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| 11:10.07 | mort | is there any documentation out there about how firmware and bootloaders work with yocto/oe? |
| 11:11.03 | LetoThe2nd | mort: usually only on a board specific or loader specific level, becuase those things are usually... board specific :) |
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| 13:58.20 | fray | I THINK I need 100 sq ft.. (seems like a lot..) |
| 13:58.26 | fray | I need to remeasure to be sure |
| 13:58.54 | LetoThe2nd | fray: for documenting firmware and bootloaders? :P |
| 14:00.39 | fray | crap completely wrong window |
| 14:00.51 | fray | (measuring for tile in my bathroom) lol |
| 14:01.47 | LetoThe2nd | fray: guessed something like it but i totally couldn't let the opportunity pass |
| 14:02.12 | fray | lol |
| 14:02.37 | LetoThe2nd | :) |
| 14:02.44 | fray | So I need 8 boxes of tiles @ 66.63 a box.. yikes |
| 14:03.15 | LetoThe2nd | my condolences. |
| 14:03.36 | fray | it's better then the marble tile I found last night that was $163 a square foot.. :P |
| 14:03.44 | fray | this stuff is only $6.89 a square foot |
| 14:04.25 | fray | (6.7 m^2 for the rest of the world is the wall size in my tub) |
| 14:04.56 | LetoThe2nd | i like marble. |
| 14:05.00 | LetoThe2nd | buy once, cry one. |
| 14:05.02 | fray | and a box has .9 m^2 of tile in it for USD 66.63 a box |
| 14:05.05 | LetoThe2nd | once, even. |
| 14:05.29 | fray | flooring I have is vinyl, but has a marble pattern on it.. (and a WHOLE lot cheaper) |
| 14:05.54 | fray | I'm thinking in the tub area, I'll do an accent with some actual marble, some sort of mosaic.. but I still have to determine the size of colors.. |
| 14:06.34 | fray | (rest of the room is wood trim and paint.. so cheaper then tile for sure.. and a lot easier to install!) |
| 14:07.45 | georgem | hmm. I'll have to look into some of that for my bathroom. Unfortunately the subfloor seems quite un-level so something like that would probably be much easier to install than ceramic tile. |
| 14:07.46 | LetoThe2nd | fray: do i come off as sufficiently arrogant if i point out that my bathroom floors and window panes are actually blue pearl marble? :P |
| 14:09.42 | georgem | LetoThe2nd: nice. Is it recent construction? |
| 14:09.57 | LetoThe2nd | georgem: 2012 IIRC |
| 14:10.00 | fray | LetoThe2nd na, you just like marble.. :) |
| 14:10.07 | georgem | cool |
| 14:10.25 | fray | I was looking at a 'Biltmore' marble originally, but out of the budget for the second bathroom in the house.. |
| 14:10.54 | fray | so going to tile instead for the shower, and wainscoting for the wall.. should save me about $1000-$2000 doing it this way |
| 14:11.02 | georgem | My bathroom is quite large. I suspect marble would cost $20k USD to do the floor. |
| 14:11.14 | fray | but I did install a European (Italian actually) radiator in the room... |
| 14:11.18 | georgem | maybe it's cheaper than I'm thinking |
| 14:12.06 | fray | lol, this is a SMALL bathroom, only 86"x60" (36 sq ft, or 3.4 m^2) |
| 14:12.42 | LetoThe2nd | yeah my bathrooms are actually quite small. we were like "this is not real estate to spend time in, so lets keep it small" |
| 14:12.51 | fray | 8.2 m^3 in volume |
| 14:13.23 | fray | (US always uses floor space, not volume.. but I know some countries everything is measured by volume for the room) |
| 14:13.37 | georgem | ours has a shower, spa tub, double vanities all that stuff plus a toliet room with a separating door. |
| 14:14.17 | georgem | floor is really crappy linoleum right now |
| 14:14.19 | fray | The before: https://kernel.crashing.org/fray/Upstairs_Bathroom/Webster,%20February%2013,%202020/IMG_1888.jpeg |
| 14:15.06 | fray | (from that picture, the door is actually moving to the right side of the hallway wall, instead of where it is now.. always bugs be that you are basically walking into the toilet to the room, then have to walk around it.. I'm fixing that) |
| 14:15.08 | georgem | that's about the size of the bathroom in my last house that I put ceramic tile in. |
| 14:15.32 | fray | I've got a 1950's inwall medicine cabinet/mirror for above the sink.. |
| 14:15.46 | fray | but using the same toilet, sink and tub that you see in that picture |
| 14:15.56 | fray | ...and my new radiator... |
| 14:16.03 | georgem | I agree with you on the toilet placement |
| 14:16.18 | LetoThe2nd | feels awesome. successfully diverted #oe into a bathroom discussion. |
| 14:16.19 | fray | https://kernel.crashing.org/fray/Upstairs_Bathroom/Webster,%20March%202,%202020/IMG_1941.jpeg |
| 14:16.26 | LetoThe2nd | back to wörk for me. |
| 14:16.30 | fray | (and completely by accident as well) |
| 14:16.50 | fray | (this all started cause teh 1920's era cast iron plumbing had to be replaced..) |
| 14:17.31 | georgem | I love the character of older houses but yikes, a lot of work. |
| 14:17.45 | fray | I live (in american standards) in an old house.. was originally built in 1880's, maybe torn down and rebuilt in 1900.. then added onto several times, 1920's, 1940's, 1960's and 1980's.. |
| 14:18.25 | fray | georgem ya, the window isn't frameed properly.. so the buidler needs to construct a proper header above the window.. and the floor structure needs some additional support added.. |
| 14:18.33 | georgem | yeah, that's very old by American standards. I suspect you live on the East coast? |
| 14:19.12 | fray | Midwest.. Minnesota |
| 14:19.26 | fray | the mockup of the wainscotting and sink: |
| 14:19.27 | fray | https://kernel.crashing.org/fray/Upstairs_Bathroom/Webster,%20March%201,%202020/IMG_1937.jpeg |
| 14:19.31 | georgem | ah ok. I'm in Kansas City area. There are very few properties that old here. |
| 14:19.40 | fray | (my office is on the other side of that wall) |
| 14:19.59 | fray | so there are plans to fill the wall with insulation as a sound deadening.. |
| 14:20.05 | LetoThe2nd | fray: sounds very much like you are into pain. of a very specific kind. |
| 14:20.21 | fray | ya.. I've found a number of things wrong with this place.. |
| 14:20.44 | fray | (for the last picture) if you go directly left of the picture is our guest bedroom, which until recently we never used.. |
| 14:20.57 | fray | because from edge to center of the room was a 6+" drop.. |
| 14:21.33 | fray | the room was only 12 feet wide, 3.7m .. with a 6" (152 mm) drop.. |
| 14:22.05 | fray | I had to open the ceiling of the room below it, lift the floor (as much as the house would allow), then strengthen the structure, and put the ceiling back together.... |
| 14:22.10 | georgem | The place my MIL used to have in Montreal was similar age and the guest bedroom we stayed in when visiting pretty insane tilt to it. |
| 14:22.23 | georgem | had a* |
| 14:22.33 | fray | (did that about 2 years ago).. took me all summer for a SMALL area.. but now the floor is solid, and the overall drop is less then 1 inch (25mm) |
| 14:22.58 | fray | ya, I never felt the room was unsafe to walk in.. but it wasn't comfortable.. so we never used it |
| 14:23.23 | fray | the structure I found was 2x6 over a 14 foot span.. (room is only 12 feet, but it goes a bit beyond that room) |
| 14:23.42 | fray | modern code says 2x10 is required for that span.. but 2x8 was allowed until the late 90's.. |
| 14:24.14 | fray | after lifting it, I added 2x8's to one side of the old joists, and 3x4 plywood to the other side.. "glued and screwed".. then put blocking between the joists.. it really is solid now.. |
| 14:24.38 | fray | but just the lifting took me a month. since I had to go -slowly-, as to not break anything.. |
| 14:25.20 | georgem | wow |
| 14:26.36 | fray | http://kernel.crashing.org/~fray/floor/Pages/27.html |
| 14:27.02 | fray | that is a picture with the temporary support still in place, floor up to it's final height and the 2x8 and 3/4" plywood added.. (blocking was still missing in that photo) |
| 14:27.33 | fray | http://kernel.crashing.org/~fray/floor/Pages/11.html |
| 14:28.01 | fray | that is what I found when I took down the ceiling.. the joinsts are on the left.. they just nailed 2x4's to them (right) to make a flat ceiling, but never actually fixed the problem above.. |
| 14:28.10 | fray | I couldn't figure out how the floor was so bad, yet the ceiling was good below |
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| 16:05.20 | armpit | we all know, temporary can become permanent |
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| 17:25.03 | khem | armpit: I always borrow money temporarily |
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| 19:46.39 | tlwoerner | Jin^eLD: regarding the stm32mp1 boards: i know Marex has been working with one lately |
| 19:46.51 | tlwoerner | "there are few things as permanent as a temporary solution" |
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| 19:47.41 | tlwoerner | Jin^eLD: ask Marex about getting openocd working with it ;-) |
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