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| 08:29.00 | mickeyl | moinmoin |
| 08:29.11 | mickeyl | mrmoku: i'll work on the sharing plugin today |
| 08:35.53 | mrmoku | moin mickeyl, cool |
| 08:36.33 | mrmoku | TAsn: yeah, found it in eina |
| 08:42.48 | mickeyl | hmm... what's that: http://dev.3v1n0.net/gitweb/cornucopia.git/commit/b2f9bb696f80c5f2cf3edf155927b371acad7b96 |
| 08:42.54 | mickeyl | fsopimd... |
| 08:44.18 | mickeyl | hmm... diving into libnl again and realizing why it's so cumbersome |
| 08:44.25 | mickeyl | it's so underdocumented, it hurts |
| 08:50.36 | mrmoku | heh |
| 08:51.21 | mrmoku | trevinho working on fsopimd... interesting |
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| 09:04.55 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 09:05.05 | mickeyl | discovers getifaddrs(3) |
| 09:08.33 | mickeyl | in earlier times we used ioctls to configure the network, may someone remind me why the hotness went to netlink sockets instead? |
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| 09:44.16 | PaulFertser | mickeyl: i think ioctls are not flexible and are hard to use (e.g. for passing an array of structs) comparing to netlink. |
| 09:44.29 | PaulFertser | And are harder to extend etc. |
| 09:45.49 | PaulFertser | It's like you'd be asking why use dbus when there's shared memory and semaphores ;) |
| 09:47.47 | CIA-82 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r6dd8ccb009ac 10/misc/ (README tests/Makefile.am tests/testlinux.vala): misc: add file for testing various aspects of linux.vapi |
| 09:47.59 | mickeyl | PaulFertser: :) |
| 09:48.01 | mickeyl | ok, thanks |
| 09:48.04 | mickeyl | i understand that |
| 09:48.27 | mickeyl | sysv ipc... oh the good times ;) |
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| 10:26.11 | mickeyl | hi JaMa|Wrk |
| 10:28.04 | JaMa|Wrk | hi mickeyl |
| 10:28.21 | mickeyl | working on a saturday? |
| 10:28.40 | JaMa|Wrk | yeah :/ |
| 10:28.58 | JaMa|Wrk | working weekends for last 3 months or so.. |
| 10:29.06 | mickeyl | oh, bummer |
| 10:31.31 | JaMa|Wrk | indeed, at least I don't have to stay 8hours :) |
| 10:31.42 | JaMa|Wrk | 4-6hours/day suits me much more |
| 10:32.35 | mickeyl | heh, right |
| 10:32.44 | mickeyl | same here |
| 10:33.24 | CIA-82 | SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r6c8163502391 10/src/view/contact-list-common.c: contact-list-common: disable multiselect for now |
| 10:33.28 | CIA-82 | SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rded3da7cec12 10/src/view/contact-list-view.c: contact-list-view: make the ctxpopup work correctly |
| 10:35.09 | CIA-82 | SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r0bfd200220a5 10/ (1548 files in 71 dirs): system upgrade |
| 10:43.54 | CIA-82 | SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r6c8163502391 10/src/view/contact-list-common.c: contact-list-common: disable multiselect for now |
| 10:43.58 | CIA-82 | SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07libphone-ui-shr * rbd9bc19995ba 10/src/view/quick-settings-view.c: quick-settings-view: adapt to new hoversel API |
| 10:44.02 | CIA-82 | SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07libphone-ui-shr * rbf10534dbf79 10/src/view/ (phone-log-view.c quick-settings-view.c): adapt to ELM toolbar API change |
| 10:44.02 | CIA-82 | SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rded3da7cec12 10/src/view/contact-list-view.c: contact-list-view: make the ctxpopup work correctly |
| 10:44.03 | CIA-82 | SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07libphone-ui-shr * r82b017ddd11b 10/src/util/ (ui-utils-contacts.c ui-utils.c): adapt to elm_list API changes from r66796 |
| 10:50.17 | JaMa|Wrk | btw 017 feed still building |
| 10:50.25 | JaMa|Wrk | mrmoku: do you want this bumped fro 017? ^ |
| 10:51.39 | mrmoku | JaMa|Wrk: would be nice |
| 10:51.43 | mrmoku | JaMa|Wrk: EFL bump ahead? |
| 10:52.01 | mrmoku | or is that in some branch of yours? |
| 10:52.12 | JaMa|Wrk | mrmoku: it's in my branch, but fwiw I promised no EFL bump before release |
| 10:52.25 | JaMa|Wrk | mrmoku: yes those commits are only in efl branch of libphone-ui-shr |
| 10:52.34 | mrmoku | ok :) |
| 10:52.35 | JaMa|Wrk | and jansa/test branches in OE |
| 10:52.48 | mrmoku | great :) |
| 10:53.01 | mrmoku | will fix the UI dialogs next |
| 10:53.33 | mrmoku | JaMa|Wrk: btw. what is aclocal-copy for and why do I have to rm -rf it manually for libphone-ui-shr local builds? any idea? |
| 10:53.35 | JaMa|Wrk | ah problem with bump is that images are already created for some machines :/ |
| 10:53.46 | mrmoku | nah, tehn for the next staging |
| 10:53.59 | JaMa|Wrk | qt was bumped again so still building feeds :/ |
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| 10:54.30 | JaMa|Wrk | mrmoku: rm -rf to make your local dir clean or between each build? |
| 10:54.44 | mrmoku | JaMa|Wrk: between each build :/ |
| 10:55.03 | mrmoku | if I forget I get some strange MKINSTALLDIRS error |
| 10:55.15 | JaMa|Wrk | during do_install right? |
| 10:55.17 | mrmoku | yup |
| 10:55.29 | JaMa|Wrk | seen it here too, not sure about proper fix |
| 10:55.34 | mrmoku | ok |
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| 17:37.29 | mrmoku | TAsn: gah, this elm stuff is driving me mad |
| 17:38.16 | mrmoku | TAsn: trying for some hour now to find out why our inwin dialogs are mostly sized and positioned wrong :/ |
| 17:43.14 | PaulFertser | Random nice pic: http://cs303909.vkontakte.ru/u3803862/46423668/x_d4be5066.jpg |
| 17:45.29 | angelox|laptop | does not get it :( |
| 17:47.07 | PaulFertser | angelox|laptop: Led Zeppelin rocks, and knowing how to play some of their songs helps with other important matters too :) |
| 17:47.45 | pespin | hahah good one |
| 17:48.13 | angelox|laptop | PaulFertser: ah ok, understood, i didn't get it because the actual cultural condition of music in Brazil. You have no idea of the shit it is now |
| 17:48.20 | pespin | I'd start learning some Led Zepelin song then ;) |
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| 17:49.06 | PaulFertser | pespin: just do not play Black Dog to a big-legged woman ;) |
| 17:49.18 | pespin | angelox|laptop, like the song ai se eu te pego? lol |
| 17:49.53 | pespin | I'm actually discovering nice music from brazil these days, mostly bossa nova like |
| 17:49.59 | angelox|laptop | pespin: yeah, that is bad stuff, but not so bad like the 'Rio Funk' |
| 17:50.13 | angelox|laptop | pespin: bossa nova and mpb are old musical style that were REALLY GREAT |
| 17:50.23 | pespin | PaulFertser, I'll listen to it first hehe |
| 17:50.36 | pespin | mpb? |
| 17:50.42 | PaulFertser | pespin: read the lyrics too. Truly shocking ;) |
| 17:51.06 | angelox|laptop | PaulFertser: I know a lot of music from Led Zeppelin, Black Dog hard to play lol |
| 17:51.15 | pespin | I'm trying to lern a bit of bossa nova these days, but the harmony is quite complex :) |
| 17:51.36 | angelox|laptop | pespin: MPB = Musica Popular Brasileira, sth like: Brazillian Popular Music ;D |
| 17:52.07 | angelox|laptop | pespin: of course, a lot more hard than rock ;) |
| 17:52.08 | pespin | yep, I understand portguese more a less :) (I speak catalan and spanish which are similar) |
| 17:53.21 | angelox|laptop | yes, there are some words in Portuguese that are almost same in English, that made easier to learn english for me |
| 17:54.22 | angelox|laptop | e.g.: Film - Filme ; Personal - Pessoal; Photo - Foto |
| 17:54.29 | angelox|laptop | and a lot more i don't remember :D |
| 17:55.28 | TAsn | mrmoku, for some reason, lately people started doing irresponsible changes and breaking stuff. :( |
| 17:55.31 | TAsn | mrmoku, I'm really sorry. |
| 17:55.38 | TAsn | mrmoku, please send a mail to edevel and I'll back you up. |
| 17:55.47 | TAsn | my colleague finished writing a test suite |
| 17:55.48 | TAsn | hopefully |
| 17:55.53 | TAsn | we'll start using it |
| 17:55.57 | pespin | TAsn, stop apoligizing and fix genlist! :P |
| 17:56.02 | TAsn | genlist? |
| 17:56.29 | pespin | yeah, just read on #edevelop what me and other people are saying since about 3 days ago :) |
| 17:57.25 | PaulFertser | pespin: lol, that was a nice one! |
| 17:57.29 | PaulFertser | TAsn: hey hey :) |
| 17:57.56 | TAsn | PaulFertser, long time. ;P |
| 17:58.05 | TAsn | PaulFertser, sup? |
| 17:58.11 | PaulFertser | TAsn: how's it going, enjoying your new job? ;) |
| 17:58.38 | TAsn | pespin, bah, it's broken in many ways, not sure which break you are referring to. :P |
| 17:58.52 | TAsn | PaulFertser, old job, I'm there for more than 1.5 years now. :) |
| 17:59.18 | pespin | TAsn, using inserted_sort after having called genlist_item_del() before, makes my app segfault |
| 17:59.24 | PaulFertser | TAsn: i'm damn fine, thanks. Just not much time on FR. Though i'm still not that fancy about FSO, probably that's a better explanation. |
| 17:59.45 | TAsn | pespin, omg, I'm sorrry to hear. :* |
| 17:59.57 | pespin | and I pray for having naviframe fixed before apocalypse day :P |
| 18:00.01 | PaulFertser | TAsn: are you hacking on E for 1.5 years already? Man, the time is mad fast sometimes. |
| 18:00.09 | PaulFertser | Fluent even |
| 18:00.13 | TAsn | I'm hacking on e for more than that even |
| 18:00.18 | TAsn | I'm doing it as a job |
| 18:00.21 | TAsn | for 1.5 years |
| 18:00.22 | TAsn | :) |
| 18:01.05 | TAsn | PaulFertser, ah, so whato do you do nowadays? (if not fr) |
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| 18:03.02 | TAsn | btw, heads up: I'm out in 5-7 minutes. :) |
| 18:03.39 | PaulFertser | TAsn: i'm still using FR as a daily phone though. Not actively involved in anything, though i gained quite some OpenWrt experience, hacking on barebox+kernel+OpenWrt on i.MX at work, and stm32 etc. |
| 18:04.40 | TAsn | openwrt is awesome, just bought my first supported router a couple of months ago and installed tomato on it |
| 18:04.42 | TAsn | it really changed my life |
| 18:04.43 | TAsn | :) |
| 18:04.52 | TAsn | PaulFertser, what's barebox? |
| 18:05.42 | PaulFertser | TAsn: u-boot reimplemented from scratch by passionate Linux kernel devs :) |
| 18:06.15 | TAsn | isn't that's exactly what the other thing was? (forgot the other one's name) |
| 18:07.46 | TAsn | ok sry, gtg. |
| 18:07.56 | TAsn | concert |
| 18:07.59 | TAsn | later |
| 18:08.00 | PaulFertser | TAsn: enjoy! |
| 18:08.10 | TAsn | thanks. |
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| 20:10.57 | rah | nschle85: pongping |
| 20:16.42 | nschle85|2 | rah: pong pong ping :-) |
| 20:16.56 | rah | :-) |
| 20:17.02 | rah | nschle85: hello :-) |
| 20:17.09 | rah | nschle85: what was it you wanted me for? |
| 20:17.29 | mrmoku | likes playing table-tennis too :) |
| 20:17.54 | nschle85|2 | rah: http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR%20quickly |
| 20:18.15 | rah | nschle85|2: aye, that was me |
| 20:18.52 | nschle85|2 | the idea to make a simplier description is very good but... |
| 20:19.22 | pespin | mrmoku, hey, did you start the work to move the dbus vapis from telepathy to a new lib? |
| 20:19.33 | mrmoku | pespin: hah, no |
| 20:19.38 | pespin | I was just thinking it would be nice to have once we start doing the fso telepathy daemon |
| 20:19.48 | mrmoku | pespin: tp works are delayed way after release |
| 20:19.55 | nschle85|2 | i think we should delete outdated and wrong information instead of creating new wiki pages |
| 20:20.08 | pespin | mrmoku, ok, seems fair :) |
| 20:20.17 | mrmoku | pespin: but feel free to start something :-) |
| 20:20.28 | pespin | I may once I finish exams the 18th |
| 20:20.37 | pespin | then I have holidays till 12th feb I think hehe |
| 20:20.42 | mrmoku | gah, everybody busy doing exams ;) |
| 20:20.44 | nschle85|2 | rah: you page contains new information, like: shr from scratch :-) |
| 20:20.58 | pespin | today it's pub time though hehe |
| 20:21.05 | mrmoku | hah |
| 20:21.06 | nschle85|2 | rah: but your description is not the fastest and is incomplete |
| 20:21.24 | rah | nschle85|2: yes, I realise the other instructions should be cleaned |
| 20:22.02 | nschle85|2 | rah: so can i merge your information in the shr build page ? |
| 20:22.09 | rah | nschle85|2: I just wanted to get up my instructions on non-chroot building so they didn't get lost |
| 20:22.11 | pespin | I was thinking on doing the move while i wait for the efl fixes, as I'm having lots of weird bugs with etalk and i don't want to continue adding things till I get those fixed |
| 20:22.12 | nschle85|2 | rah: and delete your page ? |
| 20:22.28 | rah | nschle85|2: yes, I'm happy if the information is merged with the normal build page, you can delete mine |
| 20:22.31 | rah | oops |
| 20:22.32 | nschle85|2 | rah: the other page is not only chroot |
| 20:22.59 | nschle85|2 | i am not using chroot and i update the other page |
| 20:23.06 | rah | ok |
| 20:23.14 | nschle85|2 | rah: thank you :-) |
| 20:23.17 | rah | nschle85|2: are there faster and more complete instructions for non-chroot building? :-) |
| 20:23.34 | pespin | let's see if I have time to finish updating the eflvala bindings |
| 20:23.46 | nschle85|2 | rah: yes :-) |
| 20:24.05 | nschle85|2 | but they are hidden between the other lines :-) |
| 20:24.06 | pespin | at least elementary.vapi.. I don't think I'm updating other ones in the nearly future, too much work. Only on request |
| 20:24.09 | rah | hah |
| 20:24.11 | rah | ok :-) |
| 20:24.20 | nschle85|2 | rah: i am using the Makefile way |
| 20:24.26 | rah | I see |
| 20:24.40 | pespin | mrmoku, was you the one who requsted vapi files to write E modules? |
| 20:24.49 | rah | umm |
| 20:25.06 | rah | nschle85|2: what Makefile, one you've written? |
| 20:25.32 | nschle85|2 | no the one JaMa is developing |
| 20:25.55 | nschle85|2 | http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR#Beforebeginning |
| 20:27.17 | rah | you're using that but not setting up a chroot? |
| 20:27.44 | nschle85|2 | yes |
| 20:28.24 | nschle85|2 | i never used chroot |
| 20:29.04 | rah | hmm |
| 20:29.17 | rah | well, I wanted to avoid the Makefile |
| 20:29.32 | nschle85|2 | rah: you can avoud |
| 20:29.33 | rah | on account of updates doing git reset --hard |
| 20:30.10 | nschle85|2 | rah: thats i also do not like, but for inital setup its nice |
| 20:30.22 | nschle85|2 | rah: so we should change the Makefile |
| 20:31.17 | mrmoku | pespin: yeah, was talking about that |
| 20:31.36 | mrmoku | pespin: no current need right now though |
| 20:31.43 | mrmoku | just would be nice if that were possible |
| 20:31.46 | pespin | I'll add those once I finish with elementary then |
| 20:31.52 | mrmoku | good :) |
| 20:32.00 | mrmoku | ahh, no I remember |
| 20:32.05 | mrmoku | was telepathy related too |
| 20:32.07 | nschle85|2 | rah: but anyway, your idea to have a short introduction how to build shr for newcomers i support |
| 20:32.14 | mrmoku | to have a gadget for my voip app |
| 20:32.27 | mrmoku | but as that's delayed into somewhere in the future... |
| 20:32.28 | rah | nschle85|2: I'm not sure I agree with just changing the Makefile |
| 20:32.30 | mrmoku | take your time :-) |
| 20:32.34 | pespin | ok :) |
| 20:32.51 | nschle85|2 | rah: why ? |
| 20:33.05 | rah | nschle85|2: as it is, I would like to have a set of instructions for setting up an shr-core build |
| 20:33.08 | pespin | btw, autosuspend is not working by default, I guess that's wrong behaviour |
| 20:33.25 | rah | nschle85|2: I have that in the script (it's essentially just a shell script) I put on the wiki |
| 20:33.40 | rah | nschle85|2: you're arguing to replace that with an updated Makefile |
| 20:34.23 | rah | nschle85|2: if that short, simple script was converted to a Makefile, it would be nothing like the existing Makefile |
| 20:34.43 | rah | nschle85|2: in which case, I cannot see the value of making it into a Makefile instead of just a script |
| 20:36.02 | nschle85|2 | rah: no, there is a misunderstanding |
| 20:36.40 | nschle85|2 | rah: the makefile does already what you are doing describing in wiki |
| 20:37.12 | nschle85|2 | rah: but make update always overwrites local changes, this is what i wanted to have changed |
| 20:38.46 | rah | nschle85|2: it does more than what is in the wiki; it creates stamp files |
| 20:39.09 | rah | nschle85|2: it's also significantly more complex |
| 20:39.27 | nschle85|2 | what are stamp files for ? |
| 20:40.03 | rah | eg: |
| 20:40.06 | rah | setup-openembedded openembedded/.git/config: |
| 20:40.07 | rah | ... |
| 20:40.15 | rah | touch openembedded/.git/config |
| 20:42.04 | nschle85|2 | rah: cannot find touch... in your wiki page |
| 20:42.46 | rah | nschle85|2: misunderstanding here; the Makefile does more than what's in my wiki page; the Makefile creates stamp files |
| 20:43.25 | nschle85|2 | rah: is that bad ? i never cared (or now) about |
| 20:43.44 | rah | nschle85|2: I don't like it |
| 20:43.51 | nschle85|2 | why ? |
| 20:44.22 | rah | it's messy and seems to be unnecessary |
| 20:44.33 | rah | nschle85|2: in fact, I dislike it so much that I stopped using the Makefile and created a wiki page containing instructions on how to build shr-core without it :-) |
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| 20:48.56 | rah | nschle85|2: the Makefile will not work properly unless you use it from the start, and it controls your build tree (ie, unless it scatters its stamp files everywhere) |
| 20:49.00 | rah | I don't like that |
| 20:53.30 | nschle85|2 | rah: so you should talk to JaMa what can be improved |
| 20:53.56 | nschle85|2 | rah: are yiu subsribed to shr-devel ML ? |
| 20:54.05 | rah | nschle85|2: I am, yes |
| 20:54.06 | nschle85|2 | you |
| 20:54.25 | nschle85|2 | have you got my mail about wiki cleanup ? |
| 20:54.28 | rah | I did |
| 20:54.44 | nschle85|2 | hmm what should we do ? |
| 20:55.42 | rah | I see three sets of instructions: building with chroot, building with Makefile but without chroot, building without chroot and without Makefile |
| 20:56.35 | rah | perhaps the building page needs to explain the basic principles (OE, bitbake, etc), explain that there are three different methods, what their advantages/disadvantages are, and then link to separate pages containing the actual instructions? |
| 20:58.08 | nschle85|2 | rah: what should building with shr-chroot about ? with or without Makefile ? |
| 20:59.11 | rah | nschle85: I would say with Makefile |
| 20:59.14 | rah | nschle85|2: (I don't think it makes much sense to try and build shr-chroot without the Makefile) |
| 20:59.44 | nschle85|2 | ? why ? |
| 21:00.24 | nschle85|2 | chroot is a well defined build environment its independent of makefile |
| 21:01.03 | nschle85|2 | so we should distinguish between host and how to build |
| 21:01.05 | rah | shr-chroot creates 1000x more files than the Makefile so if you're not worried about those, I doubt you'd worry about the extra stuff brought in by the Makefile :-) |
| 21:01.57 | nschle85|2 | rah: chroot is only a build environment |
| 21:03.21 | nschle85|2 | rah: ok we should do the following: |
| 21:03.36 | rah | nschle85|2: if that's the case, then the shr-chroot rules should be separated into its own Makefile |
| 21:05.17 | nschle85|2 | rah: hmm, its hard to argument, but the makefile works well in chroot and non-chroot |
| 21:05.49 | nschle85|2 | rah: so chroot is additional stuff in makefile |
| 21:06.37 | nschle85|2 | rah: so it can be separated or not .... |
| 21:07.17 | nschle85|2 | rah: it would me made things more complicated (download 2 makefiles) |
| 21:07.56 | nschle85|2 | rah: hmm.. how can we get to a consense ? |
| 21:09.07 | rah | nschle85: the shr-chroot makefile could be told to download the build makefile automatically |
| 21:09.15 | rah | so the user would still only download one makefile |
| 21:10.04 | rah | the only issue is there would be two separate makefiles to maintain, but really that should be the case if they're two independent aspects of the system |
| 21:10.25 | nschle85|2 | rah: can you please merge your page into build shr page ? i propose: manually setup shr build from scratch |
| 21:10.57 | rah | me? |
| 21:10.59 | rah | oh man |
| 21:11.05 | rah | I thought someone was going to do it :-) |
| 21:11.15 | rah | err.. someone *else* :-) |
| 21:11.28 | nschle85|2 | rah: i can do it :-) |
| 21:11.58 | rah | nschle85|2: nice one :-) |
| 21:12.55 | nschle85|2 | rah: so my intention was not to talk about how to build shr, i wanted to clean up and simplify the wiki |
| 21:13.10 | rah | aye |
| 21:13.30 | rah | nschle85|2: if you're taking on the rest of the wiki cleanup, it makes more sense for you to it really; if it's only one person, they'll do it consistently, which means neatly :-) |
| 21:15.02 | nschle85|2 | rah: pardon, my english is not very good, so what you wanted to tell me ? |
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| 21:15.56 | rah | nschle85|2: it's good if one person does the wiki clean up because there will only be one style |
| 21:18.18 | nschle85|2 | rah: ok i understand, but style is not the question, content is more important here so everybody can change here :-) |
| 21:19.58 | nschle85|2 | rah: ill change the page, afterwards we can talk about it, btw your input was very important for me. |
| 21:22.16 | rah | nschle85: cool |
| 21:22.19 | rah | nschle85: np :-) |
| 21:22.39 | nschle85|2 | np ? null pointer ? |
| 21:23.57 | rah | heh |
| 21:23.58 | rah | np == 'no problem' :-) |
| 21:24.39 | nschle85|2 | ah, ok saved ... |
| 21:26.22 | nschle85|2 | rah: before i merge there are some parts like emacs conf/local.conf do you have any content for that ? |
| 21:29.48 | rah | nschle85|2: not really, just "edit as directed by comments" I guess |
| 21:30.18 | nschle85|2 | ok |
| 21:33.28 | nschle85|2 | rah do you see any other hotspots in wiki we should clean up ? |
| 21:41.01 | rah | nschle85|2: IMHO, it would be good if the device-specific pages all followed the same format and contained similar information |
| 21:41.38 | rah | nschle85|2: not just the installation instructions |
| 21:42.04 | rah | nschle85|2: but that's probably a pretty big job; I imagine you would have to talk to lots of devs for different devices |
| 21:42.28 | nschle85|2 | rah: i agree, but installation instructions are very important, so i f they where uptodate it would be nice :-) |
| 21:42.39 | rah | nschle85|2: yes, indeed |
| 21:43.23 | rah | perhaps it would be enough to have a template device information page, and ask whoever edits device pages to follow the template |
| 21:44.23 | nschle85|2 | hmm, but as ik can the the template will not give enough format |
| 21:44.58 | nschle85|2 | the installation instructions for gta02 and n900 are differing very lot |
| 21:45.53 | nschle85|2 | rah: please give me some minutes to merge your information |
| 21:46.14 | rah | ok |
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| 21:58.55 | nschle85|2 | rah: ok merged |
| 21:59.55 | rah | nschle85|2: cool |
| 22:00.26 | nschle85|2 | now we can discuss about structure of http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR |
| 22:01.40 | rah | :-) |
| 22:02.00 | rah | well, unfortunately it's nearly time for me to do to bed :-) |
| 22:02.05 | rah | s/do/go/ |
| 22:03.46 | nschle85|2 | rah: +ap i do understand :-) |
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| 22:05.01 | nschle85|2 | rah: sweet dreams... |
| 22:05.04 | nschle85|2 | bye |
| 22:05.11 | rah | g'night |
| 22:05.31 | nschle85|2 | rah: do you agree with my merge ? |
| 22:05.43 | nschle85|2 | (last question) |
| 22:06.07 | rah | nschle85|2: looks ok yes :-) |
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| 23:08.49 | nschle85|2 | good night bye |
| 23:13.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi mrmoku |
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| 23:47.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi mickeyl |
| 23:49.07 | mickeyl | hi |
| 23:55.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickeyl, I've logs for you |
| 23:56.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickeyl, when the modem doesn't want to hangup.... |
| 23:56.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | do you want them |
| 23:56.17 | mickeyl | sure |
| 23:56.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | or are the infos on the gta04 ml enough? |
| 23:56.34 | mickeyl | which modem? |
| 23:56.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 23:56.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | option from gta04 |
| 23:56.34 | mickeyl | k |
| 23:58.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://gnutoo.homelinux.org/downloads/people/mickeyl/logs.tar.bz2 |
| 23:58.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've included all logs but I guess you want only fsogsmd |
| 23:58.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | are you suscribed to gta04-owner? |
| 23:59.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah yes right you are |
| 23:59.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | since you posted there |
