| 00:00.10 | GNUtoo-desktop | I've DISTRO = "" or something like that |
| 00:00.17 | khem | no |
| 00:00.51 | khem | we have removed 4.5 from meta-oe so I wonder how are you still gettin it |
| 00:01.30 | GNUtoo-desktop | because I use denzil |
| 00:02.02 | khem | I am confused |
| 00:02.20 | khem | now it works with which compiler |
| 00:02.48 | GNUtoo-desktop | at work I use denzil branch, with DISTRO="" and some defines in local.conf |
| 00:04.23 | GNUtoo-desktop | it's in toolchain-layer maybe |
| 00:04.26 | bluelightning | night all |
| 00:04.35 | GNUtoo-desktop | I''ve 4.5 in toolchain-layer |
| 00:05.21 | GNUtoo-desktop | khem, indeed it is |
| 00:05.43 | GNUtoo-desktop | ahhh |
| 00:05.47 | GNUtoo-desktop | and I've: |
| 00:06.00 | GNUtoo-desktop | GCCVERSION = "4.5%" |
| 00:06.20 | GNUtoo-desktop | BINUTILSVERSION = "2.20.1" |
| 00:06.29 | GNUtoo-desktop | in local.conf |
| 00:06.36 | GNUtoo-desktop | that's what ericben told me to use |
| 00:06.46 | GNUtoo-desktop | and indeed it might be old and concervative |
| 00:06.57 | GNUtoo-desktop | but it can compile chromium and firefox well |
| 00:07.37 | GNUtoo-desktop | I think his idea was to concentrate on stable stuff |
| 00:07.52 | GNUtoo-desktop | in order to avoid all the master issues I get with firefox and chromium.... |
| 00:08.50 | khem | so it works with 4.5 ? |
| 00:09.36 | GNUtoo-desktop | yes it does |
| 00:10.23 | GNUtoo-desktop | I took the recipes of firefox and chromium compiled with 4.5, installed them on my gta04 rootfs(which was compiled with 4.7) and it worked |
| 00:16.17 | GNUtoo-desktop | khem, so I should build denzil with 4.7? |
| 00:21.04 | khem | yes try with 4.7 |
| 00:21.40 | GNUtoo-desktop | ok |
| 00:21.48 | GNUtoo-desktop | I'll try angstrom with 4.7 |
| 00:21.54 | GNUtoo-desktop | with denzil |
| 00:21.55 | khem | and binutisl 2.22 |
| 00:21.59 | GNUtoo-desktop | ok |
| 00:25.26 | GNUtoo-desktop | khem, what distro to use? poky? |
| 00:25.40 | GNUtoo-desktop | because I will put a compilation to run that night |
| 00:25.52 | GNUtoo-desktop | and I don't want it to fail in the middle because of mismatches |
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| 03:10.08 | Alison_Chaiken | Greetings all. Thanks to nerdboy and vmeson, I got my kernel compiling. |
| 03:11.08 | Alison_Chaiken | I'm still not sure in which file task virtual/kernel is defined. How can I get bitbake to list all the tasks it knows about? Or list its config options? |
| 03:11.16 | Alison_Chaiken | Maybe a verbose dry run is best? |
| 03:12.27 | nerdboy | what do you want to? |
| 03:12.46 | nerdboy | bump the kernel rev or define your own kernel recipe? |
| 03:13.37 | nerdboy | i think my kurobox hard disk is finally dying... |
| 03:14.05 | Alison_Chaiken | nerdboy, I want to know the pathname of all the files the tasks are using. |
| 03:14.27 | Alison_Chaiken | This information seems fundamental, beyond the current task. |
| 03:15.40 | nerdboy | i'd start with `find . -type d -name tasks` and look there |
| 03:16.11 | nerdboy | but i still don't see the point... |
| 03:16.26 | nerdboy | is this quest for information kernel-related? |
| 03:18.02 | nerdboy | tasks are pretty high level |
| 03:18.21 | nerdboy | it least in the arago version we're using... |
| 03:18.36 | Alison_Chaiken | For kernel, yes, and in general. I'm not crazy to want to know how the tool I'm using works, am I? |
| 03:18.58 | nerdboy | in principle, no... |
| 03:20.15 | nerdboy | but in this case i'd spend more time building and working at the package/image level |
| 03:20.56 | nerdboy | get a feel for it first and then delving into the internals will make more sense |
| 03:21.58 | nerdboy | you must have more concrete goals than just satisfying your curiosity? |
| 03:23.17 | Alison_Chaiken | Yes, nerdboy, in addition to satisfying my curiosity, I want to become proficient at using the tool and configuring it at a high level. |
| 03:27.03 | nerdboy | then local.conf and the other conf/[machine|include] files, then package and image recipes |
| 03:28.16 | nerdboy | and depending on where you start (branch/tag wise) and what repo(s) you're using, you may have to fix a few things to get consistent clean builds |
| 03:30.16 | nerdboy | i had to upgrade gstreamer for our build recently back-porting the recipes was actually easier than getting the right stuff in our images... |
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| 04:41.41 | snkt | hello all |
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| 05:46.18 | tasslehoff | morning. I want to insert a couple of folders into my oe-core built rootfs.tar, without messing up permissions. anyone know how to do that? |
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| 07:26.57 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 07:53.00 | stuk_gen | one question...the SRC_URI[md5sum] in the recipes is the sum of the md5 for every files in the SRC_URI? |
| 07:58.53 | tasslehoff | stuk_gen: just for the downloaded tarball (or whatever), not for the patches and files in the openembedded repos |
| 07:59.18 | stuk_gen | tasslehoff: oooh good! |
| 08:00.09 | stuk_gen | tasslehoff: so i have a problem :) i'm trying build a systemd-gnome-image but there isn't on a server the netbase_4.47 |
| 08:00.34 | stuk_gen | so i download the file and calc checksum and put on the SRC_URI[md5sum] of the recipes |
| 08:00.55 | stuk_gen | but every want i run the build...i have an error that said the checksum is bad |
| 08:01.25 | stuk_gen | and everytimes i change the checksum that is display, its change! |
| 08:03.07 | stuk_gen | -.- |
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| 08:03.29 | stuk_gen | f**k my error i haven't create a done file so every times its download the error files |
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| 08:14.49 | ericbutt1rs | puh :( facing same supid problem again building xfce-nm-image http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014376/ |
| 08:15.44 | ericbutt1rs | do_rootfs failed with cannot symlink from .var/vache to volotile/cache |
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| 08:38.38 | bluelightning | morning all |
| 08:40.19 | ericbutt1rs | hi :) |
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| 09:16.39 | ericbutt1rs | bluelightning any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1014376/ |
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| 09:23.55 | bluelightning | ericbutt1rs: not really no I'm afraid |
| 09:27.29 | ericbutt1rs | bluelightning see here: http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/21343/ |
| 09:27.35 | ericbutt1rs | similar problem |
| 09:28.07 | ericbutt1rs | but i can not find the cause for xfce-nm-image |
| 09:28.53 | ericbutt1rs | but i removed CONMANPKGS from xfce-nm-image.bb |
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| 10:05.05 | ericbutt1rs | bluelightning i got a console-image running. i need to run firefox. so i can install with opkg. what do you think is best way? using gpe feeds from /next and xserver-xorg from v2012.05 ? |
| 10:05.29 | bluelightning | ericbutt1rs: mixing feeds is likely to give you pain |
| 10:05.44 | ericbutt1rs | ok.. i need a minimal x11 system |
| 10:06.30 | ericbutt1rs | only firefox controlled by mouse |
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| 10:22.30 | ericbutt1rs | where do i find v2012.xx-core feed? http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=twm |
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| 10:52.53 | slapin | hi, all! How could I using OE-core force some recipe to be built using thumb instruction set? |
| 10:55.11 | ant_work | slapin: look at the tune files. For armv5te thumb interworking is default |
| 10:55.34 | ant_work | then some recipes can disable that and opt for arm code |
| 10:56.43 | ant_work | see e.g. http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/26155/ |
| 10:57.52 | ericbutt1rs | df -h |
| 10:58.53 | slapin | ant_work: I want binary to be built with -mthumb, thumb-interwork allows interoperability of thumb and arm code, not binary in thumb |
| 11:00.50 | ant_work | I meant the site files do set both -mthumb -mthumb-interworking |
| 11:01.18 | ant_work | s/site/tune/ |
| 11:02.17 | ant_work | http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/conf/machine/include/tune-thumb.inc |
| 11:02.40 | ant_work | look at the ones you're using |
| 11:10.53 | ant_work | slapin: now that I look at it, I see arm is the default. Thumb was maybe in Angstrom long ago, can't remember. |
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| 11:34.10 | slapin | ant_work: I want a list of recipes to be built with thumb. with classic, it was possible, with ARM_INSTRUCTION_SET_pn-foo = "thumb", is it possible with oe-core? |
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| 12:22.25 | ant_work | slapin: I'd say yes, why not? |
| 12:25.31 | slapin | ant_work: what does _pn-foo mean, is it package or recipe name? |
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| 12:28.47 | ant_work | slapin: irc _pn is only appropriate in global configurations (e.g. distro config) |
| 12:29.52 | slapin | ant_work: local.conf? |
| 12:30.15 | ant_work | yes, local.conf is fine |
| 12:30.45 | ant_work | this is rather obscure override |
| 12:31.02 | slapin | ant_work: is it package name or recipe name? |
| 12:31.33 | ant_work | found! pls look at this thread: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2010-July/022114.html |
| 12:33.06 | slapin | so it is the same as ${PN}, so it is recipe name, thanks! |
| 12:33.46 | ant_work | yes, package name |
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| 13:00.41 | tasslehoff | added gpg to my image, but have problems decrypting a file with a passphrase. http://pastebin.com/VLJnaD9R |
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| 16:14.34 | awozniak | bitbake -c devshell is failing for me. Here's the error: | (gnome-terminal:24456): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: No GSettings schemas are installed on the system |
| 16:14.39 | awozniak | Anyone have any clues for me. |
| 16:14.43 | awozniak | ? |
| 16:30.28 | bluelightning | awozniak: hmm, I wonder if theres an environment variable that gnome-terminal expects to be set that we're not letting through... |
| 16:31.18 | awozniak | this is after upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I think I've seen it before, but I forgot how I worked around it last time. |
| 16:31.51 | awozniak | I can run this just fine from the command line: gnome-terminal --disable-factory -t 'Bitbake Developer Shell' |
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| 16:56.08 | GNUtoo-desktop | khem, hi |
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| 16:56.45 | awozniak | bluelightning: any clues which env variables? =) |
| 16:58.06 | bluelightning | awozniak: I'm not sure I'm afraid, I don't use gnome-terminal... but odds are it's something beginning GNOME or GTK if it is that |
| 16:58.52 | bluelightning | awozniak: you could try clearing them to see if you could reproduce the failure running outside of a build |
| 16:59.25 | awozniak | Tried that already with GNOME_* env vars (there are only three). No Joy. Trying now with GTK_MODULES (the only GTK_* var I have) |
| 17:00.17 | awozniak | no joy unsetting GTK_MODULES either |
| 17:00.27 | awozniak | can't get the same failure |
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| 17:09.13 | bluelightning | awozniak: hmm, well I'm not sure what would make it fail other than the environment being different |
| 17:09.51 | bluelightning | awozniak: if it helps at all, you can set OE_TERMINAL to use a different terminal application |
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| 17:16.32 | cboyd | i am trying to build the lzo package from openembedded using gcc 4.5 and eglibc 2.10. However, the build fails with a series of messages: Error: offset out of range. Does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 17:17.12 | GNUtoo-desktop | khem, ping me when you're available |
| 17:17.27 | GNUtoo-desktop | in the meantime I'll try to narrow more the issue |
| 17:19.05 | khem | GNUtoo-desktop: whats up |
| 17:19.07 | khem | I am here |
| 17:19.16 | khem | for sometime |
| 17:19.23 | GNUtoo-desktop | I've strange results |
| 17:19.31 | GNUtoo-desktop | I built denzil with angstrom and that patch: |
| 17:19.34 | khem | hmm |
| 17:19.37 | khem | ok |
| 17:20.22 | GNUtoo-desktop | http://pastie.org/private/apwia3hzculcuvci5iuxmq |
| 17:20.38 | GNUtoo-desktop | normally it should have used gcc 4.7 |
| 17:20.42 | GNUtoo-desktop | I'll verify that |
| 17:20.48 | GNUtoo-desktop | but it worked with gcc 4.7 |
| 17:21.00 | GNUtoo-desktop | I mean firefox and chromium ran |
| 17:21.04 | khem | ok |
| 17:21.06 | GNUtoo-desktop | *ran fine |
| 17:21.09 | khem | so you are all set |
| 17:21.11 | GNUtoo-desktop | I'm now checking something |
| 17:21.13 | GNUtoo-desktop | no |
| 17:21.23 | GNUtoo-desktop | in SHR we don't use denzil |
| 17:21.24 | GNUtoo-desktop | but master |
| 17:21.28 | khem | ok |
| 17:21.36 | GNUtoo-desktop | you told me to use gcc 4.7 with denzil to make a test |
| 17:21.53 | khem | gcc 4.7 is not in denzil at all |
| 17:21.58 | khem | did you backport it to denzil |
| 17:22.23 | GNUtoo-desktop | let me look |
| 17:22.37 | GNUtoo-desktop | I've a toolchain-layer |
| 17:22.47 | GNUtoo-desktop | in meta-oe |
| 17:22.53 | GNUtoo-desktop | also look at my diff |
| 17:23.01 | GNUtoo-desktop | *the pastie |
| 17:23.39 | khem | ok. is that diff with angstrom ? |
| 17:23.46 | GNUtoo-desktop | yes |
| 17:23.55 | khem | I think easiest is that you check the output of bitabke -g <image> |
| 17:24.04 | khem | to see which recipe it picked for gcc cross |
| 17:24.22 | khem | angstrom uses yet another variable to pin compiler |
| 17:24.49 | khem | OE-Core uses GCCVERSION |
| 17:24.55 | GNUtoo-desktop | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc (GCC) 4.5.4 20120305 (prerelease) |
| 17:24.58 | GNUtoo-desktop | indeed you're right |
| 17:24.59 | khem | and angstrom uses ANGSTROMGCCVERSION or somesuch |
| 17:25.19 | khem | so it works ok with gcc 4.5 atleast now we know that |
| 17:25.33 | GNUtoo-desktop | yes we already knew yesterday |
| 17:34.36 | GNUtoo-desktop | khem, now I try angstrom-denzil with 4.7? |
| 17:35.10 | khem | well, I think what I would like is if you can reproduce it say on oe-core+meta-browser |
| 17:35.23 | khem | that way we eliminate a lot of layers |
| 17:35.43 | khem | and we still have gcc 4.6 in OE-Core so we can then try once with 4.6 and once with 4.7 |
| 17:35.53 | khem | and make sure that its just gcc thats causing it |
| 17:36.29 | GNUtoo-desktop | khem, meta-browser depends on a lot more than just oe-core |
| 17:36.41 | khem | GNUtoo-desktop: ok what does it depend on |
| 17:36.46 | khem | add those layers too |
| 17:36.54 | khem | I mean have minimal changes |
| 17:37.29 | khem | once thing I want to make sure is that master has changed far and more than gcc |
| 17:37.36 | khem | and its not something else |
| 17:37.47 | khem | lot of packages are upgraded that can impact too |
| 17:38.18 | GNUtoo-desktop | I tried using the same rootfs |
| 17:38.29 | GNUtoo-desktop | and just using the firefox or chromium package |
| 17:38.35 | khem | ok |
| 17:38.38 | khem | and what was the result |
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| 17:39.00 | GNUtoo-desktop | firefox+chromium only worked when buit with denzil |
| 17:39.07 | GNUtoo-desktop | that is to saay gcc 4.6 |
| 17:39.36 | GNUtoo-desktop | beside it's clear that it's the compiler in chromium and firefox cases |
| 17:39.44 | GNUtoo-desktop | the backtraces prooves it |
| 17:39.54 | GNUtoo-desktop | _init() is only in the compiler |
| 17:40.04 | GNUtoo-desktop | and the javascript trampoline stuff was in firefox |
| 17:40.07 | GNUtoo-desktop | not in some lib |
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| 17:42.12 | khem | ok can you try using gcc-4.6 on the setup you have ? |
| 17:43.23 | khem | set ANGSTROM_GCC_VERSION = "4.6%" in your local.conf |
| 17:43.32 | khem | and see if it still works |
| 17:43.48 | khem | in the same setup where it failed when using gcc 4.7 |
| 17:43.52 | GNUtoo-desktop | ok |
| 17:44.01 | GNUtoo-desktop | I located where ANGSTRIOM_GCC_VERSION is |
| 17:44.07 | GNUtoo-desktop | and it doesn't use a % |
| 17:44.12 | GNUtoo-desktop | but I'll use 4.6 |
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| 17:45.20 | GNUtoo-desktop | thanks a lot I'll do that |
| 17:45.25 | GNUtoo-desktop | and try the result |
| 17:50.33 | khem | ok it does not hurt to use % btw |
| 17:51.56 | GNUtoo-desktop | what's the % for? |
| 17:52.00 | GNUtoo-desktop | like a wildcard? |
| 17:53.25 | khem | yes |
| 17:53.49 | GNUtoo-desktop | ok |
| 17:55.15 | GNUtoo-desktop | it'll take a long time for testing tough |
| 17:55.28 | GNUtoo-desktop | because I'm already compiling chromium to do a test |
| 17:56.02 | GNUtoo-desktop | because I didn't pay attention to the hash in the file for fetching the layers |
| 17:56.09 | GNUtoo-desktop | but it's an old version of meta-browser |
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| 18:56.15 | otavio | how can i build a meta-toolchain that has more then one possible target arch? |
| 19:05.59 | ccssnet | otavio: you a project manager? |
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| 19:14.23 | Alison_Chaiken | Here's the answer to my repeated question as to how to tell where tasks are defined: |
| 19:14.51 | Alison_Chaiken | "bitbake -e virtual/kernel | grep virtual | grep kernel" |
| 19:15.39 | Alison_Chaiken | And here's the answer to my question, how can I tell which directory to put a modified linux.config into for kernel rebuild? |
| 19:16.01 | khem | otavio: more than 1 arch ? |
| 19:16.03 | Alison_Chaiken | Answer: "bitbake -e virtual/kernel | grep -e ^S=" |
| 19:16.16 | Alison_Chaiken | Thanks to challinan for the answer on different channel. |
| 19:16.24 | otavio | ccssnet: yes, I am |
| 19:16.29 | khem | otavio: you can build multiple meta-toolchains and install them on same machine |
| 19:16.31 | otavio | khem: yes |
| 19:16.43 | Alison_Chaiken | I was gonig to ask khem at his upcoming talk, but now he's off the hook. |
| 19:16.44 | otavio | khem: but it can't be done at same time? |
| 19:17.24 | khem | otavio: prolly not |
| 19:17.40 | khem | Alison_Chaiken: bitbake -e is like preprocessed output |
| 19:17.48 | Jay7 | in different dir's :) |
| 19:17.49 | challinan | of course, as advised, using a modified defconfig in your kernel recipe is not the "right" way ;) |
| 19:17.53 | khem | you can redirect it to a file |
| 19:17.55 | Jay7 | by different bb's :) |
| 19:18.05 | ccssnet | otavio: depends on computer resources for same time |
| 19:18.07 | khem | challinan: howdy |
| 19:18.18 | khem | is your dell netbook behaving now :) |
| 19:18.18 | challinan | hey khem, how's it going! |
| 19:18.29 | khem | so far so good. |
| 19:18.36 | challinan | yup, running a poky-derived sato image!! |
| 19:18.44 | khem | oh wow |
| 19:18.50 | khem | thats nice |
| 19:19.02 | challinan | based on MACHINE=emenlow from meta-intel |
| 19:19.03 | khem | what do you use for graphics |
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| 19:19.23 | khem | I have a USB install of atom based image for my acer machine |
| 19:19.24 | challinan | i built 'core-image-sato' and it Just Worked(TM) |
| 19:19.29 | khem | yeah |
| 19:19.54 | khem | I am more interested in getting KDE/OE up on the machine |
| 19:20.23 | kergoth | anyone hitting 'attr' build failures? oddly, in make install it's failing to find libattr.lai |
| 19:20.24 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:20.43 | challinan | khem: it's certainly doable, just much more work ;) |
| 19:20.58 | khem | Alison_Chaiken: if you are using linux-yocto then the way to define your additions to defconfig |
| 19:21.02 | khem | is different |
| 19:21.12 | Alison_Chaiken | I'm still using bitbake. |
| 19:21.15 | khem | there is document on yocto website |
| 19:21.19 | challinan | khem: I want 2 more apps on my dell: firefox and skype and I'm happy |
| 19:21.31 | khem | challinan: ah, |
| 19:21.44 | khem | then you should look into layering meta-browser |
| 19:21.50 | Alison_Chaiken | I should modify the kernel-building recipe (.bb) file then to point to the .config I want, in my own directory somewhere? |
| 19:22.09 | Alison_Chaiken | Good luck with the skype, challinan. |
| 19:22.22 | Alison_Chaiken | Maybe steve ballmer is listening on here and will help. |
| 19:22.23 | challinan | khem: I built firefox successfully from meta-mozilla, but haven't tried it on the target yet. no time |
| 19:23.06 | khem | challinan: ok btw. meta-mozilla is merged into meta-browser now |
| 19:23.15 | challinan | Alison_Chaiken: it's a great portable skype platform, but I've never had success with it under ubuntu that came with the machine |
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| 19:23.40 | challinan | khem: ah, ok. things move fast, this was just a couple weeks ago ;) |
| 19:23.46 | ccssnet | otavio: check pm |
| 19:23.50 | otavio | challinan: use meta-browser |
| 19:24.00 | challinan | otavio, thanks |
| 19:24.12 | challinan | also wants to play with webkit |
| 19:26.28 | khem | challinan: yeah, I have kde based images built few weeks ago |
| 19:26.41 | khem | with webkit+chromium |
| 19:26.50 | khem | but did nothin with it yet |
| 19:26.53 | challinan | khem: nice! so I know who to ask ;) |
| 19:27.24 | khem | challinan: it was for arm arch though |
| 19:27.30 | khem | I need to try it on beaglebone |
| 19:27.33 | khem | if I can |
| 19:27.43 | Alison_Chaiken | qtwebkit2 with WebGL and HTML5. I was amazed at how short HTML5 files have fast, seamless integrated videos. |
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| 19:28.09 | khem | Alison_Chaiken: yes html5 amazes me |
| 19:28.49 | challinan | the little brown truck just delivered my beaglebone - LCD panel right behind it |
| 19:29.54 | khem | challinan: hmm, I use vnc |
| 19:29.58 | khem | got no LCD |
| 19:31.20 | challinan | likes vnc |
| 19:31.23 | challinan | my old server/firewall uses vnc and enlightenment |
| 19:33.46 | Alison_Chaiken | enlightenment! A #tizen mole. |
| 19:35.51 | ccssnet | o no! a ptxdist mole |
| 19:36.07 | ccssnet | gasp... a buildroot mole |
| 19:36.35 | ccssnet | points at 20 more source distros |
| 19:37.25 | dm8tbr | calls the pest-control emergency number |
| 19:38.24 | Alison_Chaiken | bitbake -c virtual/enemieslist |
| 19:40.50 | Alison_Chaiken | Ah, bitbake -c *clean* virtual/enemieslist. |
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| 19:40.59 | Alison_Chaiken | No wonder I can never get anything to work, even jokes. |
| 19:42.15 | ccssnet | pokes the joke |
| 19:43.12 | ccssnet | they where good |
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| 21:33.38 | fray | I just noticed, none of the PowerPC executables produced by OE-core as pic.. they all appear to be non-pic |
| 21:34.15 | fray | I'm not sure why this is, all of the libraries though do appear to be pic.. so I'm wondering if the wrong crtbegin.o is being users, or if it's something more confusing then that |
| 21:34.28 | fray | Anyone have enough compiler knowledge to help me figure out what is wrong? |
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