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05:20.18lindi-mrmoku: yep the alsa register cache corruption on resume surely has caused silent (no pun intended) misbehavior :)
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09:22.01lindi-lars_: is https://gitorious.org/shr/linux/commit/f58597e68f36da7d4f4dec08520d3e12258addf2?format=patch a good candidate for upstreaming right now? It does look like something safe
09:22.18lindi-lars_: but I have absolutely no experience on gpiolib
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09:25.33mrmokuSlyon: yo
09:25.40Slyonmrmoku, hey!
09:25.56mrmokujust wanted to ping all FSOSHRCON attendees :)
09:26.17Slyonah :) any specific reason?
09:26.37mrmokuyeah, LH would like to know who is going to share a room with whom
09:27.22mrmokuhmm... probably  a mail fits better
09:28.09Slyonok. i don't care. i will just share a room with whoever needs a partner
09:28.45mrmokuok :)
09:29.56Slyonmrmoku, it is recommended to rebuild from scratch after update-shr-chroot, right?
09:30.24mrmokuSlyon: usually not
09:34.07Slyonmrmoku, hmm but what about this http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=commit;h=11f5fab0c4e382c99e2fb89de5121a93d7031816 ?
09:34.27JaMa|WrkSlyon: add it to your local.conf
09:34.32JaMa|Wrkif you don't want to rebuild now
09:34.48JaMa|Wrkand newer local.conf has it in comment
09:35.23SlyonJaMa|Wrk, alright. thanks
09:35.40Slyoni have a 3h databases class at the moment, so i'll probably rebuild :)
09:35.56JaMa|Wrkeven better
09:39.09Slyonmrmoku, did this guy from the gta04-owners ML, who wanted to help with the gta04/FSO port, already drop in here?
09:39.21mrmokuSlyon: no :/
09:40.12Slyonmrmoku, sad... as I didn't get any further with my fsogsmd work, due to a lot of work at university
09:40.32Slyonall I did was a little experimenting with alsa
09:40.46mrmokuSlyon: ok, I'm working on systemd these days... did not do anything gta04/fso related too :/
09:40.58mrmokuand time is rare here too
09:41.31lindi-JaMa|Wrk: https://gitorious.org/shr/linux/commit/833339cd47295e86e0ca8c838e8997a24ababf6c?format=patch looks like something should be upstreamed immediately. perhaps it needs rewritten commit message though
09:42.39Slyonmrmoku, yeah, as always. well, probably we can do a bigger step at FSOSHRCON at a code sprint.
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11:48.01lindi-JaMa|Wrk: that fix is in 3.0.0 :)
12:09.40JaMa|Wrkgreat
12:12.59lindi-JaMa|Wrk: https://gitorious.org/shr/linux/commit/74c481b35be9bf9b7d512de6942c7be345a7db47?format=patch looks easy too
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13:13.07mrmokuJaMa|Wrk: what is your take on systemd/syslog? right now in our config syslog.service is masked
13:13.19mrmokuwhich means we have no syslog
13:13.56mrmokufor that to work with busybox we would need a devel one
13:15.54JaMa|Wrkmrmoku: I'm using syslog-ng in my images maybe not best option, but I don't like busybox almost as much as DocScrutinizer :)
13:17.00mrmokuJaMa|Wrk: well if we all dislike it that much we should get rid of it :-)
13:17.13mrmokuwe already have bash
13:18.03mrmokuJaMa|Wrk: another masked thing is networking.service
13:18.11DocScrutinizer~messybox
13:18.12aptmessy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils
13:18.20JaMa|Wrkthere was problem with syslog-ng overwriting /etc/modules.conf, but that's fixed now so maybe it's good alternative
13:18.48mrmokuok, will try that then
13:19.04mrmokuJaMa|Wrk: do you know if angstrom is using connman only?
13:19.12JaMa|Wrkor maybe rsyslog?
13:19.16DocScrutinizerproper bash plus tools worked fine even on FR, courtesy mrmoku 's instructions on what to apt-get install
13:19.22JaMa|Wrkmrmoku: I think so (about connman + networkmanager)
13:19.49mrmokuok
13:19.56mrmokuconnman does not start for me
13:21.05mrmokuroot@om-gta04:~# connmand -d -n
13:21.06mrmokuFailed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
13:22.11JaMa|Wrkdbus running fine?
13:22.55mrmokuno
13:23.05mrmokustarting it manually with systemctl start dbus.service worked though
13:23.12mrmokuafter that connman starts too
13:23.45mrmokuroot@om-gta04:~# systemctl enable dbus.service
13:23.45mrmokuWarning: unit files do not carry install information. No operation executed.
13:25.00mrmokuhmm
13:35.20JaMa|Wrktomorrow we have national holidays.. so I hope I wont be so long at work and will be able to work on systemd a bit
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13:37.36mrmoku:)
13:38.36JaMa|Wrkthat's not funny :P
13:39.18mrmoku;)
13:39.55mrmokuJaMa|Wrk: I can imagine :/
13:41.44JaMa|Wrkbut my part should be finished before FSOSHRUDCON so trying to keep deadlines now :)
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14:39.11GNUtoohi JaMa|Wrk
14:39.17GNUtooERROR: Only one copy of bitbake should be run against a build directory
14:39.21GNUtoodid you ever see that error?
14:39.27GNUtooI've deleted some stuff in cache
14:39.43GNUtoolike khem told me long time ago
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14:39.51GNUtoobecause parsing took too much ram
14:39.57GNUtooand now I cannot package-index
14:40.01GNUtooor build anything
14:43.14pespinGNUtoo, maybe grepping for error in code and looking how's doing the check?
14:43.52JaMa|WrkGNUtoo: if you're sure bitbake is not running on background then remove the lock manually
14:44.40JaMa|WrkGNUtoo: see http://bugzilla.pokylinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1464
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14:46.03GNUtoofound it
14:46.09GNUtooI'm removing the lock
14:46.16GNUtooI read the sources and found that there was a lock
14:46.25GNUtooand the lock lives in ${TOPDIR}
14:47.56GNUtoopespin, I'll retry with newer enjoy but the last one I tried lacked *a lot* of dependencies
14:47.59GNUtoolike alsa etc...
14:48.02GNUtooso it was unusable
14:48.17pespinGNUtoo, unusable because of deps? I don't understand
14:48.29GNUtoono sound outputed
14:48.34GNUtooRDEPENDS deps
14:48.41GNUtoolike gst-plugin-alsa
14:48.47pespinyeah, and what's the problem with that?
14:49.06GNUtooyou install intone, follow the test-lms message and then it doesn't work
14:49.08pespinGNUtoo, did you get something like GST_*CLOCK errors all the time while playing?
14:49.17GNUtoolet me retry
14:50.12GNUtoono I don't
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14:52.03pespinGNUtoo, ok, I just compiled newest emotion+enjoy here in PC and it's working. It didn't before
14:52.12GNUtoowow nice
14:52.21pespinwhen I have some time I'll look into it
14:52.23GNUtooso maybe time to bump EFL_SRCREV?
14:52.27pespinyeah
14:52.31pespinplease try it if you cant
14:52.38GNUtooalso the icons are broken with the current srcrev
14:52.43GNUtoowhat does JaMa|Wrk thinks?
14:52.59pespins/cant/can/
14:53.08GNUtooJaMa|Wrk, here's our(pespin and me) problem: we want a decent music player on the freerunner
14:53.10pespinin rev 65295 it's working here
14:53.29GNUtoomplayer2 is too slow according to pespin and to my last test(long time ago)
14:53.41pespineven using mad
14:54.13GNUtoomplayer1 works fine locally
14:54.19pespinGNUtoo, I'm leaving to univ in few mins (I have class) so I can't try now in gta02
14:54.20GNUtoonote that I cannot even build mplayer2
14:54.24GNUtoook
14:54.28GNUtooindeed
14:54.28pabs3GNUtoo: intone?
14:54.37GNUtoopabs3, yes that depend on mplayer
14:54.47pespinI would first use rev 65295  for E. If it still not works, then it might be some gst module missing
14:55.09GNUtoopabs3, so if mplayer2 breaks music on freerunner(too slow) intone is unusable, but if we use mplayer1 instead intone is nearly usable
14:55.27GNUtoopespin, there *are* some gst modules missing
14:55.37pespinin RDEPENDS?
14:55.40GNUtooyes
14:55.44GNUtooalsa at least is missing
14:55.52GNUtoobut I don't want you to be late
14:55.56GNUtooso let's talk about that later
14:57.06pespinGNUtoo, we should create some wiki page in SHR wiki for enjoy, as we are always having problems like this. So if you have a moment and you can put this info there it would be nice :)
14:57.17GNUtoook I'll do
14:58.20JaMa|WrkGNUtoo: there is patch adding tremor support for mplayer2 when building for om-gta02
14:58.43JaMa|WrkGNUtoo: and mplayer2+libmad has no reason to be slower then mplayer+libmad
14:59.30JaMa|Wrkhttp://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=commit;h=e51b68e076d61cb92849ad0aa741f3389451336f
15:00.34GNUtoook I'll try
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15:01.23pespinJaMa|Wrk, the true fact is that playback is not good enough :P
15:01.47JaMa|Wrkpespin: because of mplayer2?
15:02.06pespinno idea
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15:02.40pespinbut some months ago I could listen to music without it stopping, and now I can't
15:02.48JaMa|Wrkand we can alter some mplayer params in mplayer-common to provide better defaults for om-gta02
15:02.54JaMa|Wrkwhich are not needed ie for n900
15:03.27GNUtooJaMa|Wrk, ok will do that right after writting the page about music players
15:03.48JaMa|Wrkpespin: well this needs to be narrowed a bit.. mplayer output would be nice or it could even be slower uSD after slowing glamo_mci or whatever..
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15:16.50GNUtooJaMa|Wrk, I'll try mplayer 2 but it will fails to compile I guess
15:16.58GNUtoolibdvdread fails
15:17.04GNUtooI'll clean it and restart
15:17.15GNUtooah maybe it's me?
15:17.23GNUtoobecause I tried a recipe of that
15:17.44GNUtooit's me sorry
15:17.48GNUtooI'll remove that recipe
15:20.24GNUtooJaMa|Wrk, mplayer2 doesn't find libdvdread now
15:20.26GNUtoohmmm
15:20.40GNUtooah I'll put it back
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15:28.37GNUtoook mplayer2 succedded
15:31.43JaMa|WrkGNUtoo: libdvdread is there since a816b10b76ccf9fb883057ccbbe1c59b6c085d88
15:32.04JaMa|Wrkbut for some dependency you need to set COMMERCIAL_LICENSES in your local.conf
15:32.27GNUtoook
15:32.30GNUtooit's set
15:32.35GNUtooanyway midori segfault
15:32.41GNUtoo*still segfaults
15:33.25JaMa|Wrkthe newer version?
15:34.01GNUtoomidori - 0.4.2-r2
15:34.20GNUtoohttp://www.pastie.org/private/cjpeiomgvqbklvoq3msr4g
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16:12.07mrmokuJaMa|Wrk: shr-splash init script was causing a systemd cycle loop - and systemd kicked the dbus service to break that loop :P
16:13.05JaMa|Wrkheh
16:13.11JaMa|Wrkgood work
16:13.25mrmokunow things look a lot friendlier :)
16:18.11GNUtoopespin, JaMa|Wrk mplayer2 seem to work in intone if you renice it
16:18.46pespinah nice!
16:23.05pespinbtw guys, we should think about getting some kind of emulator for app developers
16:23.11pespinand write some documentation on it in the wiki
16:23.16GNUtoohmmm
16:23.21GNUtoofirst we need devices that work
16:23.34GNUtooor development environment
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16:23.43GNUtooaltough we can easily add a qemu target
16:23.44pespinwe need both things, and there's lots of people which know how to write apps but not about hw stuff
16:24.07pespinGNUtoo, if no apps, some device devs doesn't feel like working on it
16:24.22pespinGNUtoo, if no devices, app devs can't program apps nicely
16:24.31pespinso we need both imho
16:25.26GNUtoobbl
16:25.35pespinI don't know much about virtualization, but would be nice if someone who's used to work with that can give some ideas on what should be used and how we should support that
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16:29.36GNUtoothere was a qemu version for the freerunner
16:29.43GNUtooelse there is standard qemu target in oe
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16:38.33mrmokuJaMa|Wrk: heh, nice. solved serial console too :)
16:38.41mrmokuit had getty instead of agetty in the unit file
16:38.48mrmokuthere is no getty in our images :P
16:39.08mrmokunow I can debug networking :)
16:50.55GNUtooJaMa|Wrk, any idea about midori?
16:51.04GNUtoomaybe I should try eve again?
17:01.07GNUtoohi mrmoku
17:02.17GNUtoomrmoku, for FSOSHRCON do people leave on sunday or on monday morning(in other words until when did you book ?)
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17:11.43JaMa|Wrkpespin: or you can build qemuarm from oe-core and there are few helper scripts to start qemu with vncserver for you
17:12.08JaMa|WrkGNUtoo: not from that output you've pasted
17:12.52JaMa|Wrkmrmoku: I don't have any days free so I hope to travel back on sunday night or monday early morning
17:15.53GNUtoook should I install -dbg and debug it?
17:16.10JaMa|Wrkyes please
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17:35.47mrmokuGNUtoo: on sunday
17:36.17mrmokuJaMa|Wrk: yeah, beds are for fri + sat night anyway :)
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17:52.14fpuhelllo
17:54.47GNUtoomrmoku, at what hour people will leave on sunday?
17:58.03GNUtoofpu, hi
18:00.35mrmokuGNUtoo: that depends solely on us
18:00.53GNUtoook but what did "us" decide?
18:02.17mrmokunothing yet :)
18:02.41mrmokumaybe we should put up an agenda in the fso wiki
18:02.52mrmokuto collect topics to discuss and stuff to hack on
18:02.57JaMa|Wrkone train to CZ is leaving Nuremberg IMHO too early on Sunday and another is in early morning.. so I wouldn't mind to arrive to Nuremerg late
18:03.07mrmoku:)
18:03.07mrmokuok
18:03.23mrmokuchecks time table for trains to milano
18:03.33GNUtoook
18:04.03GNUtoomrmoku, it seem more complicated to go trough munich unfortunately
18:04.17mrmokuahh, ok
18:04.22GNUtooI think it would be simplier to go trough a vertical line....
18:04.35GNUtootrough swiss etc...
18:04.45GNUtoois leviathan comming btw?
18:06.27mrmokuyou have to change trains 4 times though
18:07.01mrmoku3 times minimum
18:07.12mrmokuGNUtoo: no idea about leviathan_
18:11.16GNUtooyes
18:11.23GNUtoobut there is a simplier way even
18:11.39GNUtooI take a plane from malpensa in milan to dusseldorf
18:11.45GNUtooand then I take a train to essen
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18:13.49mrmokuGNUtoo: yeah, that is different then :-)
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18:59.10leviathan_mrmoku: hi
18:59.15leviathan_I was quite busy
18:59.21leviathan_sry if I missed something
18:59.24leviathan_study and work
19:00.07leviathan_did I miss a meeting? ^_^"
19:10.29JaMa|Offonly the big party with blackjack and hookers, the meeting is in December
19:26.44GNUtoomrmoku, thanks a lot for the help!!!!
19:33.47GNUtooleviathan_, there is an FSO+SHR meeting
19:33.53GNUtooleviathan, it's in december
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19:40.05JaMa|Offsomeone willing to test newer qi?
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19:47.02JaMa|Offmrmoku: can you push whatever you want for jama branch?
19:47.08JaMa|Offwhatever you have :)
19:47.23JaMa|Offnschle85: heyho
19:47.32nschle85JaMa|Off: hello :-)
19:48.13nschle85JaMa|Off: thank you for fixing the build issue (missing SHELL)
19:48.20JaMa|OffGNUtoo: btw did last apr-native patch help you? it's applied in upstream oe-core now..
19:48.53JaMa|OffGNUtoo: so I don't need to debug why the SHELL var was missing if current version works for you
19:49.20nschle85JaMa|Off: for me it also works
19:49.54JaMa|OffI know it works for you :)
19:50.12nschle85JaMa|Off: yes because you used the build server :-)
19:50.20JaMa|Offbtw I did rebuild from scratch in one of n900 builds just before you did the other one
19:50.39JaMa|Offso now are both quite the same.. not sure if worth keeping both if you need disk space
19:51.40nschle85JaMa|Off: i think its good to have at least one working and another for exeperiments
19:51.52JaMa|Offok
19:52.51nschle85JaMa|Off: /dev/md1             239320776 168463240  58700756  75% /
19:53.23nschle85JaMa|Off: so there is space for 1 more build
19:53.40JaMa|Offok
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19:55.18nschle85JaMa|Off: i saw that you added a bitbake -c cleansstate ???  in the in one of the tasks, you can also do such custem steps directly in the console if you like
19:56.44JaMa|Offyou mean in shell over ssh? or jenkins console?
19:56.54nschle85shell and ssh
19:57.59nschle85JaMa|Off: do you know how ?
20:01.45GNUtooJaMa|Off, yes it helped
20:02.30JaMa|Offgreat, thanks for confirmation
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20:19.10nschle85JaMa|Off: i plan also to come to FSOSHRCON11 is there anythink which can be prepared for that meeting ?
20:29.24JaMa|Offbooze? :)
20:30.41nschle85JaMa|Off: i think thats included in the price :-)
20:32.53JaMa|Offnope only punch cards and coffee is included :)
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20:54.23mrmokuJaMa|Off: I pushed something to oe-contrib/jansa/tests
20:54.50mrmokuI have something for meta-smartphone too... need to test it first though
20:54.59mrmokuthe image built fine
20:55.14mrmokudunno if it does what I want it to :)
20:55.41mrmoku-INITSCRIPT_PARAMS = "start 01 S . stop 21 0 1 6 ."
20:55.41mrmoku+INITSCRIPT_PARAMS = "start S . stop 21 0 1 6 ."
20:55.45mrmokufor the splash screen
20:56.10mrmokuleviathan_: have time from 16th-18th of december?
20:56.25mrmokuGNUtoo: what help?
20:56.53mrmokuGNUtoo: ahh... travel planning? np
20:57.17mrmokunschle85: do you have an fso trac account?
20:57.27mrmokuyou could start some page for the agenda
20:57.29JaMa|Offmrmoku: I've added syslog-ng to task-shr-minimal
20:57.35mrmokunschle85: btw. bed is ok
20:57.42nschle85fine
20:57.46mrmokuJaMa|Off: hehe, ok. I have rsyslog in there :P
20:57.53mrmokudoes not work out of the box though
20:58.02mrmokuit looses the start
20:58.09JaMa|Offdid you solve dbus?
20:58.09mrmokunot as it should be with systemd
20:58.32mrmokuI hope that INITSCRIPT_PARAMS fixes it
20:58.42mrmokuif I disable shr-splash dbus works
20:59.07mrmokuand the systemd cycle loop might just come from the fact that it is being started in S *and* 01
20:59.14mrmokuhave to verify by booting
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20:59.48nschle85mrmoku: i have wiki but trac i dont know
21:00.01JaMa|Offmrmoku: ah still /var/run -> volatile/run link
21:00.03mrmokunschle85: I thought that is the same... but wiki is what I mean
21:00.14mrmokuJaMa|Off: did you rebuild consolekit?
21:00.17mrmokuthat fixed it for me
21:01.09JaMa|Offit fixed rootfs /var/log link for me
21:01.16mrmokuahh
21:01.20nschle85mrmoku: no its not the same, trc i havent but wiki i have :-)
21:01.27mrmokuyeah, I still have that hack from angstrom
21:01.40mrmokunschle85: well wiki is what you need :-)
21:02.16leviathan_mrmoku: I'll try to keep this date open
21:02.19leviathan_thx
21:02.20leviathan_:-)
21:02.21mrmokuJaMa|Off: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/508916/
21:02.40JaMa|Offmrmoku: do you also have ttyAMA0?
21:02.44mrmokuleviathan_: if you want a bed... you should tell me a bit before :)
21:02.49mrmokuJaMa|Off: what is that?
21:03.11mrmokugoes and fetches his gta04 to check
21:03.14JaMa|Offno idea but systemd is starting something like that :)
21:03.16GNUtoomrmoku, yes travel planning, thanks
21:03.20JaMa|Offat least in my qemuarm image
21:03.28JaMa|Offmrmoku: ah can you push that?
21:05.12mrmokuJaMa|Off: sure moment
21:05.23mrmokubtw. dbus fix fixed networking with connman too :)
21:05.48mrmokuleviathan_: btw. should battery charging work with current master?
21:06.00mrmokuhas to abuse his gta02 as charger these days...
21:06.08JaMa|Offserial-getty@ttyAMA0.service holdoff time over...
21:06.26mrmokuJaMa|Off: ahh, ok. I get serial-getty@ttyO2.service
21:06.34mrmokuand that works as I have ttyO2 :)
21:06.40mrmoku(after changing getty --> agetty)
21:06.44GNUtoostrange strange, I tried angstrom and midori works there
21:07.22JaMa|OffGNUtoo: angstrom is using gcc-4.5 iirc
21:07.22GNUtoowith shr branch on meta-oe and oe-core
21:07.22GNUtooah?
21:07.25GNUtooso the problem with midori is the compiler?
21:07.29JaMa|OffGNUtoo: and we have default gcc-4.6
21:07.33JaMa|Offcould be
21:07.40GNUtoook
21:09.31GNUtooalso systemd works there if you change the permissions of the dbus-helper
21:10.04leviathan_mrmoku: yes
21:10.07leviathan_it should
21:10.15leviathan_DRM as well btw :-)
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21:11.02mrmokuJaMa|Off: pushed
21:12.17JaMa|Offthanks
21:12.36JaMa|Offtrying to get elsa.service
21:12.52mrmokuJaMa|Off: sed -i -e s/\@BAUDRATE\@/${@get_baudrate(bb, d)}/g ${WORKDIR}/serial-getty@.service
21:13.11mrmokureturn bb.data.getVar('SERIAL_CONSOLE', d, 1).split()[1]
21:13.21mrmokuSERIAL_CONSOLE for qemu is that ttyAMA0 then
21:13.42mrmokuand you probably need to enable that somehow when starting qemu
21:15.13mrmokuleviathan: [  521.269531] power_supply twl4030_usb: driver failed to report `current_now' property
21:15.17mrmoku[  521.288208] twl4030_bci twl4030_bci: battery disconnected
21:16.17JaMa|Offmrmoku: indeed, thanks! ./qemuarm.conf:SERIAL_CONSOLE = "115200 ttyAMA0"
21:18.11mrmokuJaMa|Off: installing image now to see if I can push the shr-splash change
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21:22.38nschle85mrmoku: ok, find the link :-) http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/FSOSHRCON_2011
21:23.25mrmokunschle85: great thx :-)
21:23.32JaMa|Offbig one! 767.5M  var/lib/opkg
21:23.41nschle85mrmoku: it was hard work :-)
21:23.53nschle85mrmoku: and how the content is filled ?
21:23.57JaMa|Off760.2M  var/lib/opkg/lists/shr-armv4t
21:23.59JaMa|Offheh
21:26.46nschle85mrmoku: gnutoo_: do you when starting in munich ?
21:26.58nschle85know
21:27.34mrmokunschle85: gah... how to add a bullet list?
21:27.37mrmokuwiki noob
21:27.55gnutoo_<PROTECTED>
21:28.00mrmokuthx :-)
21:28.21gnutoo_don t forget the space before the *
21:29.06mrmokuohh... seems to work without too :P
21:29.21mrmokunschle85: I added to sections to collect topics
21:29.23gnutoo_what wiki?
21:29.25gnutoo_fso or shr?
21:29.35mrmokuhttp://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/FSOSHRCON_2011_AGENDA
21:29.46gnutoo_fso: * is ok without the space, shr: you need the space
21:29.49nschle85mrmoku: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting
21:30.30mrmokuJaMa|Off: ok, removing shr-splash from runlevel 01 did it
21:30.36mrmokupushes that too
21:30.38mrmokunschle85: thx
21:30.47mrmokugnutoo_: ok, thank you too :)
21:33.47mrmokuJaMa|Off: pushed
21:34.08mrmokuJaMa|Off: nothing else from my side for now :)
21:35.44JaMa|Offthx again
21:35.44JaMa|Offmrmoku: do we want tinylogin in image? for getty or util-linux-agetty?
21:36.16mrmokuJaMa|Off: hmm... I don't enough about the differences to care
21:36.20mrmokutake whatever you prefer :)
21:36.27mrmokubtw. networking is *not* fixed
21:36.38mrmokuas connman is ignoring usb0
21:36.58mrmokuand networking service is masked by linking it to /dev/null
21:37.11mrmokudunno what to do there
21:37.33mrmokuprobably best fix would be to let connman handle usb0 correctly
21:37.54mrmokujust knows NetworkManager and has no clue about connman :/
21:39.11mrmokuJaMa|Off: hmm... wlan0 is disabled for connman too... wtf. what for is it then? :P
21:39.17nschle85mrmoku: does anybody know which time the 3 meals are planned ? (ill add to wiki)
21:39.23gnutoo_Ill go bye
21:39.41JaMa|Offmrmoku: only for fsogsm to handle gprs I guess
21:39.44mrmokunschle85: well meal from LH is only breakfast
21:40.16nschle85mrmoku: the others are not bookable ?
21:40.21mrmokuJaMa|Off: yeah, will play a bit with it
21:40.34mrmokunschle85: they are, we just did not the last time
21:40.39mrmokudunno about this time
21:41.26mrmokunschle85: anyway... the time is upon us to decide (within sane parameters :P)
21:42.40mrmokunschle85: just add them with some 'standard' time
21:42.53mrmokubreakfast not too late maybe... as we don't have time to loose :)
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21:55.28nschle85mrmoku: i hope i entered standard time :-)
21:56.17mrmokunschle85: apart from 8:00 being hacker unfriendly :P
21:56.33mrmokuI meant more like not at 10:00
21:56.47mrmoku8:00 might be hard after a long night :)
21:56.55mrmokuhowever we can still decide on that
21:57.49nschle85mrmoku: so i never attended such kind of meeting :-)
21:58.36mrmokuI only once
21:58.46nschle85and what is realistic time ?
21:59.28mrmokudunno... something around 9:00... maybe a bit before? leave it as is for now... let's see if somebody complains :_)
21:59.45mrmokutaliking about time... time for me to go to bed :P
22:00.01mrmokugnight all... and have fun :D
22:00.43nschle85mrmoku: please have a look
22:01.29nschle85mrmoku: please update
22:02.26JaMa|Offmrmoku: can I replace your systemd-serialgetty change by u-a calls in util-linux providing /sbin/getty?
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22:04.20JaMa|Offhow to registr on fso wiki?
22:04.32JaMa|Offit says that my username doesn't exist :/
22:10.26nschle85JaMa|Off: as i remember Mickey added me manually because they where hacked so own registration did not work
22:11.21nschle85JaMa|Off: you can pastie and ill add until you account works
22:11.55JaMa|Offnschle85: please add me to attendees so mrmoko wont forget me in Nuremberg train station :)
22:13.52nschle85JaMa|Off: if he forgets i can also collect you :-)
22:14.39nschle85JaMa|Off: on which position, which text ?
22:15.19JaMa|Off"Who?" section http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/FSOSHRCON_2011
22:15.54nschle85JaMa|Off: that i know but where to sort you in ?
22:16.46JaMa|OffMartin Jansa (JaMa), last is fine :)
22:19.17nschle85ok added, but not last, because M is before N :-)
22:20.30nschle85JaMa|Off: when does your train arrive ?
22:23.02JaMa|Offthanks
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22:27.36JaMa|Offheh we need to teach ffalarms new ways of reloading dbus I guess
22:27.38JaMa|Off//var/lib/opkg/info/ffalarms.postinst: line 2: /etc/init.d/dbus-1: No such file or directory
22:29.10nschle85ups :-)
22:30.26lindi-_JaMa|Off: just curious, does SHR have invoke-rc.d?
22:31.27lindi-_(in debian you would not refer to /etc/init.d/dbus-1 without first checking if invoke-rc.d is available -- this makes it possible to automatically test the postinst in piuparts without actually reloading any real dbus stuff)
22:32.13JaMa|Offlindi-_: update-rc.d
22:32.35lindi-_JaMa|Off: that's a different tool
22:33.03JaMa|Offlindi-_: ah you're right so no AFAIK
22:33.30nschle85JaMa|Off: update-rc.d creates the links for the runlevels
22:34.06JaMa|Offyes that's what we're using in update-rc.d.bbclass
22:34.59JaMa|Offtoo tired to read all letters in words ;/
22:35.25JaMa|Offmrmoku: Configuring util-linux-agetty.
22:35.25JaMa|Offupdate-alternatives: Linking //sbin/getty to agetty
22:35.53JaMa|Offmrmoku: and better Configuring shr-splash.
22:35.54JaMa|Off/usr/sbin/update-rc.d: line 214: printf: S: invalid number
22:41.21nschle85JaMa|Off: can you pastie /usr/sbin/update-rc.d please ?
22:45.40nschle85JaMa|Off: in ubuntu runlevel S exists but in current documentation S is not described
22:53.57nschle85bye ill go to bed ..
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23:05.24lindi-_mrmoku: I'm about to upstream https://gitorious.org/shr/linux/commit/74c481b35be9bf9b7d512de6942c7be345a7db47?format=patch
23:05.36lindi-_mrmoku: the "return 1" needs to be "return 0"
23:07.18leviathanmrmoku: you've chosen a very very bad date for your meeting
23:07.35leviathanI've got lectures on  16. as well as 17.
23:07.39leviathanbecause part time student
23:07.42leviathan-.-
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