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| 06:39.41 | mago_ | how does runtime dependencies work? if I do RDEPENDS = "something", I can't seem to find a corresponding recipe for "something"? |
| 06:40.13 | mago_ | from OEs perspective, what is the difference between a build-time and a run-time dependency? |
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| 06:43.22 | kroon | mago_, I believe a single recipe can produce multiple packages, -dbg, -dev or even custom named packages. all these can be added as RDEPENDS |
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| 07:26.20 | mckoan | good morning |
| 07:26.24 | pompomJuice | howdy |
| 07:26.46 | pompomJuice | I need help mckoan. Can you help me? |
| 07:27.12 | mckoan | ~ask |
| 07:27.12 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 07:29.05 | pompomJuice | meta-angstrom/conf/distro/angstrom-v2012.12.conf contains an entry -> PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd = "208%" |
| 07:29.24 | pompomJuice | I am running 2.6.37 which only works up to 204 |
| 07:29.59 | pompomJuice | in my setup-scripts/conf/local.conf I have PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd = "204%" |
| 07:30.22 | pompomJuice | bitbake mechanisms how ever know better and always selects the higher number |
| 07:30.47 | pompomJuice | what is the correct method of fixing this issue |
| 07:31.13 | pompomJuice | ? |
| 07:31.41 | mckoan | pompomJuice: do you have systemd 204 in any of your metalayers? |
| 07:31.48 | pompomJuice | no |
| 07:32.05 | mckoan | pompomJuice: so you have to create your recipe for that |
| 07:32.12 | pompomJuice | I did |
| 07:32.35 | pompomJuice | basically just copied and changed the recipy name from to 204 |
| 07:32.56 | pompomJuice | my meta layer is at priority 14 |
| 07:33.00 | pompomJuice | higher than angstrom |
| 07:33.04 | pompomJuice | that also has no effect |
| 07:33.20 | pompomJuice | I tried to troll the bitbake code |
| 07:33.29 | pompomJuice | but I donno who codes like that |
| 07:33.35 | pompomJuice | I cant make out a thing |
| 07:33.48 | pompomJuice | python is my cuppa tea |
| 07:34.18 | pompomJuice | Tried to understand that part of the code, but I could not find a hack I could implement |
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| 07:37.22 | mckoan | pompomJuice: please pastebin your recipe and the original one (208) |
| 07:37.42 | pompomJuice | ok |
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| 07:44.54 | afournier | morning all ! |
| 07:47.26 | pompomJuice | This is my recipy -> systemd_204.bb -> http://pastebin.com/Wy9WvHcj |
| 07:47.55 | pompomJuice | http://pastebin.com/rafNNKdt -> systemd_208.bb |
| 07:49.10 | pompomJuice | obviously I can just hack it out of that conf file, but I want to do it correctly and I cannot think of a way to remove that preferred_version=208 from the angstrom recipies without damaging the entire system |
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| 07:49.49 | pompomJuice | damage version control to be more spesific |
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| 07:56.21 | pompomJuice | What I can see from the code is this: |
| 07:56.26 | pompomJuice | move 1 is -> # Find the highest priority provider with a PREFERRED_VERSION set |
| 07:56.40 | pompomJuice | move 2 is -> # Find the latest version of the highest priority provider |
| 07:57.14 | pompomJuice | where is this priority it speaks of? Because my preferred version is set in that local.conf that is not inside my lvl 14 priority meta-layer? |
| 07:57.30 | mckoan | hi afournier |
| 07:57.37 | afournier | hi |
| 07:57.46 | mckoan | pompomJuice: actually what is your problem? |
| 07:57.58 | mckoan | pompomJuice: is your recipe ignored? |
| 07:58.01 | pompomJuice | I cannot make bitbake select the 204 version |
| 07:58.04 | pompomJuice | yea |
| 07:58.11 | pompomJuice | when I run it in debug mode |
| 07:58.16 | pompomJuice | it finds the 204,208 |
| 07:58.24 | pompomJuice | but selects the 208 |
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| 07:58.48 | mckoan | pompomJuice: try setting PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd = "204" in your image recipe |
| 07:59.01 | pompomJuice | maybe I should ask this.. where can I put the line PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd inside my meta layer? |
| 07:59.09 | afournier | when running bitbake my environ has both SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK defined, but when it gets to the fetcher those variables are not exported... val = d.getVar('SSH_AGENT_PID', True) returns None, is it normal ? |
| 07:59.14 | koen | pompomJuice: PREFERRED_VERSION is a global var, image recipes can't set global vars |
| 07:59.19 | mckoan | pompomJuice: have you created a new layer? |
| 07:59.23 | pompomJuice | yes |
| 07:59.32 | koen | mckoan: and even if images could, it's a DISTRO setting, which should never to into image recipes |
| 07:59.33 | pompomJuice | one that adds our stuff to the image |
| 07:59.50 | pompomJuice | and that meta-layer contains a directory systemd_204/systemd_204.bb |
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| 08:00.02 | pompomJuice | that meta layer has priority 14 highest of all |
| 08:00.11 | mckoan | pompomJuice: have you added your layer to bblayers.conf? |
| 08:00.20 | pompomJuice | let me check |
| 08:00.33 | mckoan | koen: yep, thx |
| 08:00.52 | pompomJuice | # These layers hold machine specific content, aka Board Support Packages |
| 08:00.52 | pompomJuice | BSPLAYERS ?= " \ |
| 08:00.52 | pompomJuice | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.52 | pompomJuice | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.52 | pompomJuice | " |
| 08:01.02 | pompomJuice | the recipy resides in meta-ctlab |
| 08:01.07 | pompomJuice | our layer |
| 08:01.58 | mckoan | pompomJuice: do you mean BBLAYERS ? is there a typo? |
| 08:02.00 | pompomJuice | that layers adds customization to a standard angstrom image. (older kernel + rowboat + ti ) |
| 08:02.28 | pompomJuice | no type |
| 08:02.32 | pompomJuice | im copy pasting |
| 08:02.44 | mckoan | pompomJuice: maybe Angstrom specific |
| 08:02.54 | pompomJuice | yea it is angstrom spesific |
| 08:02.58 | pompomJuice | because angstrom |
| 08:03.00 | pompomJuice | contains a file |
| 08:03.19 | pompomJuice | that makes it select 208 |
| 08:03.45 | pompomJuice | [09:22] <pompomJuice> meta-angstrom/conf/distro/angstrom-v2012.12.conf contains an entry -> PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd = "208%" |
| 08:04.21 | pompomJuice | I do not understand that part of bitbake |
| 08:04.30 | pompomJuice | what file must I add that overrides that setting? |
| 08:04.40 | mckoan | pompomJuice: so try replacing this line (at distro level) |
| 08:04.57 | pompomJuice | do you mean edit that file? |
| 08:05.30 | mckoan | pompomJuice: yes, just to check if your recipe is selected |
| 08:05.40 | pompomJuice | Yea it does |
| 08:06.00 | pompomJuice | as isaid if you run bitbake in debug mode it show that it finds both recipies, but selects 208 as the winner |
| 08:06.14 | mckoan | pompomJuice: as koen said it's a DISTRO setting, so angstrom-v2012.12.conf is the distro config file |
| 08:06.49 | pompomJuice | koen? I did not see him say anything |
| 08:06.54 | mckoan | pompomJuice: set PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd = "204%" in angstrom-v2012.12.conf |
| 08:06.57 | pompomJuice | let me check since he is the maker |
| 08:07.09 | pompomJuice | ok but where do I put that file? |
| 08:07.22 | mckoan | 10:04 < koen> mckoan: and even if images could, it's a DISTRO setting, which should never to into image recipes |
| 08:07.28 | pompomJuice | I cant edit the file inside the distro becaue then oebb update becomes angry |
| 08:07.58 | pompomJuice | Then I cannot suck in angstrom changes automagically anymore :( |
| 08:08.24 | mckoan | pompomJuice: I don't know I don't use Angstrom |
| 08:08.32 | pompomJuice | ok how do I override the distro config file? |
| 08:08.58 | koen | try local.conf first |
| 08:09.03 | pompomJuice | from inside meta-ctlab, my customizations layer |
| 08:09.07 | koen | then migrate it to your distro layer |
| 08:09.08 | pompomJuice | I dont wanna edit the distro |
| 08:09.25 | pompomJuice | how? sorry im bitbake noob |
| 08:09.31 | pompomJuice | less than 6 month XP with this |
| 08:09.36 | koen | but I'd think that backporting the patches to 2.6.37 would be a better idea for future proofing |
| 08:09.52 | koen | (well, migrating to a newer kernel would be even better, but you mentioned TI silicon) |
| 08:10.25 | pompomJuice | iunfortunately, I inherited a project where they hacked a 2.6.37 to be able to run android on it (since android requires some extra kernel stuff and the kernels were not the same) |
| 08:10.46 | pompomJuice | then they hacked the android |
| 08:10.53 | pompomJuice | then everything got locked in |
| 08:11.01 | pompomJuice | then boss man cannot understand it takes time |
| 08:11.06 | pompomJuice | fires the guy that does all the magic |
| 08:11.09 | pompomJuice | now im stuck with it |
| 08:11.42 | pompomJuice | so yea its working nicely actually |
| 08:11.49 | pompomJuice | I got it upgraded as far I could |
| 08:11.56 | pompomJuice | took it from 1.3 to 1.5 |
| 08:12.08 | pompomJuice | the new angstrom is sweet! |
| 08:12.18 | pompomJuice | major difference between 1.5 and 1.3 |
| 08:12.29 | pompomJuice | our device runs much happier on 1.5 |
| 08:12.54 | pompomJuice | mostly because it now has armhf and mono 3.4 with sgen and lvm |
| 08:12.56 | pompomJuice | lvvm |
| 08:15.18 | pompomJuice | this yocto movement is clearly showing results |
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| 08:17.52 | pompomJuice | ok so I am guess that inside sources/meta-ctlab/conf/ayer.conf is the place those things must be? Not in setup-scripts/conf/local.conf? |
| 08:18.07 | pompomJuice | layer.conf( |
| 08:18.11 | pompomJuice | layer.conf* |
| 08:19.10 | afournier | ok SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK are lost when bitbake executes bitbake-worker |
| 08:20.31 | koen | pompomJuice: try local.conf first, then try migrating it |
| 08:20.43 | koen | pompomJuice: layer ordering and priorities are hard to get right |
| 08:23.04 | pompomJuice | ok that is all I needed to know, since that is what I am trying to do and i have no idea what I am doing. At least now I know that I don't know and it's not trivial |
| 08:23.12 | pompomJuice | il pull some more leavers and see what happens... |
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| 08:31.11 | afournier | adding SSH_AUTH_SOCK and SSH_AGENT_PID in preserved_envvars_exported() fix my problem but i don't think i should fix it like this |
| 08:31.49 | pompomJuice | ok so I copied the distro folder to my own meta-layer/conf but that has no effect. Is that what you mean by "migrate"? |
| 08:37.15 | koen | pompomJuice: no, I meant setting the variable in your layer.conf and then trying to tweak the priority |
| 08:37.19 | afournier | ok the problem was that BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE was lost when i init oe :) fixed ! |
| 08:37.33 | koen | pompomJuice: and you might also need to move it up or down in bblayers.conf |
| 08:37.53 | koen | it usually takes me a few days to figure that out |
| 08:38.00 | koen | like I said, it's not trivial :( |
| 08:38.53 | pompomJuice | yea the tweak inside layer.conf does not work |
| 08:39.02 | pompomJuice | That is why I am here. Usually that works. |
| 08:39.23 | pompomJuice | I presumed that since the tweak does not work it is a bug |
| 08:39.47 | koen | bblayers.conf and angstroms layer.conf are structured to make such overrides hard to do |
| 08:39.54 | pompomJuice | I see |
| 08:40.01 | koen | since in general, it won't be angstrom anymore |
| 08:40.10 | pompomJuice | yea it is not angstrom |
| 08:40.25 | koen | but as you noticed, making changes to make your platform work are also very hard to do outside of local.conf |
| 08:40.33 | pompomJuice | So another soultion might be to just change the value inside the angstrom layer, but how would you suggest I handle version control then? |
| 08:40.41 | koen | I'm open for suggestions to make your use case easier, though |
| 08:40.50 | pompomJuice | ok so it has to be inside that local.conf, gotcha |
| 08:41.01 | pompomJuice | well |
| 08:41.09 | koen | local.conf works 99% of the time for things like this |
| 08:41.26 | pompomJuice | yea I have lots of preferred versions setup |
| 08:41.30 | pompomJuice | its just that one that is jamming |
| 08:41.58 | pompomJuice | ok so you have roughtly explained what levers there are to pull so let me go do that for a while |
| 08:46.17 | mago_ | from OEs perspective, what is the difference between a build-time and a run-time dependency? |
| 08:46.53 | pompomJuice | Well for one it affects in what order things build and if they build concurrently. |
| 08:47.38 | pompomJuice | and whether it does a populate_sysroots before building another package |
| 08:47.55 | pompomJuice | or a setscene |
| 08:47.58 | pompomJuice | or something |
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| 08:51.20 | pompomJuice | Also whomever has to knowlege or power to change this. Bitbake's insane system is to harsh on files that look like libFoo.so ( as supposed to libFoo.so.1 which is handled correctly). Some software such as mono produce just .so files that get shuffled into other foo-dev packages which breaks everything. That rule is to strict! |
| 08:52.02 | pompomJuice | causes a hellova mission |
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| 12:33.44 | pompomJuice | sup noobies |
| 12:33.49 | pompomJuice | I found a workaround |
| 12:34.21 | pompomJuice | or it might be legit since there is no documentation on how to do it correctly |
| 12:34.25 | pompomJuice | so yea it's not a hack |
| 12:35.37 | pompomJuice | inside conf/local.conf change this line to your own located in meta-foo/conf/distro/ angstrom-duo-v2013.12 -> DISTRO = "angstrom-duo-v2013.12" |
| 12:36.24 | pompomJuice | then pupulate angstrom-duo-v2013.12.conf with ... |
| 12:36.29 | pompomJuice | ANGSTROM_BASE = "${TOPDIR}/sources/meta-angstrom" |
| 12:36.29 | pompomJuice | include ${ANGSTROM_BASE}/conf/distro/angstrom-v2013.12.conf |
| 12:36.29 | pompomJuice | PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd = "204" |
| 12:36.31 | pompomJuice | poof it works |
| 12:37.40 | pompomJuice | it even makes sense |
| 12:38.11 | pompomJuice | basically you override the distro stuff like you would append to a recipy.inc file |
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| 12:54.22 | pompomJuice | anyone here have any clue why these files are included in the angstrom git repo -> cache/bb_persist_data.sqlite3 & cache/prserv.sqlite3 |
| 12:54.33 | pompomJuice | those things look like temp files |
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| 14:23.38 | koen | pompomJuice: to keep the PRSERV synced between the autobuilder and users |
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| 14:56.21 | mckoan | mind.it |
| 14:56.31 | mckoan | oops |
| 14:56.58 | mario-goulart | we-dont-mind.it :-) |
| 14:57.06 | mckoan | :-D |
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| 15:37.42 | mago_ | is the linux "perf" tool not supported on ARM v7 Cortex A8? I tried enabling the profiling tools by enabling the image feature "tools-profile", and when I run the "perf" tool on my target, it prints "<not supported> cycles". Is this something I need to enable extra support for in the OE build? E.g tweak the kernel config or whatnot |
| 15:47.30 | nerdboy | moin |
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| 19:40.21 | nerdboy | Crofton: thanks for reminding me i need a new bike... |
| 19:41.00 | Crofton | the proper number of bikes to own is N+1 |
| 19:41.08 | Crofton | where N is the number you currently own |
| 19:41.59 | nerdboy | i'm a gentoo guy, so that would be 2N+1 |
| 19:42.50 | nerdboy | and thanks for letting me crash the party, i had a really good time |
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| 23:29.14 | Crofton | hmm, what version of bitbake to use with daisy |
| 23:33.45 | kergoth | Crofton: pretty sure you want 1.22, but you can always check poky to see what was integrated on its daisy branch |
| 23:34.09 | kergoth | Crofton: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/bitbake/lib/bb/__init__.py?h=daisy#n24 |
| 23:35.28 | Crofton | That should be probably be documented better |
| 23:35.49 | kergoth | Picked up a cheap as dirt nooelec r820t to poke at gnuradio one of these days :) |
| 23:35.56 | kergoth | it would surprise me if it wasn't mentioned in the yocto 1.6 release notes |
| 23:36.02 | Crofton | cool |
| 23:36.34 | kergoth | huh, nope, not in the release notes. that seems like a definite oversight |
| 23:36.38 | kergoth | https://www.yoctoproject.org/download/yocto-project-16 |
| 23:36.52 | kergoth | has the info on the poky version, but the components inside poky |
| 23:36.59 | kergoth | s/but the/but not the/ |
| 23:37.37 | Crofton | no tag in bitbake |
| 23:38.11 | Crofton | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.18 | Crofton | hmm |
| 23:38.35 | Crofton | maybe I forgot to push something at hoime .... |
| 23:45.09 | nerdboy | crofton... |
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| 23:49.32 | paulbarker | kergoth, Crofton: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases |
| 23:49.42 | paulbarker | Only place I know with that info |
| 23:49.56 | kergoth | ah, good call. should still get added to the release notes i think, but that's a useful ilnk |
| 23:49.58 | kergoth | link |
| 23:50.05 | Crofton | dok |
| 23:50.11 | Crofton | I was looking for a bb tag |
| 23:50.44 | kergoth | bitbake only has tags for its own branches and releases, which are version based, not the name-based poky branching/release scheme |
| 23:51.33 | Crofton | I'm working on getting my meta-sdr build switched to daisy branches |
| 23:51.42 | Crofton | starting build testing this week |
| 23:54.01 | kergoth | ah yeah, I just did that with my public layers not too long ago. fun fun |