city in france, or a program that will run a program with a modified scheduling priority (from -20 to 19, where 19 is the lowest). |
| 01:56.16 | xorAxAx | apt: nice is also the openmoko phone |
| 01:56.18 | apt | ACTION lowers is also the openmoko phone's priority |
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| 10:37.06 | greentux | morning doomed koen ;) |
| 10:37.20 | koen | hey greentux :) |
| 10:37.41 | greentux | hope You didnt dream of doomed phones... |
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| 10:44.23 | koen | buz: you didn't :) |
| 10:44.33 | koen | the phone is doomed without a v8 engine |
| 10:44.36 | koen | and cupholders |
| 10:44.39 | koen | dooooooooooooooooomed |
| 10:46.23 | buz | oh yes |
| 10:46.24 | buz | of course |
| 10:48.04 | buz | i still wonder if i should buy it ;) |
| 10:48.15 | buz | i'd be mighty pissed if a wifi version were to come in march or april |
| 10:49.25 | koen | I really laughed at the "FIC is evil because they posted a website" comment |
| 10:49.49 | jannic | buz: no you'll laught about the people whose battery lifetime is below 1h :) |
| 10:50.21 | koen | ah right, it's an asian phone |
| 10:50.35 | koen | touchscreen + flashy games = success |
| 10:50.45 | jannic | koen: so the battery lifetime would be <1h even without wifi? |
| 10:50.55 | koen | probably |
| 10:51.12 | koen | if it were designed to be actually useable it would have had a keypad |
| 10:51.47 | jannic | koen: you can attach an usb keyboard |
| 10:55.09 | buz | jannic: there are |
| 10:55.14 | buz | at prices you wont buy them |
| 10:55.45 | buz | not entirely sure what a 3.6v usb battery does help with anyway |
| 10:55.58 | buz | a battery powered usb stick would be kinda handy |
| 10:56.04 | buz | wait a minute |
| 10:56.08 | buz | my ipod has a battery |
| 10:56.11 | buz | mhhhhhh |
| 10:56.37 | buz | i know the hd ipod can run from unpowered ports |
| 10:56.45 | buz | maybe the shuffle can do so too |
| 10:57.02 | buz | or those cheap 2gb usb stick cum mp3 player |
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| 11:13.03 | jannic | buz: I thought about a usb connected battery that powers the phone :) |
| 11:13.22 | buz | might work |
| 11:14.20 | jannic | but I wasn't too serious |
| 11:27.18 | buz | thats generally a sign that the fireworks they use just isnt powerful enough |
| 11:28.04 | koen | no, they are just really lucky |
| 11:28.19 | koen | the stuff they use would blow off a large part of my hand |
| 11:28.29 | buz | well more blackpowder = even more luck needed |
| 11:28.45 | buz | besides you can launch the stuff with one hand |
| 11:28.49 | buz | so blowing off hands aint enough |
| 11:29.07 | koen | I never understood what's so cool about the stuff that goes 'boom' |
| 11:29.13 | buz | oh i do |
| 11:29.28 | buz | it plays on the same level as blinken lights |
| 11:29.35 | buz | we dont really know why it's cool but it is |
| 11:48.14 | koen | and more importantly, if the it will be automagically geotagged |
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| 11:50.20 | buz | that should be simple enough |
| 11:50.53 | buz | if v2 gets cam and wifi i think i wait for it |
| 12:02.54 | yacc | koen: And you complain about my whining, when you whine about the V2 ;) |
| 12:04.29 | yacc | buz: Do you know that you need wifi? Wifi seems such a bother even on the Nokia, and it does have a basically sensible way to deal with multiple routes to the internet. |
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| 12:21.17 | thseiler | mighty idea, let it have a small usb mini connector on a short cable to plug into the phone and a second ordinary USB A host connector in the battery case which data lines are connected to the mini connector |
| 12:22.11 | thseiler | that way it can power the neo, or any other USB equipment like ipods, etc... and it can even allow the neo to be usb host for these devices and just deliver the power... |
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| 13:14.47 | buz | yacc: i just want wifi |
| 13:14.51 | buz | surfing on the couch and stuff like that |
| 13:15.07 | greentux | buy a 770 |
| 13:15.15 | buz | thats too big to take to uni etc |
| 13:15.22 | buz | and because of the prices for gprs, i wont have that active ever anyway |
| 13:15.59 | greentux | you will not find the all in one device :) |
| 13:17.13 | greentux | there are no flat rates in swiss? |
| 13:17.25 | buz | well there's 30E 2gb packages |
| 13:17.36 | buz | i might get a 10? 500mb package |
| 13:17.41 | buz | but there are none of those |
| 13:18.58 | greentux | ok we have flat rates here in germany... |
| 13:19.09 | buz | well they call the 2gb things flatrates |
| 13:19.21 | buz | but for 30? i want REAL flatrate |
| 13:19.47 | greentux | 25 euro flat |
| 13:19.53 | buz | yeah i might pay that |
| 13:20.07 | greentux | you dont live at basel? :) |
| 13:20.09 | buz | would still be kinda hard to justify it tho |
| 13:20.12 | greentux | I woked there |
| 13:21.36 | buz | near zurich |
| 13:21.50 | buz | (on a global scale, thats still near basel ;) |
| 13:24.38 | greentux | ok You have to wait... |
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| 15:45.18 | yacc | buz: As I've noticed, for email/surfing/chatting 250MB a month seems plenty. At least at (E)GPRS speeds. |
| 15:46.13 | yacc | buz: I can understand you quite well, because my own insistance on a flatrate led me a year ago to a Sidekick (being the only device with a flat rate) ;) |
| 15:47.25 | mjr | yeah, 250M is a lot if you're not a very heavy user |
| 15:47.52 | mjr | I used to have a 100M plan and it was well and good for most of the time, though I did have to watch it a bit sometimes which was inconvenient |
| 15:48.08 | mjr | (now I have a cheaper flat rate provider ;] ) |
| 15:51.25 | koen | yacc: no sim-only subscribtions available? |
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| 16:00.12 | yacc | mjr: I'm a heavy user. But between the combination of GPRS/EDGE speeds, the limits of a handheld device, one uses what one needs and not more. |
| 16:00.25 | yacc | mjr: UMTS with a laptop is quite a different beast ;) |
| 16:02.05 | mjr | indeed I haven't had to look out much with the phone itself, but only when I used it for laptop connectivity |
| 16:02.21 | yacc | koen: Well, simcard only would be no use, as the Sidekicks use not the usual Internet APN => it's a completly closed system, and the flatrate applied only to usage with a Sidekick. |
| 16:03.25 | mjr | (or desktop, for that matter, but that was only when we moved and getting ADSL took its time) |
| 16:04.05 | yacc | Oh, the latency additionally kills any fun in working with the mobile "Internet" ;) |
| 16:04.53 | mjr | well, I'm less picky about that than most |
| 16:05.19 | mjr | It does bother me, sure, but not that much. Better to have _some_ connectivity than none. |
| 16:06.16 | koen | ssh -C is somewhat useable with edge |
| 16:06.22 | koen | it's horrid with gprs |
| 16:08.11 | mjr | see, your problem is that you've standards |
| 16:08.31 | mjr | (or that you mistype a lot, or both ;) |
| 16:08.39 | koen | :) |
| 16:14.47 | yacc | koen: GPRS and EDGE have the same miserable latency :( |
| 16:15.04 | yacc | mjr: Or that one needs to access the boxes via a VPN. |
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| 17:07.29 | JayeAeotiv | hello |
| 17:12.19 | JayeAeotiv | Anyone know when the FIC phone is going to be released and how to get one? |
| 17:12.43 | koen | see topic :) |
| 17:14.13 | JayeAeotiv | That's not very descriptive. January is tomorrow. |
| 17:14.43 | xorAxAx | of course it means that on 01-31 you will be able to input your preorder |
| 17:17.57 | koen | a carefull reader will notice that this channel is about the software |
| 17:18.06 | koen | and hence a 'ETA' is about the software |
| 17:21.55 | Stephmw | koen: optimism can be such a debilitating affliction :) |
| 17:22.24 | Stephmw | JayeAeotiv: January 2007 is as detailed as anyone save for FIC knows atm |
| 17:22.52 | Stephmw | JayeAeotiv: could be worse - could have said Q1 or even 1H |
| 17:23.01 | JayeAeotiv | yeah |
| 17:23.26 | Stephmw | or as TT does these days... RSN |
| 17:23.32 | JayeAeotiv | Oh well, I'll figure it out. |
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| 18:35.38 | *** topic/#openmoko by mickeyl -> OpenMoko Developer Lounge | http://www.openmoko.com | http://lists.openmoko.org | ETA: January 2007 | Direct-Sale World Wide | No Preorders yet |
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| 23:29.40 | Rac0r | Happy 2007 |
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| 23:38.04 | buz | it0s january, so where can i order? |
| 23:38.05 | buz | SCNR |
| 23:38.17 | koen | heh |
| 23:38.19 | buz | happy new year everybody |
| 23:38.44 | koen | buz: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/000960.html :) |
| 23:38.47 | koen | happy new year all |
| 23:39.08 | buz | damn i'm late |
| 23:39.11 | buz | ah well |
| 23:39.17 | buz | at least the champagne was very good this year |
| 23:39.42 | buz | you beat me by 8 fucking minutes |
| 23:40.07 | koen | :D |
| 23:40.45 | rwhitby | heh - 10am here, just waking up |
| 23:41.11 | buz | 31st or 1st? |
| 23:41.16 | rwhitby | 1st |
| 23:41.27 | koen | rwhitby is cheating |
| 23:41.28 | buz | no headache? |
| 23:41.46 | rwhitby | small headache - not too bad |
| 23:42.00 | rwhitby | time to take the kids to the beach. |
| 23:42.22 | buz | not sure i envy or pity you |
| 23:42.47 | buz | beach good |
| 23:42.53 | buz | kids i dont like |
| 23:45.59 | buz | koen: now its the big boys' fireworks |
| 23:46.04 | buz | which is even worse, anyway |
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