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| 13:26.54 | Crofton|work | What's the best way to manage several machines with only slight differences? |
| 13:27.41 | Crofton|work | I need different machine names to select some boot files, but there are other overrides that stay the same |
| 13:27.59 | JaMa | cannot you just use different image recipes? |
| 13:29.41 | JaMa | for example we're building images for different TV regions (atsc, dvb, arib) as the same MACHINE, just by including different set of packages in different images |
| 13:30.26 | JaMa | it's only tricky for components which need to be built differently, so we build them with different paths, so that they can be staged in sysroot in parallel |
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| 13:34.15 | Crofton|work | the problem is the fsbl code |
| 13:34.47 | Crofton|work | SRC_URI election is done via overrides |
| 13:36.55 | fray | Crofton|work, one of the things I've done is create a base <soc>.inc file or something like that.. in that file define an override that is common to all of the machines that will use it.. |
| 13:37.09 | fray | then just require the common file which specifies nearly all of the params for a given machine |
| 13:37.26 | Crofton|work | hmm, this seems close, do we have instructions for override creation? |
| 13:42.54 | fray | the piece you want to mess with is the MACHINEOVERRIDES |
| 13:43.06 | fray | defaults to: |
| 13:43.06 | fray | MACHINEOVERRIDES ?= "${MACHINE}" |
| 13:43.26 | fray | I'd suggest overriding that to MACHINEOVERRIDES = "<my_soc>:${MACHINE}" |
| 13:43.54 | fray | witht hef irst bit being the common... the last bit being hte machine.. |
| 13:44.02 | Crofton|work | ah ok, just stsarted into bitbake manual |
| 13:44.18 | fray | as for documentation/instructions, I've not seen anything that describes this.. but this chunk is very much OE specific.. |
| 13:46.00 | Crofton|work | so you wouldn't use this in Yocto Linux :) |
| 13:46.14 | fray | I don't use Yocto Linux.. I use the Yocto Project.. :) |
| 13:46.32 | fray | ...and the Yocto Project luckily includes OE |
| 13:46.44 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 13:46.57 | Crofton|work | ok, need to figure out how to implement this |
| 13:47.21 | Crofton|work | a pox on vendors with crappy fsbls and inability to detect speed grade or cpu at boot |
| 13:48.09 | JaMa | but that still leaves you with rebuilding all MACHINE_ARCH recipes for each MACHINE separately |
| 13:48.42 | JaMa | which much slower than building N images with small differences for the same MACHINE |
| 13:48.51 | fray | JaMa, yes it does.. |
| 13:48.58 | fray | but in my case that was a feature not a deficit.. |
| 13:49.58 | JaMa | slow builds are good feature for OSV, because they can deliver massive speed-up in future releases? :P |
| 13:50.47 | fray | Slow builds havn't been an issue for us... |
| 13:51.34 | fray | the MACHINE_ARCH recipes per machine was an advantage.. we don't want the same recipes as they do change per machine config.. |
| 13:51.46 | fray | it's possible they are the same, but not always.. |
| 13:51.58 | fray | but it's a lot easier to maintain and see the differences.. |
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| 13:54.14 | JaMa | 14:28:00 < Crofton|work> I need different machine names to select some boot files, but there are other overrides that stay the same |
| 13:54.29 | JaMa | if "some boot files" is the only difference between them |
| 13:54.45 | JaMa | then it probably doesn't need to rebuild all MACHINE_ARCH recipes |
| 13:58.12 | Crofton|work | I know |
| 13:58.52 | Crofton|work | tis an annoying situation |
| 14:01.00 | fray | I've not done it -- but you can define additional machine types.. and set the same MACHINE_ARCH for all BSPs.. |
| 14:01.09 | fray | then use a different arch for the unique versions.. |
| 14:01.13 | fray | it'll work, but I've not done it |
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| 14:01.36 | fray | the unique ones you would do something liek PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH_VARIANT}" |
| 14:01.50 | fray | in the unique machinef iles you define the MACHINE_ARCH_VARIANT = "${MACHINE}" |
| 14:01.58 | fray | and MACHINE_ARCH = "<common machine name>" |
| 14:02.23 | fray | you then need to add MACHINE_ARCH_VARIANT to the list of package arches.. (likely at a higher position then machine_arch) |
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| 17:45.36 | Tarnyko | hmmm, since latest oe, build blocks at "linux-yocto-4.1.8+git... do_fetch". Seems to perpertually try to clone kernel repo. Not sure how to debug this |
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| 17:51.18 | kergoth | what's the do_fetch log show? |
| 17:51.24 | kergoth | also check ps and see what processes are running |
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| 19:06.33 | Crofton|work | So I completely understand why OE can be so complex after working through the how to switch fsbl sanely |
| 19:06.42 | Crofton|work | using two machines, with all the pain that entails, however, if we only had another feature, it could be really neat! |
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| 19:33.20 | kergoth | heh |
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| 23:18.34 | reactor16 | Hi All |
| 23:20.35 | reactor16 | anyone heard of "infeonion project compile toolchain" ? |
| 23:23.33 | Crofton|work | not I |
| 23:24.43 | reactor16 | i get a source for my router its hg532e |
| 23:25.09 | reactor16 | and i have trouble to find compiling tools for it , anyone can help ? |
| 23:25.32 | reactor16 | its mips cpu and linux source code |
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