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| 08:27.24 | mckoan | hi kroon |
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| 08:32.37 | bluelightning | morning all |
| 08:47.08 | mckoan | hi bluelightning |
| 08:47.38 | bluelightning | hi mckoan |
| 09:07.40 | koen | bluelightning: I'm trying to run buildhistory-diff on an OE-built distro ('dora' based) and I get 'NameError: global name 'report_ver' is not defined' |
| 09:08.03 | koen | bluelightning: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-October/085321.html and the backport https://github.com/openembedded/oe-core/commit/a51d96c44e6feac8322284c54bfc01ef598f8821 don't seem to match |
| 09:10.03 | koen | bluelightning: 'git cherry-pick b7de1eaac9eed559b2d68058f5de67de74a6cb58' in the dora branch fixes it for me |
| 09:10.09 | koen | are you seeing the same? |
| 09:10.30 | bluelightning | I don't think I've tried buildhistory-diff on dora recently |
| 09:10.47 | bluelightning | I'll follow up on this with Robert though |
| 09:10.49 | bluelightning | thanks |
| 09:15.22 | koen | I've sent the cherry-pick as patch to the list |
| 09:22.37 | bluelightning | koen: thanks |
| 09:26.18 | koen | IMAGESIZE changed from 15780 to 13448 (-14%) |
| 09:26.20 | koen | \o/ |
| 09:26.30 | koen | still 7MiB too big |
| 09:29.51 | koen | notices his .gitconfig files have the wrong user.email on the work laptop |
| 09:49.49 | XorA | hehe |
| 09:50.27 | XorA | koen: squeezing into flash? |
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| 10:29.20 | koen | XorA: that's the private goal |
| 10:29.42 | koen | XorA: the work related goal is to have a systemd based initramfs that isn't a gazillion megs |
| 10:35.17 | XorA | koen: cool, I non systemd one once, used it for years debugging android devices without needing working mmc drivers |
| 10:35.54 | XorA | so much nicer to boot into a real shell in initramfs than braindead android shell |
| 10:38.03 | koen | I wish I could get a card assigned to integrate dracut properly |
| 10:38.10 | koen | that would save a lot of reinventing the wheel |
| 10:38.25 | XorA | that would be nice |
| 10:38.50 | XorA | I think its essential for LEG BTW ;-) |
| 10:39.37 | koen | it does work currently :) |
| 10:39.40 | koen | but online |
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| 10:43.13 | koen | which incidentally maps quite well to the current way we do tests |
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| 11:03.49 | ant_work | koen: do you plan to add the image to meta-initramfs? |
| 11:04.45 | koen | not sure yet |
| 11:04.59 | ant_work | that layer was not exactly of wider use so I've been thinking to remove it but maybe we could put there the 'small' initramfs frameworks |
| 11:05.15 | XorA | initramfs is a product of distro in my mind |
| 11:05.58 | ant_work | we could not find any better place for klibc |
| 11:06.52 | XorA | must say I just dropped elibc into my initramfs :-) |
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| 14:42.36 | XorA | gah I am out of date with bitbake, how do I force it to actually do a re-compile instead of just re-using old build results? |
| 14:43.05 | bluelightning | XorA: -f -c compile just like the old days... |
| 14:43.30 | bluelightning | XorA: or -C compile to force compile then run through the rest of the tasks for the recipe |
| 14:43.57 | bluelightning | or -c cleansstate to clean the recipe and get rid of sstate for it at the same time |
| 14:44.04 | bluelightning | depends on what you're trying to do really |
| 14:44.28 | XorA | I messed up a kernel build and it has the wrong uImage parameters |
| 14:44.50 | bluelightning | if you're modifying something in the recipe or files referred to in SRC_URI and it's not rebuilding, that's almost certainly a bug |
| 14:45.09 | XorA | no, its the UBOOT_LOADADDR etc vars |
| 14:47.21 | bluelightning | that feeds into the u-boot recipe though right? |
| 14:47.29 | XorA | kernel recipe |
| 14:47.42 | XorA | it may be it did rebuild correctly, and something else insane is happening |
| 14:47.51 | bluelightning | right, the kernel |
| 14:48.08 | bluelightning | from what I can tell it ought to be picking up the dependency on that... |
| 14:48.14 | XorA | my compiled externally kernel boots, one compiled in OE with same defconfig, git repo, SRCREV does not |
| 14:51.23 | koen | would suggest adding bootz support to u-boot and switching to zImage |
| 14:52.04 | XorA | koen: I would if it wasnt a google device with evil vendor trees |
| 14:52.14 | koen | ah |
| 14:52.24 | koen | just ordered a samsung chromebook |
| 14:52.44 | XorA | I have Angstrom running, but only with an externally compiled kernel |
| 14:56.52 | XorA | the only difference I can think of is toolchain |
| 14:57.10 | XorA | ls |
| 14:59.27 | koen | . |
| 14:59.29 | koen | .. |
| 14:59.31 | koen | uImage |
| 15:00.48 | XorA | scp koen/uImage xora/uImage |
| 15:04.08 | XorA | koen: its in meta-exynos now anyway |
| 15:04.33 | koen | I'll have a look on monday when the chromebook arrives :) |
| 15:05.11 | XorA | basically if you compile the same kernel with linaro 2013-10 toolchain and defconfig it works |
| 15:08.07 | koen | hmm, I'm on .11 |
| 15:08.17 | koen | I guess I could update it to something more recent |
| 15:08.32 | XorA | not sure what Angstrom is on |
| 15:08.50 | koen | v2013.12 is using linaro-2013.11 |
| 15:08.53 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: wrt what we were chatting about yesterday, i'm not so sure... i did a "find . -name "*avahi*" -print" after a bitbake avahi, then after a clean, cleanall, and cleansstate cache of avahi |
| 15:08.58 | koen | for arm |
| 15:09.04 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: and there was no change whatsoever in tmp/qemuarm-eglibc/sysroots |
| 15:09.17 | tlwoerner | i don't think any of those targets touches the sysroot |
| 15:09.43 | bluelightning | tlwoerner: they definitely do, it's clean that does it and the others do a clean |
| 15:11.25 | XorA | heh, the launchpad got stuck at 2013.10 |
| 15:13.43 | koen | lp is being phased out |
| 15:13.47 | koen | (much rejoicing) |
| 15:13.56 | XorA | \o/ |
| 15:14.55 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: staging.bbclass, from the comments, appears to clean out the sysroot "if we rerun configure" as a prefunc to do_configure |
| 15:14.59 | tlwoerner | koen: +1 |
| 15:15.33 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: and SYSROOT_DESTDIR is added to the cleandirs for do_populate_sysroot |
| 15:15.49 | bluelightning | tlwoerner: that code path is not what should be at work here |
| 15:17.30 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: do you have a suggestion of where i should be looking? |
| 15:17.56 | bluelightning | tlwoerner: I don't know what's going on but I guess I'm going to have to try it here... remind me which branch is this? |
| 15:18.55 | tlwoerner | master |
| 15:23.34 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: maybe if i explained why i'm doing this it might help? (or lead to a different solution?) |
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| 15:24.28 | bluelightning | tlwoerner: sure, that might be useful, but what you're describing does not match up with my expectations of the system's behaviour |
| 15:24.56 | tlwoerner | while working on JaMa "state of bb world" list, i was doing some world builds |
| 15:25.09 | tlwoerner | my build of gvfs failed because a depends wasn't in place |
| 15:25.39 | tlwoerner | the current DEPENDS list for gvfs is "libsoup-2.4 gnome-keyring glib-2.0 avahi gconf libgphoto2" and i discovered that i needed to add libgnome-keyring |
| 15:25.58 | tlwoerner | so now i'm suspicious of the non-lib gnome-keyring |
| 15:26.16 | tlwoerner | so i wanted to clean out my sysroot of libsoup-2.4 gnome-keyring glib-2.0 avahi gconf libgphoto2 |
| 15:26.33 | tlwoerner | so i could try building up the DEPENDS list for gvfs from scratch |
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| 15:35.42 | challinan | ping |
| 15:35.49 | challinan | duh, wrong window ;) |
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| 16:23.29 | bluelightning | tlwoerner: hmm I've confirmed the behaviour you're seeing |
| 16:23.34 | bluelightning | it seems wrong to me... |
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| 16:31.33 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: okay, thank you for the confirmation |
| 16:32.28 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: i don't have the history that you have so i can't say that it *feels* wrong, but if there were a mechanism to remove a given package/recipe from the sysroot that would be nice |
| 16:33.20 | bluelightning | tlwoerner: as far as I know this should be it |
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| 16:34.15 | tlwoerner | bluelightning: i was looking at staging.bbclass and thought if there were a converse to "sysroot_stage_dir()" it could be useful |
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| 16:36.59 | tlwoerner | it could walk through a package's sysroot-destdir and instead of doing a "find ... | cpio" maybe a "find ... | rm -f"? |
| 16:39.04 | bluelightning | tlwoerner: this is a bug, so I expect it'll be fixed shortly |
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| 16:49.21 | tlwoerner | should i open an issue? |
| 16:50.33 | bluelightning | I think it might be worth doing that; RP is looking at the problem now though FWIW |
| 16:51.28 | tlwoerner | okay. i'll hold off opening an issue |
| 16:54.48 | RP | bluelightning: looks like ss['task'] is getting corrupted, digging... |
| 17:04.56 | RP | tlwoerner: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t2&id=086ea6f6bfdc2ddf7faae32f28743ef2eedcc5e7 |
| 17:05.10 | RP | tlwoerner: the next patch in the tree makes a better job of cleaning things up |
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| 17:06.47 | XorA | gah one thing about OE I hate, I always need a faster machine :-) |
| 17:06.57 | RP | tlwoerner, bluelightning: patches also sent to the list. It will take me a while to test them properly but I'm fairly confident they're right |
| 17:08.17 | tlwoerner | RP: awesome thanks! |
| 17:08.22 | RP | of course I find the parse error after I send the patch :/ |
| 17:09.19 | RP | heh, the code in question is completely broken too. If its not been used for this long, I wonder if we need it :} |
| 17:11.06 | tlwoerner | RP: i would certainly be useful for the use-case i described, and i believe that's a valid activity to want to do (?) |
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| 17:12.13 | RP | tlwoerner: your use case is fine, see my next patch for the code I'm talking about (siteconfig) |
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| 17:42.09 | Crofton | you lot start work to early |
| 17:47.43 | tlwoerner | Crofton: you need to move more to the East :-) |
| 17:49.39 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:49.57 | Crofton | a week from tomorrow |
| 18:15.41 | XorA | koen: the minor changes your linux.inc does to .config is what kills the kernel on Chromebook |
| 18:16.22 | XorA | just copied the .config out back out of OE work/ and into local build |
| 18:18.19 | broonie | bad koen |
| 18:19.16 | XorA | they are not incorrect changes, must expose some bug in the kernel |
| 18:19.32 | XorA | magic Kconfig is always the issue with linux :-( |
| 18:21.29 | XorA | I guess a line by line is needed :-( |
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| 18:39.03 | XorA | WTF does CONFIG_AEABI mean? |
| 18:40.34 | broonie | It's got Kconfig help text :) |
| 18:41.38 | XorA | thats what Im failing for find :-D |
| 18:42.24 | XorA | weirder and weirder |
| 18:43.40 | broonie | arch/arm/Kconfig |
| 18:43.42 | kroon | XorA, google it: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/AEABI.html |
| 18:44.09 | XorA | broonie: yeah found it, could have sworn that used to be called CONFIG_EABI :-) |
| 18:44.48 | broonie | XorA: That was a different thing IIRC. |
| 18:46.32 | moto-timo | anybody know who is handling openembedded.org account requests? |
| 18:48.17 | Crofton | on the wiki? |
| 18:48.37 | moto-timo | correct. JaMa just pinged Khem for me... |
| 18:52.07 | Crofton | I suspect I can do that. I should remember how |
| 18:52.42 | moto-timo | ha |
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| 19:12.17 | tlwoerner | or Jefro |
| 19:15.03 | tlwoerner | RP: are you still available? |
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| 19:54.20 | XorA | goddamit Im getting to old for this OE stuff |
| 19:57.47 | broonie | Leave it to the kids and go back to MMA like the other oldsters. |
| 19:59.51 | XorA | really need to get round to stop being ill and get a new gym :-( |
| 20:00.13 | XorA | kicking people is more enjoyable than code :-) |
| 20:00.28 | broonie | :) |
| 20:01.48 | kergoth | I still, in the back of my mind, wnat to create a bitbake alternative, but the older i get, the harder it gets to find enough motivation for such a project :) |
| 20:03.02 | Crofton | kergoth, I think you have been redesigning bitbake for as long as I have know you |
| 20:03.26 | kergoth | never have found enough motivation to actually make it happen :) |
| 20:03.43 | kergoth | this sounds interesting... meh, i'm going to go kill something in a game instead |
| 20:03.48 | kergoth | </example> |
| 20:03.51 | kergoth | :) |
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| 20:12.16 | XorA | kergoth: thats the trouble of software thats "good enough" :-) |
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| 20:51.53 | kroon | JaMa, hmm, my sstate-cache is still growing after each rebuild I do after updating from master. Ideally, the cache should stay at roughly th same size after sstate cache cleaning, right ? |
| 20:53.31 | JaMa | kroon: check extra-archs param if you aren't missing any |
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| 21:51.48 | kroon | JaMa, i dont think i am |
| 21:53.22 | kroon | ill poke around |
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| 22:36.30 | RP | tlwoerner: I'm back around for a few mins... |
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| 22:50.07 | nerdboy | building a souped up console image for beagleboneblack found another bug |
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| 22:51.50 | moto-timo | nerdboy: what's the bug? |
| 22:52.02 | nerdboy | gpm install fail |
| 22:52.11 | nerdboy | just sent a patch to ml |
| 22:52.29 | moto-timo | ahh yes. Excellent. |
| 22:52.55 | moto-timo | thanks for the gnuplot license fix, BTW |
| 22:53.50 | nerdboy | i normally only see the fails building my own stuff for a couple of arm devices |
| 22:55.01 | nerdboy | er, QA warnings too, but i get a little absorbed trying to get a working image... |
| 22:55.54 | moto-timo | indeed |
| 22:56.24 | nerdboy | have to remind myself to push fixes through the process |
| 22:56.55 | moto-timo | step 1: local commits :) |
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| 23:35.45 | nerdboy | koen: is there a readme on the linux-rt recipe? |
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| 23:51.18 | nerdboy | i take it there's a linux.inc somewhere that goes with that? |