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08:22.54mckoangood morning
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08:47.51Noorhello everybody
08:48.08NoorI am seeing a problem with avahi recipe
08:48.43Noorif we configure or system on systemd then we are suppose to not include sysvinit stuff
08:49.15Noorbut following line in avahi recipe pull sysvinit and friends
08:49.17NoorRDEPENDS_avahi-daemon = "sysvinit-pidof"
08:49.50Noordo you think that this is correct?
08:53.32bluelightningNoor: you'd have to use "git blame" to find out why that was added
08:54.07Noorbluelightning: I was doing that and it was added by 59a08907eafffde664079b9a2068f47131dd3f5d
08:54.18Noor<PROTECTED>
08:54.47bluelightningNoor: are you sure it wasn't added earlier?
08:54.54Noorno specific reason was mentioned
08:55.11Noor+
08:55.11Noor+RDEPENDS_avahi-daemon = "sysvinit-pidof"
08:55.12Noor+
08:55.38Noormay be it was added in the combined recipe
08:55.55Noordigging more
08:57.16NoorYeah it was there in combine recipe as well
08:57.28Noorneed to look into old recipe
09:03.06Noorheh this is really ancient ..... I think above thing was migrated from old openembedded layer
09:03.25Noorcan see RDEPENDS_avahi-daemon += "sysvinit-pido in avahi.inc file present in old openembedded
09:09.01hrwNoor: sysvinit-pidof is just one command
09:09.10hrwNoor: you will not get sysvinit in image
09:18.46Noorhrw: Yeah .... but I was thinking can we stop building sysvinit and its friends when we are building systemd
09:19.09Noorcoz this bring sysvinit recipe to build that full sysvinit-tabs
09:19.16Noorand then chain goes on
09:19.49hrwNoor: pidof is part of sysvinit so it got built
09:20.06hrwNoor: many things are built during build. not every of them ends in an image
09:20.32Noorhrw: yup ... that is true
09:24.57Noorhrw: just noticed that pidof is provided by busybox as well
09:25.07Noorcan we use that one?
09:26.08hrwNoor: no idea
09:26.27hrwNoor: probably yes
09:26.37Noorhrw: OK we will try on our side and it it works fine then send the pull request
09:27.09hrwcool
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10:22.52pevHiya...
10:22.55pevAnyone around?
10:23.17pevI'
10:24.01pevI'm getting confused trying to work out the difference between what look like two OE GIT repos - one on github and one via openembedded.org - can anyone give me a very short summary of their relationships?
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10:31.38florianrefuses to comment on any github fork
10:32.44pevFair enough - I'm not botherered about forking politics but would love to know what the upstream version is...!
10:32.59pevso I can ignore all that sorta guff...
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10:58.01ant_workpev: openembedded.org is overloaded
10:58.20ant_workjust because of this we suggest to clone from github
11:00.44pevHi ant: Thanks for that - if that'
11:01.18pevs the case, why does it look like the contents of both repositories are different though? It's not just a mirror?
11:02.22ant_workthe repos are aligned
11:03.17ant_workmeta-oe: 46354a697  oe-core: 3e1dbabbf33a
11:09.52jackmitchellI'm a little bit confused, what is xuser and why do we need it?
11:10.10jackmitchellI can't seem to find the patches where it was initially brought in to read the background
11:10.27ant_workRootless X is owned by xuser
11:10.53jackmitchellok, so why does Connman depend on xuser, when it's not an X application?
11:11.08jackmitchelland why do I get xuser in my image, when I don't have X11?
11:11.12ant_workintroduced with: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/poky/2011-February/003942.html
11:11.20jackmitchellI assume, it's because I use connman
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11:21.27ant_workheh, yes, conman and xserver-nodm-init are needing xuser
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11:22.49ant_workreading oe-core ML of todfay, it seems there will be another user for conman possibly
11:24.04jackmitchellyeah I've just had a quick chat with Ross about it and it seems something may be done in the future
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13:21.51SynchronEhi everyone
13:23.46bluelightningSynchronE: hello
13:24.18SynchronEi'm looking for a proper MCU to use in this case: a 1-key composite usb-device consisting of a keyboard emulator, that sends keystrokes, configured via (and that's the second part of composite) some interface
13:25.14SynchronEoh ... i'm probably on a wrong channel
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13:27.47bluelightningyeah this channel is for the OpenEmbedded project specifically
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13:50.04zeckehrw: thank you for the hint. the result would be that the 'customer' build still ends up with all the ipks?
13:50.15hrwzecke: yes
13:50.50hrwzecke: but remember to make use of file:// mirror for sstate-cache in customer builds so you will not 'infect' other customers
13:51.08hrwzecke: and I did not tried that yet
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13:54.36zeckehrw: ultimately I would only like to have ipk's i built for this specific customer. but this is more like a wish (e.g. like of everything from the 'base' build is ASSUME_PROVIDED.. without playing that game)
13:55.21hrwzecke: would your customer do builds or do they rely on you?
13:55.44hrwzecke: you will have deploy/ipk/ with base+customer set
13:56.23hrwzecke: but no one stops you from PR += "customer1" or sth like that in customer layers
14:05.28zeckehrw: I will do them for now. I just want to have a more clear separation between what is generic and what is customer specific
14:05.47zeckehrw: I thought about being evil and use PACKAGE_ARCH = "customer1" as sort of bruteforce
14:07.04hrwzecke: ugly
14:07.36hrwzecke: if they would like to do builds then give them sstate-cache from customer build (which will be base+customer probably)
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22:41.46ant_homeJaMa: about TUNE_FEATURES
22:41.49ant_homehttp://pastebin.com/5v6Kzbp3
22:58.54JaMaant_home: and?
22:59.07JaMaTUNE_FEATURES wasn't incorrectly expanded before showing
23:02.57JaMaant_home: see bdce39f22a0e8c8e1cf237322657220e4201077d
23:03.37ant_homeok, it seems strange Distro has *more* packages in the feeds
23:03.51ant_homeI thought you aimed at reducing the nr
23:05.02ant_homeI'll finish the build overnight and verify that
23:05.05ant_homegn
23:18.16bluelightningwill backport that patch to dylan
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