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| 06:27.23 | Marex | ao2: morning :) |
| 06:27.48 | ao2 | hi Marex, what's up? |
| 06:29.18 | Marex | ao2: cramming for the exam ... still the same |
| 06:29.47 | Marex | ao2: I fixed a few bugs in the kernel, but did no real progress otherwise, thanks for asking :) |
| 06:30.17 | Marex | ao2: ah ... and I probably got myself a padawan :b |
| 06:30.25 | Marex | ao2: how does it look at your end ? how's openezx going ? |
| 06:30.44 | ao2 | Marex, what exam if, I can? |
| 06:32.00 | Marex | ao2: ah ... the final one (exam of doom) so I can get my degree ... I dunno how exactly that is called |
| 06:32.26 | ao2 | openezx is pretty still, I need to find some time for it again. |
| 06:32.27 | Marex | ao2: but this is only for the degree you get after three years of study ... the bachelor's degree, you know |
| 06:33.35 | Marex | ao2: or maybe switch to a better hardware .... like iMX5 |
| 06:34.06 | Marex | ao2: I'm thinking of giving up on pxa soon and moving forward to something newer ... though I dunno what exactly I should go for ... iMX looks nice, but so does OMAP |
| 06:34.41 | Marex | I just want to play with something that's armv7 for a bit :) |
| 06:36.22 | ao2 | Marex, if you are looking for a phone project, Laf0rge is now playing with Galaxy S (GT-I9000), he says it is reasonably open and source is availale even if not in mainline linux. Cortex-A8 I think |
| 06:37.04 | Marex | Isn't that android though ? |
| 06:37.15 | ao2 | yes, but you can change that :) |
| 06:37.20 | Marex | I prefer devboards recently ... they are more interesting :) |
| 06:37.25 | ao2 | I see |
| 06:37.25 | Marex | ao2: yea ... and it has qualcrap CPU |
| 06:37.38 | ao2 | ah ah, qualcrap is funny |
| 06:37.48 | Marex | naw ... it's not ... |
| 06:37.51 | Marex | damn |
| 06:37.59 | Marex | it's possibly even contagious ... |
| 06:38.10 | Marex | ao2: you'll get sick saying "qualcrap" too often :) |
| 06:38.30 | Marex | the CPU is totally ... utterly ... aaargh |
| 06:38.39 | Marex | and there are no docs, which sucks |
| 06:38.45 | ao2 | you end up saying it even when not appropriate, don't you? |
| 06:40.09 | ao2 | ah, you were still talking about the actual CPU when I was just referring to the word... |
| 06:40.47 | Marex | ao2: yea ... I tend to mistake comm and crap very often when it's prefixed with qual- :) |
| 06:41.14 | Marex | ao2: it's not just the CPU, it's also the fscked up corporate policy they have ... |
| 06:41.28 | Marex | they can really compete with marvell and the likes there |
| 06:41.54 | Marex | ao2: did I tell you about how I fought marvell and their NDA policy ? :) |
| 06:45.53 | ao2 | Marex, I don't think I know your adventures in Marvell-land |
| 06:47.09 | ao2 | about openpxa? |
| 06:48.34 | Marex | ao2: yea ... pretty much about that |
| 06:49.08 | Marex | ao2: there's still one document concerning pxa3xx that's not public ... and that one has like 250 pages and describes various ways to boot the CPU, it's security features etc |
| 06:50.28 | Marex | ao2: and that one's NDAed ... I managed to get myself the NDA document, but after reading it (it's NDAed itself so I can't publish the contents of it), I refused to sign it |
| 06:50.38 | Marex | ao2: it's totally Open-Source hostile crap |
| 06:51.12 | ao2 | I believe you :| |
| 06:51.33 | Marex | ao2: if they could, they'd prohibit you to even breathe near their NDAed document ... |
| 06:51.53 | Marex | you know ... so your breath wont blow around electrons from their NDAed document :b |
| 06:54.08 | Marex | ao2: well ... the NDA was specially forged for me I assume, and it was meant to help the Open Source project (openpxa) ... but after talking to the marvell dude about parts of the NDA, that were open-source hostile, I pretty much figured they dont know what "open source" means ... or I dunno |
| 06:54.44 | Marex | the NDA would be useless if I couldn't release the code ... what were they thinking, really |
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| 19:22.42 | gnutoo | vanous, what's gnome-commons |
| 19:23.15 | vanous | i don't know, i guess they set up the environment via that... |
| 19:23.17 | gnutoo | because you appear to need it |
| 19:23.26 | vanous | for the latest version :/ |
| 19:23.28 | vanous | yup |
| 19:23.31 | gnutoo | gnome-commons export m4 macros |
| 19:23.42 | gnutoo | which are used in the app you want to package |
| 19:23.46 | gnutoo | there is a recipe in oe |
| 19:23.51 | gnutoo | for gnome-commons |
| 19:23.57 | vanous | but that is for the snv version |
| 19:24.00 | vanous | oh |
| 19:24.04 | vanous | you mean gnome-commons |
| 19:24.07 | vanous | well |
| 19:24.16 | vanous | thats doable if it builds then |
| 19:24.56 | gnutoo | did you try that: |
| 19:25.02 | gnutoo | bitbake gnome-common-native? |
| 19:25.14 | vanous | trying now |
| 19:26.12 | gnutoo | vanous, no |
| 19:26.14 | gnutoo | try that: |
| 19:26.17 | gnutoo | inherit gnome |
| 19:26.24 | gnutoo | s/gnome/gnomebase |
| 19:26.32 | gnutoo | oops |
| 19:26.34 | gnutoo | gnome |
| 19:26.58 | vanous | hmm, i have gnome-common |
| 19:27.05 | vanous | building |
| 19:27.12 | vanous | oh done |
| 19:27.22 | vanous | so you mean inherit in the recipe for tmut? |
| 19:28.02 | gnutoo | yes |
| 19:28.06 | vanous | ok |
| 19:28.11 | gnutoo | by done you mean? |
| 19:28.23 | vanous | gnome-common built |
| 19:28.32 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:30.58 | gnutoo | let me try something |
| 19:31.16 | gnutoo | look at gnome-screensaver btw |
| 19:31.53 | vanous | has inherit gnome, ok |
| 19:37.38 | gnutoo | autoreconf --install worked |
| 19:37.52 | gnutoo | but configure failed because of the lack of tinymail |
| 19:38.09 | vanous | so |
| 19:38.30 | gnutoo | which libtinymail should I bitbake |
| 19:38.31 | gnutoo | ? |
| 19:38.37 | vanous | you can run this in the devshell directly, or did you tweak the recipe? |
| 19:38.38 | gnutoo | I'll try and see |
| 19:38.43 | gnutoo | devshell |
| 19:38.46 | vanous | i am not sure |
| 19:38.50 | vanous | i would try latest from git |
| 19:38.55 | vanous | gitorious |
| 19:38.59 | vanous | devshell... ok |
| 19:39.10 | gnutoo | hmmm where was your failure? |
| 19:39.12 | vanous | as i was now struggling with recipe again |
| 19:39.25 | vanous | which is where i stopped last night too |
| 19:39.26 | gnutoo | pastebin your recipe |
| 19:39.36 | gnutoo | but at what point did it fail? |
| 19:39.38 | gnutoo | configure? |
| 19:39.41 | vanous | no |
| 19:39.44 | gnutoo | before(autotools) |
| 19:39.45 | vanous | still unpack |
| 19:39.51 | vanous | :) |
| 19:39.53 | gnutoo | unpack? |
| 19:39.54 | gnutoo | strange |
| 19:40.00 | gnutoo | pastebin your recipe |
| 19:40.08 | vanous | i am a begginer, you know... |
| 19:40.11 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:40.27 | gnutoo | when I started I was a begginer too |
| 19:41.14 | gnutoo | basically I started wanted to make my own distro for a 2.4 kenrel and it was too difficult so I abandoned, then I bought the freerunner and wanted wesnoth |
| 19:41.17 | gnutoo | and I succedded |
| 19:41.21 | gnutoo | and made other games |
| 19:41.29 | gnutoo | s/wesnoth/recent wesnoth |
| 19:41.31 | vanous | http://pastebin.com/6zR6xZ8d |
| 19:41.33 | gnutoo | s/made/ported |
| 19:41.34 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:41.44 | gnutoo | and at the end I got commit access |
| 19:41.50 | vanous | nice |
| 19:42.04 | gnutoo | let me look |
| 19:42.07 | vanous | NOTE: Task failed: Unknown fetch Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/SHR/shr-unstable/downloads/git_gitorious.org.tinymail.tinymail.git_895eba8791f3ceb632605a7f6e16422b7db387ca.tar.gz' |
| 19:42.31 | vanous | i got that part working yesterday |
| 19:42.33 | gnutoo | inherit autotools |
| 19:42.33 | gnutoo | ??? |
| 19:42.38 | vanous | huh |
| 19:42.43 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:42.53 | gnutoo | it's complicated to make a recipe for local stuff |
| 19:42.57 | gnutoo | it's doable but complicated |
| 19:43.05 | gnutoo | so point it to git |
| 19:43.12 | gnutoo | let me look |
| 19:43.33 | gnutoo | what's the name of the recipe |
| 19:43.42 | vanous | tmutpetr.bb |
| 19:44.00 | gnutoo | that's wrong |
| 19:44.06 | gnutoo | tmutpetr_git.bb |
| 19:44.10 | vanous | oh, so the name also depends... |
| 19:44.12 | gnutoo | you must have a version |
| 19:44.24 | gnutoo | did you read the manual btw? |
| 19:44.28 | gnutoo | or part of it? |
| 19:44.34 | vanous | i looke d around cople of times... |
| 19:44.59 | vanous | sp PV and PR are also required... |
| 19:45.04 | vanous | *so |
| 19:45.07 | gnutoo | hmmm |
| 19:45.16 | gnutoo | files libtinymail-0.0.1 libtinymail_0.0.1.bb libtinymail_0.0.3.bb libtinymail_0.0.5.bb libtinymail.inc libtinymail_svn.bb tmut tmut_1.1.0.bb tmut_svn.bb |
| 19:45.22 | gnutoo | I've that in tinymail's dir |
| 19:45.32 | vanous | me too |
| 19:45.36 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:45.36 | vanous | and that builds |
| 19:45.47 | gnutoo | so you want just the git version |
| 19:46.05 | vanous | well, the recipe is for an ooold release |
| 19:46.18 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:46.21 | vanous | the svn doesn't even reply anymore i guess... |
| 19:46.25 | vanous | it |
| 19:46.27 | gnutoo | then first thing |
| 19:46.34 | gnutoo | don't start from scratch |
| 19:46.37 | gnutoo | take the old recipe |
| 19:46.39 | gnutoo | and modify it |
| 19:46.52 | vanous | ok |
| 19:47.13 | gnutoo | it has some interesting stuff and knowledge about your app |
| 19:47.26 | gnutoo | and remove that: |
| 19:47.29 | gnutoo | DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" |
| 19:47.33 | vanous | ok |
| 19:47.42 | vanous | and i also rename to _git ? |
| 19:47.43 | gnutoo | if it build |
| 19:47.50 | gnutoo | not sure |
| 19:47.53 | vanous | k |
| 19:48.02 | gnutoo | you will have issues with people wanting to keep old recipes |
| 19:48.11 | gnutoo | hmmm |
| 19:48.14 | gnutoo | do: |
| 19:48.33 | gnutoo | cp tmut_svn.bb tmut_git.bb |
| 19:48.42 | vanous | yup |
| 19:48.43 | gnutoo | and modify tmut_git.bb |
| 19:48.43 | vanous | well |
| 19:48.44 | gnutoo | and when you send it |
| 19:48.46 | vanous | perhaps |
| 19:48.52 | vanous | i should start with tinymail? |
| 19:48.54 | gnutoo | ask if tmut_svn should be removed |
| 19:48.58 | vanous | ok |
| 19:49.01 | vanous | understand |
| 19:49.13 | gnutoo | I'd like to understand |
| 19:49.27 | gnutoo | tmut_git depends on a recent tinymail? |
| 19:49.30 | gnutoo | if so yes |
| 19:49.47 | vanous | well, i can see plenty of branches in tinymail |
| 19:49.55 | vanous | perhaps i have to try or ask... |
| 19:49.55 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:50.18 | gnutoo | btw it's hot here(small room) so I may make errors |
| 19:50.46 | gnutoo | like gnome->gnomebase->gnome |
| 19:50.54 | vanous | np |
| 19:51.16 | gnutoo | it's that or hearing the tv which prevent me to think |
| 19:51.31 | gnutoo | *earing |
| 19:53.22 | gnutoo | vanous, tmut is a mail client? |
| 19:53.31 | vanous | yes, looks very interesting |
| 19:53.37 | vanous | finger friendly |
| 19:53.37 | gnutoo | wow!!! |
| 19:53.43 | gnutoo | I want it then |
| 19:53.53 | vanous | see this |
| 19:53.54 | vanous | http://tinymail.org/trac/tmut |
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| 19:54.28 | gnutoo | wow the gif animation |
| 19:54.43 | vanous | it is default mail client in maemo iirc |
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| 19:55.05 | gnutoo | let's do it together then(don't worrry you'll get the due credit) |
| 19:55.19 | gnutoo | so does it need recent libtinymail? |
| 19:55.28 | vanous | i am sure |
| 19:55.34 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:55.35 | vanous | the old recipe builds |
| 19:55.37 | vanous | it all runs |
| 19:55.38 | gnutoo | I'll try with the old one |
| 19:55.43 | gnutoo | ah ok |
| 19:55.43 | vanous | but doesn't connect to server |
| 19:55.46 | vanous | try |
| 19:55.47 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:55.52 | vanous | see how to config |
| 19:55.55 | gnutoo | then let's add recent libtinymail |
| 19:56.29 | vanous | it's at the bottom of the page, with gconf |
| 19:56.37 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:56.44 | gnutoo | you know all this stuff better than me |
| 19:56.44 | vanous | but i tried to see with wireshark and it doesn't send anything... |
| 19:56.49 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:56.57 | gnutoo | I'll try |
| 19:57.00 | vanous | perhaps i missed something... |
| 19:57.02 | vanous | op |
| 19:57.03 | vanous | do |
| 19:57.05 | vanous | please |
| 19:57.37 | gnutoo | ok |
| 19:58.03 | gnutoo | while it's bitbaking try to do the recipes |
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| 20:14.45 | gnutoo | vanous, I don't understand how it works |
| 20:14.52 | gnutoo | I created the account and... |
| 20:14.55 | gnutoo | what next |
| 20:16.41 | vanous | well |
| 20:16.44 | vanous | this is the problem... |
| 20:16.46 | vanous | run tmut |
| 20:16.48 | gnutoo | read(3, 0x2cfd4, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 20:16.48 | gnutoo | ??? |
| 20:17.03 | vanous | havnt tried with strace yet |
| 20:17.17 | gnutoo | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Sep 5 22:16 3 -> socket:[3190] |
| 20:18.25 | vanous | hmm |
| 20:18.35 | vanous | what about the gconf...? |
| 20:18.43 | vanous | does it have to be running? |
| 20:18.47 | vanous | but i guess not |
| 20:19.34 | gnutoo | http://pastebin.com/ktgAT6Y1 |
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| 20:19.43 | gnutoo | maybe |
| 20:19.53 | vanous | hmm |
| 20:20.02 | vanous | by default, it uses imap and ssl |
| 20:20.23 | gnutoo | mdbus2 org.gnome.GConf / |
| 20:20.32 | gnutoo | good point |
| 20:20.37 | gnutoo | I bet it doesn't find the config |
| 20:20.49 | vanous | hmm |
| 20:21.01 | gnutoo | look on top right |
| 20:21.02 | vanous | i must, as it shows the account here, i mean in the list |
| 20:21.06 | gnutoo | that thing should work |
| 20:21.09 | gnutoo | not here |
| 20:21.17 | vanous | i see |
| 20:22.01 | vanous | and i don't have org.gnome either |
| 20:22.17 | vanous | i do get that selector, but upon clicking nothing |
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| 20:23.00 | gnutoo | No value set for `/apps/tinymail/accounts/count' |
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| 20:23.01 | gnutoo | hmmm |
| 20:23.08 | gnutoo | ok |
| 20:23.12 | gnutoo | same problem here |
| 20:23.13 | gnutoo | it's there |
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| 20:23.15 | vanous | did you run the very first one too? |
| 20:23.18 | gnutoo | but does not react to clicks |
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| 20:23.23 | gnutoo | I bitbaken the oe one |
| 20:23.23 | vanous | oh |
| 20:23.24 | vanous | ok |
| 20:23.28 | vanous | yes |
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| 20:23.46 | vanous | so you can see the account in the list but upon click nothing happens... |
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| 20:24.20 | vanous | but if it worked... :) looks good to me :) |
| 20:25.08 | vanous | look here |
| 20:25.09 | vanous | http://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/tags/freerunner/ |
| 20:25.14 | vanous | totally different config |
| 20:25.36 | vanous | but i think it is also some older version... |
| 20:26.10 | gnutoo | hmmm |
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| 20:47.15 | angelox_123 | Sorry,but anybody know any good window manager for a embedded device with 240x320 resolution ? |
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| 21:01.39 | florian | http://pastebin.com/iFi6ZbfF |
| 21:01.49 | florian | Anyone seen this effect before? |
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| 21:04.37 | florian | The bb is r2 and not r18... |
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| 21:20.26 | CIA-2 | 03Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * raf33ab24c9 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/dockstar.conf: dockstar.conf: Make sure we use our known to be good kernel. |
| 21:20.30 | CIA-2 | 03Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r198001c747 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux_2.6.35.bb: linux: 2.6.35 - Insert space at the end of SRC_URI fixes building for machines that do not need additional patches. |
| 21:20.31 | CIA-2 | 03Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r226cbf313a 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (linux-2.6.35/simone/defconfig linux_2.6.35.bb): linux: Sim.One support for 2.6.35 |
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| 21:41.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi |
| 21:41.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've that: |
| 21:41.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | read(3, 0x2cfd4, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 21:41.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | and 3 is: |
| 21:42.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Sep 5 23:34 3 -> socket:[5807] |
| 21:42.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | aka: |
| 21:42.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | tmut 607 root 3u unix 0xc67f89c0 0t0 5807 socket |
| 21:42.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | then what I do next? |
| 21:42.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | I want to know the exact socket |
| 21:43.39 | khem | GNUtoo|laptop: netstat ? |
| 21:43.46 | Jay7 | -pn |
| 21:43.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah good idea |
| 21:43.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | thanks a lot |
| 21:44.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | I usually use antp |
| 21:44.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah ok pn is better for sockets |
| 21:44.25 | Jay7 | -t is tcp? |
| 21:44.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | indeed |
| 21:44.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | so not a good idea |
| 21:44.35 | Jay7 | :) |
| 21:45.15 | Jay7 | -anp then :) |
| 21:45.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | thanks a lot!!! |
| 21:46.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | unix 3 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 5807 607/tmut |
| 21:46.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | not very verbose |
| 21:48.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically in tmut I've that: read(3, 0x2cfd4, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 21:48.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | now I'm here: |
| 21:48.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | unix 3 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 5807 607/tmut |
| 21:48.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 21:49.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | should I look at all the sockets? |
| 21:49.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically tmut seem a very basic prorgam with not a lot of checks |
| 21:49.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | for instance: |
| 21:49.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | the mail account(tmut is a mail client) must be created with gconftool-2 |
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| 23:56.32 | ampm | can anyone answer a question about a bitbake error for the an gumstix overo recipe? |
| 23:57.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | ampm, depend on the question |
| 23:57.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | s/depend/it depends |
| 23:58.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | aka ask directly the question |
| 23:58.20 | ampm | i am trying to bitbake a pixhawk image that conatin xdctools recipe |
| 23:58.53 | ampm | this is the error:| cp: cannot stat `oe/tmp/work/overo-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ti-xdctools-3_16_01_27-r2/xdctools_3_16_01_27/*': No such file or directory |
| 23:59.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 23:59.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | do you have a multicore machine? |
| 23:59.48 | ampm | the direcory exists when i browse |
| 23:59.49 | ampm | yes |
| 23:59.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | or use multpple bb threads |
| 23:59.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 23:59.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | then clean and retry |
| 23:59.58 | ampm | in the conf file |